How Evony Manipulates You Into Spending Money

[@raajparkash7981]

Evony is / was a good game until Evony went crazy 🤪 for money up until K35 it required strategic skill even up to K40 Was manageable even for F2P , lately in last year or so it’s become greedy too many general releases aka as you said MOFO , Loot boxes as you said , and the mental Spending ofc if can afford it and want to then go ahead but this game became famous due to covid , covid is over & it’s time to get back into the real world ! I’m a ex Evony player & one day just got up deleted game , gave up smoking same day & got my life back , prior to this I was in game upto 15 hours a day & was very good , one day I thought I’m wasting my time life in a virtual world of archers ground mount siege BOC / bog / svs that makes no difference to my life … but this is my personal opinion , my advice get out quick dump the keep , use that energy to do something real in real life what you Evony does teach you is that if you focus as much you do in Evony you probably can achieve anything good 👍 luck all the best

[@ronaldoEscalanteCruz]

What drives me to spend is believing the other guy won't spend as much as I'll spend and get the edge.

[@Maath_Faseli]

Don't worry they think the same thing about you

[@lakachewdessie1097]

The best video ever on this channel. It touches everyone in the game.Well done bro. Lots of Respect!

[@cryptonianx0834]

Nice to see some content that is different than other channels. Good job 👍

[@jedicat9470]

Good video. I'm f2p player and I find this game to offer immense amount of resources and things to tinker with for free. I've been tempted many times to spend something little to boost advance in game, but I've been able to resist the urge. Unlike Borgs think, my resistance is not futile, I base it on accepting the fact that no matter how much I spend, I ain't going to even in same galaxy with best of the players. Instead I concentrate on what I can do with my limited resources. So I set myself a goal to try to take 1 pair of gens (roland and aethel) as far as possible in game to run monsters effectively. Then for pvp, motivated by your thought of using them two, I'm going to pair up Minamoto and Genghis to form a all-purpose archer/ghost march to bg, reinforcing and attacking. I try to play this game as a support character to help my alliance within best of my ability, and that will bring me joy and hopefully occasional moments of success on individual level as well. I think you can enjoy this game via people you play with. Not every one has to be the hot shot big gun, you can be really important piece by just helping in tasks which don't require huge army and premium gens. If somebody is feeling anguish about their lack of firepower in the game, I suggest you to try this approach, it can be very rewarding! Sorry for lengthy message and enjoyable gaming experiences to everyone Ps: my age group 40-50 Pps: love your content , keep up the good work

[@Maath_Faseli]

Thank you for that comment, I'm glad you're able to find enjoyment in Evony without selling your soul lol

[@tomasvidal1053]

I´m agree with you

[@TheFraglife]

the more you grow in the game the more you spend thats a thing i have notice and one more thing evony pop ups are really anoying

[@millennialcutie]

Lovely content!!! Evony always wins, and listens to naught.

[@rabbinkhadka5491]

The analysis you did is just awesome. Keep it up.

[@seekeroftruth9200]

The answer for most of us is „Too much“

[@tomasvidal1053]

I think is a great video. I want to ad to the psicological things a mathematical thing that is the "geometrical progresion" that´s ideal to achieve those psicological things you mentioned in the video.

[@johnny8531]

I always had a limit on how much i will spend for every new game i start once i hit that limit i stop spending. So many games out there to play that i never stick with just one sooner or later i always leave a old game for a new one.

[@Maath_Faseli]

That's a good way to do it

[@Shamir1515]

Hey will you be updating the ground general sheet with Totila and Frigg? Just checking else I can do my own calcs

[@Maath_Faseli]

yeah give me an hour, editing the video now

[@Shamir1515]

@@Maath_Faseli Awesome! Thanks for all you do ♥♥♥

[@Kryptokeeper9]

You should make more videos like this.

[@timhoughhough6370]

Very very good content. Well done!

[@johnny8531]

after watching the full video, Hello my name is jon, I have internet gaming disorder... Sorry i have to leave so soon Evony is waiting for me to log in )

[@mrbakey1113]

I enjoyed the video, however the background music was too loud and distracting sometimes i could barely hear you.

[@toddcanterino3376]

Great video. Thanks.

[@marcuscopeland1250]

Great video

[@off-roadandrandomthingswit397]

I see people spend thousands on many different "activities" that can be construed as frivolous.....i.e. traveling, partying,, shopping, etc. We are just an amalgamation of our experiences. If a video game brings you joy, how is that any different than spending thousands on clothes, vacationing, cars, etc.? the problem comes in when you are spending outside your means, but again, that can be said about ANYTHING.

[@Maath_Faseli]

That's very true, but the difference is that those other things generally do not have the predatory spending framework of games like evony. Mobile games just make it easier to irresponsibly spend

[@queenlip6152]

Baby Bear Sings said the same thing. The silly money she spends on Evony will be spent on silly things elsewhere.

[@dragorn3212]

Never saw this much ridiculous spending until evony. Vacations and decent condo rent is far cheaper than what the top 10-15 on my server are paying. these people getting to 2 billion power within a few weeks is insane. Either im just really ignorant about how to get money or they are developers manipulating people to spend. And there seems to be no limit to their growth, several hundred million power increase every week or more which consumes more resources than i have acquired in all my time playing and i'm not free either. You mean to tell me there are this many people in one place dropping thousands per week like its nothing?

[@lordtoxic1686]

I don't believe their "chance" algorithms are legit

[@drouleau]

The amusing part is I started playing Evony a year ago to save money over another game I was playing. If only I could go back in time (VIP18 @ 10.2M points....do the math), I never would've downloaded this stupid game. I'm K39 and while K40 and T15's would be nice, they're not another $20k+ nice. But, like everything else in the world today, it's largely driven by immense amounts of greed. I have a few more "goals" I'd like to hit, and then I'll prob give my account to someone in my alliance. It's a money and time suck and I'm burned out.

[@Pimp_C]

Damn, i have both disorders 😢 im doomed, but i quit spending when i feel like it 😂

[@Maath_Faseli]

If you think you might have a problem, it's worth looking into researches that can give you more information on the topic

[@Pimp_C]

@@Maath_Faseli I think I'm good, I don't gamble if I can't afford it, and I don't buy Evony packs if I can't afford it either, I know not everyone has restraint

[@cortesdoancapsu260]

I dont like the way Evony forces adverstments for you spend, super agressive way. But also I dont blame they to keep launching offer, people spend a lot in some shits because they just believe miracles happens, they buy expensive courses and mentorships that they never finish. So the money always going from the dumbiest to smarters, dont matter the way. I just dont wanna to be foolish by liers. If Evony say the truth, its ok, you are not obligate to spend. I spent around only $100 bucks till my K35 and i can play competitive. Ofc i saw some non sense guys that buy packages every week and ask in chat if gold sub is better than greens. But is what i said before, people spend their money as they like, and its fine. At least you have some fun. I can guarantee others big companys doing same or worst to sale. And to finish my thoughts addictive exist in many areas, this kind of people need see the doctar and having treatment, its not the game, its they. If not addict to the game they will easy find another thing, believe me.

[@youngjohn5076]

Great video. Addictive like gambling or drugs. It is scam. Crazy to see people spends thousands on a mobile game.

[@Maath_Faseli]

That's exactly right

[@napo3393]

No idea. Havent spend any

[@dragorn3212]

Im highly disappointed with the pay to play component of this game. I was naiive enough at the beginning to think if i was active, completed tasks, spent time on the game i'd be in the top tier of my server and all i'd need is light coining to supplement. Not only was i wrong completely but i didn't realize my server was still new and the players with hundreds of millions to billions of power had gotten there in only a few weeks. After spending billions and billions of resources im no where near even the top 10 players . What really surprises me is not that there are one or two people who spend a lot on a server, but the fact that many players do it. And the amount they'd have to spend is so unbelievable that im 90% convinced many of them are just directly working for developers. It seems easy: "oh ill just get my keep to 33-34 like these players and ill be able to get hundreds of millions of power." In reality getting to that keep level if it weren't hard enough is nothing, then you have to pay for millions of troops which is another small fortune in terms of resources. Pay to win is one thing but this game takes it to a whole new extreme where 95% of the power is with those who spend small fortunes.

[@Maath_Faseli]

It's very unfortunate the way the game is structured, but I don't think they'll ever change it.

[@queenlip6152]

1) We know about the general skins costs. Coiners like Baby Bear Sings & Gaming Addicts with Genghis have time again mentioned how much they spent, or have to spend, to get those items. (2) The entrapment example is too general. Women have often stayed with cheating husbands because of the amount of investment they have poured into the marriage. I don't recall psychologists saying that is entrapment. (3) Keeping up with players is not like it's written. We need to keep up with the bigger players because, time & again they have turned tyrannical. How do you not know that having played Evony? People spend $ to keep up so that they have a say on how they play and not become the prey of others. It's also about being in control. You are in control when you run rallies. Fou do it when you want and how you do it. Those following rallies are always slaved to another's play time and demands. They can't go anywhere. Always following the rally leaders wherever they decide to rally from. Rally leaders often call out others to search for bosses. It's known that those in upper management who control how they work are far more satisfied than their subordinates whose work is dictated by others. Same thing with games. Not just keeping up with others but being in control is more pleasurable and less stressful.

[@Maath_Faseli]

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22978068/#:~:text=Abstract,devoting%20too%20much%20to%20lose. This article is from the US National Library of Medicine and is about women being entrapped in relationships. You're right about it also being about being in control, that's another reason people spend.

[@Dave-xq1su]

Yep

[@NEFMako]

You missed a few key elements with some of this stuff. Such as the guaranteed chances on some of the events. So the skin for example is not “thousands of dollars” because of the guaranteed chance.

[@Maath_Faseli]

The amount you need to spend to get the guaranteed chance is still insane

[@NEFMako]

@@Maath_Faseli it’s definitely more than it used to be or should be, but the changes to the Chinese gambling laws recently has had negative effects on the coining structure for some events.

[@chryssesandchaos]

I normally do not spend on mobile games, but Evony got me to spend, unfortunately, lol! What's really funny though, when I go to new servers and I give advise to new players in wc, to not spend on Evony, that it's an expensive game, etc. Players always think I'm just being negative, even the ones who aren't new to Evony, I find that weird, but I guess, they don't want to feel bad about their addiction to Evony? Evony does have a way of making you spend and it's not necessarily the packs, lol!

[@Maath_Faseli]

Most people are in denial about how much they spend. It's the typical "I can stop whenever I want" line. I opened the game to check for new generals today and caught myself looking at packs

[@chryssesandchaos]

@@Maath_Faseli true, lol!

[@accord21]

I just bought another pack 🤦‍♀

[@Maath_Faseli]

Spending money isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's when it gets out of control that there's a problem

[@SpenceStan888]

Good video, until last part were you implied over 30 crowd doesn't understand/know of the tricky practices, only 'the young know it'... That is an insult, considering you are studying to become a psychologist. I spent some on this game, will invest much more when my check comes in from my long lost, dead uncle, who was apparently a Nigerian prince.. who knew...😮

[@Maath_Faseli]

I didn't mean it as an insult, sorry if you took it that way. It has been my personal observation that people over 30 tend to be less familiar with current trends in gaming and such, but I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Here's an article I found comparing online knowledge of Americans based on age and education www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/10/09/americans-and-digital-knowledge/ Here's a quote from that article "Beyond educational differences, digital knowledge also varies by age, though these gaps are less pronounced than those tied to education levels." From looking at the study the difference between 18-29 and 30-49 is not that extreme, but when you compare 18-29 to 50-64 the difference is much more noticeable.

[@SpenceStan888]

All good brother 😊

[@SpenceStan888]

@EvonyAcademy_ every generation will be more adept to technology than their predecessors, everyone knows that. There is wisdom & experience from the older generation. Referencing my Nigerian prince scam...popular in the '90s Or the common extended warranty in modern times. Always working an angle to get money, or more money, out of us. Older I get.... more jaded & skeptical i get. Last year a 'leaked' video was making the rounds on gaming company tactics on ways to maximize revenue. Bulk of revenue came from whales, so how to have whales spend more

[@PRFMKF]

@@Maath_Faseli predatory frameworks have existed like these for over a decade. They might have new tactics but it's the same game. Their goal to take time and money. The over 40 crowd is likely more at risk as they didn't grow up with the introduction of internet. 😂

[@chryssesandchaos]

@@PRFMKF Lol, it's the over 40's that witnessed the birth or rather the evolution of the Internet, from pc to smart phones, to etc. I think it's more of it's because they are at that age where they have a more established income source, compare to the younger ones.