How Do You Start the First Panel of a Standing Seam Metal Roof? | NO SCRIPT with LukeWilson

Two of the most common questions we’ve gotten in response to our viral
bit.ly/metalroofingcomparison video are:
1. When installing a standing seam metal roof, how do you get the first panel started?
2. How do you trim out the roof at the end?
Luke Wilson answers both questions today by taking you through the step-by-step process of
how we do it at Skywalker. We hope you find this to be helpful, and we’d love to hear any
comments or questions you may have in the comments below. Please like and subscribe, too!
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[@BaloonLlama6056]

I’m literally in metal working class and watching this in the work shop while the others are in the class room 😂

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

That's too cool!!! That is great that you are taking time to educate yourself in the areas you want to pursue. Keep up the great work!!!

[@waltermatthewberg]

First thing I do is check where pipes are coming through to adjust the first piece so the seams miss most or all pipes. Then I chalk a line about 6 inches or so up parallel to the eave because most old buildings are out of square or wavey and the gables are rarely straight. Then I make another line perpendicular to the bottom line using the 3-4-5 method to indicate where I want the first panel to go. Having a perfectly square first panel will prevent sawtoothing.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

That is a good method, we do that as well.

[@SteveThompson-li2fc]

@@SkywalkerRoofingCompany instead of 3-4-5, can you not just place one panel at the rake, then another panel at the other end of the slope and then pop a chalk-line between the two panels in order to get a straight run without saw-toothing? Here in South Louisiana the decks are never square, including even new construction projects.

[@ShoshonSun]

Fantastic video, please make more of these for each portion f trim- ridge, bottom, valley, etc- these are fantastic and so helpful!

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Will do! Thank you

[@davemoores5945]

Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos. I am a red seal sheet metal worker who has spent most of my career in the custom fabrication side, and now I am trying to break into the architectural install sector. I've been working in an architectural shop for 3 years, made miles of flashing, cladding, roofing, and gutter, but haven't installed much. These videos are an absolute gold mine for me to study the trade and gain much needed insight into proper procedure. Again many thanks, incredible work.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Thanks Dave, let me know if you have any specific questions, I'll try to help.

[@rongray4118]

Great video!! Thank you for posting - my wife and I are trying to look into the best roof available for our off grid modified Earthship style home... the steps that you show are FANTASTIC!! Blessings!!

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Best of luck! Thank you

[@abike3969]

Thank you for the video and making it look simple

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Thank you, glad it was helpful

[@bappa8656]

Thank you for the valuable information

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

My pleasure

[@lesliesweeney368]

Good deal! Looking forward

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Right on!

[@marshallbeckawilliamson1458]

Thank you very informative

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Glad it was helpful!

[@user-ur2pg7sk9e]

I been shingle roofing for years im starting to learn the standing seam

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

That's great, it is a great way to separate yourself from the average roofer!!!

[@raulgarcia528]

Exelent excellent explanation. Thanks

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Glad it was helpful!

[@richardgroth3877]

Thank you

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

You're welcome

[@mcchupka9718]

Great tradecraft and craftsmanship. I am very impressed and to you’re point, I would be irate if I contracted a roofing contractor to install standing seam metal roof and they put screws through the panels.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Thank you

[@ivanmariscal7801]

Good job

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Thanks

[@jonwilder2735]

As an alternative method we trim the 1st panel to width plus 1.5” (for 1” eave trim)and crimp/hem the trimmed edge to lock over the rake trim. Then use hand crisper to lock in place just like bottom edge of panel. Very clean look. No Z trim or screws in topside of the panel.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

I agree that is a clean look. I worry about the wind lift at the edge without a screw on the roof panel. Thanks for your comment

[@holybible4174]

Much appreciated, nobody teaches this info

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Thank you, that's great to hear that it helps

[@paulellis5039]

I wish I could order my metal roof from you an ship it to Florida, the trim supplies I was given from the local supplier was so not wright, From watching your short clip I can go back an fix the trim to fit better. I must do my house at the end of the year ,so I will need to find a different company to order from , looking forward to more information on install.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Paul,I wish we could as well. It's all we can do just to fabricate all the metal we need for all our installs. I'm glad this video helped. If you need any help with dimensions on the trim or anything just let me know.

[@Shotbreak]

I was taught something along these lines, but we use a 10” clip system that has hooks on the rake edge, and bends up and over the rib of the starting and finishing panel to hook and slide the trim, matching the profile. Less material required using only 3-4 per rake trim (bottom, middle, seam/top). Uses less material and doesn’t require butyl and screws into the roof, not that this isn’t a good system 👍 If you’d like an image of what I’m explaining, I’ll be on a job next week and would be happy to share! ✌️

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Sounds great, I would love to see how you do it!!!

[@lmiller1528]

Look great! Enjoyed watching this. Do you know what technique is used for the edges on historic standing seam roofs? We are replacing standing seam roofs on some very old buildngs circa 1800's.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

The early standing seam roofs were hand crimped and locked into a drip edge similar to this

[@capefearcoinking2048]

I’m really enjoying these videos as they are very educational and detailed for anyone looking to learn to install. That being said, I have the material for a standing seam roof but I feel a bit overwhelmed as I’m not a metal guy by trade. I was a remodeling carpenter by trade and have a grasp but not enough confidence to tackle solo. Honestly, I simply can’t afford to hire a roofing contractor as the material alone just cost me more than material and install 7 months ago. Do you know any helpers looking for side work in the Wilmington area I could hire for a day or two to help with the install? Thanks

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

I'm very sorry, I don't know anyone in your area. Feel free to reach out for any questions during the install if you have more questions

[@renec0327]

We do all away to the corner and angle cut off but depends in the material

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

There are many ways to start and end the panels, thanks

[@jjarias7490]

Nice

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Thanks

[@jw8927]

You should explain how many fasteners are needed per foot and why are you screwing it where you’re screwing it and when you’re applying the tape and why so it makes more sense.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Good information, I will try to incorporate more of this in the future.

[@tableshaper4076]

How do you slide the rake trim piece on a long roof... like 30 plus feet?

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

We use 10' pieces because our sheet metal brake is 10'. It's not bad done in sections

[@jjarias7490]

Need more videos plz

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Jj, thank you. I am planning on getting back to getting content here again soon. We have been extremely busy at work and haven't had the time.

[@aandscrawfoski]

Hello there, how do the boys flash two 45 degree sheets on the ridge, keeping the standing seam or ridge profile or prickle along the top of the ridge please? I'm looking for a 12 inch ridge cap but must have no welding folded to 45 degrees for architectural appearance, rather than basic flat ridge cap. Thankyou.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

We just put a z bar like described in this video between every seam and the hem on the side of ridge cap will lock into the z bar.

[@TheHairyKarl]

Hey ya’ll, just wondering about how you get air flow, batten on the sheathing and vent strips?

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

yes, that is a option for airflow

[@bigbrotherinlife1654]

Great video, are there any vocational or trade school offering courses for roof installation. I see a huge opportunity in this trade but haven't bee able to find and anything

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

I'm not aware of any, I would recommend finding a good reputable roofer to go to work for and learn the trade that way. Let me know what area you are in and if I know any I'll recommend.

[@sfkillar]

My garage has a hip roof. How would you start the first panels on that type of roof?

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

We still work left to right and start in the corner, just very important to start it square with the eave

[@franciscoflores391]

Porfavor aga otro video pero en un techo 12/12 solo para ber la demonstration 👍🏻👊🏼👍🏻😁

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

OK, we will try

[@jerrymleko]

The rake hooks on to the t drip? You said the cleat you installed earlier but i didn’t see it…

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

There are 2 options on the rake edge to lock in the bottom of the rake trim. You can screw a cleat with a kick out or drip edge with kick out to lock in bottom edge.

[@sscra9693]

The panels, I believe, are made to expand and contract lengthwise along the clips. However, on the rake ends the panels are screwed down when the Z metal is attached so that they cannot expand without causing damage at the screw locations. It seems this is an inherent flaw. If I have a misconception, please help me understand. Thanks.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

In theory you are right, but on the rake edge I would want permanent fasteners holding the panel down for high wind situations.

[@sscra9693]

@@SkywalkerRoofingCompany Thanks for the reply. I understand your point. I think perhaps slotted holes would be an alternative that would allow for expansion and contraction, but allow the screws to hold the roofing down and act like guides as well as anchors.

[@qwerty57901]

What sort of machine do you use to fabricate the metal?

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Wilson, the machine we use is a Schlebach Quadro www.metalforming-usa.com/schlebach/quadro-cinco/ this is one of the few rollforming machines that makes panels and profiles that are Dade County approved.

[@madjeepernh6834]

I have a question. Say you're doing a 100ft run, how do you make sure the first panel is square so you don't run up or down by the end of the run? I've snapped lines along.the ridge but that is not enough.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

We typically use a line at the ridge, but as you go across the panels can move as you screw them down. If you see it start to run off, you can either pull the top of the panel or bottom of the panel to stretch it and start to correct it. You might have to do that to several panels to get back square. Hope this helps.

[@kevindowner766]

Have you heard of the 3 4 5 method?

[@robertboulet7686]

Doesn't the high temp membrane go over thye drip edge?

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Yes, it does in my area. We already had the underlayment down for other things and I just put it on top. If you're up north, it's common to install the ice and water across the eave and it would turn down the fascia behind the gutter to help with ice dams

[@foesseauau4178]

Dude how does the first panel locks into the drip edge trim is what most people are looking for.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

The panels are hemmed at the bottom and pulled up and locked into drip edge. My other videos will show this, sorry

[@thomasmistretta3309]

Wheres the rest of the video series?

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Sorry, we have been really busy. I intend to make more soon.

[@rudbeckia885]

What about a cold breather roof ?

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

I'm sorry, but not quite sure what you are referring to?

[@mateomartinez9025]

Is that 1"1/5 or 1"

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

1 1/2"

[@LuisluigiTexas]

Most codes and common sense require the eaves Underlayment go over the drip edge

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

That is correct and how we do it, just put it over the underlayment so you can see how the panels lock together

[@SteveThompson-li2fc]

Believe it or not, the new FORTIFIED code they are pushing here in the south calls for the underlayment to go underneath the drip edge at the eave.

[@user-hu2ye5bn3z]

Unfortunately this guy doesn't know any better the right way to start any standing seem application is you find the center of your roof so you don't end up with a narrow panel on the other end

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

These panels can only run one direction, there is a male and and a female side. Therefore, you should start on one end and measure across the roof to see how the panel will end up at the end and adjust. Unfortunately, you've never personally done a roof like this or you would know that.

[@t.j.5921]

Real shitty job with the edge metal.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Glad you enjoyed it!!!

[@tho52mas1]

seriously?? The guy just PUTS the first piece in, DOESN"T show the backside , or HOW it locks into the starter pieces...waste of time watching past that point.

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

Sorry you didn't enjoy the video, we do our best. maybe you should produce a better one that shows everything you want.

[@user-ds8db6ec1b]

Shouldn’t the underpayment go over the drip edge?

[@patmartin2730]

So the first panel being screwed won’t expand and contact now cause of the Z bar

[@SkywalkerRoofingCompany]

That is true, but I personally think the wind resistance is much greater with this method.

[@patmartin2730]

That makes sense! So the pros out way the cons!