How fast does Nick Krush REALLY throw?

This was filmed the day after our comp. This is Nick's first time throwing into a net with a Tech Disc. HUGE shoutout to Tech Disc for always making things like this possible, and stay tuned to Nick's channel for the PRs to keep on coming. He MIGHT just have his own Tech Disc now :) ALSO, if you want to know how I did in the distance competition, check his channel out tomorrow, where we recap the event in detail!
He MAY have thrown 78 on radar at some point. MAYBE.
Oh and if you catch the easter egg at the end of the video, comment and let me know how my 360 looks!
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[@brandonstevens1832]

I've always overlooked the standstill throw in favor of run-ups and never did I think it was viable for me to learn a standstill until destroying my knee a few months back. Now that it's healed, I've gotten most of my inspiration from your channel and your smooth, simplified form. Are your top throws much faster with a walk-up vs. without? Thanks again for the videos. I keep my ads on for your videos.

[@BlitzDG]

Appreciate that brother. My current top throws are just above 75 mph standstill! Exactly like I teach in my standstill tutorial part 1.

[@kserres]

that 360 at the very end. impressive ;)

[@adamhinton807]

Definitely yes on the coaching video!

[@MattRobertsonDG]

I’ve been waiting sooo long for this 😂

[@NickCarroll]

I was thinking about how you (Blitz) use Tech Disc a lot, and over the year or so you've been using it, you've been able to dial in a lot of metrics because of it. Whereas Nick hasn't used a Tech Disc, and mostly throws out in a field. 1) Nick might want to visualize lines he would throw, through the net, and just throw. He might be unintentionally correcting what he's doing because he's looking at the net. Also there's a different learning and adjustment pattern between real world flight lines and tuning metrics without the visuals of seeing the disc in flight. 2) I think there's a lot of carryover from making corrections based on Tech Disc, out into a field, or on a course, even though it's probably best to fine tune out there. But I think the TD provides a surprisingly good base. (at least surprising to me) 3) Likewise there's probably a lot of carryover from throwing in real life, to using the TD. Nick's obviously crushing it with these throws, but he probably has only modest levels of tweaking to do in order to get better numbers out of it. And it would be interesting to see how that translates in the real world. 4) I don't know if there's video of the Kayak Point distance competition but I suspect the sheer amount of time Nick spent out on a field, as well as tuning his throws over time, were key to his success there. 5) Blitz had better standstill performance and Nick better walk-up performance. Nick's best performances were with the 360. I think it shows Blitz has more potential if he nails down the walk-up and 360, but I think having such a solid standstill base has merits. It may be so good that he may not be able to eek out much more in distance, but it may also show that standstill is underrated for distance. Nick is relatively light and lithe so may have more distance potential from movement than Blitz, who is more built and stocky. Just stuff to think about. I loved the video! 😁

[@BlitzDG]

Nick definitely outpaces me in pure field throws. His distance lines are WAY better than mine. Tech Disc is only a tool.

[@NickCarroll]

@@BlitzDG I love the crossover aspects between the TD and fieldwork. Looking forward to Nick's video too!

[@luftisbollen]

you should compare speed with math vs tech disc, and see how accurate it is. i like this format, more coach should show there speed like this and also some slowmotions would be nice 👍 and compare to pros like celvin heimburg or anthony barella..

[@brendan3670]

Nick krush is awesome

[@slap2go]

My farthest throws on tech disc are from a 0° to 1° balance of launch angle to nose angle. 5° launch and -4° to -5° nose is good. 0° launch and °1 nose is good too

[@BlitzDG]

Launch + Nose = 6 is a solid starting point for distance throwing. You are too low.

[@slap2go]

@@BlitzDG I am not sure if the algorithm changed or I misremembered.i remember looking at the first pro's data and determine what it took to register long throws. I did lose interest in the device when distance seemingly dropped for no reason. Maybe I missed a change. I'll try again with your suggestion, thanks

[@OutThereImages]

Clint what are you doing to get those nose down angles? Super impressive !

[@TwoOneSe7en]

Here to ask the same thing. I’ve thrown 430, 452, 460, 475 at my best, but not common. For the life of me, I could ‘t get a negative nose angle on the tech disc I tried. 🫤

[@BlitzDG]

Do swirly bird into throws relaxed and tell me what happens to your nose angle. It’s not a trick it’s just letting things happen as they happen without tension. It’s the pronation, supination, elbow drop, external rotation of the shoulder, shrugging that jacks people up. I don’t think I’ve ever had someone do swirly bird into throws and throw nose up that way. It’s only when you try to override the leg power that you have issues. You gotta follow it and let the elbow open on plane. I call it opening the gate.

[@OutThereImages]

@@BlitzDG Thank you for the very thoughtful and helpful response! It makes sense and I’ll use that my next Tech Disc sesh and report back.

[@OkieTradez]

i figured out how to get the nose down by putting the disc into my hand and it being able to rest on my fingers without my thumb supporting it with a nose down angle and when i put my thumb on it the disc needs to stay nose down and boom saucer

[@norwoodgolf8]

About the 360 at the end...Visionary sells a 22' wide net that might have caught that throw. 😉

[@ks-pg5sh]

Which of the TechDisc molds are you guys using?

[@BlitzDG]

Force is yellow. Destroyer is Lime!

[@price.gaines]

Don’t know what his typical speeds are but here’s my guesses: Standstill: 68 X-step: 72 360: 75

[@luftisbollen]

i was thinking 70 80 90 for crush and 74 70 70 fot blitz

[@norwoodgolf8]

Hey, is this at Central Park in Issaquah?

[@BlitzDG]

Indeed!

[@disc-golf-neil]

@NickKrush.DGandFit if you do another sesh and want to try some nose down cues that worked for me with the tech disc, it would be interesting to see if you get similar results! Any time I get nose up when turning the key, I use the cue: keep the pronation longer into the pull through so that turning the key happens more on the way out of the pocket instead of on the way into the pocket. When I see something like +5 nose up and then I do that, I often get -4, -6, or -8 right after, but that's because I've had nose up with turning the key too early many times before. The timing keeps slipping and getting too early and I have to keep doing this. My best guess for what's happening there for me is when I hit the end of turning the key too earl there's some rebound back in the other direction just before the hit because it's hard to dynamically finish supinating then just pause and hold it there without anything else happening. The other cue that had the biggest nose down results for me was an exaggerated inverted swoop: exaggerated low reach back with an initial pull through along that reach back angle but then curve the pull through to level it out more at the end.

[@BlitzDG]

I think all of this is compensation for swing path issues.

[@disc-golf-neil]

@@BlitzDG the second one I mentioned is literally a swing path adjustment. The exaggeration part to initially try it would be over compensation to start of course but otherwise it’s just actually adjusting the path. Turn the key can be done in either case tho so I wouldn’t recommend it to an average player who has a massive swoop air bounce swing path, I’m assuming that’s more what you’re getting at? A perfect swing path can produce quite a bit of nose up still with just a bit of last second pronation as well I think.

[@BlitzDG]

Yeah I think most people have nose up from elbow drop/shrugging/external shoulder rotation at the hit, AKA not letting the elbow open freely to snap the disc out. We don't want any kind of swoops if we can help it. If you have a perfect swing path there is no need to pronate. The disc is going to be pulling your elbow open on plane and you would have to try to change it's path to have that issue.

[@disc-golf-neil]

@@BlitzDG I agree for the most part, my point about pronation wasn't that you should do it, it's the opposite. It's just an example that even with a perfect swing path a single small problem can negate all the nose benefits of the swing path and so you might still need to supinate more whether static or dynamic. I'm assuming that by swing path you mean more of the whole arm motion, because you can have the same overall arm swing motion but have wrist adjustments within that (more / less wrist curl or pronation or supination). I think a mild inverted swoop is fairly common among pros though. Their elbow starts lower during reachback and is then raised higher as they come into the pocket, so as the elbow is raised the hand is raised up with it (the hand can still remain lower than elbow though from internal rotation) but this raising of the elbow results in a non-straight line pull through like Ezra A demonstrates with exaggeration in his 'nosy' video.

[@BlitzDG]

I totally get what you’re saying and mean no disrespect. I just think actively supinating or pronating is a bandaid that will just have you fighting nose forever. You are certainly not the only one who preaches it! There are a billion people who use complex swing planes, they just aren’t what I teach or believe is best!

[@MrSlowrolla]

How did you get the results read out?

[@blueshiftt]

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[@KhufuhK]

I also throw worse into a net. I don't know what it is

[@BlitzDG]

Pretty normal for the first week or 2 for everyone. I sent him home with one so the beast is coming :)

[@kazenix87]

Throwing into a net always gets in my head vs throwing in a field