How Do Deaf People Think?

[@TodayIFoundOut]

Now that you know how deaf people think check out this video and find out How the Blind Dream: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXfFhYyapZd_asU

[@thejoshmes258]

We think like you we have a voice in our heads I don't need to express it if it's in my head because I am not I'm not another person and my reading age is excellent I'm 12 yet my reading age is 16

[@HyperionaSilverleaf]

Most of mine are visual, but since I do hear some I do narrate and monologue.

[@technowey]

Today I Found Out - Thank you for your great videos.

[@preshisify]

finally! thank you 🤗☕

[@preshisify]

now... I've heard and read that animals think in a series of photographs? 🤔 maybe another video? 🤗☕

[@DenisRyan]

Bonus Fact: It is now recommended to use basic sign language with infants, as it had been shown that it helps them communicate earlier. They can sign simple words, like milk, food, more, up, all done or help before they can speak them. This gives the Infant a means to express their basic needs at a very early age, resulting in much less frustration for all. Bonus Fact 2: Babies born to deaf parents have been shown to babble in sign language! They move their hands in ways not typical of babies of speaking parents, mimicking in a general sense their parents hand motions, even if the babies themselves are not deaf!

[@DankoleClouds]

Denis Ryan Thanks for this. My girlfriend is having a little baby girl in the next few weeks and I'm wanting to teach her sign language. I don't know much sign language yet, though. I'm hoping to learn online or take some classes.

[@alienmechanic8696]

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[@msjkramey]

Denis Ryan I didn't know about the babbling! That is so, so sweet

[@christopherscottb]

Wow. Both extremely interesting. Thanks for those.

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

One of my sons is Autistic and was non-verbal the first few years of his life, he did not even say "mama." He would get frustrated not being able to express himself. So I started teaching him signs, since I learned ASL as a teenager, and it completely changed everything for him, he could tell us what was wrong, what he wanted or needed, and so forth. Imagine not being able to express these things even if your mind is fully functional, and it is not hard to understand why kids like that can have such violent meltdowns, it would drive anyone to the brink.

[@DarkAurora2002]

Thank you! My best friend is deaf and I have severe tinnitus and it's nice to see ACCURATE information about deaf people

[@noahsdeafeyes]

Hi. I'm Deaf. I have an answer. I think in either ASL (American Sign Language) or images.

[@Nadia-rq9em]

iNoahASL so if you are like in an ice cream shop ad you’re debating which flavor to get so you see the words (or signs) in your head or is there some other way?

[@marccolten9801]

Makes me think. I can hear so I hear words in my head. So what are the signs for "Kill them. Kill them all"?

[@julrofe]

How fast do the signs / images flash in your mind? Do you find you're quicker or slower at thinking than others who can hear?

[@martinszmidt6121]

so if you're deaf how did you hear what he said? checkmate t. atheist

[@valerune192]

Ive heard theres people that cant see pictures in their head. I wonder if deaf ppl that has this condition as well. How they think o-o

[@Voxann]

I am profoundly deaf and think in visual words and sometimes visual imagery. I use ASL (American Sign Language) and I can write/read English. I rarely use my voice to speak because I dislike speaking. It doesn't feel very natural to try to talk and I am comfortable using sign language because it's visual. I can't hear so it's natural to depend on my eyes for information I need to acquire through sign language, facial expressions, behaviors. When I am around hearing people, I use paper/pen to communicate or if available, chat programs or email like at work.

[@JessicaO490Z]

Gw2 ftw. I also think in concept, vissually, and ad sensation with it being processed into English more like a second language. (I can hear though.) I always found sign language to be easier to grasp than spoken words.

[@ikki-gaming8933]

Thinking in visual words is a very clever thing.

[@whiskylaplic7172]

Hello there! I have some questions that i would like to ask you because i never met a deaf. 1. How can you exactly Know how to pronounce words? 2. Is it harder to learn grammar? (I saw a comment of a deaf and he couldn't speak properly and his name was English) 3.If you think with visual words or images, do you think kinda slower??? 4. Have you tried thinking with voices (like forcing your brain to create a voice of ur mind)??? If you respond to this comment i will be very thankful!

[@barbarahouk1983]

Voxann, I do not have two requirements to read sign language. This is bc sadly as an infant mother lost her breast milk and it was replaced with formula that he’d no iron in it. This was an error of ignorance in 1955. #1 requirement is speed of eye scanning/compression. Essentially I see much slower than the average person. #2 requirement is a retention buffer before going into long term memory. This is not the conscious working buffer that is 7+\- 2 spaces. First a typist reads a section of text and it is held in the working buffer. This secondary buffer is what a typist loads from the working buffer, then while the typist begins to type that section, s/he is reading the next section. I do not have the secondary buffer. This prevents me from typing any better than letters and spaces (exactly what is in working buffer and it cannot be rearranged). It prevents me from adding any shading to music. I did learn to write although it took forever and actual physical manipulation of my hand. Yes it is slow and I still have to monitor every letter. This did not keep me from becoming a physician with the speciality psychiatrist. Reading sign language requires more than just the hands. I have difficulty in facial reading (I am an undiagnosed Asperger’s Syndrome individual too). I love languages and have studied several. I am bilingual, German being my successful 2nd language. I dream in German. My spouse states in my sleep I can be talking in German, French or my native language English. For my deaf patients I insisted on a translator bc I needed to know what the individual thought. I knew my patients were far more comfortable speaking in a language they knew, just like any other of my patients that had a language I did not speak. Psychiatry uses psychotherapy and dangerous medicine. Communication is essential I think.

[@hankbridges5055]

So, why are you commenting on this video if you're deaf? Are you reading the comments only?

[@ZenekandSashasHearing]

I'm the father of two deaf children. I was partly expecting to hear some inaccurate information in this video, because that's the internet, but I didn't. Everything you said about the benefits of sign language is spot on. We're going through this right now. Our two kids have cochlear implants, and we had been going about the oralist method. But now that our son has started school, we've realized that it's failed us. He is 4 and a half, and we can't even ask him his favourite colour. He just doesn't comprehend the question. We always dabbled with sign language, but now we're making a concerted effort to learn and teach them. In just the few months we've been doing this, we've been astonished by how fast they pick it up, and more so by how signs turn into speech! It's incredible. This summer, we're moving closer to a school for the deaf so our son can go there.

[@jendjoyce]

I'm slightly hard of hearing and been in the Deaf community for awhile. Yep, I agree. I was ready to be pissed, but gave him a shot. This was fair.

[@pinkyslink84]

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[@aetherseraph]

please add CC. I very much want to share this with my wife who is profoundly deaf. but I cannot rely on the auto generated captioning to properly convey the information.

[@oliveartistic4708]

Its working fine to me

[@normalguycraig]

They added them now! Enjoy sharing this with your wife

[@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828]

aetherseraph Just in case, they added them

[@ham1847]

LETS GOOOOOOOO

[@JordanPeterson.]

The added them my nega

[@davidschartung6389]

Omg I thought this was a joke... I had my Bluetooth speaker hooked up in the living room so no sounds were coming out of my phone. I thought it was a silent video to show how deaf people think

[@josh88113]

David Schartung I’m so glad you shared that lol.

[@jamescarter3196]

Lmao, I love moments like that!

[@factsandstuff2832]

Lol

[@SapeTuna8]

lmao

[@icecoldchilipreppers]

Lololol

[@lorenzwinterhoff8049]

As a deaf person in a hearing family, along with other factors, I retreated to literature. For many years my inner voice was closer to an inner literary monologue where the words appeared physically in my dreams. Not in thought or speech bubbles, but as actual objects that also reflected their emotional meaning to me, IE bullies words would form and often 'felt' painful as much as the words had in reality.

[@sam808tt2]

Man i love this channel so much! Just the facts and no messing. Doesn't treat everyone like idiots but explains everything in the greatest possible detail, while remaining interesting and engaging and not rambling on to make the video longer. maybe even my favourite channel right now!

[@TodayIFoundOut]

Thanks!

[@beepthemeep12]

This vsauce/dong and curious droid are my 3 fave channels

[@justinkendall9559]

My father in law has been deaf from birth. He can talk mostly normal besides the "deaf accent". He is now a manager of a walmart store and a very intelligent individual. The amazing thing is he dreams in sign, where everyone signs everything they say.

[@jjramos46]

Simon, could you do a video about the etymology of when people started calling lovers "baby" and why?

[@lovelove-jx9qt]

yeeeesssss

[@MacCoalieCoalson]

jjramos46 pedophiles, simply.

[@RickyVWorld]

Maybe because babies are cute, so is your spouse (but in different ways) but you still refer to them as cute or a baby because it's cute, like babies (not that I think babies are cute, they look like frogs)

[@KOTEBANAROT]

frogs ARE cute tho... babies look like pink potatoes

[@carolynmmitchell2240]

it me what about black babies?

[@MasterigPokemon101]

Now I want to know how blind people dream

[@SmokesOnMe]

Zachary Warnock probably hear things in their sleep if they were born blind. I'd guess that people who go blind would still be able to visualize things, but I wonder if your brain would phase that out over time.

[@chillermiller3565]

As far as I know, If you go blind later in your life the amount of visual information in your dreams is based upon how much you think about visual stimuli, how much visual memories you had before you went blind and for how long you have been blind.

[@longforgotten4823]

chiller miller well, I am blind. I will attest to the fact that those who are born blind do not have a concept of what light or colors are. However, my blindness got worse over the years and I can say that I have vivid dreams that can sometimes be more clear than my site is.

[@njdotson]

then how did you even read that comment?

[@SmokesOnMe]

Long Forgotten Checkmate "blind" guy. Lol jk

[@lestranged]

I have read that deaf babies who are signed to from an early age are able to sign back appropriate answers earlier than hearing children learn to talk. Signing is apparently easier to learn at a very young age than speaking coherently. So it's like they learn their language younger than average or 'normal' babies. A hearing child may not be able to answer when you ask them why they are crying or what do they need, but a deaf child can answer it in sign. Some people even teach hearing children how to sign so that they can communicate their needs sooner than they could by speaking. this reduces their frustration. Like you have probably seen babies making babbling in the cadence of speech but it sounds like gibberish, and they get frustrated when you can't understand them- in their brain they know what they want to say , they understand the language, but just can't make the words yet. But their hands can make the signs before their voice can make the words.

[@marirose4123]

I've typed as a medical transcriptionist for over 30 years. I find myself typing conversations in my mind while listening, really odd

[@shaun_rambaran]

That's _really_ interesting!

[@DasAntiNaziBroetchen]

Are you the typewriter guy from the anime "Monster"?

[@AckSnus]

@@DasAntiNaziBroetchen I wish she would look it up and answer back, that reference is novel.

[@xxTheCatsMeow]

I knew a woman who was born deaf and also had schizophrenia. When she would self talk, she would use sign language with her hands to her sides.

[@madlucian4623]

do animals have different languages like dogs from France can't understand dogs from Spain

[@pluransart1795]

orio jules is that a fact?

[@MadameRaven1]

Vacso Kagazzle Laloobay Hoophorn Wacago Seiliu I think it was a question.

[@rebeccamorgan4011]

orio jules I don't know about that but I've heard that cows have regional accents.

[@thoughtyness]

orio jules I've never heard of that. I've only heard of dogs not being able to take commands from a person in a different language.

[@AlexsAmazingIpad]

Animals don't tend to have any kind of intelligent language whatsoever, they just pick up on signals from others based on body language or simple noises e.g. growling being an 'aggressive' sound, accompanying aggressive body language. Therefore dogs and other animals from all over the world should be able to 'understand' each other because their 'languages' are more behavioural (which is unlikely to differ massively region to region) than speech related. It's possible more intelligent animals like chimps could have primitive forms of language but nothing on the scale of human language where specific sounds correspond to specific 'words'.

[@LydiaTereK]

Deaf person: (getting angry about something) (mental sign laNgUAGE INTENSIFIES)

[@JessicaO490Z]

Increased intensity comes with body language and facial expressions so yeah, not hard to picture. :P

[@ceez4reez735]

@@JessicaO490Z But like when you are cursing off someone (offensive mental sign laNgUAGE INTENSIFIES)

[@AckSnus]

@@ceez4reez735 I wonder if the scene from Spiderman 2002 is perticulary funny for deaf people… The scene on the roof when he tries to figure out what hand sign triggers the webb to cum out ”flyyy” (squeezes it just right) ”AAAAAAAH”

[@georgeelsham]

Audible should have sponsored this

[@crystallyen582]

Soo true..

[@beepthemeep12]

LMAO

[@mariaelmorsy4280]

That would’ve been ironic..

[@pradyunnaik2748]

🤣🤣🤣 lol

[@richard-gn3es]

Audible with subtitles... a book

[@lukamic1776]

Ive asked myself this question for years! Finally an answer!

[@KristianWontroba]

As a speech-language pathologist and a hearing impaired person who works with children with hearing impairments, I enjoyed this video very much! Of course, largely due to the success of universal newborn hearing screening programmes in much of the industrialized world and the subsequent cochlear implantation of nearly all of those infants identified as being deaf, fewer and fewer persons develop language absent of speech and sound. Depending on the degree of hearing loss and/or the age of implantation, an individualized blend of sign language, cued speech, and/or oral language therapy/training, with the degree of emphasis on one method or another being driven by the given patient's skills and the like, is now the standard best practice. Would love you guys to do a follow up video on the development of cochlear implant. Thanks! : D

[@PongoXBongo]

You're the same person in the same culture, regardless of what your body can or cannot do. If you woke up tomorrow being/not being able to hear, would you suddenly become a different person? Your strengths and limitations do not define you, rather it's how you choose to deal with them that does.

[@KristianWontroba]

I was born with typical hearing and lost some of my hearing due to an infection as an adult. I'm not completely deaf by any means. Thus, the term "hearing impaired", which is what I choose to call myself (would you deny me that right?) makes the most sense for me. The children that I work with all have access to hearing via amplification/cochlear implants since a very young age and were born to hearing parents. For their families, the term "hearing impaired" is more accurate and comforting. Naturally, whenever I work with a family or a person who prefers the term Deaf, i.e. where there is a severe/profound hearing loss unaided and/or without implantation, and one/both parents of the child are also Deaf as such and wish to preserve their connection to the Deaf culture, then I use the term Deaf in such a context.

[@TheRahsoft]

hearing impaired is a term used by society and sometimes refers to those who are deaf after language acquirement( either by accident or natural causes) Deaf was a derogatory term used to exclude and persecute people. look up hadamar which was a T1 euthanasia program by the nazis en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadamar_Euthanasia_Centre I was as a child labeled both deaf and hearing impaired because society( or people) were incredibly ignorant and stupid about deafness, so you had to adapt to perceptions. Its up to each person what label they choose for society.

[@TheRahsoft]

"Oh god, being deaf is a cultural thing now? " seriously , you need to do some research cultural deaf is a group that the deaf have built up for themselves as many groups have in society based on a shared situation ( religion, race, place or origin etc). Its allows them to give support to each other and a stronger voice in society. this is how they choose to deal with their strengths and limitations and they are better for it.

[@dustinsandage9387]

Pongo: language and communication style is inherently an aspect of culture. People with certain sensory impairments will naturally develop an independent culture or subculture based on their means and methods of communication. Similarly a person who simply chooses to learn Sign and become active in that community will also find that they also will be influenced by the unique culture. As to the rest of the comment; in some ways yes... a person with that drastic of a shift in their sensory capacity would very likely find themselves developing in a noticeably different way than they had been previously. Also, your bit of "advice" at the end was simply patronizing. Nobody had asked for nor expressed a need for your advice, least of all someone far more educated and familiar with the topic at hand than you are. Why would you think you understood the situation well enough to "explain" to an expert something about a world he knows intimately?

[@MrStoneIV_]

Thinking about this question before watching the video blew my mind... I couldn't think without thinking with words!

[@zero1188]

next question. do blind people dream and how do they think or imagine things

[@pluransart1795]

they don't see the shapes of things like we do, but rather feel the shapes

[@longforgotten4823]

Vacso Kagazzle Laloobay Hoophorn Wacago Seiliu I am blind. I sometimes have more vivid dreams than what little bit I can see.

[@eruyommo]

+Long Forgotten. I suppose you're using a special devise to write here.

[@TodayIFoundOut]

Here you go kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXfFhYyapZd_asU

[@PongoXBongo]

A "special device"...like a dictation app perhaps? And I would think that blind people could construct mental images of things, based on size, texture, etc. Their brains would render images much like a computer, based on geometric data, rather than displaying photos or playing back a film.

[@memesredacted]

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[@DavidBrent2003]

Bro they can still think in images 😂. A blind person's dream would be fascinating, however.

[@pcdsgh]

This was more informative than I expected. Well done.

[@dantheman3850]

I'm deaf and I think in the written language. (3 year update: I completely forgot about this comment and lied lol. I'm not deaf.)

[@carolynmmitchell2240]

Morty look into the neurophone you can hear with it

[@ashelpeabody7800]

Morty I wish I could write Mandarin or Cantonese! 😀 I bet you've noticed the runic roots in English; imagine using Chinese glyphs in thought? (I actually wish I knew enough mumbo jumbo to shape my OWN rabblebabble lol)

[@silverandexact]

Morty well not all Deaf people learn to read and write fluently at an early age. How old were you when you learned how to read in English?

[@afreshloafofgarlicbread6307]

Morty Same. I’ve always thought in written text.

[@giin97]

Wow... That's trippy, lol.

[@rasverixxyleighraq1509]

i am legally deafblind with total deafness and only partial sight. I received a Cochlear Implant at 19 months and think entirely in speech even though I have some knowledge of signing but did not learn those until after i learned oral speech

[@johncoleman1930]

I lost my hearing at 3 and I had a similar situation as well!

[@PatrickPoet]

I am a hearing person and grew up normally, but now I've had a 46 year meditation practice and over the last ten or twelve years it became normal not to think in language first in meditation, and then later just walking around. When not thinking I still understand language, I just don't have an internal monologue going. I also develop memories just fine. I comprehend, I draw conclusions, I make decisions, all without a thought stream. I have a stronger focus on what people are saying because I'm not distracted by my own thoughts. I perceive more accurately because my thinking brain is always going to come up with some conclusion even if it doesn't know what it is talking about! lol. It would be cool if you did a Today I Found Out about the differences in how brains like mine work.

[@rabtstudio]

I am an educator and few students ( deaf) have approached me for education. I don't know sign language and i am for the first time in my life thinking about how deaf people learn things. Wow 👌 While I was reading your story, I was smiling with tears in my eyes. Thank you for writing about it and adding up a new dimension for my understanding.

[@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z]

Very interesting, I also have no inner monologue, but I have never had one, just a very strong imagination since childhood. I have become interested in the topic as it seems 10% of population has no inner monologue but I wasn't aware of the ability of people to "transition". The fact that you made the inner voice quiet through meditation is incredible and could be the key to understanding the phenomenon of varied modes of cognition. Interestingly I am well spoken and articulate, but socially awkward I am slow at verbal comprehension but read exceptionally fast There is much speculation out there of "NPC" theory - that people think those with no inner monologue have "no soul" or are unthinking automatons or sociopaths. Funnily enough to my mind only being able to think in language is very narrow.. linear... and *loud*

[@timberwolf5211]

I don't know if you have heard of this, but I caught the end of a news article the other week, where I think, I heard that the UK government is seriously thinking about or making sign language taught compulsory in schools. I've been saying they should for years.

[@TheProfessordank]

this is so crazy, I've often pondered what blind people dream but never asked myself how deaf people think or go over things in their heads. wow. great shit.

[@ManuelRuthLopez]

I work with deaf people in Mexico, and fully agree with everything you explain here. Thank you for expressing everything so clearly!

[@creinicke1000]

you should have put subtitles and an interpreter doing sign with this clip. I'd like to know deaf opinions on this clip, but they can't view it without the translation.

[@dingdong475]

KZbin captions settings auto generate english when no subtitles have been uplosded. Also this guy flaps his hands way too much. Super annoying.

[@DarkAurora2002]

The video has proper subtitles now

[@dingdong475]

@@DarkAurora2002 yes but what about his hands?

[@westsenkovec]

0:13 - Hold this L bitch

[@fantasyconnect]

West Senkovec lol.

[@sejason56]

savage

[@bobbobbybobberson3829]

She was looking kind of dumb with her finger and her thumb in the shape of in L on her forehead(Shhh).

[@tangy1148]

Get your game on go play....

[@asgerk4837]

Tangy hey now you're a rockstar

[@Germatti13489]

I have a couple of deaf friends one that was one of the first deaf students to integrate with us in 1972 into junior high school.

[@jacobdawson2109]

This sheds some interesting light on the connections between language, thought and consciousness.

[@bobsaggat]

...let's...let's.... raise a child to think in a computer programming language

[@rationalapeman]

Jon Deal print("Hello")

[@paytonl3485]

Jon Deal that's actually a pretty good idea lol

[@curtisbrown547]

that's a VERY interesting experiment.. I don't know what to think about it ethically... but scientifically it's very very interesting.

[@zayanwatchel8780]

Import os Import sys while(True): os.system('start notepad') Fix the caps and run on windows. It's python

[@nako-chen]

Woah

[@samuelcolton4173]

My mind was blown before the video even started

[@Lordsun122]

This video made me think if I ever had a kid that was deaf, I would want to fully commit to learning sign language just for him/her. What made me think that I don't know.

[@missamyw3806]

Thank you for starting a dialogue about the differences of language verses understanding.

[@kickinbackinOC]

I generally agree with the principles espoused here, with one notable exception that I have noticed in my personal experience. (First off, I am a person who can hear, especially when called to dinner) In my line of work, I frequently need to design complex electrical circuits to perform a certain task. There are no generic circuits to copy from, as my circuit designs are bespoke for the challenge that faces me. To begin with the solution finding process, I will write a short "story", if you will, where the challenge is described in full English sentences. This helps direct my thoughts to the eventual answer. Then I will list the extant technical elements that are known, such as the specific voltage available, the status and timing of various signals that can be used as inputs, and the desired output(s), etc. Then a funny thing happens, as I begin to concentrate on the answer to the new puzzle- My inner voice grows quieter! And if it's a really hard problem, my inner voice nearly shuts off entirely, (in fact, it's better during this process if I can cease to think using language) as the creative part of my brain takes over. The intuitive side of my mind "takes the reigns", so to speak, and while occupying center stage in the theater of my mind, my intuitive mind can work much, much faster, and think much more deeply, and grasp much broader simultaneous truths when it is unfettered by awkward, clumsy words, that are not flexible enough, nor descriptive enough, nor meaningful enough to be used as placeholders for broader concepts, and for codifying "revolutionary" ideas. It is during this time that my mind is "wearing 7 league boots", and is truly free to create the solutions to the most difficult design issues that I deal with. My intuitive mind can go beyond the mere pedestrian musings of a mind fettered by the heavy baggage of words. Words at this time are as ineffectual as blunt logs, when the precision of scapels and razors is required. After my intuitive mind has found the solution, a reverse process occurs, where I once again join my heretofore extremely abstract thoughts that transcend words, back into the format of spoken language, (however clumsy and inept language may be) I quickly write down the essence of the answer before the muse is lost, then fill in the more mundane details to make the whole solution something that can be understood by others, and more easily recalled by myself when it's time to actually build my circuit. I often wonder if composers go through a similar process, first creating their auditory inspirations in their mind, and then putting them down to sheet music. Shear ceativity comes from the deep recess of the consciousness, that transcends mere balky language!

[@Yvon-]

You should add English subtitles so I can share this video with my deaf friends :)

[@suzanneguernier5352]

There is closed caption(cc) it is a function that you can turn on your machine.

[@sidraket]

"driver for the brains hardware" This reinforces my idea that the language(s) you learn early on influences the way you see the world.

[@UpcycleElectronics]

This was the most interesting thing I've seen on this channel to date. Thanks. This concept begs the question, what role if any does the simplicity/complexity and structure of a language play on human intellectual potential?

[@sailorbychoice1]

I worked for a year in a mental health facility for deaf kids. Nearly all of the problems deaf kids have can be traced back to lack of language. Often, until recently, children were not diagnosed as deaf until 3-4 years old, seemingly "slow" or perhaps if there is partial hearing; enough to hear noises but not enough to follow speech, “autistic”. Most "inherent" problems deaf children have are not present with deaf children of deaf parents because they are raised with a language- American Sign Language (ASL) in the USA. A thing I found amazing working with those kids was there were several who were schizophrenic with audible hallucinations, they could hear the voices talking to them, but no one else.

[@163reasonswhyrealestateage4]

The thing I like most about your channel is that you cover such a wide variety of subjects.

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

Imagine if a deaf person has schizophrenia...all of a sudden they think they heard something and then they realize "oh yeah that's right I can't actually hear"

[@Bug_H]

Jason Armstrong I'm guessing they would have more visual hallucinations

[@fantasyconnect]

juicy0whoot Nah, it'd be kinaesthesia based hallucination

[@man4437]

juicy0whoot They'd see speaking. There would just be someone signing at them.

[@quidnick]

What about a deaf and blind schizophrenic.

[@1001011011010]

Jason Armstrong I wonder if deaf people get intrusive thoughts.

[@aliciascat9433]

What about people who are blind and deaf? How do they think?

[@Bananer]

Lol that's true. Do they even know what they are?

[@daemonCaptrix]

Why don't you ask them?

[@Petra44YT]

Helen Keller wrote that she felt she was "slipping away" - until "Teacher" managed to make her understand the concept of language. Then, she did well and even graduated from college.

[@somemusician3832]

Tactile sign language

[@carlhartwell7978]

I'd imagine they think in braile, providing they had learned it.

[@DerMikeDee]

I think mostly in pictures, so this question is very weird to me.

[@funguseater3602]

Mike Dee that’s weird af

[@RobWright1981]

Yeah, me too. I never say words in my head.

[@DinosaurNick]

i hear my own voice in my head when thinking, or if i'm thinking of something someone else said or might say i hear it in their voice

[@tiphlizsvp6901]

Very true!! I grew up in the 80s and went to a school that did not believe in Sign language.. I was very lucky because I am hard of hearing. I wasnt left completely in the dark.. But seeing some of my friends who are completely deaf fate was not as lucky... I see them struggle even until this day... That's a price that many of us paid for being deaf and dealing ignorant people. Now its our job to educate the world about that.. Thanks for the video!! Its was very good!!

[@melbo6735]

I love this channel. You cover so many interesting topics

[@kaiceecrane3884]

Being autistic I don't think in words most of the time. When engaged in verbal language (such as reading, writing, and speaking ehen I am able to) thinking in words does happen but otherwise I think more visually and by feeling. This is not unlike learning a second language, when engaging with someone in your second language you think in that language but otherwise most people think in their first most of the time. English in this case is my second language, really verbal language has always been incredibly difficult to process or understand. An important distinction to made is that between language and communication. All things communicate uses their senses, it what senses they use to communicate that can differ. When it comes to mammals the majority communicate using primarily visually and secondarily verbally. It is not to say thet don't use their other senses to gather information, just they don't use those sense to express information. Perhaps you are thinking you have seen your dog sniff to gather information before. What they are doing if sniffing for pheromones, which humans do the same thing after shaking hands bit this isn't the same thing as expressing information. It is not common to see a communication model not like the one mentioned previously in mammals but some mammals do, such as humans. Humans flip what most mammals do and communicate primarily verbally and secondarily visually. Your commication model is something are born with and language is something you learn. Language is based on communication models, so all human languages you learn with primarily involve verbal components. Usually we don't involve visual communication in our language but rather use the same visual communication across our species and call this body language (which is a poor term as it isn't a language). There are some visual languages (such a sign language) but all of those languages are based upon the use of verbal language and directly translating that into hand singles or otherwise to express thought in the same way you do verbal language. Becuase some visual languages exist, we can and have taught other animals how to "speak" our visual languages, such as Koko the gorilla. We have a hard time learning other species visual languages because unlike ours they don't base their visual languages in a verbal like way. Can other species that share the same communication models communicate with one another. Yes, but not completely. While latin isn't a commication model but rather a language we can latin demonstrate a point. There are languages called romance languages with are based upon latin: spanish, french, portuguese, italian, romanian, etc. While all of the romance languages are different languages, because they are based on the same language they can use those different languages to express thought amongst themselves without having to know the other language but have difficulty expressing increasing complex ideas. Different species that share the same communication model have developed their own languages based on the same model and can express ideas amongst each other but the more complex the idea the harder it is to express it. Just like we can express ideas in english to someone who only understands japanese by using on simple level, but when we share the same language we express even more complex ideas. Why this is important when it come to autistic people is understanding our communication differences. Through my own understanding and experiences with communication as well as speaking to other autistic people it is my understanding that perhaps our communication model is much like other mammals being primarily visual and secondary verbal. Having a different communication model could explain our communication differences and sharing the same communication model as most mammals could explain we understand other mammals alot more easily. When thinking about how I express emotions, my emotes are not naturally my face (a demonstration of primarily using verbal communication up close as having facial emotes aids in verbal communication in a close range to demonstrate subtlety of language) but rather my stims using the rest body. Emoting with your body is something allistic people do to a degree but not much as their face, much like my primary emotes being with my body but there a few natural emotes with my face such as smiling when in uncomfortable situations (which other primates also use to demonstrate aggression and ward off others) but there a few stims I also do using my face but not as many.

[@barrytheiguana675]

Okay but you’re still scared of lightning

[@SkipTerrio]

My inner voice sounds like Simon Whistler.

[@aliciascat9433]

Do dogs think in barks?

[@JayTemple]

I once posed the question and partial answer, "Does (my dog) think? It depends on what level you mean. It's safe to say she'll never ponder a differential equation. Then again, neither will my mother."

[@danardalin]

JayTemple This begs for a "Yo mama" joke...

[@daemonCaptrix]

Dogs think in "Food? food food food foodfoodfoodfoodfood FOOOOOOD! naptime"

[@gracegiven8875]

If dogs could talk in a language they’d be more intelligent than us!! LOL

[@MelB868]

Animals think in pictures

[@LehiJenks]

I am not deaf but most likely have dyslexia (I was never diagnosed). When as a teenager I found out that most people think in words, it blew my mind, I could not comprehend how that could be possible. I had always thought in objects and actions in multiple dimensions, and the closest I could come was to play through of the act of having a conversation. After years of practice, I have developed more of an inner voice, but still have little association with written words.

[@EmilyTienne]

Fascinating topic. Have always heard deafness impacts individual’s quality of life more than blindness, but until this video never understood why. Thank you for this!

[@Melissa0774]

I wonder if it's easier for deaf people to learn to read languages like Chinese or Japanese, because the characters are more visual?

[@JayTemple]

THAT'S an interesting question!

[@FortisConscius]

No. A written word, however it is composed, is a visual piece.

[@Vitorruy1]

Melissa0774 chinese characters are words we dont see/read them as pictures.

[@silverandexact]

Languages like Chinese, where characters represent words/ideas and not sounds, and some characters can be "built upon" to make a new but related word/idea, are more similar to American sign language than English is to it. I don't know how Chinese grammar is compared to ASL/other sign language grammar, though (ASL grammar is not the same as English), other than that verbs are not conjugated in either language.

[@JK-ROSE05]

No, not really.

[@BadassAlen]

2:52 Deaf people should not use sign language and be forced to only use spoken word. The problem was, *_they're bloody deaf_*

[@lizzy4827]

BadassAlen it was basically reading lips and learning how make the correct mouth shapes for each sound...not saying it's good though...it must be torture to be forced to read people's mouth when many don't even articulate well

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

We have up our memory for language. --Vsauce

[@RosheenQuynh]

It's times like these I am thankful I can hear. I do not like taking my senses for granted.

[@jessesanders922]

excellent and spot on. My daughter has a hearing loss and I am so glad she learned sign as well as spoken language.

[@BelindaCowell]

I was just thinking about the fact that people find the way that some people talk more attractive to others.For example, accents, tone and pitch of voice...what about people who are deaf? Is there a comparison?

[@michaeldougfir9807]

Belinda Cowell: As an observer, I would say there is the difference due to personality. My own signing is rough, halting due to lack of experience. Some people are more intense and know their companion well, so their signing is very fast, slangy and I have a hard time following it. I like signers that have a fluid motion, with consideration for others. Some seem almost to be singing, in a manner of speaking.

[@cantbeleveitsnotnaru]

Belinda Cowell totally!!! There's a deaf woman in my class and we have several interpreters. Every one of them sign differently. The way their hands move, the shape of their hands, how they use the signs. Definitely a difference from an outsiders perspective. I have a huge crush on the deaf woman in my class, so I really enjoy watching her sign.

[@SapphiraMJ]

I attended classes about the different usage of words across the country (USA) and how different communities and generations used different signs to mean the same word. Sometimes there can be mistranslations where a word that means a slur or insult in one location meant something positive and affirming in another. My ASL speaker of the workshop related an amusing account of where she nearly came to blows with someone because she thought they were insulting her in a horrible insult when the startled and taken aback person had just been using their dialect of a positive meaning for a different word entirely. They were able to laugh it off later but she shared it with us as an example of how dialects can evolve in language. Not to mention how different signed languages are across the world depending on the local spoken language differences. For example, French sign language is far more similar to American sign language (since that's what was originally taught to deaf people here), than American sign language ever is with British sign language. I think they even do some of the alphabet differently LOL! So yes indeed there are vast differences and even within the same community you still see people having a very distinct "voice" or style of signing that almost may be unique to themselves alone. Like a personal accent. I love the variations found here very much.

[@heyyyitskat]

Everyone has a different style of signing. I have a more flowy and feminine type of signing. And you can also start to tell people's emotions based upon how they're signing. I was signing a story to a friend today about an experience I had at work. As the story progressed and I was more agitated, my signing got "angrier" and more choppy looking. You could tell that I was extremely emotional about what I was talking about.

[@carolynmmitchell2240]

Katherine Q look into the neurophone by Patrick Flanagan, it will make you able to hear without using ear drums.. it's like 4 to 800 dollars but it's worth it to experience hearing

[@davidbuschhorn6539]

Recently, my voice has changed dramatically as a result of a neurological problem. I still think in my old voice. That's part of what causes my frustration at the change. It's as though I'm not the same person my brain is telling me I am because I *_sound_* different.

[@_Piers_]

David Buschhorn Ooh that must be very odd, it's bad enough hearing a recording of your voice and realising that no one else hears your voice the way you do.

[@davidbuschhorn6539]

It's so weird. I think in my old voice. The Steve Gleason Foundation gave me a nice Tobii Dynavox so when my voice finally goes completely, I won't be so isolated. I'm a writer so losing my voice isn't the worst thing that could happen, but losing the ability to walk and take care of myself while I'm also mute might not be so great. The Dynavox will let me talk even if I'm completely paralyzed and mute. As long as I can move my eyes, it'll let me communicate :-) It's pretty badass.

[@mirmo96]

Am I the only one that thinks Simon used to smile more and be more enthusiastic (than he currently is)...?

[@_Piers_]

Mrinmoy Dalal Brexit!

[@JG-fg1ye]

everyone has an off day, sure he'll bounce back next vid

[@carolynmmitchell2240]

he's on heroin, look in his how it's made video he has a bandaid covering his track marks.. why you think he always wear long sleeves normally?

[@jbwilk511]

My 30 year old younger brother was born deaf and this fact still facisnates me. Visualizing language is really cool

[@Niko_demus]

The most complete presentation on this topic I've seen so far. Thank you for clearing up a lot of myths and fallacies in this topic.

[@acesofthesky]

If a deaf person seeing this video with captions, they'd be pretty confused of why do people teach the death person sign language

[@sambednar3351]

acesofthesky KZbin captions are awful

[@acesofthesky]

They fixed it by putting their transcript down!

[@NyuuMikuru1]

samantha bednar But comedic.

[@gyldenhunig5591]

acesofthesky smell lol

[@houselightkell]

acesofthesky so true.

[@covenof2]

Um this completely ignores that not everyone has an "inner voice." All the research you cite is done exclusively on people who do. But there has been documentation of people who think without voice - usually thinking in images, but sometimes by other methods. I have a friend who is not deaf, is not "mentally handicapped" (other than that she, like me, has ADHD), and is in fact multilingual and a very good student. However, she has no inner voice and thinks in images. When I describe to her that yes I do have an inner monolog (and, personally, for me it is multiple layers of monologs and sometimes even a me-me dialog), its unimaginable to her. Since learning of this, I have learned to cross check the often very dated research that presumes inner voice is the only manner of thought, though I admit research that is more open-minded is severely lacking.

[@archer9338]

Thinking in images is common in some people who are dyslexic. Dyslexia is often misdiagnosed as ADHD.

[@angelic8632002]

"language is integral to how our brains work" I beg to differ. I'm autistic and barely use any inner language at all, and do just fine. For me its all abstract associations and visual representations. I just *know* when things fit together. I don't reason it out in my head with an inner voice talking to myself(or however that works for normal people. I wouldn't know).

[@lizzy4827]

Simone for you to be able to write this right know and understand what you just wrote you need inner language

[@angelic8632002]

Elizabeth V I formulate it in language yes. And I think about the words internally with a "voice". But I never said I couldn't. Just that I don't. Its too slow and takes a lot of extra effort.

[@ReddFoxx1562]

Language IS integral to how our brain works. He never said any specific language. Also, I've never read such an attention-grabbing jerkwad comment from someone before; you're literally using language to explain the things you use language for (apparently unknowingly) in order to explain how language isn't that integral to you? Get the FUCK outta here with that.

[@CrowBag]

Simone yes but you’re also not the AVERAGE person.

[@DaniLeia3]

Fascinating, and makes complete sense to me as an early childhood educator. It has been drilled into me that the first five years of life are the most important for acquiring language. The larger the vocabulary a child has, the more successful they will be in school and life. One way to increase vocabulary is to learn another language. This is one reason, among many, that I teach my hearing children ASL.

[@db9002]

I knew language was important but this just filled in the gaps in my knowledge in about 6 minutes. Excellent stuff. Keep up the good work.

[@clarabellen]

My mind is blown. I can't even wrap my brain around thinking in sign language. xD

[@pricklydingus8604]

*WHAT!?*

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

Eric Brown "GOHAN I NEED YOU TO DO THAT THING THAT REALLY ANNOYS ME!"

[@longforgotten4823]

Jason Armstrong what? Oh, whistle

[@fun-gq6zj]

Eric Brown *WHAT!?*

[@TakaComics]

Anyone else notice the chunks of Simon's head being taken out by his glasses reflecting the chromakey'd color? XD I can't unsee it.

[@_Piers_]

Trevor Kent It's always like that. He should probably buy less glossy frames next time he needs a new pair. :)

[@unevenspleener]

Thank you for this incredibly enlightening video. I teach at a school for the deaf in West Africa. Every day I am confronted with the challenge of what to teach in order to equip my students self-sufficiency after their education. It is incredibly more difficult than it might appear on the surface. Add to that the palpable social stigma that the deaf are forced to surmount.

[@Ben-fr8gi]

I can hear, but I don't think in words. I don't think in images either. Best way I can describe it is that I think in feelings, like everything has a feeling. Not an emotional feeling for everyday things like 'lightbulbs' or 'coffee', but that's the closest I can get to it. My head is silent most the time, but I know what I'm thinking about because I feel it. People vary in how they think. More than I used to realise. For a long time I thought the phrase 'I said to myself' was just a metaphor.

[@RealSkyDiver2]

how do people think who where born blind and deaf where the only way of communication they learned is through beatings?

[@nolovenohate]

They learn by feeling; I.E touch.

[@nolovenohate]

Jamie Hood You can feel with more than just your hands.

[@bosede-nage8467]

Not everyone who has working hearing has voices in their head, I only discovered a few years ago that people other than schizophrenics, experience this. I certainly do not ( I am not impaired) and further, I do not believe anyone else does. If you use language internally, I suspect it is more likely you are in the process of formatting a thought into language...the thought has already formed. It is true that this latter process may bring you to reevaluate that thought but then that reevaluation will also happen without the process involving wittering on inside your head.

[@Reddles37]

Many people do have a voice in their head though. Its basically the same thing as mental images, do you ever visualize things in your head? People can imagine things with all of their senses, to varying degrees, and people with strong audio imagination usually use an inner voice to process information.

[@ashelpeabody7800]

Bose de-Nage mmmyeahmkay

[@forestman111]

So because you dont experience it, no one else does?

[@BestAnimeFreak]

The voice in your head is like reading without speaking, except you don't read °L°

[@yourresidentginger1245]

What's it like when you read but don't speak. That's what they mean by voice in your head. It's thoughts. Nothing else. You had to use the voice in your head to write all of this down dude. Or maybe you don't because you clearly didn't think, and I mean really think, before you made this comment.

[@thespook1482]

Who is Jimmy, why does he crack corn, and why don't I care?

[@cosmickitty9533]

My boyfriend is autistic, and although he is not deaf he very rarely speaks. When he does speak, his voice is extremely quiet. He said he rarely has a vocal inner dialogue. He usually thinks in pictures.

[@MaddRamm]

This was awesome! I never thought about the need for an inner voice. It's something I've always taken for granted. I'm glad that educators are heeding the research and not forcing the old method upon those with auditory challenges.

[@freedustin]

Internal dialogue and thinking are completely different things. Your thoughts are fully manifested before you ever put words to them. Thinking in language just slows you down. You are wrong about people needing language to think.

[@kickinbackinOC]

Great thinking there, bro. Please see my post above.

[@4473021]

freedustin Some people still say things before they think about them tho lol. As if saying stuff sometimes acts like a reflex ye know what i mean?

[@fmlAllthetime]

Yah, I've actually read a scientific paper on this and there is certain concepts one needs a language to address while thinking on them. Considering a respectable channel confirms what I've read in a medical journal, seen in a documentary, and is simply logical when one deeply considers the question, I'm going to have to go with "you're most likely wrong."

[@freedustin]

I was really just replying to the beginning of the video where he says "think in terms of their inner voice." That just kinda irks me, because the title doesn't reflect that. Yeah advanced things, like writing, require using your inner voice to go over things. Unless you like spending a lot of time erasing what you wrote. I don't disagree with the video at all, but it should be "Do deaf people have an inner voice?" Not OMG HOW DO THEY EVEN THINK!?!@$?!@$

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

freedustin Holy shit it's G Time Johny Yeah dude, people need language to think Things need to be simplified to labels/words and we need an understanding of how those words interact with eachother in real life

[@pheebsbee1280]

Does this mean that apes who know sign language have an inner monologue therefore consciousness therefore a soul?

[@CryptoidEngine]

Well, they have those things already; we just don't see it since, well... We can't if they can't communicate their thoughts to us in ways we understand. They have souls like we do; them knowing sign languages showcases their consciousness all the further. :)

[@leykimayri]

There is no such thing as soul

[@ambrebadhippie]

Fi Handley of course they do

[@taytertotsasmr9702]

Came here from pewdiepie

[@mihael3541]

Same here

[@randyg22152]

I had long wondered about this. Thanks for the video.

[@dlbstl]

in college I went to a party with some deaf friends. It was very interesting. Half the people there were hearing and half were deaf. I was thrilled to see everyone stand in a circle and sign to each other.

[@CsDanex21]

Imagine if you were deaf, blind, and couldn't speak.

[@Naijiri.]

Almost Helen Keller

[@savannahherrera4591]

Danex21 People whom are deaf/blind use tactile sign lanaguge

[@emperorpalpatine4681]

Pinball wizard

[@JayTemple]

I was going to go with a Metallica reference, but yours is good too.

[@spankablemonkgorillamyname3642]

I'd rather be dead

[@redoffset1609]

Wait, how do deaf people eat?

[@bobbobbybobberson3829]

How do deaf people hear?

[@BungieStudios]

Good question. Scientists are still trying to figure that one out.

[@cameronmyers2154]

with their mouths

[@yvetteayala4378]

Hand puppets that have a tube leading to the stomach

[@allealle8362]

With their asses

[@tigerstyle4505]

I'm constantly hit with info I didn't even know I wanted, but always end up mad happy to have it. That's why I rock with this channel. Sometimes I've caught sketchy info. But it's usually not main points. Regardless, it's always a solid idea to check it out for yourself afterwards anyway! ✌ I actually started learning some ASL from an aunt who's mother or sister was deaf. Never figured it would be all that useful but still was curious. Picked up a little more from a woman I know who teaches "special needs" kids (yep, still called that here) and it's been mad useful on many occasions. I'm by no means fluent but can communicate some pretty basic stuff (if I can't remember or don't know it I can spell it out at least) and been really surprised at how many times I've been in situation where I've used it. A lot of non verbal autistic people use it as well as a number of others that aren't necessarily deaf. And the look of surprise and happiness on the face of a lotta signers I've met (even parents, siblings, significant others, etc) has been priceless. They always seem to appreciate that I know the little I do. Once I was walking in to a political rally a friend was working at and a group of kids in their early teens walked in front of me. I could see them signing as we walked and as one held the door for me I just signed "thank you" And her whole face lit up and before I knew it I had made a grip of new friends lol I sucked and they knew it but we worked it out. Can't recommend it enough. Ya don't realize how many people use it til ya learn it yourself and it's really not difficult. Just takes a little practice and staying up to date.

[@cjld104]

Today I Found Out, I am really grateful for this video! Before, my impression about your channel is that it's just for trivial and fun stuff--which is a good thing. But now, I really appreciate your channel more. I really do. These information can really impact and educate the world. God bless you!

[@amandaegeskovhald8222]

Fascinating how language is so important to us and we just take it for granted.

[@RechtmanDon]

As an Asperger "Aspie," music is my primary language. However, my early grasp of music, by aiding brain development, ultimately led to a powerful grasp of English in adulthood, yet it did not fully manifest until my late 20s or early 30s. Now I have two continuous voices in my head: one is music, the other, English. Like most people, I can speak about experiences and feelings associated with sense perceptions and thoughts. But I can also spontaneously "speak" the feelings I experience musically, at the keyboard. The type of research described in the video also has implications for teaching people on the autism spectrum as well as those who have experienced neural damage from accident, tumor, or stroke.

[@Stormymystic]

As a person with progressive hearing loss, and having attended a deaf school in my teens, I can tell you most deaf people are a lot smarter than many give them credit for. I was never taught sign language, because when I was young enough to learn it easily, I was not considered deaf enough to attend the school. I speak like a normal person, but I struggle with hearing.

[@aneiasl]

Thanks for the Video! I teach American Sign Language at a high school level, this is a great video to show and start a class discussion!

[@hairyfrankfurt]

This was actually really saddening. It's easy to take for granted our "inner voice" and how important it is with reading, thinking and how it is a massive part of our distance from the animal kingdom.

[@Christs_Soldier]

Wow... we take so much for granted. Even trying to think of how life would be without the basic senses that we depend on for our day to day lives can do no justice. This video really shows just how many areas of our lives could get affected even if there's nothing wrong with you apart from the fact that you lack the function of one sensory organ. Makes you really think. Most of us are so blessed to have everything work perfectly, and yet, we don't use our full potential.

[@elspeth._.w]

my sister is deaf. we use BSL to help her, but use spoken English most of the time.

[@nataliasl2920]

This is such an incentive to learn sign language, I'm bilingual and sometimes dream in English and Spanish, I can't even imagine the new kind of dreams that I will be able to have by learning sign language.

[@yetzalischm9711]

I've been studying two years Sign Language (Germany) for becoming a Sign Language interpreter before i quit and moved abroad. During my time signing every day, I realized i'd think and sometimes even Dream in sign language!! Shortly after, while living abroad I learned english (mostly for work) and spanish (everyday usage) - boy had I fun in terms of my thoughts switching inbetween all four languages depending on the situation!!!

[@MystikkShadow]

I asked my completely deaf grandma this about a year ago, and she thought about it and then signed "I don't know". Very helpful hahah

[@emmy9616]

Wow, this messes with my head. I can't even imagine not thinking in "sound". What a different world view.