How Donald Trump Plans to End the Russia Ukraine War

[@theglobalgambit]

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[@pluribus_unum]

You know this is a pro-Putin deal, why feign that that's not abundantly clear? Even the very neutral U.S. Military news source Stars & Stripes calls it like it is: _"Trump camp’s ideas for Ukraine cease-fire include long delay in NATO bid, land concessions."_

[@ThePaterfamilious]

DMZ wouldn't stop a attack through Belarus, Russia has done that already and Kyve is closer to that border anyway...

[@theglobalgambit]

@@ThePaterfamilious great point

[@AfterTheIce-q4j]

Of course the DMZ wouldn't stop either the Russians or Ukrainians from restarting the war at some point in the future. The DMZ is just a ceasefire line. It wouldn't provide any real security for Ukraine.

[@VoltageLP]

I don't see russia agreeing for a DMZ like that

[@TKUA11]

Agreed. Putin wants all of Ukraine he’s said that many times. He thinks all of Ukraine should be part of Russia. Besides he doesn’t want any more troops between him and the rest of Ukraine

[@Pooter-it4yg]

A lot of people in the West don't understand the geographical scale involved. The Maginot line was about 450 miles long. The Korean zone is about 150 miles long. The current "hot line" in Ukraine is about 750 miles long. The border between Ukraina and Belorus (from where the northern Russian group invaded) is about another 650 miles. Sound feasible? Another point - Trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize to hang on his wall and he'll probably threaten to sanction Norway to try to get it...

[@cyberfunk3793]

What does the length of the border have to do with it? They will have a long border in any cause anyway, no matter what. If there is a cease fire, it's not because the border would be of a certain length but because both sides figure it's better to stop fighting.

[@AfterTheIce-q4j]

@@cyberfunk3793 The criticism of the DMZ idea is that the proposed border is too long to secure properly. If a DMZ is put in place, peacekeepers would have to be scattered along the front.

[@Pooter-it4yg]

I was pointing out the cost of maintaining defence on the edge of any kind of neutral zone, whether fortified or not. South Korea can only sustain its side of the divide because the State Dept contributes hundreds of billions a year, and that demarcation line is a fraction of what's contemplated here. I do think there'll be some hiatus relatively soon, but it has to involve internationally backed security guarantees of some sort. Just declaring a "DMZ" and sending sandbags isn't going to work. I can see Kyiv ceding territory in Donetsk and Luhansk (insidiously infested for years anyway) as well as Crimea, but no more. I can also see them horse trading the Kursk gains for Moscow agreeing to some kind of international security involvement. I can also see them slugging on, and I wouldn't blame them if the will remains. There'll be a "Biden lag" of materiel and the rest of Europe isn't sitting on thumbs. As the first line of the Ukrainian anthem puts it: "we're not dead yet" (shche ne vmerla).

[@cyberfunk3793]

@@AfterTheIce-q4j The peacekeepers aren't going to be able to stop anything in any case. They are a more of symbolic gesture like we see now in Lebanon. Soon as something actually happens, they aren't able to do anything to stop it really.

[@AfterTheIce-q4j]

@@cyberfunk3793 Agreed.

[@paixetjustice]

I burst out laughing when I saw, at 0'17" the map of the famous DMZ which is in reality the map that NATO dreamed of seeing in 2023. In this map, the demilitarized zone would be in Russia, while it is supposed to separate Ukraine NATO from Ukraine conquered by the Russians And I stopped looking at that moment, because I don't dare imagine the rest.

[@andrewplowman1002]

I don’t think either participant is ready for a cease fire.

[@franks9432]

Zelenskyy and Putin were willing to make a deal, but Ukraine's foreign supporters forced him to back out.

[@bilic8094]

@@andrewplowman1002 The dmz will most likely end at the polish border

[@Finnishguy777]

@@franks9432 you are repeating literally a thousand times debunked dis information

[@VoltageLP]

zelenski would be thrown out of Ukraine if he even starts any kind of negotiation with russia, his ratings are close to zero as is ​@@franks9432

[@franks9432]

@@Finnishguy777 There is a lot of debunked misinformation, which has been proven true. Just as there are a lot of "truths" that have been proven to be false.

[@76ludlow]

There is of course one other notorious examnple of a DMZ, one that separated the two Vietnams in the 1960s and did nothing to prevent the continuation of a war of liberation, or prevent the total victory of North Vietnam or the total defeat and annexation of South Vietnam. Yes, Vietnam and Ukraine are not easily comparable, but not entirely dissimilar either. While North Vietnam attacked South Vietnam through Laos and Cambodia, Russia has a similar path through Belarus.

[@staschubige9006]

Don’t like the idea of an enemy unilaterally attacking a country, committing horrible war crimes and being rewarded with land. Ridiculous!

[@psaint60]

The border is far too long for a DMZ.

[@chrismitchell4622]

Ukraine working on the DMZ in Kursk!

[@richardcarrillo6164]

Dmz is absolutely absurd

[@JS-ti8ny]

Has the Russian SMO developed (as planned)…into an *intentional stalemate* …??? How can it not be at this point. The “frontline” literally has barely moved 175 km in 3 years.

[@theglobalgambit]

Basically. Russia controls same 20% as before

[@Radbot776]

lol that’s the issue Ukrainian and western media keep saying it’s a stalemate, even tho Russia makes gains every day. Ukrainian minister of defence said that if they don’t draft 160k men soon, they will have to surrender. Ukraine has mobilised over a million men since the beginning of the SMO, over 15 mobilisations, where are those guys? What about all those weapons sent, where is all that stuff? If it was a stalemate we wouldn’t see Russia taking settlements everyday. You keep mentioning a stalemate but that’s literally in all your wet dreams. The reality of all this is Russia is grinding away slowly moving along and the west just doesn’t want to acknowledge that their help has done nothing to Ukraine but help destroy it.

[@macromicromusic]

Great episode Pyotr. I’ve gotten a lot out of your conversations over the last year, but I wanted to add a vote of confidence for doing solo shows that first layout facts and wholistic interpretations of events, and then adding your own opinion at the end. I think you threaded the needle well

[@theglobalgambit]

@@macromicromusic ahh you’ve made my week. This right here is why l am doing it and I’m thrilled it brings you value

[@JesterEric]

The negotiations will be more along the lines of Vietnam. It's not a stalemate like Korea. One side is winning and if the war continues Ukraine will collapse without direct foreign intervention

[@andersgrassman6583]

To make Russia even consider a DMZ, something would have to be added in their intrest, apart from just cessation of active battle. If Trump, like you suggested, offered to lift some sanctions, I believe it would be considered almost treasonous by Europe, Canada and Australia. I don't think the Japanese and Taiwan would feel OK about it either. Ukraine would need to be heavily bolstered militarily, in lieu of any willing and mutually acceptable 3rd party buffer troops. But, if Ukraine receives a lot more military aid, then why not push on, as long as the Ukranian's are willing?! And given more support, I find it highly unlikely they would agree to stop fighting. You say Europe doesn't have much money. Well, I disagree. It's more a question of political will. I think a likely developement could be that the US agrees to sell arms to European countries, that then donate them to Ukraine. Trump can then brag about the Europeans paying / picking up the bill, now that the stubborn Europeans just anyway won't end their war. Trump's supporters don't really care about the war, so this kind of half-messed sollution, can still be sold as some kind of success by Trump, who then moves on to other matters.

[@AfterTheIce-q4j]

Trump supporters do care about the war. They want the US to stop supporting the conflict for financial reasons, and your suggestion would resolve that concern. But they also see the war as potentially escalating into a conflict between nations armed with nuclear weapons. That would pose a threat to the US. Continuing to ship armaments into the war zone, even if paid for by Europe, would not resolve the second concern. Trump wants the war to stop.

[@psj68]

Nato is dead if Usa drop all support to Ukraine and not defending a Nato country being attacked because there is no unity. European countries could join forces with Ukraine and force Russia out. Yes, Putin could escalate and drop nuclear weapons but he will not win as European countries also have nuclear weapons. Putin is not stupid and only respect strong men. If Europe waits until Putin attack after some years when the army has been rebuilt then it would be harder to defeat him. Hit him when he is worn out. This will also send a strong message to Trump. Putin is the only winner if NATO dissolve and Ukraine is left to it self.

[@psj68]

@BobSmith-k2q It is highly likely that Trump is going to broker a deal with Ukraine and Russia without involving the rest of Nato so why would europe not keep supporting Ukraine and even escalate the war? It is European security and they need to make a stance at some point or perish. Besides a nuclear war is highly unlikely. Putin would have used nuclear weapons way earlier. He knows that nobody wins a nuclear war.

[@yollon2550]

Exactly!

[@yollon2550]

Trump could threaten to end Russia economically by flooding the oil market and let the oil price sink to levels that would be devastating to Russia s economy. He will also not be the loser, so if Putin diagrees he could give Ukraine what it needs on the battlefield. And Ukraine can still disagree about a deal and could at least technically defeat Russia with the help of Europe. IF Europe would act in its own security interests..

[@JaxWylds]

Crimea in exchange for membership in NATO... Would Ukranians go for it?

[@bilic8094]

@@JaxWylds Russia won't give back an inch of territory forget it it's gone.

[@TKUA11]

Even if they do, the war won’t end. Putin has made it very clear that Ukraine isn’t a real country and that all of it should be part of Russia. Look at Belarus Georgia etc, trump didn’t stop with the small chunks. He wants all of Ukraine by hook or by crook

[@borjejohansson6805]

Croatian model from 1995. The Balkan war in 1991 was anyway an in vitro test of the collapse of the CCCP republican system. Therefore, it is to be expected that for conflicts limited to this geographical area, adapted solutions from the restoration of the dissolution of the Yugoslav Federation will be applied.

[@ColinWilkinson-p2y]

Poland should reconvene the Warsaw Pact but this time pointed East. No NATO should make Putin happy.

[@malindafrank.028]

🇺🇦💪💪💪💪💪💪🇺🇦

[@ChristianKunzer]

dictatorship stays a dictatorship. talking about peace have been always a weakness in the eyes of dictators. Talking about peace did not destroy the iron curtain and it did not stop hitlers action in 1938. The situation in Ukraine is the result of letting stalutin do what ever he want. It was not talking that Russia was going out of Afganistan.

[@andrewplowman1002]

Well argued

[@neil81812]

In my own view, for what that's worth, Ukraine should avoid any commitment to formally cede sovereign territory to Russia. There are two possible scenarios here: 1. Either a DMZ which would, over time, allow the Nato bloc and the Russian bloc to argue that 'our Ukraine is better than your Ukraine'. A DMZ denies a formal transfer. An alternative scenario is 2 to allow for a situation where the occupied territories are described in international law as being under Russian 'administration'. Western maps of Germany Post WWII and pre-1970 tended to display Germany's Versailles borders after the war, but with a dotted line at the Oder Neisse line describing territories to the east as being under Polish administration and East Prussia being under Polish and Russian administration. This situation formally came to an end in 1972 when West Germany accepted the modern German border in the Treaty of Warsaw, confirmed in 1990. Either scenario holds out the possibility of Ukrainian retaking its wild fields at some point in the future. However this matter is moot. Putin has no intention of being a puppet on Trump's string while he has the upper hand in the Donbas and is moving forward. Trump will not solve this war in 24 hours. There are already signs of impending political chaos in the US with the nomination process and attempts to get tarriff legislation through the Congress is going to suck all the energy out of early Trump 2.0

[@impossibleisjustanopinion9898]

They don't have men. I don't see it possible to get everything back. Maybe 10 years Ukr can build a real military. We need more time to get ready aswell. Thanks 🇵🇱

[@rogerc6533]

Fight Russia again just to lose again? What's the bloody point. Russia isn't even the Soviet Union anymore. Forced communism for the world hasn't been their goal for decades. If anything they are reviving all their traditions the Soviets oppressed.

[@Moonuuu]

American people will not pay tax for Ukraine.

[@Radbot776]

Yea it will except what America does is send old used weapons and in return tax payers are paying for brand new weapons here for the US army. Once Trump sees this business and he does, there’s no way he will end this war. He’s going to send even greater packages than Biden did, but the only catch is now Russia has built an immunity towards most of those weapons, plus since they came in low numbers it didn’t do anything but strengthen the Russian army. This war will end in Kiev signing a surrender.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Perhaps the EU can finally get it a unified-EU army together for a peacekeeping mission of holding the DMZ. That suits the needs of EU which wants a unified armed forces but not a conflict Rus which wants a freeze plus some time to buy Europe USA which wants to exit the conflict, stop rus advance into Europe and get on with rebuilding American

[@shremich4583]

the Eurocorps exists since 1992 every European country is sovereign und has its own military and decides on its own what and how to use it

[@AfterTheIce-q4j]

Russia wouldn't accept that. The peacekeeping force would have to be from UN attached neutral countries.

[@ranaldhooper5997]

If there is to be a DMZ, it MUST BE IN RUSSIA!

[@markheithaus]

It should be, but I think now the most important thing is security guarantees, and possibly Western peacekeepers defending wherever a dmz ends up being. Ukraine doesn't just need "peace", but security.

[@Finnishguy777]

@@markheithaus Do you mean the same kind of security guarantees that Ukraine already got once and which every country that promised them broke, tell me one reasonable reason why Ukraine would agree to the same bullshit again? it has already become very clear recently that the only Ukrainian supporters who are continuing to support despite the decisions of other countries can be found in Eastern and Northern Europe, all others promise the moon and stars from the sky but deliver literally 10% of their promises

[@VoltageLP]

where else would it be? that picture at the beginning does show it on the russian side of the border

[@markheithaus]

@VoltageLP along the current lines of contact

[@VoltageLP]

@@markheithaus what's the point of that DMZ? Millions of people would have their homes on the other side of the line. I have friends, relatives and a summer cottage on the other side as well, should we just abandon all that to the russians? Absurd

[@ViharS]

Ukraine Got Played By West Like Pawn! Oops Zelyenski is a 🤡 😂😂😂 I'm glad India Was Neutral Already 🗿

[@DouglasPorter-s5c]

No trump deal no thanks

[@ebadd3468]

I don't think Ukraine has a choice either take Trump's proposal or funding stops.

[@theglobalgambit]

How likely is a DMZ? Drop a comment and see how closely we agree or not.

[@careyfreeman5056]

It's always been this. Too bad we didn't just put it in place 2 years ago. Also, we'll see if he gives up the farm to Putin. Trump is going to want to come out of this seen as the winner. Not Putin. Not Zelensky. TRUMP the winner. Thus, he's fully going to expect both to bend the knee.

[@irongron]

Well this DMZ nonsense is fine if your own home won't fall within it (like the Trump people proposing it). What will happen to my home in Pokrovsk, it's so close to the front line now it may fall with in this "DMZ". Do my wife & I and the 65,000 other residents of Pokrovsk get to go home ? Will Pokrovsk fall within out outside of the "DMZ" ? maybe Trump should swap homes with my wife and I and then eh can "DMZ" his home out of existence. How deep will this "DMZ" be ? That is the main question. My wife had a flat she lost in Makiivka (now in the so-called DNR), what happens with that, does Putin get that for free ?

[@irongron]

2 comments shadow banned, mine and another persons. You can only see them if you sort by "Newest first". 😥(then you will see 3 replies)

[@careyfreeman5056]

@@irongron Ask the Koreans who went through this 70 years ago? I get it. But there doesn't appear to be a real victory in sight for either side. Not sure what the alternative ever was since "total victory" appears to be off the table for both sides.

[@AfterTheIce-q4j]

I think that some form of a DMZ is the most likely short term result. Trump sees Ukraine as well within Russia's sphere of influence. And he sees the long term resolution of the war as a European problem. Politically, he can't be seen as Putin's butt boy but beyond that, he really doesn't care. Trump can offer Putin a reduction or elimination of sanctions as an incentive to play nice in the short term. As of Ukraine, most military and financial aid will stop in January.

[@smashandrews3493]

Being president of the United States is enough !!!

[@aghassimkrtchyan6323]

Russia will agree to a demilitarized eastern Ukraine, east of river Dniepr, given that it keeps full control of currently occupied territories. Anything less than that would not work for Russia. In return it will agree to the western Ukraine, west from the river, joining EU and even NATO

[@Whitebarberian]

Great analysis, but I doubt Russia would agree because they want full control of the Black Sea as well access to tranistria

[@AfterTheIce-q4j]

Russia won't agree to Ukraine joining NATO. Period.

[@aghassimkrtchyan6323]

@ i think they know it would not be possible. There is a price to pay for drawing the effective border along dniepr river that gives Russia a strong sense of security. And that price includes forgetting Odessa and Transdniestr. 90 percent of the Russians will consider that a victory commensurate with the heavy price that they paid.

[@Whitebarberian]

@@aghassimkrtchyan6323, your a top thinker… I guess I am approaching this with emotions… but a deal like would work. But, just to know would you be happy with such a deal and knowing NATO is in the West of the country if you were Putin? I personally would have to have a follow up plan to keep Ukraine unstable… up until I remilitarise for a Ukraine-Russo 2.0 which is to take the remainder of Ukraine as well as Moldova.

[@aghassimkrtchyan6323]

@ thanks for your kind words. Putin already has Baltic countries in NATO and plus Finland. But what you are saying is very important and it is a reminder that there can’t be solution to this crisis without Russia and NATO reaching an agreement on the boundaries of deployment of US missiles in Europe. That was part of the ultimatum of December 2021 that Russia issued. IMHO Russia will agree to western Ukraine becoming a NATO member if NATO commits to being only a defensive treaty, not offensive, meaning that no deployment of missiles beyond the boundaries of 1997.

[@pluribus_unum]

The DMZ isn't in Russian territory, now is it?

[@diakritika]

It should be if Trump is serious.

[@pluribus_unum]

@diakritika Exactly. The Kremlin handed this plan to him, clearly.

[@smashandrews3493]

The DMV in Korea has worked for a long fucking time ! It’s not like we won’t have a strong military force at the border to protect Ukraine ! You left out the part about having European and US military stationed in Ukraine to protect the country .

[@Whitebarberian]

Never going to happen….

[@AfterTheIce-q4j]

Yes, that was left out because Russia would not agree to that. They will just keep fighting.

[@tomvanmeurs430]

First Ceasefire followed by general elections in both parts of Ukraine. 2 Depending on outcome implementation of the deliberately failed Minsk 1 and 2 agreements giving east Russian speaking people some self autonomy. 3. Remainder of Ukraine depending on results of the elections neutralised and denazified. Russian security having priority.

[@cyberfunk3793]

Playing time could be an option because there is non zero chance that Putin's successor isn't as nuts as he is. But if there is a frozen conflict like between the Koreas, we would need to a) Never agree to Crimea or any other captured territory being officially part of ru b) Keep the sanctions on as long as all the territory is returned. Ru might collapse at some point like CCCP did, that would be a good opportunity to take back territory also. I think sooner or later Ukraine will get its lands back if we play our cards right. Does it happen soon or after decades like with the Baltics is an open question and only Ukraine can really decide when to actively fight for it is not worth it currently anymore.

[@oivapasma9052]

How is it possible that about 14 000 000 easten ukreinians whose native language is russia can be forced not to speak own native language?

[@cyberfunk3793]

​@@oivapasma9052 It's not possible because it only exists in the imagination of ru liars. People in those areas have self decided to switch language however after the ru war criminals invaded their country. "Enemy tongue: eastern Ukrainians reject their Russian birth language"

[@branilavvasic9727]

@@cyberfunk3793 they reject the ''enemy tongue'' only exists in your head.

[@cyberfunk3793]

@@branilavvasic9727 "Ukrainians who grew up speaking Russian learn a new mother tongue. For many, switching from Russian to the Ukrainian language is an act of resistance as the war continues to devastate lives and cities."

[@RichardLoomis-k7x]

We all already knew es how Trump is going say he ended to WAR…🕺🏻🌬️

[@dylankroll]

Trump kicked his whole first term down the road

[@vdotme]

3:19 "of which you can argue immigration is one (main foreign policy issues)"? The wall is the foundation of MAGA. Mexico & Chinese investment is also hot on his radar.

[@ebadd3468]

I like turtles

[@theglobalgambit]

@@ebadd3468 me too. Beautiful graceful creatures 🐢

[@branilavvasic9727]

@@theglobalgambit Finally something we can agree on.

[@libshastra]

Your discord invite has expired.

[@diakritika]

The DMZ has to be corrected to also include Belarus, Transnistria, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia.

[@PamelaValemont]

Russia has won. Ukraine capitulates. End of story.

[@davidmallia628]

The solution is simple, albeit requiring sincerity. Russia should go back to its borders, including 2014 conquest of crimea, which is sovereign Ukranian territory. Ukrainne military should exit all Russian territories it is occupying. All of Ukraine should be proclaimed, and designated, a buffer zone void of any NATO alliance.This should be enough to please the grievances of all concerned. Who ever finds such agreement insuffient, simply has imperialistic, malvalent, ambitions. Any seperatists can always be relocated to their respective countries, if they love their tespective countries so much. Russian land mass is huge, and Ukraine sovereign territory must be respected.

[@bilic8094]

@@davidmallia628 You honestly think Russia cares about the term sovereignty remember what the west did with so called kosovo ?

[@davidmallia628]

@bilic8094 As I said, they claim to care, but betrayal is the norm, not exclusive to dictators, but even those politicians that work within democratic framework. And the honest people, well they are taken for a ride.

[@Babaghanoush77]

Unfortunately you totally left out the cia nato and state departments meddling within Ukraine for quite a number of years which was totally unhelpful and mainly preoccupied with allowing access to western investors. We actively percipitated revolutions in Ukraine for goodness sake and even went against regimes which were not pro russian but weren't in our pockets

[@theglobalgambit]

this video is about the future - the past and your repetitive bs talking points aren't relevant

[@Babaghanoush77]

@theglobalgambit I think it is relevant as there are two bad faith actors involved with this the russian regime and the western neo Marxist wef neo colonialist western nato alliance. And unbelievable numbers of Ukrainians have died and maltreated and loads of Russian servicemen have died. The putin regime doesn't care how many russians or Ukrainians die and the west doesn't give a toss how many Ukrainians they send to their deaths either. This isn't going to be fixed with two such bad actors involved and those poor peo people over there are paying with their lives because of it. So yeah it's kind of relevant I would say.

[@branilavvasic9727]

@@theglobalgambit I actually think that your bs talking points aren't relevant and his are very much relevant.

[@hillsideballers8223]

Yea its stupid because all the Russians that have died and ukraine the mothers would've be mad asf

[@paulchambers3142]

You're British...its not a DM "zee". Pronounce it properly "zed".

[@willc1294]

far more people worldwide speak american English rather than the archaic from of English, which is only spoken in GB

[@azamnamaky2529]

He wants money. Your money.

[@WorkingProleinc]

There will be no DMZ,winner Take it all

[@bilic8094]

Trump jr went nuclear on zelensky yesterday telling him no allowance in 38 days.

[@drscopeify]

But Trump does not take office in 38 days its like 65 days or whatever. Jr is a very very strange cat.

[@lynnfulton3002]

When does Trump Juniors allowance end, when he gets a job, or will he always get by on shouting his mouth of and daddy's moneym

[@franks9432]

All issues must be addressed, in order to solve this issue. The problem began in 2013 when Russia pressured Ukraine into accepting an economic deal. This escalated when the US supported the overthrow of the democratically elected, mostly Russia-friendly Ukraine government. Also, the US promised Russia that Ukraine would never become a member of NATO. Biden supported NATO membership for Ukraine.

[@ThePettho]

Just because Putin states exactly the same facts as you are stating doesn’t make them true. You have the Russian version, this started long before that when Russia initially colonized Ukraine. Russia wants to control most of Eastern Europe, including Ukraine as colonies. Sadly that control brings poverty, corruption, occupation and criminality to the subjugated peoples. We who live close to Russia don’t want to be ruled by Russia.

[@VoltageLP]

There was no overthrow, dude literally started shooting people in the center of the capital then got into a helicopter and landed on a russian warship ..

[@franks9432]

@@VoltageLP I'm not defending Russia. I'm casting justifiable blame on the US. Instead of working to defuse an issue, we worked to inflame it.

[@pluribus_unum]

It works for Trump's handler, that famous ex-KGB bureaucrat we speak of so often.

[@iart2838]

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[@theglobalgambit]

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[@branilavvasic9727]

@@theglobalgambit Z

[@christinaphillips5933]

Leave Americans out of this war of actors 😢 no more money for Ukraine !! 😢

[@annakingry9157]

That's your bright idea? Quit supporting democracy?

[@ElCampiador]

@@annakingry9157 Nothing to do with democracy, you are sucking up the globalists lies, dig deeper into why Russia did what it did starting with the CIA.

[@robisverybad75]

@@annakingry9157 lol, democracy. that is funny thanks

[@robisverybad75]

@@annakingry9157 sweet summer child

[@Toronto-Brad]

​@annakingry9157 CIA coup overthrew the democratic govt in Ukraine. Did you forget?

[@smashandrews3493]

Did you say there isn’t much money Europe to pay for Ukraines defense ? 😂😂😂

[@ShikharRawat-ft6yd]

Lol now Ukraine half will go to Russia and half to us companies such a waste of western taxpayers money😂😂😂😂😂😂