How do we Determine River Value Bet Sizing?

[@joshgleicher2700]

The good ol situation where you hit your draw but the board pairs. Thanks for the excellent analysis Bart.

[@chezchezchezchez]

This was fantastic Bart. Easy to understand, and great advice

[@compteofficiel4112]

yeah, Bart is the man! you ought to go back and watch them all....

[@raimundasm4711]

Great hand. Turn is a difficult one. All straights, all two pairs, all sets. Bart, would you ever consider folding your flush draw here? We only get 20%. Obviously it's not a check raise bluff from villain. 6s and 3s are risky ones. So, we don't have that many outs. Or it depends on a raise size? I had folded a few times here. Would be great to hear your insights.

[@joshgleicher2700]

The raise was too small to fold to, good pot odds and implied odds with the nut flush draw But yeah, it signifies a strong hand hence the implied odds

[@nicks210684]

Josh Gleicher some RIO with flush draw if villain has sets or 76 though. But I’d discount 88, 66, 33 because I think most villains raise flop with those hands.

[@compteofficiel4112]

nah, it is correct to call the turn for pot odds alone

[@andrewtaylor995]

check back the turn all day. You picked up additional equity that you don't want to get check raised off of. His range was condensed once he called the flop bet, so the 7 helps his range more than yours.

[@Gos1234567]

Sets will nearly always check raise on that kind of flop,so easy to read that he had a staight.But any merit in lead jamming that straight on the river as over pairs probably wont call on that board anyway unless you bet very small and you may get a low flush to fold?Probably to advanced for 1/2$

[@pashadia]

Why not jam the river? It will put extreme pressure on the most likely hand, T9. In my experience at low stakes, very few people would check a full house on the river, and many would choose a different sizing on the turn with a set or two pair. A backdoor flush is a well hidden hand, and a jam looks so bluffy

[@compteofficiel4112]

i'd probably check back the turn and take the free card...what was he calling with that would fold there?

[@KevinConlon]

CLP continues to dominate educational poker content on KZbin. Just need Bart to tell us how to make Royal's in high-limit VP. 😋

[@compteofficiel4112]

good hand and good analysis, thank you

[@compteofficiel4112]

should villain have block-bet the river, do you think?

[@paulhamilton5420]

Hey Bart ... have you made a chart of what a limp four betting range should be for smaller stakes games ... $1/$2, $1/$3, $$2/$5, ? I’m curious as to what should be included in this area.

[@CrushlivePoker]

A limp 4 betting range? WTF

[@nicks210684]

All the hands listed should be limp-4 bet as standard:

[@compteofficiel4112]

@@CrushlivePoker well AA could be one, no?

[@andrewface1]

@@compteofficiel4112 as long as sometimes you limp fold AA for balance.

[@whataloadofbollox]

@@andrewface1 after watching an interesting clip, the above 5 comments wiped out anything I learnt from the clip !

[@georgewbushcenterforintell147]

I herd some poker strategy guy kept saying the showdown is pure. What dos that mean?

[@compteofficiel4112]

How much did your father pay to get you that Yale degree, exactly? What a disgrace...and what a traitor.

[@georgewbushcenterforintell147]

@@compteofficiel4112 Your mom is tractor driver

[@nathanwilliams9598]

I play at this room very often...usually good games as far as 1-2 NL games go

[@compteofficiel4112]

whats the rake at 1/2?

[@williamr4053]

@@compteofficiel4112 I believe the drop at 1/2 is $5 max once pot reaches $100. 1/2 game produces fairly sized pots often. Morning game is OMC’s, but a couple like to gamble. It’s a limp fest and you’ll mostly make your money from suckouts and coolering players. Friday and Saturday nights are good times to play. The 1/2 game is softer as more recs are coming in to play.

[@v.sandrone4268]

"Is this Post-Covid?" lol, is this a video from the future?

[@youwantsumo7041]

We still aren’t post COVID lmao

[@scalavision]

What hands are we afraid of losing to here? I can't see him having a full house on that board.

[@blakefredrickson6506]

Why not? 88, 77, 66 are all well within his range. Remember he limp called pre from UTG. Bad players do that all the time with middle pocket pairs. Especially 77 after the check call flop and check raise turn. As Bart noted, the check on the river probably means he doesn’t have the boat… but some fish do weird things at 1-2 in an attempt to be tricky, which obviously costs them value in the long but can surprise their opponents from time to time.

[@liyexiang666]

some more value... well, still didnt answer the question of all in vs the pot

[@tpatrickm1]

1-2 NL I turn a set and check. Villain bets $20, I raise to $60. He calls River is brick, I lead out for $100. He tanks for a few minutes and folds. What should my bet sizing have been?

[@murphyffl5541]

$72

[@compteofficiel4112]

you are being results-oriented....so he folded that time, maybe he missed a draw or something...doesn't mean villain will always fold...$100 into a pot of ___?

[@compteofficiel4112]

@@murphyffl5541 LOL

[@lukemarcantel1569]

I wish Bart would’ve helped this guy out with his bet sizings. He’s way off

[@stevenundisclosed6091]

Limps with 9 10o from UTG. Yeah, he deserved to lose that pot.