How Fake Newspapers in Movies Get Made!

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@tested
@tested 11 ай бұрын
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@annakissed3226
@annakissed3226 11 ай бұрын
Is off set litho using lead characters, numbers & shims rare these days? At school I did a printing class laying up documents in the standard reverse & up-side-down using characters, numbers, special characters, shimming each line so that the formatting & kerning were correct. All of them were from layup cartridges full of bins each full of whatever characters were needed. Learning how to block text using a wood & key, is hard because Lead is a soft metal. So easy to screw up the block by overtightening. But heaven help you if you forget to lock it down & caused even just a section be dropped on the floor. Like everything it takes ages to get faster & the pros are just insane. Believe me the switch to imaged hot metal changed everything!
@jkp41978
@jkp41978 11 ай бұрын
My uncle was the production manager for a newspaper. There were a few times when he would change out stories for special occasions. One in particular, he replaced a story about a local murder with a story about my aunt tuning 40. He then ran the press to create several copies. She didn't know it was fake and thought the headline story was her 40th.
@BurgerurgerFPV
@BurgerurgerFPV 11 ай бұрын
Huh
@jackmalvern2394
@jackmalvern2394 11 ай бұрын
Great story.
@orangejjay
@orangejjay 11 ай бұрын
That's so damn cute. lol I would've loved such a birthday gift, whether it was the headline or not. That's awesome. ❤❤❤
@littoww
@littoww 10 ай бұрын
Did your aunt have a nice birthday
@joefoster6715
@joefoster6715 11 ай бұрын
One of my all time favorite facts comes from a type setter/printer at the Cowtown Museum in Wichita, KS. The boxes that hold all the letters are called cases. When typesetting, you need the regular letters a lot more than the capital letters so the case of capitals would be put on the upper shelf. The case of regular letters would be put on the lower shelf where it is easier to get to. That's why we still call them uppercase and lowercase letters.
@shphotocouk
@shphotocouk 11 ай бұрын
Look up the origin of the phrase "all out of sorts"....
@joefoster6715
@joefoster6715 11 ай бұрын
That's amazing!!!@@shphotocouk
@georgesenda1952
@georgesenda1952 11 ай бұрын
When I went to Marina Jr. High School in 1965, I took print shop. We used to set lead type that poured into a mold, clamped it into blocks and ran the school paper and notices for classes off of a Gutenberg Press. We also used a Varityper to do large & small text & had another device that would print the pictures we had to use. If I saw a press like that today I could still print a small newspaper and I was 13 then and 71 now. Thanks for doing this video.
@justinsliversoap1706
@justinsliversoap1706 11 ай бұрын
The Earl Hays videos yall have been putting out have been a real treat! Printed media has always been so interesting to me, so finding out about how they actually do it fascinating
@EinsteinsHair
@EinsteinsHair 11 ай бұрын
Watch how a Linotype works, some time. On the Roku is available a channel called Joe Screwdriver's Retro Tech Time Machine, which has old, short industrial films. The Linotype melted lead and cast lines of text with no electronics. They made some complicated machines in the past.
@jimnop2000
@jimnop2000 11 ай бұрын
Spent the better part of my career making up newspaper pages. Always hated when prop newspapers were designed "wrong" -- headlines that dont fill out, etc. Interesting to hear that old ink-stained wretches were involved in this venerable Hollywood institution.
@ddupree79
@ddupree79 11 ай бұрын
Same. I yell every time I see a poorly designed page on screen. It's as if they've never even looked at a newspaper before.
@yobgodababua1862
@yobgodababua1862 11 ай бұрын
Long after we have stopped consuming Newspapers, Earl Hayes will still be printing them for period pieces. That's beautiful .
@GaryDeWitt-t6p
@GaryDeWitt-t6p 11 ай бұрын
A Linotype machine? Seriously? I've been to both the Linotype company (Chicago, still existed as of a couple decades ago) and in the 60s, the Los Angeles Times typesetting and press rooms, a grade school field trip. The linotype is about the size of a small car and emits lead fumes. And I used to work in pre-press, composing film. I have a roll of amberlith they may be interested in. Fascinating. Earl Hays Press should devote a room to a museum. I'd pay to see some of this in person.
@thecanadianmacadamian3018
@thecanadianmacadamian3018 11 ай бұрын
Shoutout Wilhelm scream
@ccoder4953
@ccoder4953 11 ай бұрын
Filmmaking is one of the few places it makes sense to keep that sort of thing alive. For most stuff, we have cheaper, better ways of producing newspapers, whether it's small runs or mass production. But, if you want an authentic look and feel for stuff set during the times that equipment would have been used, the best way is the way it would have been done.
@lenajesse
@lenajesse 11 ай бұрын
I work for a media company and they are planning to move from printed magazines/newspapers to fully digital in the next 5 or so years. Printed media of daily/weekly/monthly publications is dying out... I can just imagine in few decades people looking at a movie and thinking "they're reading news on paper things, this story takes place before 2030's".
@random22026
@random22026 11 ай бұрын
'They are planning...?'
@morpheus636
@morpheus636 11 ай бұрын
@@random22026 Yes. Physical printed media still exists. Most companies are just doing it alongside digital.
@Nolroa
@Nolroa 9 ай бұрын
​@@random22026 Most media transfer their content to digital platforms either on a website, an official account on Social Networks such as Facebook or X or with their own app for smartphones and other smart devices. The development, design and maintenance of such platforms (as they must be constantly updated to post the latest news and in some cases, be the archive of old publications ) costs money.
@SharlzG
@SharlzG 11 ай бұрын
I used to work in the print industry, so I'm quite familiar with this process, but I love to hear that they are still using this traditional process in our digital age. Makes me happy that we are not losing these skills
@slakingfool
@slakingfool 11 ай бұрын
Being an old, long since laid-off newsroom support staffer for The Des Moines Register, this makes me teary eyed. The one thing I enjoyed so much for my first decade with the paper was feeling like a custodian of history.
@Magmafrost13
@Magmafrost13 11 ай бұрын
I can't help but think of that time Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood animated an entire coherent and relevant newspaper page that appeared on screen for maybe a few frames
@jonathan_60503
@jonathan_60503 10 ай бұрын
Somewhere I have a lead cast of my name from the paper in small town my parents grew up in. Visited as a kid and the staff fried up the old machine in the back and made me one to show how things used to be done. Very cool to see how Earl Hays makes the papers
@toweri_li
@toweri_li 11 ай бұрын
@tested - You are aware what took place at 10:40? The leading (thin plate) that dropped from the headline was stuck to the headline - by what? The answer is "typesetters' glue". And what is that, you may ask. Well, it is saliva! Yes, when the form was composed from elements such as this headline, the line separation was accomplished with these thin plates by placing them in-between individiual lines of text. Now, image a 0.3 mm wide metal plate standing on its 0.3 mm wide edge. It will fall over easily! So what the typsetters did was that they spit on the side of the leader plate and press it against the text line. The saliva will "glue" the leader to the text line long enough that the next line can be added without fear that the header will fall. And now, at 10:40 when Adam lifted that old headline from the Case, the "typesetters' glue" finally gave up and the leader fell off. Hope he washed his hands afterwards - and not only because of the lead... (Note: If I am using some incorrect terminology here, that is due to language barrier. I just did a lot of reading to find out the English equivalents for the Finnish terms I know - e.g. 'välike' (leading), 'formu' (form) etc.)
@TheDesktopguy
@TheDesktopguy 11 ай бұрын
Another brilliant episode. Seeing the old galleys and proof press brings me back to when I started my apprenticeship in the late 80s’. They showed us this old tech at the government print shop including the machines that made the Monotype and Linotype slugs. Across the roof were metal splashes from when it sometimes squirted out of the machine during casting the slugs. Glad this is still around. I used to melt down the old metal billets for diving weight belts
@Wolfboy2006
@Wolfboy2006 11 ай бұрын
In America, the newspaper name at the top of the front page of a newspaper is not the "masthead." It's the flag or nameplate. The masthead of an American newspaper is a list of names, such as of the publisher, top staff people, etc., who work for the newspaper. It's usually published on an inside page.
@Jfowler1905
@Jfowler1905 11 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this thank you! I'm still in the industry, 15+ years in and we're now moreso digital but I adore the origin, the artistry, the craft and passion.
@random22026
@random22026 11 ай бұрын
What's in a name
@TheSilverShadow17
@TheSilverShadow17 9 ай бұрын
​@@random22026The significance, history, value etc. Named objects and such are given extra meaning from it.
@dailynator
@dailynator 11 ай бұрын
Keep these coming! The on-screen chemistry and geeking out between these two is incredibly fun to watch.
@terraincognita3749
@terraincognita3749 11 ай бұрын
On the dummy text "Lorem ipsum", I got curious and spent some time exploring its history. It is from a book by the famous Roman politician, orator, lawyer and writer Cicero (1st century BC)! He famously got murdered by Marc Anthony and Octavian (the later Augustus) in the chaos surrounding Caesar's murder. Cicero wrote the book "On the ends of good and evil" in 45 bc. It is a philosophical text, exploring various philosophical traditions and how they see good and evil and the good life. Cicero dedicated the book to Brutus, who one year later would be the most famous of the conspirators who murdered Caesar in 44 bc, on the ides of March. Lorem ipsum comes from the first part of Cicero's book, where we can find the following text (in Latin): "Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet ...". We can recognize lorem ipsum in the words "dolorem ipsum". Translated, I would say the line means "Nor is there anyone who loves pain itself because it is pain ...". The words Dolorem ipsum mean "pain itself". So next time time that you come across the dummy text "lorem ipsum", know that you are reading "pain itself" and that the dummy text is from a philosophical treatise on good and evil written by the famous Roman politician Cicero one year before the murder of Caesar and his own bloody death, and that the treatise was dedicated to Caesar's murderer Brutus. Pretty cool, right? On the origin of using lorem ipsum as a dummy text, there are two main stories about it. One is that this was used since the 1500s, so it was a quite old tradition. Another is that this only started in the 1960s when a British company Letraset used the text as such, and really boomed in the 1980s with the software program Pagemaker providing it as a standard dummy text, making it a standard for desktop publishing. I cannot say which one is the true one, but I lean myself to the latter one. I did not come across any examples of old texts from the 1500s or 1600s using lorem ipsum. Also, there is one especially intriguing and compelling argument for the second origin story: a standard 1914 publication of Cicero's original latin text has the word dolorem split over two pages, so that the latter page starts with "lorem ipsum". I can well imagine someone using this 1914 standard publication to provide a dummy text and simply copied the text from the later page and beyond for it, without bothering to check the previous page. That would explain lorem ipsum instead of the full dolorem ipsum. For more information on lorem ipsum and its possible origins, read this article by Slate: slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/01/lorem-ipsum-history-origins.html
@random22026
@random22026 11 ай бұрын
Always wondered why Office Outlet provided this text in their sample/dummy paper products (book binders et al)--mystery, and especially SOURCE MATERIAL, solved! 👌🏻👍🏻
@alanrogers7090
@alanrogers7090 11 ай бұрын
Sixty years ago, when I was in the Cub Scouts, we visited our last cal newspaper and watched the typist make lead slugs of our names that would later be printed in the newspaper story of our visit. I still have mine at home somewhere.
@tko8218
@tko8218 10 ай бұрын
Just use a regular newspaper. It's essentially fake.
@addisonesslinger3653
@addisonesslinger3653 11 ай бұрын
Christmas Day. Discovery Channel. 12 hours of Myth Busters with the whole crew in their prime. Greatest TV show ever made and happier times. As a bomb technician, I loved the show because you did all the "wonder what would happen " conversations we had on the bomb range.
@stevengeorges9046
@stevengeorges9046 10 ай бұрын
As someone who has worked for newspapers for 45+ years as a photojournalist, I enjoyed the look back into the past. Thank you!
@greencat133
@greencat133 10 ай бұрын
this props guy is fantastic. ive really enjoyed seeing the old catalog of stuff he has pulled off the shelves. its alot of fun
@robertweldon7909
@robertweldon7909 11 ай бұрын
Many of the old "Letter press" machines from the days before modern "off set" are still in use. I ran some of these machines, having been modified for the print finishing industry, to make folders, and other "steel rule" die products. They can be easily reused to do the printing shown here. All you have to do is to reinstall the inking mechanisms. Great little video. ;-)
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian 11 ай бұрын
Letterpress still has a place in the 21st century. I am one of a handful of people still casting “lead” type at home. 👍😀
@Aethelgeat
@Aethelgeat 11 ай бұрын
Adam: "Every time you look over someone's shoulder in a movie, nine out of ten times you're going to be looking at this spread, am I right?" Me [thinking]: Sort of like the Wilhelm scream... Adam a moment later: "This has been like an endless stream of Wilhelm screams." That parallel thought process with Adam was a wonderful and unexpected Christmas gift.
@bikeny
@bikeny 11 ай бұрын
I'll admit that hearing about the Wilhelm Scream in a video about paper stuff caught me by surprise.
@joemedley195
@joemedley195 11 ай бұрын
My dad learned printing in the sixties when workers still had to learn typesetting. I smiled when I saw the blocks of type with string around them. My dad ties up everything like that.
@bwhog
@bwhog 10 ай бұрын
I love printing presses and the mechanical BRILLIANCE of the "linotype" machine.
@morpheus636
@morpheus636 11 ай бұрын
Note that this is NOT how newspapers are made anymore. Everything is designed digitally and then laser etched onto aluminum sheets (4 of them, for CMYK), which are wrapped on rollers so they can put an entire roll of newsprint through and then cut it into papers at the end.
@jasonjavelin
@jasonjavelin 11 ай бұрын
This is so cool! I really like the level of detail that this provides on screen. Also side note: I just got one of your aprons for Christmas from my wife and it’s so awesome! Can’t wait to put it to use!!!!
@arthurcrown3063
@arthurcrown3063 10 ай бұрын
I had a table-top press (the Adana) from 1951 when I was 12 and used it to print letterheads for friends and relatives. Kept it until I went to university in '59. Bought the larger 8x5 and ran this as a hobby for many years, then bought a second-hand British Thompson platen (roughly about same size as the Heidelberg). Still a hobby, but earning good money with it. Hand-set all the type. Eventually sold the machines and 12 cases of metal type, printing blocks etc in 2019, just before Covid struck. Kept copies of everything I printed, and city museum now have them as a record of local history. Retired now. Loved the smell of ink and of the wooden type cases.
@cymeriandesigns
@cymeriandesigns 11 ай бұрын
This was pre-internet: A friend of mine, to win a bet, had a printer typeset and print a fake dictionary page with an incorrect definition of a word. She had bet a guy on the definition and found out she was wrong, so rather than lose, she enlisted a printer with whom she did a lot of business to create the fake. She presented it to the guy as a torn-out page from a dictionary. It was years later that she revealed to him what she had done. He was amused.
@mem1701movies
@mem1701movies 10 ай бұрын
He should’ve gotten a real dictionary
@MidwestFarmToys
@MidwestFarmToys 8 ай бұрын
No
@Voidmonster
@Voidmonster 11 ай бұрын
I've been lucky enough to have a couple of opportunities to make fake documents for a friend's indie projects, and those have been consistently so fun to do I thought someone was gonna come along and tell me to knock it off. Especially the fake newspapers for The Slow Poisoner's Hotrod Worm video. That one gave me latitude to just turn the goofy-weird dial up to 11, and I had complete creative freedom.
@random22026
@random22026 11 ай бұрын
The Slow Poisoner's Hotrod Worm says it all, really
@Voidmonster
@Voidmonster 11 ай бұрын
@@random22026 It truly does.
@missyd0g2
@missyd0g2 11 ай бұрын
Being a nerd I’ve blown up movie newspapers to read them. I was disappointed when the stories were nonsense.
@patrickdiehl6813
@patrickdiehl6813 11 ай бұрын
Extra! Extra! Read all about it!!!! Another great informative video 👍
@giantweevil2737
@giantweevil2737 11 ай бұрын
Seen a Linotype machine in operation in Baltimore, it was awesome to watch an operator who used to type up print for the Baltimore Sun. Awesome video here on how they are still making prop newsprint the same way for nearly 100 years.
@BarryH1701
@BarryH1701 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the old school method like this.
@sherlynparker8263
@sherlynparker8263 11 ай бұрын
Earl Hayes should be declared an historic site by California and never let anyone destroy any part of it
@rivards1
@rivards1 11 ай бұрын
So the owners should never be able to retire, rebuild, retool, or sell. Yep, that's the California way.
@hyun-shik7327
@hyun-shik7327 10 ай бұрын
This was my grandfather's career after he got out of the Navy. He still had lots of printing materials in his home when he died and I have some lead type that spells out my dad and uncle's names.
@VeraTR909
@VeraTR909 11 ай бұрын
This has been a great series, interesting on so many levels!
@doubledrats235
@doubledrats235 11 ай бұрын
My first HD TV had a zoom button on the remote. I could pause the DVR and then zoom in on a newspaper and pan to read it all. It’s fascinating to know how they did this and I never noticed on old broadcast analog television because the resolution was so low. And after watching the entire video I have a hankering for a Smeat sandwich.
@michaelholmes4808
@michaelholmes4808 11 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas Adam and the rest of Tested.
@HelloKittyFanMan
@HelloKittyFanMan 11 ай бұрын
"Hard-pressed (pun intended)," hahaha!
@JohnBare747
@JohnBare747 11 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this series on Earl Hayes' mind boggling props. Happy Holidays Adam and all the Tested bunch, and all who read this...
@toyfreaks
@toyfreaks 11 ай бұрын
I'd love to know if Earl Hayes did the newspaper for the montage in the 1999 Inspector Gadget movie. There's a hidden message expressing some strong feelings toward the production company! You couldn't have caught it in the theater, but I'm sure somebody giggled at the thought of a home viewer freezing on that one frame!
@jirobow
@jirobow 10 ай бұрын
I'd have a field day running around browsing through those cabinets. Can you imagine how good they must feel on your hand?
@deltatango5765
@deltatango5765 11 ай бұрын
This was especially interesting to me because, I love everything to do with making movies. For that reason, I always freeze frame movie and TV scenes where you can see the newspaper well enough to read the headlines (you can very rarely read the smaller print), just to try to figure out exactly the secrets that were revealed here. Now I know what I've been looking at! As a side note, you didn't go into the type of paper used. I noticed that in movies and TV shows, when the light is right and the page is held at certain angles, the paper has a slight "shine" to it, meaning a smoother surface, so obviously not news print, but most likely something a little more durable.
@Kevbo4
@Kevbo4 10 ай бұрын
I started in newspaper layout and production in the early 90s so am delighting in seeing the classic broadsheet sizes.
@markherd3116
@markherd3116 11 ай бұрын
As Spock would say, "fascinating". All I can see is Batman/naked gun spinning newspapers. :)
@dsolosan
@dsolosan 11 ай бұрын
I've used their newspapers in countless stage shows. It's always fun to make up a prop based on the era and needs of the show. We'd reuse them until they were too beat up to work anymore. Actors will ultimately destroy any prop you hand them; some times it takes just seconds!
@kensherwin4544
@kensherwin4544 11 ай бұрын
Just last week I discovered for the nth time just how fast a few actors can destroy the entire set.
@dsolosan
@dsolosan 11 ай бұрын
@@kensherwin4544 At my theatre, it's slamming doors. Even if the scene doesn't call for it, when they exit, they want all eyes on them. Slam! Until they slam it so hard that it won't open for their next entrance!
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 11 ай бұрын
Seems like a great business model for Earl Hays. If all the props are destroyed you have to buy new ones!
@dsolosan
@dsolosan 11 ай бұрын
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Do you think the actors are getting kickbacks to destroy my props??? I've never thought of that before...
@leetempleton9119
@leetempleton9119 11 ай бұрын
This has been a fascinating series at Earl Hayes
@Merescat
@Merescat 11 ай бұрын
I was the pressman on a King, 6 unit, 4 color, web press, right out of high school, for 5 years. Not as old as this, but I still love newsprint. Great stuff! 😀
@ReedCBowman
@ReedCBowman 11 ай бұрын
Wow, something in propmaking I actually know more about than Adam. Adam would be a great enthuser to get a tour of a normal old-style letterpress shop. Or a monotype or linotype typecaster. They do still exist. There are even a few of the production model typecasters from American Type Founders still running under the care of a few mad geniuses.
@bikeny
@bikeny 11 ай бұрын
I'd have suggested you reach out to Tom Scott but alas his video series (I think it's been 10 years) is ending this week. He has gone bopping around the world to different places and showing everybody all sorts of thing we never knew about but were thrilled to learn about. For all I know, he did visit such a shop prior to me subscribing to his channel, so I will have to search it to see what comes up. Good idea, thank you.
@markbecker697
@markbecker697 10 ай бұрын
Learned how to set type some 50 years ago while a senior in high school. I was writing sports for the local weekly as as aand was told to learn the business. Learned how to operate a linotype machine, set the type, set the pages up, etc. Also worked i the pig room, making bars of lead to set type. Melted down the old type and poured into pigs for use on the linotype machines. Very hot work in an non-air conditioned room. It was an art and learned from two employees who had done ifor 50 years and another for 60 plus years.
@JustinThomas-hz6tz
@JustinThomas-hz6tz 11 ай бұрын
Yeah… this ol’ local newspaper boy geeked out on what’s happening here… fantastic episode.
@mittensfastpaw
@mittensfastpaw 10 ай бұрын
That is a nifty piece of history to touch!
@andrewparkin4036
@andrewparkin4036 11 ай бұрын
Pure genius how those papers are done, truly fascinating. Thank you for this.
@BlackStar250874
@BlackStar250874 8 ай бұрын
Movies are so big part of my life, so seeing props like these is amazing. I have sometimes wondered too who makes these newspapers that you see.. Thanks Adam!
@EposVox
@EposVox 11 ай бұрын
This stuff is AWESOME
@guitarcheology
@guitarcheology 11 ай бұрын
I had a now retired Earl Hayes employee teach me how to make prop license plates. They made 80% of the prop plates used in productions since the late 60’s.
@RobBulmahn
@RobBulmahn 11 ай бұрын
I disagree with the assertion that it couldn't be replicated faster in Photoshop, but it's still really cool that it's all done the old-fashioned way with an actual printing press.
@patriciate
@patriciate 11 ай бұрын
This has been an excellent journey through the production of news papers for the movies, I'm so amazed, thank you. I love production and your videos, thank you too Michel.
@allenfitz1
@allenfitz1 11 ай бұрын
I worked for an Envelope manufacturer here in mi. We never used that type of press but I used to run machines that were built in 1946. Wonderful experence. I also ren a printer from the late 50s early 60s that used a rubber printing plate
@dpastor6631
@dpastor6631 11 ай бұрын
Now with 2K and 4K, we can freeze the frame and read these papers...
@VideoNOLA
@VideoNOLA 10 ай бұрын
Even on old Three Stooges shorts from the 1930s, you can freeze-frame on close-ups of newspapers, and the stories almost seem to come from events of that time. Surely the producers of such films never counted on us being able to zoom in at high resolution to see what was written. But it's fun to try!
@DynamicSeq
@DynamicSeq 11 ай бұрын
yeahhh... Let's go ahead and film some more @ that place.... Thanks
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 11 ай бұрын
My granddad started his career as a typesetter in the early 30's, learning manually, and the newspaper he worked for aquired some variety of hot-type machine when he demobbed in '46. When he retired in the early 80's, he'd been working with computerised typesetting for a while.
@bikeny
@bikeny 11 ай бұрын
Demobbed. Well, there's a word I learned today.
@FUGP72
@FUGP72 11 ай бұрын
I have never seen this in any movie newspapers. But if it is true, and it is just this one inside page used over and over again, they could at least take the time to have ACTUAL fake articles. Ones that don't repeat paragraphs over and over again. It is more understandable if they are making a fake newspaper for one quick shot in one movie. But if you are expecting it to be used over and over again in the age of high definition and easy freeze framing, put a little more effort into it.
@Lylantz
@Lylantz 10 ай бұрын
Now this is where using AI actually wouldn't be a bad idea..
@robert-brydson-1
@robert-brydson-1 10 ай бұрын
a printable PDF link for the papers sections would be fun
@douglasbrandt4068
@douglasbrandt4068 11 ай бұрын
I grew up in the printing industry, so this was 🥰🥰🥰
@GlitchSystem-xf7jb
@GlitchSystem-xf7jb 11 ай бұрын
I worked at a lead smelter for 7 years. We a lot of times would get "scrape" lead to melt down. One time we got a couple of steal drums full of printing press letters. One time we got a BIG box of scrap and in it (because we had to go through it to look for aluminum because aluminum and lead don't mix) was a beautiful beer stein that had horse's on it. But it was made of lead and we had to melt it
@Sgt-Gravy
@Sgt-Gravy 11 ай бұрын
As a media artist & old news paper guy I cherished this video. I just wished I could've seen the behemoth run.
@JustLocal
@JustLocal 11 ай бұрын
I learned lead typesetting at the art academy, but with lead letters and copper plates (Pica). After that I understood the software much better! Thanks for this contribution and happy holidays!
@Moola868
@Moola868 11 ай бұрын
I'm kinda surprised streaming and just the general simplicity of being able to pause and skip frame by frame through a show or movie hasn't affected these kinds of "looks real but is actually nonsense" props.
@QJI394
@QJI394 11 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that newspapers in movies are made of vinyl to help the sound department. How true is this?
@Over60goalie
@Over60goalie 11 ай бұрын
Received the Back to the Future newspaper a few days ago from EHP. It's amazing!!!!
@HelloKittyFanMan
@HelloKittyFanMan 11 ай бұрын
Pretty cool! I hope you guys had a great Christmas! 🎄🎅
@iniom
@iniom 11 ай бұрын
What are the "Kubrick's bathroom instructions" referenced at 8:30?
@garbo8962
@garbo8962 11 ай бұрын
When I first started at a big newspaper 35 years ago they still had a proof reader and a person in the plate room until last paper was delivered to the mailroom. Can remember them holding the presses a hour for important events like the Miss America local late playoff games etc but stopped. They were supposed to perform a stop lift ( stop one press at a time and install new plates with latest news ) but would hold off to save a dollar God forbid in overtime. Had to love when they purchased trailer loads of newsprint at a good price. They received a few 3000# rolls of newsprint ( paper ) from Russia. Was about average quality. Then they received trailer loads of garbage Russian newsprint that was only fit to wrap fish in. Had to run rolls around 70% of normal speed or steel hubs broke or started smoking. All of the vendors hated gannett because they always wanted things for free.
@josephluizdeborba
@josephluizdeborba 10 ай бұрын
Wow!! Cool stuff! I risk to say that those newspapers, used in movies, may contain more true and interesting things, than some of the newspapers we read today...
@sbatou87
@sbatou87 8 ай бұрын
I'm sure there's another component: the paper itself. IIRC, studios now want "silent" paper so the foleys can create the right sounds. Though, this might be done on site.
@jameshiggins-thomas9617
@jameshiggins-thomas9617 11 ай бұрын
I do enjoy the wrap up to 27 Dresses where the camera pans from image to image in a newspaper (for the credits). The "stories" were custom (with some lorem fillers), to the story, but replicated so you see the same story (with different layout) again and again. Still, fun and effective.
@random22026
@random22026 11 ай бұрын
Ah. 'Lorem fillers'
@blackdra2000
@blackdra2000 11 ай бұрын
So with tech being as it is, how do you handle digital media side of things? Is there a digital version of the news paper that used for film , where the person look at the news, etc...
@markdecker6190
@markdecker6190 11 ай бұрын
I'm sure that a standard offset press could handle short runs of digital files, or even a production level xerographic laser or inkjet continuous form printer with a wide enough paper size capacity could produce newspapers. However as mentioned in the video they would have to spend a lot of time designing the file to make it look old. You could I suppose use a flatbed inkjet printer as well.
@blackdra2000
@blackdra2000 11 ай бұрын
@@markdecker6190 agreed, but I'm more thinking about , for example, you see a actor reading a digital newspaper from an iPad or some futuristic prop. Will they digitize the fake news and re use it on a digital format.
@markdecker6190
@markdecker6190 11 ай бұрын
Oh I see. I would imagine that unless they strike a deal on the copywritten content, perhaps a product placement agreement, that they'd have to make something up. Anyone who's competent with Adobe Suite or Microsoft Publisher for that matter should be able to mock up a realistic looking online newspaper.@@blackdra2000
@random22026
@random22026 11 ай бұрын
They certainly have PLENTY of practice digitizing fake news@@blackdra2000
@chacondetunaerma
@chacondetunaerma 11 ай бұрын
10:46 the spanish label
@random22026
@random22026 11 ай бұрын
10:46 The typeface Lucky Dip: THEY'VE GOT SCIENCE ON THEIR BRAINS Finally, truth in advertising
@TheGoodestBrandon
@TheGoodestBrandon 11 ай бұрын
That's so cool! Thanks for this one especially! You answered an age old question of mine
@gwsound
@gwsound 11 ай бұрын
This is so cool. As formal newspaper publisher I love this
@michaelbyrne8238
@michaelbyrne8238 8 ай бұрын
Naked Gun 3 newspaper: "Dyslexia for cure found"
@undefined40
@undefined40 11 ай бұрын
In my youth there was the "Omni" magazine shown in plenty of the movies (and shows?) of that time. I assume that was also an Earl Hays invention?
@adamsimmons631
@adamsimmons631 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you so much
@mutfol
@mutfol 10 ай бұрын
Pause the video at 5:24 and read the articles. Much better written than most things printed today...
@michaelcroteau5919
@michaelcroteau5919 8 ай бұрын
You can see that one page - Ed O’Neill read it twice. Once on Married and again on Modern.
@lordeisschrank
@lordeisschrank 10 ай бұрын
does anyone know where that yellow company logo at 7:50 is from?
@joshuaw711
@joshuaw711 11 ай бұрын
If I recall correctly, the Chesterton Tribune was still using this method until they closed at the end of 2020.
@borkmcfink
@borkmcfink 11 ай бұрын
I did graphic design for UK TV show recently which required quite a few newspapers. I used Indesign and Photoshop to lay them out from scratch, AI to write the articles, (based on headlines I was given by the researcher) stock photos for the images and then printed the pages onto newsprint using a dodgy HP inkjet printer. It was an incredibly time consuming process. This way would have been much quicker (it was mostly due to budget constraints and the fact we don't really have a specialist company like this in the UK that it wasnt done this way)
@Richard_K1630
@Richard_K1630 11 ай бұрын
Did they print "The Los Angeles Chronicle" often seen in movies and TV?
@bernadmanny
@bernadmanny 10 ай бұрын
I like the newspapers in Wes Anderson films, you can read the articles which are written in their entirety.
@nunyabidness117
@nunyabidness117 10 ай бұрын
I was watching a film noir a few weeks back and paused on a close up frame of a newspaper headline. The headline and first 2 paragraphs related to the plot but from the 3rd paragraph on it was just standard words compiled into nonsensical paragraphs.
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