How good actually was Eden Hazard?

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@homosapien5156
@homosapien5156 Жыл бұрын
Absolute legend. Pure magic. Fell in love with him when I heard him saying in an interview that he is never going to sacrifice everything else in life for football. Football is an important part of life but it is not his entire life. There are other important things in life as well. Life must be lived as a whole not lived with a myopic goal of being the best player in the world. Pure enjoyment. Pure fun. Thank you legend.
@JodyShortt
@JodyShortt Жыл бұрын
We shouldn’t compare everyone’s longevity to Messi and Ronaldo, we should appreciate these mercurial players who only have a real prime of 3 or 4 seasons
@Siimooon02
@Siimooon02 Жыл бұрын
He did have more Than 3-4 season Prime 7-8
@jamesgolightly5320
@jamesgolightly5320 Жыл бұрын
He was amazing for Lille too
@rohithraman6488
@rohithraman6488 9 ай бұрын
Exactly what I've been thinking. As lucky as we've been to have watched Ronaldo and Messi over the years, I feel like they have made us think that a player's prime should be 10 years or more but that isn't always the case. Even some of the greats like Ronaldinho, Henry and Kaka didn't have a 10 year period when they had a peak if you get what I mean. Henry's was from 2000-06, Ronaldinho was from 2002-06, Kaka was from 2003-09
@newrecruit100
@newrecruit100 Жыл бұрын
The idea and notion that Hazard wasn’t consistent has to be biggest myth ever
@BSMAG87
@BSMAG87 Жыл бұрын
No, it really doesn't. I'm a Chelsea fan, and as they touched on, he literally took a year off in the 2015-16 season. He almost went totally missing, and if he hadn't had the nonchalant attitude, he would have been head and shoulders the best every season for that 4-5 year run. He was that good. I remember reading a big press feature on him when he first signed that had a story about how he'd run away from training as a kid and they'd find him up in a tree, just chilling, and that was the guy Eden Hazard was. He was so laidback and I think that had an impact. One can only wonder what might have been if he'd had the professionalism of say a CR7 or Frank Lampard. That said, one of the greatest the Prem has ever seen and one of the top 5 players ever to pull a Chelsea shirt on
@kamran1072
@kamran1072 Жыл бұрын
@@BSMAG87 He played through a hip injury in 15/16 which everyone conveniently leaves out. That was the biggest injury he had at Chelsea and he should've been kept out for much longer but the team was struggling without him and he was rushed back. This idea that he was just lazy in 15/16 is complete nonsense.
@newrecruit100
@newrecruit100 Жыл бұрын
@@BSMAG87 wait so you’re using, one year where he was playing pretty much injured throughout as a mark against his consistency? So forget the other 10 years? Let’s be serious for a second.
@jimmyohare8116
@jimmyohare8116 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's utterly crazy. There was 15 games in 2015 where he was rubbish but the 6 years before that and the 4 years after he was unplayable. It's insane.
@SRNation10
@SRNation10 Жыл бұрын
Top player. Made you get off your seat, could make anything happen at any instant in the game. Pure Magic, football will miss him.
@TheLorddrifter
@TheLorddrifter Жыл бұрын
Coming from a United fan, comfortably the best player in a Chelsea shirt, maybe even someone who defined wing-play! What a joy he was to watch. Made the league better!
@couturecriminal8330
@couturecriminal8330 Жыл бұрын
Comfortably not at all did Lampard,Terry,Drogba,Cech,Cole never played for Chelsea Give your head a shake will ya👀 Focus on your club melon.😑👌
@couturecriminal8330
@couturecriminal8330 Жыл бұрын
Comfortably not at all did Lampard,Terry,Drogba,Cech,Cole never played for Chelsea Give your head a shake will ya👀 Focus on your club melon.😑👌
@Maj1794
@Maj1794 Жыл бұрын
Prime hazard was unstoppable
@ankurm4100
@ankurm4100 Жыл бұрын
I will have him in my all time Premier League XI and Chelsea XI for sure.. what a joy to watch. Same league as Bergkamp, Zola and Ginola from the bygone era.
@mattborman5780
@mattborman5780 Жыл бұрын
The video title suggests that there's an argument to be had about how good he "actually" was. The clickbait quality of the video title doesn't do the player justice. For anyone who followed football from 2011-2019, there's no question. Whoever titled the video knows this as well.
@Beesplitz
@Beesplitz Жыл бұрын
Perfect video, great to see people rightfully judge and appreciate Eden as a player and as a human being.
@oussamachraibi1787
@oussamachraibi1787 Жыл бұрын
Simply the best in PML’S history … without looking for . 1
@davarjos
@davarjos Жыл бұрын
Hazard was born to do it
@latestfootballnewsdaily828
@latestfootballnewsdaily828 Жыл бұрын
Where did these guys learn that Ronaldo was a LWer at United? That's poor journalism. Cos I still remember Ronaldo at United played predominantly on the RW
@AnonNomad
@AnonNomad Жыл бұрын
The defining player of Abramovich-Chelsea, more so than Drogba imo.
@Flipmode1900
@Flipmode1900 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's mental. More titles, won the CL. Just no
@AnonNomad
@AnonNomad Жыл бұрын
@@Flipmode1900 Purely subjective ofc.
@shaqtaku
@shaqtaku Жыл бұрын
The stars that burn the brightest also burn the shortwst
@hulkingmass
@hulkingmass Жыл бұрын
Very good
@Never_Wr0ng
@Never_Wr0ng Жыл бұрын
Doubt Sanchez will get the same reception who did as much as Hazard did in a far worse Arsenal side.
@OneKatPowerTrip
@OneKatPowerTrip Жыл бұрын
I agree that Hazard was the best player in the Prem in 2014-15 and 2016-17 but Van Dijk was the best player in 2018-19 c'mon Michael Cox.
@latestfootballnewsdaily828
@latestfootballnewsdaily828 Жыл бұрын
No, u might have forgotten but that 18/19 season was even Hazard best season. He was unplayable that year. His final year before leaving for madrid
@OneKatPowerTrip
@OneKatPowerTrip Жыл бұрын
@@latestfootballnewsdaily828 I mean VVD literally won Prem and PFA player's player of the season awards along with the UEFA player of the year despite Hazard's brilliance in the Europa league final
@latestfootballnewsdaily828
@latestfootballnewsdaily828 Жыл бұрын
@@OneKatPowerTrip with all due respect, the best of Hazard cannot be compared to VVD. It's an insult
@OneKatPowerTrip
@OneKatPowerTrip Жыл бұрын
@@latestfootballnewsdaily828 yes it's an insult to VVD's greatness that season as VVD was the best Prem and footballer in Europe. Btw VVD is now 32 yers old so you really cannot compare who has had better longevity and greatness in the sport.
@WopWopWopWopW
@WopWopWopWopW Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest winger? Chelsea one of the greatest midfielder? Chelsea one of the greatest Center back? Chelsea one of the greatest left back? Chelsea. just need to get a consistent striker and a non injured James to have the last 2
@wagwanbennydj6003
@wagwanbennydj6003 Жыл бұрын
Bale > hazard
@franklingoodwin
@franklingoodwin Жыл бұрын
Hazard was great, but not as great as he could've been. As great as he was, he had the potential to be the heir to the Messi/Ronaldo throne, but didn't take it because he didn't want it enough
@stu8758
@stu8758 Жыл бұрын
An unstoppable talent hindered by no mental discipline
@blairgroove1302
@blairgroove1302 Жыл бұрын
First view, first comment
@ttslider2957
@ttslider2957 Жыл бұрын
👏
@yuni360
@yuni360 Жыл бұрын
Salah is a far superior player by any measures
@MaZaCar_Xiaoyu
@MaZaCar_Xiaoyu Жыл бұрын
You started watching football in 2017 so your opinion is irrelevant.
@yuni360
@yuni360 Жыл бұрын
@@MaZaCar_Xiaoyu I actually started watching football in 2002 😀 so your opinion is irrelevant
@Izak43
@Izak43 Жыл бұрын
He was very good on his day, but never really did much in the Champions League, and he was not the most consistent. His standout seasons you could put up with anyone, but he would go missing some games or almost all of 2015/16. In terms of Premier League legacy I suppose he’s up there with the likes of someone like Pires, but someone like Mane, Giggs, or Ronaldo, there is a level of consistency and driven greatness that he perhaps lacked, although I suppose that is part of his charm. Fun to watch and dripping with talent, shame he never trained.
@Izak43
@Izak43 Жыл бұрын
@@hnaku8748 I have many Chelsea fans accuse him of having the 15/16 season off, his manager certainly did. Injuries are a convenient smokescreen. He showed up overweight and out of shape (like a lot of the team did) after the title winning season, and that is a contributing factor to the injuries he picked up which didn’t actually force him to miss any matches until December. And he was poo up to that point, and Mourinho lost his shit over it, more than once. Most of the injuries were niggles an knocks. His major injury that season (the hip) wasn’t until March. He was a notoriously bad trainer, Giroud made a joke about him not even knowing where the gym was. That’s not me saying he was inconsistent as a player, but he was LESS consistent than the likes of Giggs, Ronaldo, Mane, etc. who were models of talent married to work ethic and professionalism on the pitch and in training. Comparing him to someone like Pires or Gazza shouldn’t be a slight. Those are good players. I don’t think Hazard was mid or anything, but I rate the 3 players I mentioned above him, along with guys like Ribery who did it longer and for more sustained periods, or guys like Ronaldinho with similar discipline issues but in their peak never dipped at all and won literally everything and still carried a team to the Copa Libertadores at 33, rather than the guy whose career basically ended at 28. Still an excellent player, mind.
@Izak43
@Izak43 Жыл бұрын
@@hnaku8748 What conjecture? Giroud’s comments and Mourinho’s reactions were on film. The players I named never had dips that big in the middle of their primes; a whole season where he was almost a non-entity. They were never injured, either, and being fit is a skill that has a fair amount to do with how you take care of your body off the pitch. He might be an all-time great Messi/Ronaldo levels if he applied himself a bit more, but we will never know. Not saying Hazard is bad, I’m saying they were better, and when the margins are fine, those intangibles matter. Those are the top 3 premier league left wingers for me, 4th is probably between Hazard, Pires, and Bale. I would entertain arguments for all 3, but Hazard’s resume probably wins 4th spot. That’s still amazing, imo.
@Beesplitz
@Beesplitz Жыл бұрын
​@@hnaku8748absolutely spot on.
@crayontom9687
@crayontom9687 Жыл бұрын
Too fat innit, too much weight for his muscles to bear
@woodsox1311
@woodsox1311 Жыл бұрын
Great player for 3 years then got fat body could not take weight gain over 2 months then got injured never the same again.
@newrecruit100
@newrecruit100 Жыл бұрын
He was a great player the second he made his debut at Lille. Stop the revisionism.
@woodsox1311
@woodsox1311 Жыл бұрын
@@newrecruit100 great is top draw player a world class player . He was that for 3 years . Same as Ronaldinho / Yaya toure / Michael Owen / veron / luis figo/ pavel nedved / Fernando torres/ Rivaldo/ . All players who was world class and could be named best player in the world at their position for 2/3 years . Ther probably less than 50 players that was best in the world at their position for 5 plus years Buffon / Maldini / Gerrard/ Henry / Messi / Ronaldo/ Batistuta / Ruud Gullit / cafu / baggio. / Maradona etc etc
@00dude3
@00dude3 Жыл бұрын
Not even 5 top attacker in the 2010s in the PL, basically Adama Traore with slightly better finishing and passing. Alexis, Salah, Suarez. Aguero and Kane all clear of him
@newrecruit100
@newrecruit100 Жыл бұрын
You ain’t gonna get the attention you were seeking with this post.
@napoleonjr2840
@napoleonjr2840 Жыл бұрын
Nice bait try though
@chip0109
@chip0109 Жыл бұрын
Ratio
@theblackswordsman9951
@theblackswordsman9951 Жыл бұрын
He was a bum
@JobMboko-cm4gi
@JobMboko-cm4gi Жыл бұрын
Just Shut Up..
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