How effective is Adaptation? | Warframe

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TheKengineer

TheKengineer

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Unlocked in the later stages of Warframe, Adaptation (earned from Arbitrations) is a powerful defensive mod. But let's clear something up - it's NOT a 90% damage resistance mod. Most of the time it's far far weaker than that. Let me show you how much and why.
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@NeuralSensei
@NeuralSensei Жыл бұрын
This is a perrfect example why we need to see the damage ratios of enemies in the codex and maybe scanner.
@101survivalist
@101survivalist Жыл бұрын
As a rule you can just look at the weapon stats the enemies is using. E.g. look at the stats of Dera, Hespar, Machete, or whatever your fighting is using.
@NeuralSensei
@NeuralSensei Жыл бұрын
@@101survivalist those can be very different as well. I dont think anyone benefits when so much is hidden. I don'r want to display the base level damage, as is can be really tiny on some weapons, but just the ratio and types of damage for each unit, this should be something revealed along the base stats when you start scanning them.
@grannps
@grannps Жыл бұрын
@@101survivalist he shows the problem with this line of thinking about 5 minutes in-despite often using the same weapon, different versions of an enemy model do different amounts of damage and at different ratios. Regular, arid, and drakkar versions are all shown to vary in this way
@FerunaLutelou
@FerunaLutelou Жыл бұрын
@@101survivalist enemy weapons are not the same as the ones we can use, they have different damage type ratios. Also, variants of the same enemy types use different variants of the weapons. Also-also, this isn't really relevant, but turning enemies into allies affects the damage of the affected units. For example, Napalm normally has 100% status chance, so their shots always proc heat, but when under your control they don't do that.
@outrider8569
@outrider8569 Жыл бұрын
​@@grannps yep and frontier and elite
@HCivicFg2
@HCivicFg2 Жыл бұрын
PSA: if your damage mitigation comes from evasion (Xaku, Titania) adaptation is near useless.
@dengar96
@dengar96 Жыл бұрын
But on something like nezha with warding halo adaptation becomes insanely strong. You start with 90% damage reduction before adaptation kicks, it's like a free efficiency mod since your halo takes less damage too.
@hokorikera
@hokorikera Жыл бұрын
Aerodynamic, Aviator, and Adaptation on Titania is the norm Who tf plays Titania for her miniscule evasion? Something tells me you either don't play Titania, or don't play her very well
@sulevjaaniste5394
@sulevjaaniste5394 Жыл бұрын
@@hokorikera you slightly contradict with your own statement. Playing well would mean you'd barely need any survivability mods so idk, I've played my fair share of her and I actually do prefer other mods in these slots since the evasion in razorwing is more than enough to survive.
@ToniFalck
@ToniFalck Жыл бұрын
@@hokorikera miniscule? isn't it like 50% that's 50% that the enemies dont hit you
@hokorikera
@hokorikera Жыл бұрын
@@ToniFalck 50% against shotgun units doesn't mean much, lol
@angeryboye
@angeryboye Жыл бұрын
The different damage spread on enemy variants may be due to enemies using different weapons according to their variant, for instance, most grineer lancers use the Hind, but Drekar lancers seem to be using the Harpak, so a way to geta bearing on what damage type a certain enemy will do, you could check what weapon they use and see its damage spread from there
@FerunaLutelou
@FerunaLutelou Жыл бұрын
That's not the case. Even when variant enemies use the same weapon (for example, Gorgon) they still have different damage distribution.
@Assassinwar
@Assassinwar Жыл бұрын
Baruuk + adaptation + his abilities = "I'm f ing invincible!!!"
@jeptoungrit9000
@jeptoungrit9000 Жыл бұрын
We need a video on shock absorbers and how it interacts with adaption.
@TheKengineer
@TheKengineer Жыл бұрын
I cover stacking damage reduction sources in my broader guide on the topic kzbin.info/www/bejne/oICpc6t7Zc2fpcU
@FabulaNovaCristal
@FabulaNovaCristal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another explanation video, that makes "Learning Warframe" actually fun and comprehensible! :3 And happy Valentines Day!
@FlashKillerX
@FlashKillerX Жыл бұрын
General rule of thumb I use is adaptation + (umbral/archon/normal) vitality is generally gonna be really good for survivability. It’s not 100% foolproof on its own without any other healing or damage mitigation but it is really solid
@sonohanabira9703
@sonohanabira9703 Жыл бұрын
I've been using adaptation mod for some time, but eventually switched to rolling guard. I basically can't live without it now.
@princesscadance197
@princesscadance197 Жыл бұрын
I use Adaptation, Rolling Guard, and a subsumed Wukong Defy on my Limbo for maximum survivability.
@Endymion0021
@Endymion0021 Жыл бұрын
Adaptation feels like a neat mod, but that close to always fails to work correctly in my gameplay experience, since taking weak hits from enemies to stack it up to survive the heavy hitters happens rarely, most squads run a ton of cc or simply nuke the fodder. So that the few heavy troopers or the eximus that hang on a little longer damage your squad unmitigated, downing unstacked mates or the arson burn, toxin cloud takes them out since elementals are rare damage types on the small fry.
@lerosallyn9279
@lerosallyn9279 Жыл бұрын
Adaptation is that complimentary type of mod. Useless on weaker frames (Rolling Guard and shield gating or Vazarin protective sling are SO much better) because of the situation above, but with an already tanky frame it is what brings you to near invincibility. Example: Nidus with maxed Parasitic Link, Full Umbra Set and Adaptation with Arcane Grace is basically a damage sponge (up to lvl 500ish, I dont ever go close or beyond that usually) indefinitely OR Adaptation on Baruuk is what makes him near immortal so you can have super high range without worrying if your 3 stacks run out too quick, considering how 7 of them with adaptation is enough for the full steel path star chart It’s description makes it seem like a strong standalone mod but it’s really just a compliment for tank builds to rly let you make too many mistakes (like not checking if you’re close to death sometimes 💀)
@LeeLonnieLove
@LeeLonnieLove Жыл бұрын
Its fine in the midgame i guess. Lategame its really only for tanks rolling guard is way better on the majority of frames.
@FerunaLutelou
@FerunaLutelou Жыл бұрын
Adaptation is mostly for solo play. Idk if that was intentional or not, but that's how it is. When you play solo, you are the only target, so you WILL get hit.
@FerunaLutelou
@FerunaLutelou Жыл бұрын
@@LeeLonnieLove rolling guard is so overrated. As long as you play a frame that can avoid damage entirely (Xaku, Zephyr, Rvenant, etc.) the main use of rolling guard will be to get rid of status procs. It is useful a must have for long endurance and level cap runs, but only few people do those cuz most don't have the time or energy for it.
@CollateralKaos
@CollateralKaos Жыл бұрын
@user-cm6cv3ri1w it isn't overrated in the slightest. While yes on frames that avoid damage entirely it can be practically useless, the same could be said for literally ANY mod for survivability. Rolling guard is the thing that makes a difference at all the worst moments however. Knowing how and when to use it can make the difference between violence deleting you because you got all your abilities shut off, or that eximus aura knocking you on your ass because they got through your protections. Just because certain frames don't need it does *NOT* mean it is overrated.
@stupidlizard4764
@stupidlizard4764 Жыл бұрын
Shortly: if you want maximum damage resistance you need to DIVE into a big group of different enemies while you have greater regen of shields or health. Either way you will die or you will become stronger. Or you can flop something in your warframe that grants you damage resistance in general + adaptation and become a tank
@xblackxabyssx1983
@xblackxabyssx1983 Жыл бұрын
i pop hysteria jump in build stacks then go back to my regular melee that does more dmg then valks claws while at full dr and if shit starts to hurt just pop back into hysteria
@rahmounimohamed9632
@rahmounimohamed9632 Жыл бұрын
you're one of very very few youtubers i put a like on videos before actually seeing it ! awesome content.
@raptordoesyoutube107
@raptordoesyoutube107 Жыл бұрын
If I had one slot on my warframe left and had to choose adaptation or rolling guard I’d pick the latter. Both are good but rolling guard is more consistent
@SmoothTurtle840
@SmoothTurtle840 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but Rolling Guard is kinda lame. It feels cheesy.
@pedrosantos2065
@pedrosantos2065 Жыл бұрын
You know what also feels cheesy? Being one shot by a toxin or slash or heat proc, wich rolling guard helps to prevent
@leachblah6313
@leachblah6313 Жыл бұрын
Use rolling guard if hp is under 1000-1500, use Adaptation if the hp exceed 1500.
@SmoothTurtle840
@SmoothTurtle840 Жыл бұрын
@@pedrosantos2065 Just be a tankier frame then. Squishy frames are supposed to be squishy, I think people tend to forget that.
@Joe90h
@Joe90h Жыл бұрын
@@SmoothTurtle840 Utterly bizarre take. People have found a way to use frames in a way where they can safely avoid damage, but your advice is to play tanks because "they're supposed to survive longer"?
@eyywannn8601
@eyywannn8601 Жыл бұрын
5:56 I know it doesn’t explain all of them but for the Elite Lancers, if I recall, Drekars use the Harpak which has different stats to Hind.
@Journey22405
@Journey22405 Жыл бұрын
Even after all this, adaptation and the status immunity of voruna is still insanely broken.
@turkeykent3719
@turkeykent3719 Жыл бұрын
Adaptation + health conversion + equilibrium + quick thinking bam done extremely tanky voruna
@Journey22405
@Journey22405 Жыл бұрын
@@turkeykent3719 i dont even have quick thinking, i have so much health and armour that its not nessessary. the regen you get is so insane too that just having a bit of range and duration and you can quite literally solo tank almost any tileset steel path included. just struggles against bosses which is why she isnt S tier but she is damn close.
@Benzinilinguine
@Benzinilinguine Жыл бұрын
@@Journey22405 >struggles against bosses Which bosses? Just curious. She quickly became my new favorite for Exploiter. I am genuinely struggling to think of a boss she wouldn't be decent if not excellent for. Definitely Eidolon but...that's all I can come up with. I generally run a frame with Gloom on most boss missions, as they are rarely if ever immune to it.
@Journey22405
@Journey22405 Жыл бұрын
@@Benzinilinguine more the fact that any of her abilities are dog shit against single target, sure immunity is nice but if you want that there are other better frames. She is the queen of killing large numbers of shit mobs but single targets she is horrific. Her abilities need too many things to sustain her, energy from her 3 and the status effects from her 1 all need to be constantly in use for her to be the most effective. Bosses dont let her do that, other frames shit on her for single target dps. Shes like saryn in that aspect, horrific against single target, queen against hoards of shitters.
@Lord_Phoenix95
@Lord_Phoenix95 Жыл бұрын
​@@turkeykent3719 add Arcane Blessing and you are basically a better Health Tank than Inaros. Poor Inaros needs a good old buff.
@austingarrett3334
@austingarrett3334 Жыл бұрын
It really boils down to min-maxing your frames. Any that have a lot of health and armor you should use adaptation. And frame that that forgoes defense in favor of offense use rolling guard and something to reset shields.
@rickybobby5153
@rickybobby5153 11 ай бұрын
What constitutes “a lot of armor”? I’m wondering if I should use this on Excalibur umbra with his umbral mods. The health and shields aren’t high enough but he has almost 700 armor
@austingarrett3334
@austingarrett3334 11 ай бұрын
@@rickybobby5153 it kinda comes down to preference on that one, but since he comes with the umbral polarities already it's generally accepted to use the umbral mods. Like, you COULD outfit him to survive via shield gating and rolling guard but it would be a lot of work for not a lot of payoff. But it's your frame at the end of the day, do what you like with it.
@MartinGreywolf
@MartinGreywolf Жыл бұрын
A somewhat important downside to Adaptation is that the weakness to low RoF-high damage attacks can be encountered because of other frames. Example 1, a Nova in your party will make everything so slow that it will not hit you, and the one eximus that rocks up to you will be a problem. Example 2, Titania can give you evasion buffs. If the enemy numbers are low enough or you are decent at dodging fire through movement, you could well end loosing stacks. Mind you, this is usually an issue only because of eximus units, the rest of the time a CC lockdown will mean no damage to you anyway.
@spamandsazon
@spamandsazon Жыл бұрын
You're my fave WF YTer now and the only one I sub to.
@DrFunkman
@DrFunkman Жыл бұрын
Inaros with Adaptation, fully ranked Umbra mods to increase armor, ability strength, and health, a full Scarab Armor with the mod to negate status effects with it active, and Sevagoth’s Gloom ability lets you easily tank any swarm of enemies
@StokerGamer
@StokerGamer Жыл бұрын
Sevagoths bloons being the main culprit lol
@xornedge8204
@xornedge8204 8 ай бұрын
“Nah, I’d Adapt.”
@StudMuffin07
@StudMuffin07 5 ай бұрын
Highly underrated comment 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
@IRMentat
@IRMentat Жыл бұрын
as someone cursed and abused by RNGesus for a long time i can say i very much notice when some of my build s are not supported by adaptation. shield-gating may be the current fad but out of preservation of my own sanity and a general dislike of adhering purely to the one build to rule them all having frapes i can pick and choose just based on tank type (if any) as much as mission or opponent advantages is rather nice.
@TheRealMichelozzo
@TheRealMichelozzo Жыл бұрын
This is a mod for solo players - as the sole focus of enemy attention you are taking all the damage, thus the mod prevents the most damage. Naturally because of this I use it a lot
@lorenzamccoy7512
@lorenzamccoy7512 Жыл бұрын
It works great on Styanax since his third ability raises his threat level
@TheRealMichelozzo
@TheRealMichelozzo Жыл бұрын
@@lorenzamccoy7512 also true
@thomasstewart1380
@thomasstewart1380 Жыл бұрын
I threw adaptation on my 2700 Armor Valkyr Prime build that uses Rage, Hunter's Adrenaline, Quick Thinking, and Molt Reconstruct to spam fire blast non stop. Even if it isnt a true 90% DR mod the way it stacks onto an existing true 90% DR, like my Armor in this example, can be felt immediately once it stacks. And thats good enough for me.
@555Soupy555
@555Soupy555 Жыл бұрын
Were you ever a teacher? You have an absolute gift for it!
@sanguin3
@sanguin3 Жыл бұрын
He seems to have the skills of a Data Analyst imo.
@damearstor2120
@damearstor2120 Жыл бұрын
@@sanguin3 can be both a teacher *and* a data analyst
@electricnick260
@electricnick260 Жыл бұрын
I've personally always preferred rolling guard over adaptation because with the way I play, rolling guard has always been more reliable for me to use. Meanwhile a friend of mine struggles to use rolling guard, yet does great with adaptation. It's one of those situations where it really shows just how differently two people can play Warframe and still be successful. Me and my friends can use nearly the exact same builds in completely different ways and do just as well as each other with little to no issues. Where my friends would use adaptation, I use rolling guard.
@alexanderson4497
@alexanderson4497 Жыл бұрын
I roll with my bullet jumping, so for me Rolling Guard is unreliable not because the mod is bad but because my muscle memory has been set in stone in the years I've played the game to incorporate rolling into my movement. SO it triggers Rolling Guard when I don't need it to leaving it unavailable for when I do, It's an issue with me not the mod though.
@mohammadsyahbanu4937
@mohammadsyahbanu4937 Жыл бұрын
Same i also use rolling often in movement because of muscle memory. But if my muscle memory can be resetted i'll choose rolling guard for sure
@Lord_Phoenix95
@Lord_Phoenix95 Жыл бұрын
Yup. I also generally roll. When playing Wisp and Hildryn their "Roll" is just a "dodge" which kinda makes it feel like rolling helps out with movement.
@edschramm6757
@edschramm6757 Жыл бұрын
i'll be in the corner not using either 95% of the time. the only frame i have with either equipped is Mesa, which uses Rolling guard next to Mesa's Waltz. having said that, half the time i'm playing valkyr so... i'll press 4 and be on my way
@rickdiculous2477
@rickdiculous2477 Жыл бұрын
I'm with your friend. I use rolling constantly, so RG is almost always on cooldown whenever I need it, cause I rolled to reposition earlier...
@maninhu9837
@maninhu9837 Жыл бұрын
Slap this in a Nheza and watch as senator armstrong is born in warframe
@stardust-rebel
@stardust-rebel Жыл бұрын
This is why I tell starchildren to invest in armor, health and healing. Only in long endurance is the frantic shield gate technique required. If you are using an armor boost and shard, a high health total and have at least one form of healing, Adaptation will take you far.
@AtomicEy
@AtomicEy Жыл бұрын
old Trinity 99% bless players: *Back* in *my* day
@bounty446
@bounty446 Жыл бұрын
What a great job you do keep up the GREAT work .....Thank you sir
@securatyyy
@securatyyy Жыл бұрын
When that lvl 200 bombard comes around the corner with blast damage.
@ShadonicX7543
@ShadonicX7543 Жыл бұрын
As someone who hasn't really ever actually used Rolling Guard, can someone explain to me the general workflow of using it to survive? I never used it because I figured it's only for shield gating which i figured needs Energize, and I didn't have it until recently. Do you really just dragon key + cast an ability to fully reset your gate with brief respite and useRolling Guard only used to clear status / give you a..brief respite? What do you guys do if you run out of energy? Or do you guys spam pizzas then? Shield gating has always seemed like an extremely tedious and cheesy way to play, though i understand that it's unfortunately the only way to play squishier frames in high level content. I'm just trying to wrap my head around how that'd look. Especially on frames that rely on casting. Where does that energy to cast every 2 seconds come from? Just seems a bit crazy to me 🤔
@kirinashia567
@kirinashia567 Жыл бұрын
Spoilers in part of this, but you should probably already know what I'm talking about by the time you're doing shield gating or adaptation: I don't even use brief respite for my own shield gating builds, though I imagine others do for simplicity. For me, I just rolling guard and "operator" mode. Notably, there's a frequent bug that reapplies dragon key if you enter operator mode, so the shield value can drop even lower, and thus get the gate up quite fast. Shields recharge at 15+ (5% of your max shields) per second once they start recharging. This usually means if you can avoid damage for just a couple more seconds after rolling guard, it's back as soon as it starts the recharge. Alternatively for just some ease of use information, besides brief respite, you could run "Augur" mods which have a similar effect. "Guardian" on a companion can also give you a full reset every 30 seconds, Raksa Kubrows can "Protect" for 300 shield every 5 seconds, Taxon can "Molecular Conversion" every 12 seconds..ish? for 200 shields. Also very notably, Hildryn and Protea (and their teammates) have access to 3 second long shield gates, rather than 1.3 second long. There's even more options and tips about it than I've written here, but hopefully that helped a little?
@ShadonicX7543
@ShadonicX7543 Жыл бұрын
@@kirinashia567 that is helpful - i need to look into that operator bug you mentioned. I suppose then Rolling Guard can be used (if you aren't worried about status at the moment) to kinda extend your shield gate as well. My main point is that if you literally have to cast abilities every 1.3-3 seconds as you take damage, don't you just run out of energy immediately? That's what I'm moreso caught up on really. And I'm fully aware of all the nifty ways of getting extra energy but most of them seem risky in various ways - including having to be among huge stacks of enemies to get a source of energy, which means moving less and being shot more, which means you need to use more energy to continuously reset shield gate...while getting the energy to reset the shield gate to begin with.
@kirinashia567
@kirinashia567 Жыл бұрын
@@ShadonicX7543 To clarify for your point: Absolutely, using abilities to top your shields back up again via augur or respite is a thing many players are doing to shield gate, but it's actually not necessary, technically. The way I was doing it was purely invulning out the time, because once your shields are full, regardless of automatic recharge or forced manual recharge, you get your 1.3-3 second gate back! So to give an example, I lose my shields, shield gate procs for 1.3 seconds, I rolling guard at the end, I get another 3 seconds, shield recharge will start, I operator mode for just a brief time (idk exactly how long, but
@Steelermill
@Steelermill Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about this mod, I have it. I can't believe how u made a 10+ video of just one mod. That's amazing. Still a little confused. MR10,so I'm just starting out
@danser_theplayer01
@danser_theplayer01 Жыл бұрын
Different variants of units hold different guns which results in different damage types, for example kuva gunners have dragoon instead of gorgon.
@adrianreyes8688
@adrianreyes8688 Жыл бұрын
Adaptation + CALIBAN perfect combo
@UNGGodYT
@UNGGodYT Жыл бұрын
as hildryn main, i need it to have any shield resistance, we cant have the same adaptive shield as the spoder. Btw the exploiter has such good explanation for it being that way.
@turkeykent3719
@turkeykent3719 Жыл бұрын
But u can already shield gate twice with her why u even need adaptation???
@NinjaSyao
@NinjaSyao Жыл бұрын
@@turkeykent3719 In high level it makes your shields last longer, I tried playing Hildryn without Adaptation and I spent way too much time recasting Pillage to stay alive for my liking >.>
@turkeykent3719
@turkeykent3719 Жыл бұрын
@@NinjaSyao yeah i mean u can go the arcane aegis + adaptation to be a afk if u want
@Sherudons
@Sherudons Жыл бұрын
Basically if you take consistent small arms damage you are going to take very little real damage after armour, on a frame that uses it's health or shields with good armour adaptation is very useful once ramped up, or else it's useless on fresh big hits. But on a frame weak on armour or uses some form of evasion or invulnerability it's not very useful.
@SK-mw8vd
@SK-mw8vd Жыл бұрын
Great, as always. Thanks for the content!!
@lozm4835
@lozm4835 Жыл бұрын
Adaptation is a pretty classic example of Warframe's brand of power creep. Multiplier disparity. If you already have a tanky frame, Adaptation is amazing to a concerning degree. If your frame isn't tanky, then you're out of luck. And DE can't build for the middle ground because the average between one hundred and one million is still miles away from what's fair for either.
@joshuathomasverghese1341
@joshuathomasverghese1341 Жыл бұрын
Insta click on that thumbnail and always love the explanation. Keep on it, kengineer
@aw3s0me12
@aw3s0me12 Жыл бұрын
As a german,... my body is ready for all the incoming numbers, calculations and formular(s). Thank you for fullify my *needs!* lol Great content. Approved!
@RobleViejo
@RobleViejo Жыл бұрын
Im trying to take Caliban to the Steel Path and Adaptation is a god send since it works on the shields your Sentient Companions regenerate
@caelumemerald1875
@caelumemerald1875 Жыл бұрын
But it doesnt stack with your passive
@plunderedandmarooned
@plunderedandmarooned Жыл бұрын
@@caelumemerald1875 lots of other frames have shit passives and they do fine anyway
@caelumemerald1875
@caelumemerald1875 Жыл бұрын
@@plunderedandmarooned yeah but you lose more than 50% of adaptation's damage reduction because your passive give it To you. Adaptation on caliban is half a mod
@tiltskillet7085
@tiltskillet7085 Жыл бұрын
Personally I don't use it on Caliban. His passive + minion interference + shield regen/incidental shield gate is enough, enough of the time. I do die occasionally with him, usually when I get careless, but not enough to feel like it's worth burning a mod slot. Especially since some of those deaths would still happen even with Adaptation, and would be offset to a degree by less damage output. Anyway, YMMV, but if you haven't used him much without the mod, it's worth trying.
@plunderedandmarooned
@plunderedandmarooned Жыл бұрын
@@caelumemerald1875 50% dr is really not good, especially when you dont end up seeing that full number a lot of the time and it requires taking damage to activate. i agree that adaptation on caliban is bad, but the answer is shield gating, not tanking
@mr.25eight21
@mr.25eight21 Жыл бұрын
Nah I am coming back to this video tomorrow...It is too late at the moment and my brain can not handle it
@ArchDurandal
@ArchDurandal Жыл бұрын
Well this video answered a lot a questions I didn't even know I had, and definitely explains that 'WTF happened?' scenario.
@edschramm6757
@edschramm6757 Жыл бұрын
my "WTF happened" usually come from i thought i had shields then i found myself staring at the ceiling going "where did my health bar go?"
@Darthmufin
@Darthmufin Жыл бұрын
Like i always said from the start, adaptation is pretty pointless on all frames unless you have some sort of damage reduction, otherwise you are not going to 'feel' a difference in gameplay.
@hisokamorow6709
@hisokamorow6709 Жыл бұрын
Or alot of HP
@Darthmufin
@Darthmufin Жыл бұрын
@@hisokamorow6709 Only if its Inaros levels of hp yeah
@whiterunguard1974
@whiterunguard1974 Жыл бұрын
with nezha's 3rd + adaptation you should in theory have 99% dmg reduction, + whatever armor you have for about 99.3% or more dmg reduction, and as long as you keep moving and evading bullets you dont really need any other mods for survivability as you are nearly immortal, Nezha is the only frame with who I use adaptation on higher levels, on lower levels you dont need ANY survivability mods. Lets not forget the damage buff from his 2 and also being able to subsume roar/eclipse onto him and get even more dmg (even tho its a compleate overkill, but its still nice), easy S tier frame
@holonholon1141
@holonholon1141 Жыл бұрын
Yareli will be in the same boat with the coming Merulina buffs! Also Merulina has the added advantage of scaling multiplicatively off armour shards; not sure if Warding Halo has the same bug.
@turkeykent3719
@turkeykent3719 Жыл бұрын
@@holonholon1141 yep big DR and big damage with her 1 and 3 but….the k drive control sucks and it locks u out of primary so i cant use cedo to prime sadge
@snivycon804
@snivycon804 Жыл бұрын
my firstcthought when i saw this video was "WHAT" bro i get so excited when i see your videos
@Hyperiumon
@Hyperiumon Жыл бұрын
I put adaption on my insane face tank valkyr and she has pretty much max Armour at 3.4/3.5k (about 96 or 97 dam reduction to get any decent amount more you'd have to add near 10k more Armour just for maybe a 2% buff) and combine it with her equally massive hp means toxin procs usually can't touch me and I can gain enough resistance to damage before it turns lethal
@Hyperiumon
@Hyperiumon Жыл бұрын
@Jesse Benjamin Alvarez yea but even with this tank build i have with just 177 power strength and a good build on my claws can make short work of anything up to steel path and even then it still gets the job done although her augment for her 4 with red crits is fun af
@Hyperiumon
@Hyperiumon Жыл бұрын
@Jesse Benjamin Alvarez also just being locked into her 4 even if its good for a whole mission is pretty boring
@renstal7638
@renstal7638 Жыл бұрын
I should be asleep right now, but I’m seeing this upload late. So I’m not sleeping. Simple.
@The57912
@The57912 Жыл бұрын
That's unnecessarily convoluted. Thanks for the explanation mate.
@theinsanityarc
@theinsanityarc 6 ай бұрын
this mod and few health mods is all you need on inaros to go on steel path
@francobuzzetti9424
@francobuzzetti9424 Жыл бұрын
taking this opportunity to ask this: if i have 90% slash , but i get slash procd, do i reduce the proc dmg too? or i still get hit by the true dmg? can't seem to figure this out (didn't try so hard either sorry)
@lordderppington4694
@lordderppington4694 Жыл бұрын
Yeah baby whoooo! That's what I was waiting for!
@D4RKD4YZ
@D4RKD4YZ Жыл бұрын
Ty this was perfectly executed.
@sp4rklsz
@sp4rklsz Жыл бұрын
CLASSIC Thumbnail LULW
@ZomgLolPants
@ZomgLolPants Жыл бұрын
Things like chargers are why i max adaptation, it doesn't matter if you can still reach max cap at a lower upgrade level if you have to take a ton more damage to get to that point
@ssickhead1
@ssickhead1 Жыл бұрын
I just use rolling guard and squishy frames and adapation on naturally tanking frames or frames with damage mitigation abilities like Mesa
@blazer5ronin105
@blazer5ronin105 Жыл бұрын
If you wish to proc the Adaptation without taking damage, simply bring out your melee weapon and block a few shots/strikes. Not as effective a tactic against AOE weapons, But it helps.
@subhuman9544
@subhuman9544 Жыл бұрын
Comment for the algorithm. Kengineer deserves it
@TizonaAmanthia
@TizonaAmanthia Жыл бұрын
yeah, and I didn't HAVE adaptation for the longest time! but it sure is a big difference for Inaros playing the "no shits to give" style of tank.
@George_M_
@George_M_ Жыл бұрын
Evasion bonus from parkour plus a 90% DR ability plus shield gate tend to do it more reliably.
@felix_patriot
@felix_patriot Жыл бұрын
That's also a higher APM. The best strategy is the one which gets the job done with the least effort. For different frames, that means swapping from adaptation to invincibility setups at different levels of content.
@minkuspower
@minkuspower Жыл бұрын
tbh, i've used adaptation basically everywhere and very rarely have any serious issues. most of my frames have 740 hp (r10 vit + adaptation)
@lucasy4790
@lucasy4790 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if adaptation was instead changed to “adaptive nano machine”, giving bonus all-round DR for a few seconds after getting hit.
@maninhu9837
@maninhu9837 Жыл бұрын
So you want nheza?
@Weskerfan
@Weskerfan Жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered doing a video comparing hybrid crit/status melee builds to pure crit/slash ones that use primer secondaries?
@eemanemm
@eemanemm Жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@Assassinwar
@Assassinwar Жыл бұрын
Improvise, adapt and overcome!
@thearcheovistofsolkeeperof6326
@thearcheovistofsolkeeperof6326 Жыл бұрын
Tenno, Sentient and Grineer
@austinbutcher8106
@austinbutcher8106 Жыл бұрын
On tank frames adaptation is a must
@Kuaikuachu
@Kuaikuachu Жыл бұрын
literally easiest way to fix this survivability problem - remove (or lower) enemy damage scaling with level, and rather scale it with mission time. If we will be using enemy scaling with level, theoretically your health has to scale is SOME way, cuz theres a big difference between 10 toxin damage and 600/tick
@Legion.Player
@Legion.Player Жыл бұрын
Basically take hits from lower caliber bullets to gain a higher resistance to higher calibers
@Luigi4evernevermario
@Luigi4evernevermario Жыл бұрын
s'why its hilarious to put on hildryn, and just, jojo walk through everything without a care till like lv200+
@kylar5677
@kylar5677 Жыл бұрын
What are those 'Bleeding Dragon Key' and 'Decaying Dragon Key' under my name? People are telling me its bad but i don see any difference. Please help a Revenant main out.
@TheKengineer
@TheKengineer Жыл бұрын
On the off chance this isn't a joke, those dragon keys are gear items which apply a heavy debuff to your warframe while equipped. Their primary use is to open up orokin vaults which are only found in normal (not open world) deimos missions. Unequip them unless you are opening the vaults or have a specific reason to debuff your frame.
@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour
@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour Жыл бұрын
The different enemy damage types are why I main Rolling Guard.
@Shaderox
@Shaderox Жыл бұрын
Well that's still a good amount of DR from a mod slot, especially since it can reach the cap unupgraded (it just takes twice as long to build stacks), but 2 capacity is quite nice compared to the 16 or whatever it costs maxed, makes it easy to slip into builds even when using umbral mods without having to forma everything several times.
@Goldy01
@Goldy01 Жыл бұрын
Idk man, if you're using umbral set builds and don't max adaptation, that just feels wrong... (also adaptation costs 12 points maxed)
@hisokamorow6709
@hisokamorow6709 Жыл бұрын
@@Goldy01 If he is in a place where he can tank with the Umbra set, maxing Adaptation does very little.
@darrylferguson3622
@darrylferguson3622 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@samuhfardosi1969
@samuhfardosi1969 Жыл бұрын
Guys it really works, I checked.
@Darkarious773
@Darkarious773 Жыл бұрын
This is why I play frames that can go invisible. You can’t get damaged if the enemies can’t see u.
@lanoche
@lanoche Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I came back to WF after almost 3 years of not playing and I left when Adaptation was already a thing and I have always had it at R8 cause I'm cheap and I never really did any math on it, It's just unga bunga low damage to me and it's still my thing to this day lol. I might invest in rolling guard though as I roll more since coming back.
@sibiris8474
@sibiris8474 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Adaptation singlehandedly allowed my ol valkyr to tank SP.
@DalanorTheLlama
@DalanorTheLlama Жыл бұрын
But she can be perma invincible. Why you need that?
@sibiris8474
@sibiris8474 Жыл бұрын
@@DalanorTheLlama I like being able to tank with no abilities. In fact, I modded hysteria with that augment which makes it timed again. I only use to to sweep acolytes or sentients under the rug. But yeah, that ability to just tank lvl 200 with nothing but skin, makes me feel good. Also pretty good for missions with restricted energy or ability use.
@starstreakalex7372
@starstreakalex7372 Жыл бұрын
So this means that the shock absorbers mod is secretly stronger than we'd expect?
@andycampbell8622
@andycampbell8622 5 ай бұрын
Oberon scales weird with it. Like around a few hundred he can tank but then he’s done for 😅
@jaycarl85
@jaycarl85 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the lesson.
@ekman2095
@ekman2095 Жыл бұрын
Great thumbnail
@spingiri7571
@spingiri7571 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the content. Morden times skim facts for neon presentaions... Really thank you. Just wanted to ask, since ive only got like 10 frames and cant investigate as thourough. I think theres a bug after the update where warframe's fourth ability cancels aim glide during cast. Just something ive picked up on. It would be very helpful.
@DragonaxFilms
@DragonaxFilms Жыл бұрын
I can always count on Warframe to make math and statistics actually interesting xD
@giveitarub7215
@giveitarub7215 Жыл бұрын
How does this work with say Citrine's 2 at 90% damage resist? Is there a resistance cap or will it make the 8 impact go to 1?
@hallyuniverse
@hallyuniverse Жыл бұрын
Resistance cap is 99.999999...% unless you have an ability that gives 100% DR like Gauss (he has 100% DR against IPS, Cold, Heat, and Blast when fully stacked). Citrine 2 + fully stacked Adaptation is 98.1% DR. It takes the highest % value and multiplies it by the secondary % value.
@Knopantz
@Knopantz Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Superb info!
@entrippyZ
@entrippyZ Жыл бұрын
Toxin clouds are my arch enemy, I like using any frame and most can survive with adaptation and an evasive playstyle, UNTIL TOXIN CLOUDS GET INVOLVED
@vloopyart
@vloopyart Жыл бұрын
With all these things they've added, squishy frames need a serious buff specially for archon stuff it gets nuts. Give them added armor or maybe make some new mods.
@turkeykent3719
@turkeykent3719 Жыл бұрын
They did… the vazarin school is their buff u get amazing shield gating and literally 5s of invulnerable when u dash through your frame or u can also put null stars on any frame and get 90% DR all the same
@EyeHeytEwe
@EyeHeytEwe 2 ай бұрын
How is your Phenmor not losing ammo in the background footage?
@TheKengineer
@TheKengineer 2 ай бұрын
Evolution 3, Perk 3, Executioner's Fortune. It's losing ammo, then gaining it back
@leerking4571
@leerking4571 Жыл бұрын
Adaptation when I use it gives all damage res that the enemy could do regardless of whichever is higher so I don't understand why yall keep saying it only gives 1 res
@bahamut256
@bahamut256 Жыл бұрын
Adaptation is a bizarre beast. A single enemy won’t reach 90% yes, but two? It’s completely different and can actually reach it. If you are being hit by both slash and impact from two sources, say a grineer marine and a heavy gunner. And both have a higher value in one damage type each, then both activate adaptation. You’ll take less of the slash and less of the impact from both, as both trigger adaptation. Meaning you wind up in a truly fascinating scenario where being shot at by two people is less dangerous than being shot by one.
@danksalt5935
@danksalt5935 Жыл бұрын
Damage mitigation would be useless if you didn't have the sizable HP pool.
@fursda
@fursda Жыл бұрын
Is that mod worth with Caliban? (I'm asking bc' it's passive is lit that mod, lol)
@TheKengineer
@TheKengineer Жыл бұрын
Yes. Taking 5x lower damage is worth it.
@TheArcSet
@TheArcSet Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Quite a deceptive mechanic.
@pronoobWarframe
@pronoobWarframe Жыл бұрын
Nice work from an engineer 😃🤟
@shadownet5443
@shadownet5443 Жыл бұрын
*Laughs in Ash main* - "Taking a single hit is cringe"
@MorteWulfe
@MorteWulfe Жыл бұрын
Edgy boi says "They can't hurt you if they bled out."
@marcosdheleno
@marcosdheleno Жыл бұрын
that's the thing about adaptation, it works better the worse you play... butif you play well, it might as well be an empty slot.
@ragtop63
@ragtop63 Жыл бұрын
Ultimately, there isn’t a single scenario where using Adaptation is better than just using other defensive and healing techniques. Especially when talking about the slot cost of a fully ranked Adaptation.
@Zefar77
@Zefar77 Жыл бұрын
Inaros Prime with that mod and Umbra Health Umbra Armor Umbra Intensify Armored Agility Negation Swarm (For any status effects) Primed Vigor(Just wanted more health and not sure what else to put in) Transient Fortitude Can't use Exilus slot because need to put in 2 Umbra forma into the Warframe. I'm unkillable in Steel Path until that one Acolyte shows up that put the Mag Bubble on you. Then all it takes is 1 shot of anything I got and I'm dead. One time my Sentinel died and I wanted to replace it. It took the enemies quite a while to actually kill me. 5 Minutes I believe. I have 7992 health and 909 armor according to the stats. For even more survivablity I have life steal on my Stropha which is a heavy shot build. One strong shot and my health is full. So from now on if I can I will throw in, Life, extra armor and Adaptation because without it you die so quickly even if you focus on life and armor.
@MrFirecam
@MrFirecam Жыл бұрын
Roll out of the bubble.
@ToniFalck
@ToniFalck Жыл бұрын
you could swap armored agility and primed vigor for the carapace/gladiator mods that give hp/armor and hp carnis carapace would give you additional evasion if you're doing heavy attacks
@Zefar77
@Zefar77 Жыл бұрын
@@ToniFalck Meh I'm durable enough as it is so extra armor isn't needed. Also I like to run fast. I'm planning to throw in normal sprint speed into the exilus slot. With heavy attacks I only use it when I need to kill something strong where Laetum isn't doing the job. So don't need to speed it up.
@AuranTM
@AuranTM Жыл бұрын
This is cool and all but it's a huge investment for that tankiness when you can just take revenant with some ability strength investment and be more or less genuinely invincible, (+being able to oneshot any unit thanks to his first and third abilities and having better CC). I like inaros because seeing all that HP is quite fun, but he's sadly a tad outclassed and deserves some love from DE. That being said, play whatever you have fun with ofc.
@Zefar77
@Zefar77 Жыл бұрын
@@AuranTM Revenant is a heavy ability spam character. Having to recast your abilities quite often. Inaros I just need to activate my ultimate to 100% and I'm done. You could basically get the same affect just not using the Umbra mods. The power strength for the ultimate ability is still gonna give you enough boost in defense. It's also Nullifier proof. Revenant accidentially going into a nullifier bubble and he's in trouble. Inaros? I still got my health, adaptation and armor as I just lose the ultimate. Which I can quickly re apply. Also by the time you're playing around in Steel path you should more than enough resources to handle the cost of upgrading mods. The statues will generate more than enough Endo for you. Dealing with any normal enemy or Eximus I just unload Leatum into them. Only a few Eximus units can tank the damage Laetum does in Incarnon form where instead of taking 1 second they take 5 seconds to die.
@denis66641
@denis66641 Жыл бұрын
The biggest lie is Torment saying "I have not been defeated" when she clearly have been defeated with witnesses.
@SMGXMASK
@SMGXMASK Жыл бұрын
I use a gauss with kinetic armor and a sentinel that refills my sheilds by 100% and helminth mirage eclipse and redline as my fourth with 300% strength and 300% duration
@turkeykent3719
@turkeykent3719 Жыл бұрын
Uh yeah a hook from a toxic ancient kills u instantly 😂
@antimattered3921
@antimattered3921 Жыл бұрын
i always had a suspition that thats how it worked
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