How GenG Prove VIPER IS STILL OVERPOWERED!

[@soundcloutking303]

Waiting for a team to bring back the real swamp comp on this map. Harbor is crazy underrated in the current map pool.

[@hardik7696]

Loud will

[@Maratshechenko]

​@@hardik7696loud ain't making champs

[@mikeyfreeman5776]

Harbor will be most played controller after they nerf omen

[@MilaneseMoon]

No, no he aint 😂😂 that boi dookie

[@Dinmc123]

Tbf, prx picked habor and lost to geng

[@hogiepogie4]

Lakia deserves credit for how efficient he is with the Skye util, especially on the Defense side.

[@espada1123]

he has stepped up massively compared to madrid

[@heaventsentsaint]

tmv when r u oiling up

[@whereami.]

Honestly, the meta this year with significantly less Skye and Viper has been pretty interesting, I kinda hope Viper doesn’t see a massive resurgence with Abyss or anything

[@vinayakchaudhary2502]

viper is so good on abyss, idk why no have played her yet

[@tali.rafi.a]

instead of viper being used in abyss, its the ascent comp with cypher replacing the kj (so far) lmaoooo💀💀💀

[@vinayakchaudhary2502]

@@tali.rafi.a yeah fr lol, ig fade can replace sova on this map but those shock dart going to be so powerful because everyone will be playing for post plant spam....atp riot employees are just brainless

[@Dunkndosentz]

I don’t see face getting play on abyss, not really any good vertical haunt spots compared to the insane number of recon darts sova offers

[@funkycrawler619]

@@vinayakchaudhary2502 Cause one Sentinel really defeats the purpose of Viper on that map lol and unironically the map is TOO big for a static wall and orb. Harbor def should be seen more.

[@illuminoeye_gaming]

also important to remember that GenG players do not miss shots

[@MATRIX42exe]

Riot it feels like is not nerfing Viper just making her more klunky to play an require more and more precise timings which is just annoying to play and is frustrating. I think how nerfing viper without rendering her unplayable is very hard because of the nature of the agent. I would suggest to change her fuel(-economy) by A) increasing her fuel amount to a really high max like in total 30s or something like that but change her regaining fuel over time to it starts to recharge when she has no fuel left or next to none. Or B) Increase her fuel capacity to somewhere around 40-45s but thats all you have for the round. Ofcourse you had to change her mollies mabey back but with a bit less time on them and change that orb and wall together do use more fuel but not much just a bit more.

[@bruhidkanymore6584]

I hate playing viper now. Her toxins go away so fast and only one molly. Now I play more omen/astra

[@unteejo3678]

Just let viper be able to pick up the smoke.

[@herpothefoul9606]

viper isnt the problem, skye is

[@wezzco_br8169]

Using the phantom as viper is so deadly. People come out of your smokes with at least -30hp.

[@ayayasussy3576]

Viper still good what a shocker ResidentSleeper 💤

[@valorantranting7504]

I can live with the wall and orb nerf but removing one molly and increasing the price that just killed it

[@michaeltracy9932]

speaking of geng…

[@hoyahead9930]

For gods sake please no more viper nerfs! At this point just rework her ffs. Until shes literally useless with a 5s wall uptime, will she never not be used by pros

[@The_Professional_Hobbiest]

The comp looks promising but DRX got aim diffed for sure, very interested to see this against international teams

[@zolkaa6618]

Its not a new comp. It has been the 2nd most picked comp when haven was last in the map pool the only thing that changes is a nerfs to viper and skye

[@tolgacam1907]

no viper isnt overpowered anymore thinking gold 2 valorant

[@Wren02]

I wanna see the mibr double sentinel game 😂

[@theophilosklonaris4859]

In your opinion is Viper just good on every map for her ability to create pressure via uncertainty?

[@gamist8166]

That feeling when we want design to change and not numbers.. :( (reyna too)

[@blurryalex]

Okay, but you have to realize, Vipers pick rate has significantly gone down from 88% to 35-40%. Why has there been no talk about Omen and his high pick rate of 89%? Vipers already difficult to play in ranked properly, at what point do we stop nerfing an agent just for pro play? Fix the other controllers rather than tank one agent. Haven is just a good map for Viper if she's used properly. She's had enough adjustments this year, she's not overpowered in the SLIGHTEST anymore. I rarely see Vipers in my ranked games (gold/plat lobbies).

[@hoyahead9930]

Omen likely hasn't seen any nerfs because he has one of the lowest win rates in ranked. It's like ~45% IIRC.

[@zolkaa6618]

Omen is prob the most balanced agent in the game rn. The other controllers who fill a similar role (astra/brim/maybe clove) are just too weak. And no offense but pickeate in gold/plat lobbyes doesnt mean anything. If it meant something then reyna would be the best agent in the game

[@aihsur]

riot has more measurable metrics than you could imagine, no offense to you but your subjective experience of what’s good or not in gold and plat means nothing. clove is a perfect example of it, she has the highest win rate of any agent in lower ranks while is virtually unpicked in pro play, and just a sidenote, she got nerfed because of how she was playing in your ranks. if riot changes agents it’s because the data from every single player says so

[@hoyahead9930]

@@zolkaa6618 I think he's referring to pro play pick rate

[@zolkaa6618]

@@hoyahead9930 he said he barely sees viper in his ranked games. if was referring to that. and viper had the 3rd highest pick rate of any agent in americas stage 2

[@dawsoncat6252]

tmv stop calling viper good you're gonna make riot nerf her again :(

[@antoinebonzon6151]

Aha yeah let us all start saying "oh she is so bad", "bouh Viper!", "you suck Viper!"

[@nonsense0000]

Man i wish tmv watch today games, it was fun😂

[@EC-rk2zl]

Overpowered is the last thing i'll call Viper. Ultimate aside, I havent seen a single Viper in any of my Gold 2 to Plat 2 games all season. With the sole exception of when I happen to duo with my friend (who used to one trick her, but rarely plays her himself these days)

[@roy7670]

He's talking about pro play not solo queue/ranked

[@EC-rk2zl]

@roy7670 OK then, let's ignore ranked. In pro play. Omen now has a 88-89% pick rate. Almost doubling Vipers 45-48%. Let's nerf Omen to the ground then

[@ArkbladeIX]

​@@EC-rk2zlnobody's asking for viper nerfs because of pro play tho

[@roy7670]

@@EC-rk2zl Oooh I see what you did now. You took the title a little too literally. No one's asking for viper to be nerfed so idk why you brought that up. The title is just there to get people to click, in the actual video he never actually said or thought viper is overpowered.

[@yourbelovedautumn]

viper is very strong, you're just not using her correctly to properly make use of her broken kit

[@chris-lh6ol]

Walls are very effrctive but if deployed incorrectly can be disastorous. Viper ensures that all walls deployed are perfect whilst harbour not so much since perfrct walls require u to be at a specific place which cannot always be achieved

[@critterval]

he was waiting to make this vid, the notorious viper glazer from england

[@prakharchaurasiya8107]

Look at Omen's pick rate in all the regions for Stage 2, he needs a nerf asap

[@IkanTuna-dl7wc]

it's not viper's fault, haven is just sucks

[@agentkartoffel4136]

4.

[@xafter828]

Geng officially have no real competition in the apac region

[@effluxi9587]

okay so when they making the fuel changes she clearly needs instead?

[@emzed33]

wdym they just nerfed her wall/orb uptime by 20% literally 3 months ago, she's already pretty hard to play in ranked now

[@sikanderalibazil3794]

​@emzed33 maybe they mean like changing the way the fuel works. Personally, I'd nerf chamber tho.

[@effluxi9587]

@@emzed33 that's the point, sorry for not being clear They need to fully rework fuel so they can safely revert it for ranked whilst making it worse in Pro.

[@yuuwrld6896]

She really good in highly coordinated team play. But if they need her she’ll be shit in ranked bc no one plays together

[@deadsec5970]

Prx is better tmv

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