How do Gaming Mice This Bad Even Exist?

[@TheSilverFX]

something I noticed yesterday when I was at the Dollar Store: Companies nowadays are labelling the mice as " gaming mice ", but in the end I think the term " gaming mouse " is just to mention the mouse has some RGB lightings

[@WhiteZet1]

DPI buttons / RGB / honey comb.

[@nicascz7389]

True

[@Ursoro]

My dollar store sells gaming headphones, keyboards, and mice. (Headphones suck i got one as a temporary fix)

[@envity2425]

@@Ursoro all that makes them "gaming headphones" to the companies is that they have a "cool" look and like 2 megatons of rgb on it.

[@ricedbroccoli]

The "gaming" product trend is a cancer thats just meant to syphon money out of little kids wallets. Gaming products at the cheap end are just office equipment that is designed to look clones of actually good products and have some cheap RGB thrown in. If you look at cheap mouses, they usually look like some mix of a Death adder and G502/G903. Same thing with the keyboards. Usually a crappy membrane with RGB thrown in there that is meant to look like a Razer Black Widow.

[@thecompanioncube4211]

3:50 wow a $3 office mouse can outdo that shit. The only reason it has such high rating and number of reviews is they might have given cashback coupons for 5 star ratings with the mouse.

[@nexeon31]

Gaming mouse trap? HELL YEAH

[@enchantednightcrawler6629]

We need gaming rat poison next

[@subbot8077]

It's got an aRGB sign that says COME IN!

[@willuigi64]

rgb rat poison

[@mqcapps]

Naturally the best is the most expensive...not necessarily the most useful. The mouse costs more than the game.

[@eagle7015]

Yessirr

[@Ellipsis115]

1:44 Good to see the superlight also does well in this test, this one to me is much more important than click latency as it effects not just every frame but even within the frame how consistently your movements are registered and how quickly you can make readjustments.

[@crabz4732]

I mean come on, it's a $150 msrp mice. At that point it literally have to be good.

[@sujimayne]

The most overlooked difference? Maximum acceleration. An office mouse, for example, simply isn't designed for low sensitivity or DPI scenarios where movement of the mouse would have to be tracked fast. This results in you moving your mouse in, let's say, an FPS game and your character struggling and lagging behind due to the mouse sensor not being able to catch up. Then there is also sensor precision itself, DPI adjustment and latency (especially if wireless). I am assuming that these budge mice are more akin to office mice than gaming mice.

[@ladmad9196]

problem is that even on desktop the cursor spazzes out with these

[@Jordan-qs7ym]

Hit the nail on the head

[@dann6067]

You are absolutely correct. I switched to a cheap dell office mouse for a while after my gaming mouse broke and swiping that mouse fast on low sens in CS go felt like there was a 300ms input delay.

[@toanoan4250]

yes most buyers are attracted in dpi instead of ips, acc speed and latency :(

[@rQuilln]

not just the acceleration, but also the Maximum Tracking Speed (counted in Inches per second).

[@Savage-Destiny]

"The weight of this mouse is over 90 grams." Me who still uses the 121g G503: "Wow that sounds super heavy compared to the Superlight."

[@SolarianStrike]

Meanwhile I am sitting here with my Rival 700 @135g lol.

[@vukstlol]

@@SolarianStrike 151 grams 🥲

[@lemonke5341]

i used to have a g402 that sh is 142 grams gad dayum

[@lemonke5341]

oh nvm just googled it its 102 grams

[@Folsomdsf2]

Don't worry bro, you just have this minor thing called muscles.

[@confusedturtle183]

I can't really grasp how entertaining this video was. Even though I'm not looking for a mouse to buy anymore as I bought my Razer Deathadder V2 a month ago, this is some juicy content. Thanks Ali!

[@MyRageIsOP]

Was debating between DA v2's shape and Viper Ultimate's weight, ended up with VU, but I swear I want DA v2 in my collection so much, happy for you man.

[@Jordan-qs7ym]

#DeathAdder v2 Gang

[@confusedturtle183]

@@MyRageIsOP Yea I really liked v2's shape too as it was similar to my previous mouse. It's a bit taller too, but I got used to it in less than a week. It's awesome.

[@NN010]

I went from the Deathadder Elite to the Viper (pre-8000 MHz) and I found that, whilst the Deathadder is certainly a good mouse, the Viper is a better fit more my hands and that I didn’t have to adjust my grip as much to stay comfortable (and I have a big hands and normally use a palm grip).

[@TheOfficialLBG]

@@MyRageIsOP c

[@spicyclips552]

“You could even go rock climbing with this and probably be safe” I subbed

[@MyRageIsOP]

So Delux M800 actually does have a noticeable click latency. I felt myself completely fucking braindead when I was missing flick shots I was 100% sure I aimed for both in Kovaak's and with Wingman in Apex, but when I switched to Viper Ultimate, most of them actually disappeared and I was very surprised. Thank you, Ali.

[@vvvvooooiiiidddd]

It really does, it's something I can notice in game as well. Doesn't really bother me on COD, but on any competitive 5v5 game it's a noticeable disadvantage. Too bad you can't change the debounce time, even when using another software like the BTL Gretxa one, editing the cfg file of the software to read the Delux. It's common on mice with Sino Wealth MCUs, and even works on the wired 3389 version of the M800. All the other mice using the same MCU and the 3335 have 15ms of debounce time and ~16ms of click latency compared to the Ikari, and also cannot change the debounce time on the software, and no firmware update for any of those. This includes the M800DB, DM6 Holey Duo, LTC Mosh Pit and a few others. Just something I've noticed.

[@progenji6407]

I had the same with model O Wireless/ Model D set debounce time to 0MS and it went away, hitting crazy flicks in cs now again.

[@brianvalenciaaravena3851]

@@progenji6407 how i can change the debounce time? i dont see an option in the software

[@progenji6407]

@@brianvalenciaaravena3851 differs between mice model D you go to performance settings and model o wireless go to performance, click on the right side of the app (dont click the dpi) and it should appear

[@hibbanzmksyr2033]

i already buy M899 from G305 i feel same like you. i need 3 month to try if im not getting better i will sell it

[@PhreakDarkSoul]

6:02 Just for the protocol: Paracord should *not* be used for rock climbing! Even a very thick one would kill you faster then you can send those amazon mices back. ;)

[@Benefits]

I got my Razer Viper Mini for $17.99 brand new on Amazon during a sale. Best mouse I've ever used.

[@scarletvan4749]

damn bro congrats. That's one insane deal you got there

[@tomorrow5774]

lol, and i thought my $16 viper mini was suspicious

[@generalyido]

Same but I got it off from some other website. The thing's just amazing for the price.

[@balramchhabra1058]

I know it was on a sale for 20 dollars

[@cenkcakr6793]

Im still amazed how the fuck this mouse competes with top end mouses lmao the best shit ever I spend money on it

[@nobodydraws1022]

5:40 bro you can see the mouse scratching the dead skin of the mouse pad 💀

[@AssassinKID]

Please do *Budget Amazon Gaming Keyboard Trap* next :)

[@TheGentleChainsaw]

Yeah, I can't be the only one hoping that Ali turns this into an entire series. I'll understand if *he* doesn't want to resort to more regular online dumpster-diving for the sake of content, but I'm just... showing my support for the idea.

[@AssassinKID]

@@TheGentleChainsaw he could follow up with what people should get within the budget (or a slight increase in price) and show what they can get for the money (the performance increase bar chart, discussion about what's important, etc.) I think it can be a good series, and very relevant in times like this where GPUs are expensive and people's budget for peripherals might be more restricted.

[@Grimmwoldds]

I don't think that would be a good video. The mice are often pretty bad, with problems ranging from the shell/glides to the sensor to the buttons to the design. Keyboards however are often "fine" except for all the random QA defects. I think it comes down to the fact that so much of the feel is on the switch/keycap, and those are just commodity parts (much like say, G. Skill or thermaltake doesn't make their own RAM chips) made in China. If they have a competent PCB, and didn't go dumpster diving for switches(probably Outemu good or bad, which is roughly equivalent to any mainstream big brand mech KB). I mean, a mouse wants to track your position in space. A keyboard just registers "on or off" for about a hundred pressure sensors on a non-mobile baseplate.

[@TechWithBruno]

Keyboards are way more forgiving than mice, most of the really cheap ones are more than fine even for gaming.

[@sebastianvangen]

I haven't understod how keyboards depends in gaming. I just experience the click feeling when i playing not that i become more better.

[@Shvok]

With this testing setup you have and the LDAT, I'd love to see what kind of an effect that running high performance mice through a USB hub can have. If any.

[@therealist2000]

The sensors matter to me, especially for tracking and movement for productivity. Clicking, selecting and highlighting text is super accurate when using my G305

[@strike.2868]

Same

[@HuyV]

@@strike.2868 For productivity the G305 simply has too few buttons. But that's just me I guess. I use the G604 for most things and the battery modded G305 if I need the lighter weight. I wish they'd install that magspeed wheel from the Master 3 in other mice, but I guess that will never happen to not cannibalize the Master series.

[@floorgang420]

The only bad thing about the G305 is the double click issue. It's by design. I replaced my mouse twice during warranty.

[@michaelbebop6868]

@@floorgang420 yeah same my g305 double clicks

[@333dae]

@@floorgang420 yep, same with my g102 and g305, I ended up switching to razer because their optical switches are supposed to last way longer, 1 year with my deathadder mini and no issues yet, wish they made it wireless tho

[@JVIoneyman]

Would love to see how the mid-priced Pulsar Xlite Wireless stacks up against the GPX or VU in sensor/click latency. Looks like a great EC2 alternative if it performs well. Hard to blindly trust the wireless on these smaller companies for me.

[@madsiesOW]

i must say, with the 2nd mouse not tracking flicks, i had a similar mouse, it obviously isnt good, but when my main mouse broke, i had some rly bad office mouse that did the same, but it actually made me a better player, it made me calm down my aim and use a smoother style of aim instead of just hard flicking onto enemies It was good practice but not a good experience, i actually peaked in rank on some £5 microsoft mouse.

[@gwepo]

4:23 bruh my old mouse which costed like $4 was better than this😭😭

[@ElishaPervezORG]

Real

[@sanjisanpu]

There are just a lot of casuals who play with absurdly high dpi and sensitivities that won't even notice any of those issues. They barely move their mouse and are at best aiming in the general direction of the enemy. I've argued with these people and they still think it makes them faster and all the pros are doing it like this.

[@tojassargaja2085]

Everyone thinks that at some point of their lives. Some of them realize that aiming is mutch easyer with low dpi and sense you just have to get used to it, and the rest of them stay noob. (except Woxic)

[@sanjisanpu]

@@tojassargaja2085 Well, compared to most casuals even woxic's settings are practically low sensitivity. That's also something many people don't get. They refer to the so-called exceptions to make their point about it just being a preference completely ignoring that even the exceptions play with something like a quarter of their ridiculous sensitivity.

[@Henk14789]

Yes yes, what a bunch of noobs. But most of us do a lot more with our pcs than game, and no one want to drag their mouse to browse the web or use powerpoint...

[@jordanbrad2298]

@@Henk14789 Well you can do that. If you have High DPI, it will be fast outside the game. You then compensate by lowering the ingame sensitivity is SUPER low. That will result in fast outgame speed and what I consider normal ingame speed. But if I'm being honest, I actually lowered my sensitivity at school to get my arm used to low sensitivity just in case I ever got into PC gaming. Turns out I did which is pretty funny looking back on it. It also allowed for better precision while clicking on stuff. Maybe it's just worth a shot.

[@sanjisanpu]

@@Henk14789 It takes me about 10 cm (4 inches) to drag the cursor across the screen. It's hardly a problem even at low dpi settings which aren't even necessary for proper gaming settings.

[@a-nature]

That honeycomb on at the beginning, from Ziyou Lang, I had a very similar one. It was wired though and looked a little different. But the sensor was just as bad and it was also very scratchy. I think that brand is just one of those brands that sell products that work ok before people realize that it’s terrible stuff and it’s too late to return it. My sensor didn’t only stop. The entire mouse disconnected after too fast of movement. The lights turned off, Windows made the disconnect sound, and it stopped working. Every time I had to press the USB a bit back in. Then I tried to exchange it to get a new one, they responded and said they’d get back to me, and never did lol. It’s the problem with these random brands you’ve never heard of. They are sometimes so sketchy. Also the lighting on it was trash. It was just a bulb and some mesh was under the honeycomb shell, to cover the insides. So the bulb was covered and the lighting looked disgusting. It was this flashing RGB, that just flashed. No smooth transition or anything. Jeez the thing was bad. It even costed $45 CAD. That’s quite a bit of money for a piece of trash like that. Those tiny blue Logitech office mice from the dollar store work better. Ended getting the Steelseries rival 600, which now feels like heaven

[@KeebCats]

One of the best cinematography and thorough content creators on KZbin covering peripherals? I am SOLD! New keyboard video when

[@kaihobart5489]

Mans getting headshots with ease while his mouse is barely working

[@phigina]

would love to see you compare these mice to standard office (wired/wireless)

[@Arek_R.]

I have some dell mouse at work that came with the excel prebuild PC, it's soo light that it moves itself just from tension from the cable lol.

[@agumon1605]

Got some 2$ logitech mice at my work, the mouse itself is kinda ok but the cables are heckin stiff

[@griffin1366]

I tried to play CS:GO sneakily on the work PCs once. The mouse itself seems fine when using it but when gaming oh boy, avoid like the plague.

[@spd3ictpro]

Office mice is not in the same league for the moment.

[@phigina]

@@spd3ictpro says who?, thats why im suggesting him do so

[@agenocidalpolarbear1079]

"They likely appeal to really young kids, who didn't know any better, " *Guilty* Info: 1 dollar Is equivalent to 5 RM in my country. So a 30 dollar mouse can cost up to 124.60 RM in my country. If you can earn 30 dollars in a month, it needs to take me at least 5 months to earn 124.60. Plus my parents are Asian and I have to save money myself to buy something I want. Before covid starts my weekly wages is 35 RM. Since I'm a student, I separated the money to 7 RM per day. (The weekends don't count bc there's food at home.) I usually spend 2 RM a day to save for my Monitor, PC, Keyboard, and gaming mouse. Sometimes I end up really hungry and spend it all though. PS: I'm the middle child, so a year after I bought my PC (This year) my mother bought a laptop for my sister and a PC for my little brother. TL;DR: You guys are lucky af

[@joseandre4603]

i miss my ex

[@JoeyPalma]

During the first half of mice, I thought this video was just going to be a roller coaster of Ali's outrage that only went up! But it kinda tapered out at the end, but the last mouse was still pretty sucky lol. Good work as always, Ali.

[@Blurseddragon]

I am not gonna lie I thought this mouse was the bloody a70 phew 5:56

[@NoorHassangamer]

5:36 mouse i bought around between 2015-2017 for around 4$ in 3rd world country and amazon is selling to first world country for 9$ in 2021

[@333dae]

imo mice is the one thing you can't get away with by cheaping out if you play fps games, I've gotten away with shitty membrane keyboards, horrible sounding headsets, paper mousepad, but the mice is just way too important to be the weak point

[@lizardpeter]

I currently use my Viper 8K, but I got my Viper Mini at Best Buy for $19. It is an INSANE MOUSE! At that price, even people who are just casual PC users would find it to be a cool mouse. For gaming, I think it is the best or the second best. If they release an 8K Hz version with the Focus+ sensor, I will probably switch to that. When it goes on sale for only $19 again, I think I'll buy it for my mom's office PC too, lol.

[@xx_senshi_xx]

i want a drag click review

[@tipoomaster]

I find sensor lift detection is one of the biggest flaws with the cheap ones. Nothing more annoying than lifting the mouse to re-position it and having your sights move around.

[@budgetking2591]

the razer viper mini has this big time

[@TheAnarchist99]

I wish I'd seen this video earlier. I got a Logitech mousepad and but still used my generic "gaming mouse" because I didn't even care. Now my mousepad is scratched only after 2 months of use because of how terrible the glides of my generic mouse are. I switched to a gaming mouse recently and the difference is day and night, but it's a shame that the lifespan of my mousepad got dramatically reduced for using a cheap mouse :(

[@drmirk]

Nice video! I think an entertaining video would be to check out very old mice from the 2000-2010 (like the MX518) to check out how they hold up and compare to modern standards

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Could go even further back and test the old WMO 1.1a

[@堌]

I’ve used that cheap mouse you mentioned at the start before because I just needed some budget peripherals for my setup and It is by far the worst mouse I’ve ever used. Like you mentioned in the video, the sensor tracking is pretty horrible. It’s somewhat responsive but every time I did fast movements it wouldn’t register correctly. Another thing I noticed when using this mouse is the weight distribution is absolute terrible on this thing. It makes aiming an actual nightmare. One thing you didn’t point out is that the so called “software” they advertise with that mouse is actually malware according to Google. Not to mention the software is so hard to find that the only way I even got to their page was from a Reddit post about the mouse. Im genuinely shocked products like this are allowed to be sold on Amazon. Eventually I bought a better mouse after the sensor just stopped working on the cheap mouse and my new mouse works great. To anyone seeing this, Never cheap out on peripherals.

[@silverwerewolf975]

4:00 i love how his bullets always go to the head like a magnet, magic of first world servers....

[@SLUGMUH]

I just want to say, they fixed a lot of the things you said about the delux m800

[@MarkLangdahl]

I am probably just too old and set in my ways but my last two mice have had a system for weight adjustment (corsair m65 rgb and logitech g500) and I have always used them with the maximum amount of weight because I feel it makes it somewhat easier to control. So I really don't get the idea of mice needing to be as light as possible. But then again I rarely play anything more action packed than Warframe and definitely nothing competitive. I have considered going wireless. But that is it for me I guess. Reasonably heavy and hand sized for me, thanks... 🙂

[@thedofflin]

Lighter mice make sense when you dramatically lower your sensitivity and are working with high refresh rates. The control and snappiness of a Superlight at 240+ fps is really something.

[@maximm.6969]

It was the same for me back in the days when I still used to aim with my wrist. But when you start to play with the whole arm and on low sens (I am typically close to the lowest value in all of my FPS) it really starts to make a difference in accuracy and comfort.

[@veduci22]

@@maximm.6969 The weight of the mouse is pretty much subjective thing and I know a lot of people who prefer heavier mouses with low sensitivity. It's actually people who use medium sensitivity who like light mouses because it's much more comfortable to make smaller movements with wrist.

[@LiveType]

That's fine. Lighter mice are helpful because of the low sensitivity. It helps with acceleration times and every 5g is noticeable at that point because you're not using just your wrist. If you don't do that, then weight will make almost no difference.

[@salad2357]

The main argument is that with lower weight less effort is needed to move the mouse which results in better precision

[@bubbleman91]

there are two versions of the Delux M800. One with an 3325, the other with an 3335. The 3335 comes with Kailh 4.0 and is over all a solid mouse imo (if you get it for 40 bucks or less). There are even some Corepad skates ( I wouldn't use this mouse with stock skates :D) and grip tape for this mouse :D

[@nik14116]

which version is better?

[@bubbleman91]

@@nik14116 3335 is better, but now there's also a 3370, which is the best so far

[@ducminh7568]

@@bubbleman91 did you try remove the plastic sticker from pad, I heard it is the problem. Please let me know if your experience is better so i can decide to buy it.

[@remn3nt266]

This man is dunking on people with a mouse that works 50% of the time

[@mohammadmalik9075]

how is a mouse that doesnt work 50% of the time a good thing?

[@kunaldes]

@@mohammadmalik9075 it's not. But I think Remn3nt was talking about the bit at 3:39 when Ali was still playing shockingly well despite his mouse not moving half the time.

[@45545videos]

I had a cheapo "gaming mouse" from Amazon. I realized that it would only register two keys at once... which is a problem when you're using push to talk

[@眠くてスリム]

I'm really happy with delux m800 wireless, coming of of steelseries sensei.

[@TrueNero]

What a brilliant video idea! Finally someone who is able to save the world from pollution and wasting time and money! Keep it up!

[@IIHydraII]

If you want a good budget mouse, I highly recommend the Logitech G305, fantastic wireless mouse at around £30.

[@mesaber86]

Using it. Its awesome!

[@EmeffMonkey]

Battery life is crazy, too. One AA battery lasts me around 3 months of daily use.

[@joe-bw6wy]

im using it too, 50 aud + 5 for tiger ice feet 77g

[@ahdog8]

I got the G305 and I was pretty happy with everything until the scroll wheel crapped itself after less than 2 years. (It keeps skipping in the wrong direction). I dunno if I was just unlucky but Logitech scroll wheels seem to love to break for me. EDIT: oops I didn't realize this thread was 2 years old

[@lexmaun69]

I once go to store to buy a 2$ mice and I freaking love it, until I bought my first expensive mice from razor, thats where I realize that expensive mice are god tier and started halting cheap mice. Until, I once again returned to store after years away from cheap peripherals to buy a cleaner for peripherals, I saw this young average child buy a 1.5$ mice, he looks super happy and jumping because of excitement. That's where I realize that somethings is worthy to someone.

[@farzamimani5339]

I already have a g pro x superlight but I still watch every mouse video just because of how good and entertaining they are. Keep it up man

[@crayoneater_1699]

same here!

[@crayoneater_1699]

same here!

[@Raxceryte]

I feel like the BEST budget friendly, wireless mouse would be the corsair Harpoon for $40 or sometimes less. Even cheaper wired. A lot of well known brands have some really cheap wired mice. its like $29 for a wired harpoon mouse.

[@sig3ldunc4nI]

The versiontech sounded like you were chopping a tree down when moving it around.

[@gavianrizz]

Me: *”mom can we get a gaming mouse”* Mom: *”no we have gaming mouse at home”* Gaming mouse at home:

[@kowhaifan1249]

8/10 comment: unoriginal format but used in a creative way and using content from the video makes this a sure good comment

[@Akshun82]

07:22 Me too sensor, me too...

[@Chris-eq6jb]

This is why I mostly buy mice from reputable brands like Logitech, Razer, Glorious, SteelSeries, and Redragon.

[@KiloMegaGigaTerra94]

As always, you videos are really awesome. I would like you to know that a lot of us enthusiasts look at you as one of the few truly reputable sources for latency testing. I hope your testing continues. More power to you, your content and your channel. Cheers Man!

[@Ray_of_Light62]

In addition to a fast scanning circuit, a good mouse must use a good quality infrared laser as light source, and the mouse sensor camera must use a quality optical glass lens. You should connect an oscilloscope across the camera, in order to measure its quality. My experience is that above the £ 25 price, there is little improvement. The response time is anything between 15 and 20 milliseconds. Thank you for the video. Anthony

[@WTP_DAVE]

Love the charts and standard deviation

[@synonymous123]

I can personally vouch for the VersionTech Gaming mouse, You should buy the mouse if: 1. you want one of the cheapest mice with extra side buttons 2. loud and clicky main switches 3. a comfortable feeling while holding it (I use palm grip, but it was good for claw, okay for fingertip grips) 4. some very bright RGB to boost your confidence in gaming I've had it for a year and it works fine, I do play occasional games with it and it performs ok (im no pro gamer but I did get a 30 kill streak with this mouse) im a high sensitivity player so I didnt notice the wire pulling but i do use it on my desk without a mouse pad and it is very smooth. just make sure you clean your glides and desk where you use it once in a while or the glides do get scratchy.

[@gabri_777]

You should bring back the reaction to your subscribers setups...

[@optimumtech]

Soon :)

[@maggifrischundlecker5349]

@@optimumtech I already cleaned up my room for it

[@aringiri1946]

@@optimumtech I want a thermal paste for my laptop which is equipped with a r5 4600h and a 1660 so with which paste should I go with kryonaut, noctua nt nh1 ,or artic mx4 which one will last 8 -10 months without drying or significant rise in temp

[@solarbear7184]

1:49 bro uses like 0.0001 sensitivity 💀💀💀

[@unoyoon1112]

thank you so much for making this video, now I'm proud of myself making choice to buy g pro wireless when I really suck at valorant and mostly plays google docs and zoom.

[@MekaniQ]

Google Docs Grinder

[@andytypes8271]

your mouse testing so great. Honestly wish there was a list like yours for every new mouse.

[@beegee6559]

the deluxe m800 uses kailh 4.0s top of the line, just implemented poorly. also the sensitivity issues you were feeling was DPI variation. the 3335 sensor is notorious for it. other than that its a very solid $40 mouse.

[@NeedMoarRage]

3:23 makes me shudder, what a waste to even produce this mouse

[@ricardombr]

3:35 My mouse came with my pc (lenovo default office mouse (not office pc)) and it does the same, at least it doesnt have sensor issues other than tracking when it mooves to fast.

[@ВладиславКонопля-с9ъ]

Dude, there’s no way that some of these mice are THAT bad to the point where the sensor doesn’t even track. I literally use an $5 wireless mouse from dollarama and it literally works perfectly. I play Minecraft all the time and i never had the sensor not track or anything. There’s no way the 20 dollar mice are worse than a 5 dollar mouse from dollar store 💀

[@ArtemSayapov]

I mean, I used to play minecraft with a trackpad, so I think these mice wouldn't be worse than your mouse for minecraft

[@evilgamer6382]

I don't know about you guys but I for one like heavy mouses ......

[@OliverCaldwell]

I'd LOVE to see your high quality latency testing but running through various peripherals such as large USB 3 / USB-C hubs and "daisy chains" of monitor -> hub -> PC. It's always been something I've been concerned about, especially with LOTS of USB devices running through two USB hubs into a single USB-C port. Can the port really handle 1000hz polling properly with all that noise? So a kind of best case USB hub and worst case scenario where you're trying to saturate the port, does it make a difference at all or is it identical to plugging directly into the mobo. Love your content, thank you!

[@boi2192]

6:22 and the fact that this mouse is a copy of bloody a70 (to ppl who dont know bloody mice have extremely fast switches)

[@DonkeyMasterv]

The bloody a is pretty bad to it’s only good for Minecraft

[@DustyTheDog]

2:10 I have a Razer Deathadder and that looks almost exactly like the body of the mouse, with the Razer not having the honeycomb. It's wack how companies can get away with getting so close to official designs.

[@painz_yt]

I know...

[@daniellarajimenez6273]

0:54 why the hell does the logo look low res even irl

[@wat5]

about the 2nd mouse, i was going to buy 1 but the owner said they will give me a better one if i give them a positive review which explained the rating despite the crappy quality, furthermore almost every shop with that mouse asked me to do the same thing

[@deeprosanjidqais8593]

This video is definity one hell of a comedy. I can't stop laughing at times. Damn.

[@crypeton]

It got 4 stars because most of the buyers are not playing FPS or simply not a hardcore gamer in FPS. I have a friend of mine who actually buy one of these and he actually thought that it was a decent mouse. He is not a PC gamer but he just got into it recently from playing mobile games since 5 years ago. The honeycomb and RGB really does look appealing to him hence why he bought it. However he didn't realize that the sensor of the mouse was really bad in FPS such as valorant.

[@bpgpw]

"The only way to get a kill with this mouse is if the enemy just somehow walks into your crosshair" Hey, that's basically me with any mouse

[@lininator]

i was once one of those people that didnt know anything about mice but then i started watching youtubers like you that teach other people that not all mice are the same and i bought my g305 after i gave it to my friend because he was in need and bought a basilisk v3. Nice content!

[@phantom-origin7042]

6:10 its just a bloody a70 rip off designed to trick minecrafters who want to drag click on cheap mouse because they saw a pro using real one

[@lipopopo839]

I actually have one of them and it surprisingly can shortdrag but I doubt that is on purpose

[@arthurbarnwell9220]

that one with 4 star review with 400 reviews i got because a friend recommended it to me and jesus christ is was terrible im so glad you talked about the bottom of the mouse because i said that to him and he didnt see an issue with it

[@dylantran2319]

Just out of curiosity, could you do these latency tests with different kinds of keyboards?

[@Devstaa]

Rock climbing with a mouse cord. That’s a pretty good one 😂

[@HOLOHOAXTND]

Since I'm poor and can't afford really good product like super light I really liked this video.

[@koraptd6085]

Vipera można wyrwać za ~150 zł czasem, więc wystarczy tylko trochę pozbierać... Zresztą Logitechy za stówę też są całkiem całkiem.

[@8bitsamurai6]

You can always get from Amazon warehouse if available or buy slightly used from eBay. Just takes a lil hunting but I got a superlight for half the price and a GPW for $35 one time. Just needed to deep clean it but now good as gold.

[@meunknown69420]

you can get something like a razer viper mini, g203 or rival 3

[@Usicky12]

I think the Logitech g305 is a great choice for cheap and wireless. I have the g pro wireless personally but can’t go wrong with the 305

[@BuzzGoober2329]

I bought the viper mini recently, it’s my first real gaming mouse and wow… you really don’t realize how bad cheap mice are. and the viper mini is pretty cheap too! With how often I needed to buy cheap mice cause they kept breaking I could’ve bought 2-3 viper minis by now

[@sullygtx9350]

"Heavy AF... with total weight of 105 grams." Looking at my 115 gram G502 Lightspeed: "It's okay little buddy, it's what on the inside that counts."

[@maxzett]

Same. It's honestly BS that 115g is considered "unusable" heavy. It's all a matter of getting used to it. I guess I could even perform with a mouse that weights 500g. Back then almost every mouse used in Esport was around 100g and Noone had an issue with it. I'm using a G502LS as well and I'm very good with it and have 0 issues because of its weight. I even tested several other mice (also the Superlight) and didn't like them, even after 2months of getting used to it.

[@rajatverma360]

I have Razer Deathadder V2 now , only thing i hate about it is its Right click is really soft for my palm aiming style .

[@bikesandcoff3e]

Delux m800 (3335 sensor with the good clicks) and corepads skates is one of the best investments I've made for 60 usd total. Although, the side buttons are really bad. If they ever make a V2, I hope they would make it better. 3325 version comes with omron switches. 3335 version comes with kaihl 4.0 left, right, scroll switches.

[@vvvvooooiiiidddd]

The scroll switch is a square button tho, same for the side ones. The Kailh GM 4.0s are only on the main buttons. If it came with good PTFE feet it would've been perfect, I also really love the shape and the clicks.

[@hafizsulaiman4057]

I got the 3335 one. The side buttons felt good and clicky. I'm curious to know how it's bad from your experience. Also, is it worth it to buy the corepads skates? I'm considering about it.

[@bikesandcoff3e]

@@hafizsulaiman4057 I got corepads the second they dropped on the German website months ago. A massive game changer to the stock scratchy feet.

[@bikesandcoff3e]

@@vvvvooooiiiidddd When I opened up the mouse the scroll wheel was a black labeled kaihl switch. Would definitely recommend copping some Corepads.

[@vvvvooooiiiidddd]

​@@bikesandcoff3e I didn't notice if the scroll switch had a brand on it, just that it was a square one, didn't even measure it tbh but it's probably a ~7.3mm one. The encoder on my unit is a Kailh Grey Core 10mm, and it actually feels pretty "meh". Loose steps and not that tactile. I'm waiting for some Kailh 800K encoders I bought from aliexpress. And yeah, aftermarket feet are a MUST for this mouse

[@srirangamsk]

3:34 I do have that exact one but it’s in black, would not recommend I’m having my gaming experience multiplied tenfold using my old office mouse

[@nnaavvoorr]

love your vids so much, the amount of effort you put into your content is really respectable, keep at it man! :)

[@ramyissa20]

I have to admit I'm watching your videos mainly because your thumbnails are so clean!

[@nayanpitlam5621]

hell yeah someone who digs deep is finally covering the m800

[@baseexploits9512]

i main it and its godlike, corepads on it and its a dream :p

[@nayanpitlam5621]

@@baseexploits9512 yea man totally

[@coledeb]

@@baseexploits9512 agree, just got my Corepads in last week and I love it even more as a result

[@cliptch978]

A lot of reviewers still find a way to have a complain on it also they compare it to much higher price mouse , lol its a 40$wireless mouse and even boardzy likes it

[@nayanpitlam5621]

@@cliptch978 boardzy legend gg poggers 100 emoji

[@kirokyo]

I used to not believe in gaming gear, but after using my first gaming grade mouse (Logitech G502) 5 years ago, I immediately felt the much finer movement sensor and exceptional latency. Before that I was using office mice and cheap "gaming" mice from Amazon, which is much worse than today's cheap gaming mice. You truly get what you pay for.

[@hovhannibang]

Can you do a video about whether or not you need a mousepad nowadays? I think using your new mouse testing contraption you can do a pretty scientific test to check if there is any difference in latency on different surfaces like glass, wood, vinyl etc. Thanks!

[@minutenreis]

even if you wouldn't need it for the sensor, the feet have less resistance (mostly), its quieter, its less straining on said feet and small deviancies are evened out

[@davidzhou3923]

The versionTech mouse was designed carting to internet cafes which charges 30 to 50 cents/ hour in Asia. Ppl usually do not play any shooter games in those cafes but windowed online mmo rpgs. For that usages, they fulfil their roles.

[@pyrohp]

2:20 fake model o i see

[@godsleftcheek]

*model d

[@kamponger]

It looks like a razer deathadder mouse, but its honeycombed😂

[@IcarusLIVE]

Any shot you could give the Pulsar XLITE wireless a review / test with the new testing methodology? Been wanting to try one but prefer to hear your perspective first if you can get a free review model?

[@felippepires]

Wow, I thought the Delux M800 was really a good mouse, too bad it isn't because it's cheap, its micro switches are Kaihl GM4.0 if I switch to GM2.0 would the click delay solve it?

[@seawead7671]

I never really got the expensive gaming mouse and keyboard trend, Ive had friend that dumped hundreds on a keyboard and a mouse, and I have a $60 full setup, one of my friends bragged to me that their stuff was better, but when I asked how it was better thr inly thing they could come up with was color, every other difference between the both were very hard to notice, I dont see myself in the future spending more than 5x the price of a normal mouse just for color that I wont be able to see unless I blackout my room or stay up at night.

[@zamnbro4472]

0:01 why does that look like the viper mini

[@goated_koja]

it’s modeled after the mini

[@silva29]

One of the few mouse review videos where the reviewer actually plays games and is quite good at them. Subscribed. Just got myself a viper mini as an upgrade thanks to this channel.

[@RaedAlam]

I Use The Viper Mini 😊

[@nash1229]

LOL AT 5:39 is the mouse I got for Christmas before i got my laptop. It costed 500 rupees according to the price tag and when I got to use it, it started double clicking, parts were loosening, the scroll wheel was getting harder to scroll etc. All in under 5 months ( it was an older model tho and didn't have side buttons)

[@mellowmike1302]

are we just going to ignore the fact that he has a cpu cooler on his desk at 0:19

[@Jawd3544]

Yes we will ignore, in fact we are ignoring it for 3 years now

[@AveryTheShrimp]

it goes hard ngl

[@nodemon755]

4:20 Insane One Tap With The Mouse Tho

[@bataar6797]

g502 gang rise up

[@lokieditzzs]

Viper mini and cobra are better

[@ratking1330]

I personally love super heavy mice as when I lift the mouse, if its too light I often get lost of misinput or lean the mouse too far left or right, causing weird skidding on the side