How enlisted rank works in todays Army

[@dougtheeliminator1077]

When I was in (1982-1985), I automatically got my E-2 and E-3 just like you mentioned. My sergeant at the time told me to go and buy the rank insignia and wear it. We really didn't have promotion ceremonies/orders for those ranks back then. Also, the Army still had the rank of Specialist 5 (E-5) at that time. It was not considered an NCO and the rank was eliminated in October 1985, which at that time all Sp5's automatically became Sergeants.

[@edwardnakagawa593]

** Yo ! I was in during the Same time ! Haven't seen Anybody in the Same time slot,til Now ! Right On ! Take Care !

[@dougtheeliminator1077]

@@edwardnakagawa593 Thank you for your service, fellow vet!

[@aegisofhonor]

back in the 60s and 70s they even had specialist all the way up to E-9. What made this rank funny was you had basically no authority past the people in your direct unit that were NOT NCOs or officers; A "two stripe" Corporal has more command authority then a "Specialist 9". Fortunately, the army realized how stupid those ranks were and got rid of the senior enlisted specialist ranks in the early 70s and got rid of all "NCO" level Spec ranks by the early 80s but it would be funny to see a young 20 year old Corporal to be bossing around a 45 year old Specialist 9.

[@jrooksable]

At one time there were Specialist ranks all the up to E-9, and at that time ALL NCO grades outranked ALL Specialist grades, so an E-5 Sergeant outranked a specialist 9 even tho the Sp-9 had the exact same TIS TIG as a CSM, in the words of Top Lee, "that was bullshit & gunsmoke"!🤣

[@georgemaxwell3467]

I made E4 in 14 months because my 1st duty station disbanded 7 months after I got there and they promoted all the E1s-E3s in the unit before we all left to our new units!! This was back in 1987...

[@Roh-c8e]

Just wondering, were you with the Pershing unit in Germany?

[@patinomaha1]

Corporal isn't always a local or unit assignment. I was permanently promoted to CPL in Korea and it held over to my last duty station at Riley (despite me trying to dump the stripes for my last few months).

[@aidsskrillex5355]

My recruiter had me do something to automatically make E2. He was pretty cool.

[@russ1376]

Our First Sergeant had 9 yrs Time in Service when he took command of our company.

[@jthavorn]

27 minutes of chaos. Time to get that popcorn! 👍

[@zacharyrobbins7208]

Love your channel, watching these videos make me extremely excited to go to basic and become a soldier. (I leave June 8th for Ft Leonard wood)

[@christopherchaos]

Good luck and thanks for watching!!!

[@armymang6472]

Good luck. I leave for basic June 30th to Fort Jackson.

[@aegisofhonor]

there are ways of breaking that early promotion requirements by meeting certain requirements at boot camp and AIT. I have heard of quite a few instances where people were promoted to PFC before 6 months or even specialist after just a year in the Army. But once you get to your unit and have passed up those early promotion opportunities in early training, you are pretty much going to be bound by those early promotion requirements unless you do something extra special like win Soldier of the Quarter or a Best Warrior competition.

[@kennymcfadden636]

Ahah! I can watch it! I’m still waiting at the airport to go to Fort Leonard Wood. Great success! Hahaha. Thanks for the videos Chris. I’m going to miss them and especially the livestreams over the next 6 months!

[@kurtrussell5228]

..... you're gonna hate it....

[@beetogarcia9983]

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[@kurtrussell5228]

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[@beetogarcia9983]

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[@dougtheeliminator1077]

@@kurtrussell5228 Are you Snake Pliskin???

[@kjorlaug1]

You said powerpoint and a chill went down my spine 😁

[@christopherchaos]

Lol. That makes me think "powerpoint and chill" should be a thing.

[@VGMRMissCoriel]

My Platoon Sergeants loved having promotion ceremonies.. Gotta punch that rank on them lol

[@markvenozzi9843]

And we love you ❤️ 😂

[@jjb0894]

I got punched pretty hard when I went from PFC to SPC. 😂

[@johnslyfield5096]

E4 criteria has changed. Specialists are those who didn’t either go through the promotion board or didn’t go through the course. Corporals have been through both but are short promotion points or other requirements So corporal in one unit is a corporal in another now

[@billbaker2725]

My co called me into his office back in 1992 and said you got promoted to specialist....had to go buy the sham shields..when I got my e3..they just knocked on my barracks door and gave me the promotion paperwork..lol

[@dougtheeliminator1077]

LOL!

[@lawrencetierney3697]

We do thing differently in the Canadian Army/Navy/Airforce (Combined Service) First we do not have the up and out attitude, as a much smaller military consisting of 97,625 Members including the Primary Reserves, we do not have the numbers. This number includes all three services. When we enlist we first sign for a Three to Five Year Contract (Depending on your Military Occupational Component (MOC)) at the end of your first contract you may be offered either another Three to Five Year Contract or an Indeterminate Period of Service (IPS) for 25 Years. At the end of the IPS date, you may then be offered a Indeterminate Engagement (IE), which allows you to remain to Age 60. After the 25 Year mark you may retire with an unpenalized Pension, based on years served and the Best Five Years of your Salary (Usually the last five Years of your Career). If for some reason you are not offered either the IE or IPS, you are automatically released (retired) from service upon completion of your contract. As far as Promotions are concerned you have an automatic promotion from Pte to Cpl (E1 to E4) after a period of 4 Years, this promotion is also dependent upon whether you have been offered either an contract extension or an IPS. After this period your advancement in rank is solely dependent on your Performance Evaluation Report (PER) and the current Promotion Openings within your trade for that year. You must serve an Minimum of Two Years in Rank (E1 to E4) and a Minimum of Four to Five Years in Rank (E-5 to E9) before your PER goes in front of the Merit Board. It not uncommon in the Canadian Forces to see Cpls with 25 Years of service or more. Advancement in Rank is also dependent on Rank openings, for example if your Trade is small there are fewer Rank opening s as people have a tendency to stay longer, which means fewer promotions. I use an example from my former Trade at that time. I knew an individual who was promoted to the rank of Chief Warrant Officer (E-9 equivalent) that person still had 14 years left to serve on their contract which means that they locked up that rank, denying the chance for those below them to move up and since we only had two CWO's in the Trade that reduced the chances of promotion. This effect would then trickle down to the lower Ranks of Master Warrant Officer (E-8) and to a lesser extent the Warrant Officers (E-7), meaning that you literally had to wait for someone to either retire or die to open up the ranks. Again it was not uncommon to see individuals in these ranks with 25 Years or more of Service. Lawrence Tierney Warrant Officer (Ret)

[@jayjochey1396]

Getting pinned corporal soon n holding it until I get a blc slot, sad day when I officially leave the E-4 mafia

[@kurtrussell5228]

SPCs aren't $h1T.........you'll learn that.....you're in business if you make E7

[@jayjochey1396]

@@kurtrussell5228 I’m only 2 years and 6 months in, I’ll be the youngest NCO in my company

[@kurtrussell5228]

@@jayjochey1396 good luck, you're gonna need it

[@YOUNGDOCGH]

You did better than my recruiters. I joined the army because I love the United States 🇺🇸. Either way, I wouldn't join when I found out at meps about not getting a bonus as promised, being placed at E1, etc. They weren't transparent, but I am happy to be in the army

[@Quecuhzoo]

I saw a medic in my unit go from PFC to CPL and I was a SPC promotable and we always joked about who’s the *real* higher ranking lol

[@S1D3W1ND3R015]

Probably TIG or who has BLC done. Lol

[@jrooksable]

Think about this! The moment orders are cut commissioning someone a 2nd Lieutenant (s)he outranks the SMA...(technically!)😉

[@asianpianoboi245]

Please do the modern officer ranks for modern day next. It will be helpful.

[@MsG_executor]

to get to E-5 in a year or 2 join the 18 series

[@aeonversestudios01]

When I was in the guard, we had an E4 who was in for about 12 years and was trying to promote but there were no slots available so they made him a corporal so he wouldn't have to get out before finally getting promoted to sergeant

[@bakerboy8910]

I went from E-1 to E-4 in one tour. Talk about combat promotions.

[@gregorylatta8159]

You probably earned it!

[@princehill7783]

Extra XP

[@princehill7783]

Double XP

[@commosection]

I don't know if they still do this but back in the 80's my room mate became an acting SGT but in the pay grade of a sp/4 (E-4) I think he didn't have the points for E-5. Back then the only Corporals had combat mos's like Infantry or Artillery etc.

[@theilluminati4076]

i came in in 2022 as an E3 w/o JROTC or an associates, I got a referral and passed a ot test before leaving for BCT

[@DannyNomad]

What's the dynamic between very experienced NCOs and young Commissioned Officers? My understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, is that a lieutenant fresh out of the academy outranks a sergeant who has twenty years of service. Does this cause issues when a twenty year sergeant and a twenty-year-old lieutenant disagree?

[@seanpatmac27]

I think members of the Army Band get to come into the Army as an E5 I think

[@christopherchaos]

They get automatic E4 after they complete their training.

[@dougtheeliminator1077]

@@christopherchaos "Training?" You mean learning how to do a killer guitar rip?? LOL!!!!!

[@ballsdeep6912]

@@dougtheeliminator1077 they all go through basic training. Same goes for Marines. Only ones that don’t are Air Force iirc

[@christoskettenis880]

So why won't they call an E2 a PFC and an E3 a sub-corporal or lance-corporal, just to distinguish those E1s and E2s?

[@GTBANNA]

Fuzzy and mosquito wings

[@dougtheeliminator1077]

E-1, aka "Slick sleeve."

[@jakeparrott9096]

This was awesome thank you!

[@JTL1776]

Does anyone know 1SG or CSM. With only 10 years in the army.

[@JTL1776]

Does anyone know an E9 with only 9 or 10 years in.

[@Corprul]

Please do this for commissioned officer ranks

[@edwardnakagawa4262]

* I Have A Problem, With Automatic Promotions,Because, The Person being promoted should be Able to Show some progress and the willingness to Try to Learn the Job they are doing and Excell in what they do ! When being Promoted, Leaders/Leadership, Should Have A discussion, If that Person Is Capable of or Should Be Able to Move to A Higher Grade, if Not, Should Not be Upgraded, because they are not Up to Standard !

[@toilet_cleaner_man]

Its irrelevant because they show a willingness to participate and work the army lifestyle by staying in the army without being discharged. Also they hold no significant responsibilities, as SPC's or PFC's must show all of what you just said to receive the rank of Corporal, the only non-NCO rank to gain leadership responsibilities.

[@Sgt_Sharpshooter]

Anyone here an Eagle scout who joined the army and got rank? What rank did you get?

[@parkerbaker7310]

I'm an Eagle Scout. Came in as E1! They goofed on my paperwork and told me it was too complicated to fix and to just roll with it

[@kurtrussell5228]

I got SMA

[@m1a1abrams3]

cant u just google that?

[@kurtrussell5228]

Just wear whatever rank you feel like you should be

[@Sgt_Sharpshooter]

@@parkerbaker7310 rip

[@kjorlaug1]

Can't people stay in the guard as an E4 for 20 years?

[@Eonizpro]

Is 22 years old to old to join? I’m thinking about it but not sure if it’s the right move

[@christopherchaos]

Not too old at all.

[@bryanalvarado6640]

im going into meps today at 27, not old at all

[@makemoola5145]

im goin in at 24 never too old brother

[@edwardnakagawa593]

*** PFC - PROUD F*CKING CIVILIAN ?

[@55ricci]

Chris, love the chanel ! but I always thought the rank of corporal pay grade E 4 Is the begining of the NCO corps ?

[@rarelibra]

it is

[@bertlynharper425]

Hi you did not mention lance corporal , but I will like to know is why a specialist gets the same pay as a lance corporal.

[@MCKevin289]

Pretty sure the army eliminated the rank in the 60’s. Only the marines have it I think.

[@jrooksable]

I got out at 5 yrs, 11 mos as an E-4 mostly because I hated not being with my kids!

[@ShaneBradfordTV]

I’ve heated if you have a EMT certification you can enlist as a 68W and go straight to E4

[@miastrok]

Does Time in Grade Transfer over from prior Service?

[@christopherchaos]

Yes. Pretty sure it does.

[@jovanni_orb5116]

How does joining the army as an e-4 or e-5 with six years of time in service affect promotions?

[@edwardnakagawa593]

**** At 4, That's where *Everybody, Gets Stuck !

[@scooby0819]

Hey odd question how does an army scholarship work?

[@barrettboese4164]

For Army ROTC, you would apply for it though the Army to a school with ROTC. They have 4 year, 3 year, and 2 year awards. This means that the Army would pay for your tuition in full and give you a stipend of $420 a month, with $600 for book money. You could change out that tuition money for the Army to pay room and board. But most people choose the tuition. It’s a pretty sweet deal. If you don’t win a scholarship before you head off to the university, if you join ROTC you will have a chance to win a scholarship after your first year. That’s what happened to me. I’m currently on a 3 scholarship and I was awarded that after my freshman year. I hope this answers your question. If not let me know and I’ll try to clarify.

[@scooby0819]

lol that works thx

[@marksmusicplace3627]

E6 to E7, E7 to E8, and E8 to E9 known as the centralized promotion board used to have their records reviewed a by a promotion board to review their records. The NCOS do not have to appear before a panel as done when a E4 goes to the E5 board and a E5 goes to the E6 board. But E7 to E9 promotion boards are given the NCOs records where NCOs were given a grade point system of 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1 by each voting board member. the board would look at DA Photos, the NCOs OMPF as well as NCOERS and are reviewed by a panel of CSMs, SGMs and one officer over the voting panel. NCOs, if selected, are based on the graded points given by the voting panel. and how many slots for promotion based on that MOS. the NCO will be then awarded a sequence number which was given based on the points awarded by the board panel and the time in grade and time in service of that NCO. Now its changed to a OML point system of how many NCOs are in the MOS from most qualified to the least qualified, A NCO can check their ranking number in their AKO accounts to see where they rank. E6 to E7 promotion or OML review board happens every February of that year, E8 to E9 promotion review panel happens every June. and E7 to E8 every October. NCOs non selected for promotion are usually told by the their leadership and usually a AAR of board results and available on the HRC website and NCOs can look to see where in their careers they are progressing and where they are falling short. Leadership time may not be enough. so many variables can fall into play as to why some NCOs make E7, E8 and even E9 and as to why some NCOs never get passed E6.

[@mtvxo1868]

just enlisted 13F option 40 I need advice and guidance I leave may 31st, what can I do to prepare

[@TheEmpowermentCoach]

What about prior service? Do they have to be in the “Army” for X months to go E-5 to E-6 or does their prior years count. Example if one did 8 years in the Marines and got out e-5 and they went into the Army as an e-5.

[@christopherchaos]

Yes, your time transfers over, and commonly, you can keep your rank as long as there is not a large gap between switching branches.

[@sofakingj5498]

for E2 (for example) Where it says automatic promotion, is it automatic promotion from E1 to E2 or from E2 to E3??

[@sofakingj5498]

oh wait, nevermind, had to rewind lol

[@sofakingj5498]

E1 to E2 just incase anybody is confused

[@peachesrambo4037]

And an automatic demotion back to e1

[@revracentertainment]

Actually most e4 marines get offered e5 when joining the army

[@christopherchaos]

False. No one can come into the Army as an E5 unless they were an E5 in another branch. E5 requires a promotion board and NCO academy so without that, they don't qualify.

[@ParkBongSig]

Can you waive the time in service to get from E-4 to E-5

[@christopherchaos]

That secondary zone is the soonest that is possible. Can't get promoted faster than that.

[@DULF26]

Are there combat officers? Like officers who are in the front line leading their men like in WW1

[@chrismc410]

Yes, they command platoons, batteries, companies, etc. Usually O-1 to O-4

[@brianblackwell5713]

When did they start the “1st Sergeant academy “?

[@brianblackwell5713]

You left out a boatload of stuff

[@imsohussein]

Chris do this TIS applicable to the Army reserve or NG

[@christopherchaos]

Yes but sometimes they have ways around it. Promotions work a little different in the reserves and national guard.

[@imsohussein]

@@christopherchaos thank you Chris

[@deonbenton210]

Is it true that you need to take college classes to make it to e-5

[@christopherchaos]

Not usually. In some cases when the points requirements are really high then a soldier might need to get in some college credits to be able to make points but that's not usually the case for E5.

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

What about warrant officer from sgt.

[@Oxcotton09]

Failure to promote then GOMAR them right? So you really don't get to hit a RCP date

[@edwardnakagawa4262]

** Some People, Should Not be Promoted, If They Don't Deserve It ! What A Travesty ! *I Seen A Guy Fail Drug Tests, Get Promoted To SGT ! ** ABSOLUTELY TRUE !! Just Because the Leadership, Liked the guy !

[@dougtheeliminator1077]

I agree 100% with you on that issue. I never agreed with "waivers" either for TIG/TIS. Do your time and earn it!

[@edwardnakagawa593]

* I Made *SGT, Within 1 Enlistment ! *True ! *BEAT ! *THAT ! * And ! Would * Never ! Re Up ! Ever !

[@jbarnett4383]

I made SSG in 1 enlistment! I passed Jumpmaster school on first try and they threw the rank at me . I didn't even go to BNOC. They said I had to go within 2 years after I made staff sergeant. Got deployed so that didn't happen.

[@rustyh711]

Does this work the same for the Army Reserves?

[@Staticjumper]

1SG = Detached battalion clerk.

[@dannymcglone7430]

Do they still do BNOC AND ANOC

[@christopherchaos]

Sort of. The name are just different.

[@cupnoodles6714]

There are talks about putting ranks back on the collars because females are complaining during promotions that commanders are touching their chest

[@dougtheeliminator1077]

They used to be on the collar.

[@cupnoodles6714]

@@dougtheeliminator1077 yeah, my bad, I meant to say that

[@jurban611]

Notification platoon.

[@steveedington5231]

Slick sleeve e-1 I saw a man retire at 20 years as an E-1

[@collateral9159]

so someone could ssgt in 5 years. thats wildddd

[@matthewvasser2436]

SSG in 4ish years

[@steveedington5231]

Private E-0 I heard my time in the US Army Army training

[@jamalbaguan8386]

Sergeant major is special rank

[@GTBANNA]

As a contracted cadet my drill pay is the same as an E5.

[@dannymcglone7430]

E4 mafia baby

[@stt577]

E2 TWATS WHERE YOU AT???

[@therealcosta1097]

@@stt577 💪🏽💪🏽

[@malinyamato]

US rank are so totally different from Swedish Army ranks...

[@danielfatfingahs5649]

If they don't buy slide-on rank for their cold/wet weather top, have they really been promoted?! 😆😆😆

[@danielfatfingahs5649]

5:03 - it's definitely Private Second Class

[@rarelibra]

there is no such thing as a First Sergeant Academy ... the Army has the US Army First Sergeants Course

[@nasirmohammed2810]

4th