How Good are Pickleball Influencers at Pickleball? ThatPickleballGuy Tanner Pickleball vs Kevin Dong

[@TCpickleball]

Commentary is so good. You throw enough analysis to let the viewer into what you are thinking throughout the match. I much prefer this to the endless droning that we hear all the time on broadcast matches. Good stuff bro!

[@KevinDongPickleball]

I will keep working on this format then!

[@wesleychan7875]

Best video I've seen so far

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Other matches I'm considering uploading: 1) Allie and I played a 6.5 DUPR player for $900 in a mixed doubles gold medal match 2) $1000 5.5+ Gold Medal Match (Men's Doubles) 3) Singles vs Woman Pro Singles Gold Medalist Any interest in seeing any of these matches with or without commentary??

[@calebjones-r6h]

Would love to see the mixed doubles match

[@achyuthsankaran292]

Would love to see both of these. With commentary if possible. Thanks again for sharing your experience and journey

[@swampy4701]

5.5 gold mens please

[@renewang]

would love to see both doubles matches and more full matches!

[@achyuthsankaran292]

@kevindong do you offer any lessons?

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Would love to hear some feedback on the commentary! Do you want me to interject more often? less often? More replay/slow mo clips? Or should I talk less and let the match play?

[@nosyjoe]

just right amount, imo

[@drdiaosez]

Great video!!

[@hawker358]

Don't talk less as we learn from the commentary. Definitely replay any advanced learning opportunities, especially when a winning point was set up from the previous couple of shots. Nice job!

[@1ce1ceBrady]

Love the replays on some bigger points. Perfect amount of commentary throughout

[@calcon11]

Good amount of commentary and insight into the points and the thought process. Keep it up.

[@linsu2854]

I've watched many game videos with commentaries and this is one of the best, if not the best. Perfect amount of comments (enhanced by replay and slow-motion). The comments are insightful, concise and to the point. Thank you

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Thank you for the feedback! This means a lot to me!

[@MrBrad777c]

Subbed. Looking forward to more vids. Tanner aka "Less Than 60 Seconds Guy" (His girl has to love that one!) is my FAVORITE PB KZbinr. Dude is just a legit teacher plus I'm left handed! I will say his original serve was much better imho but this open stance switch up is his new thing so who am I to overule my mentor. Great exchanges and your partner has a lightning rod serve!

[@jusan_tinos]

Kyle is THAT pickleball guy

[@KevinDongPickleball]

He is indeed. He was a rock the whole match

[@Alliver_pickleball]

I love the commentary! Keep it up!

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Thank you! Put a lot of work into this vid so I’m glad you enjoyed it!

[@pickleballnic]

This is good stuff. More of these with the commentary please.

[@ultimovietboi]

That ball was out 😂

[@juice1837]

No bro, he saw it better all the way from the baseline on the other side of the court at the worst possible angle 😂

[@juice1837]

Definitely out

[@Noahm1212]

Love watching you and tanner, awesome seeing you guys play

[@BradenFunk]

Great job on the video. Love seeing three of my favorite youtube pickleball players in the same match!

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Thanks! Way too kind!

[@ArtiomKuchin]

Love the commentary Kevin, more of these please!

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Working on the next one! Will hopefully publish tomorrow

[@naten2462]

Love this type of videos. Enjoyed hearing your thought process. Learned a few things about this game

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Glad you enjoyed the vid! Ill trying to make more of these!

[@DannyBPlays]

excellent commentary. really, superb stuff. Enough to be helpful but not annoying

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Thanks for the feedback! Will try to do more of these in The future!

[@bmeekma123]

Love these types of videos!

[@rottdogsparky]

Great video, like the commentary and ending stats

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Noted! I will experiment with/without the ending stats but will depend on the match!

[@AnnMitt]

This video was fantastic 👏

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Thanks!

[@SlamMasterPickleball]

Great video and commentary!

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Thank you!

[@scottpeckleball9537]

Enjoyed this Kevin! Great match

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Thanks Scott!! You’ve consumed a lot of pickle content so means a lot coming from you!

[@p90p90]

Man respect to Kyle for calling that serve in, I slowed it down to .5 and it looked in, but it seems like im gonna have to go subscribe to his channel also.

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Seriously huge respect!! The fact that he overruled his partner on the first one AFTER the ref confirmed that he couldn’t see the ball is the highest level of integrity that you can find on the pro pickleball scene

[@owenallenaz]

High quality match, props for posting and analyzing a loss. Seems a bit like you guys were a little afraid to attack and got lulled into a passive game thinking they would eventually start making mistakes, which surprisingly just never happened, even with the wind swirling.

[@KevinDongPickleball]

I agree and think we could have done a much better job with our positioning both in transition and at the kitchen line to help find those attacks. To their credit, they were rock solid and chose the right shots very consistently tho. Will be better before the next time!

[@wolf-xf6hf]

Please upload more these are so useful

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Got another one in the works now! And the camera angle is way better lol

[@kgphelps]

Tanner is one of us

[@matthewwestfall4753]

Enjoyed the commentary and the data

[@KevinDongPickleball]

I’ll bring back the data for some of these in the future! There’s a mixed doubles match I want to post soon that has some great data

[@RickJacked]

Good game man! What do you use to record?

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Thanks! Phone and fence mount 👌🏼

[@golfmaniac007]

Those out calls by tanner looks legit

[@KevinDongPickleball]

There’s a reason why Kyle overruled both of them 😅

[@pmb123]

Great video and commentary. While their 3rds success % was a little higher, I think the quality of their 3rds were better as they received an easier 5th shot to reset compared to your guys 3rds (a little higher) which you received a hard 5th shot reset. I wouldn't say they could hit 4ths better, I just think yalls drops were just a little higher in general, exposing yourselves to a harder reset

[@johnzhang9669]

Great game!

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Thanks!

[@joynguyen1731]

What phone mount did you use to record?

[@KevinDongPickleball]

I use the SwingVision mount! But I’m sure there are cheaper alternatives. They gave it to me for free when we were exploring whether or not we wanted to partner together (I ultimate passed because they are clearly still working on the software and it’s not quite ready to go yet!)

[@justinsummons5404]

Thought it was great!

[@justinsummons5404]

Thank you

[@sazerye]

those ernies had to feel good lol

[@KevinDongPickleball]

They were like mega Ernes. He read them nice and early and got some air time lol

[@owenallenaz]

It's interesting watching Kyles footwork. On both Erne's he takes off from his left foot, maximizing his right hand reach, and giving him some rotational power on the shot. I think when I erne I always take off from my right foot, thinking I wanted to maximize the jump, which now I realize may be wrong since it's so hard to time with a right foot, right hand shot.

[@KevinDongPickleball]

@@owenallenaz I’m a biiiig believer in launching from the outside foot (right foot when you’re on the right side and left foot when you’re on the left)!

[@dfreshness2006]

Do opponents ever take exception to you pumping yourself up after a good shot? Is there ever trash talk on the court while playing?

[@KevinDongPickleball]

I have definitely had some opponents get annoyed but my goal is to bring energy for myself and for my partner. There definitely is trash talking in pickleball but usually more during rec games lol. I haven’t run into it that much at tournaments

[@wolf-xf6hf]

Heads up guys this video is infinitely more watchable in terms of quality if you at minimum set it to in the settings 720p60. Quality is a million times better

[@KevinDongPickleball]

It should go all the way up to 1080p 👍🏼

[@jesterpew]

What are you guys in the vid rankings?

[@KevinDongPickleball]

6.3, 6.2, 5.8, 5.7

[@teghanbrownell8397]

that was great I leard a lot

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Love to hear that!

[@mabelskau]

Good game

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Thanks!

[@jimmykez3066]

Those balls were going to go out if the court wasn't tilted. Kidding aside, great video!\

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Hahaha I’ll do my best to make sure the camera isn’t tilted in future videos!

[@aedanacheson6148]

At the Oasis?

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Yup!

[@frankfurter7260]

Was the camera person drunk?

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Hahaha sadly the camera person was actively losing this match! It was so windy the camera was moving and I didn’t have time during the warmup to fix the angle because I was focusing on competing first! Most of my other filmed matches are better though. Just lots of adversity for this one 😅

[@frankfurter7260]

@@KevinDongPickleball yeh they’re pretty good to answer your title question.

[@LandonWilson88]

I liked this game breakdown! As a fellow pickleball video editor I believe I can help save some confusion. As I used to overlay the score the way you did in this video. It's a lot easier to keep two smaller lines of text. one for each team. Then keep a running score beside each text line. I'm not saying that's the "best" way, you can do it however you feel best. I found it easier than constantly swapping numbers around each side out. Funny enough here's an example of a video I recorded of you and bmac at Owensboro earlier this year. It's not the cleanest look, I've improved it more recently. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHuql5l_mqeqqM0si=YFgcbO-7MJS9-kGB

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Great point! I have been trying to outsource editing for my long form videos but since I was in a (self imposed) time crunch for this one and my editor was unavailable, I did this myself and the scoreboard looked like this in a hurry lol. Cool angle of the Owensboro match!!

[@LandonWilson88]

@KevinDongPickleball yeah it's a great angle, aestheticly it would be cooler with permanent nets and PB court lines. Always a good tournament though.

[@KowalskiPickleball]

No more crush?

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Going on a bit of a paddle quest now! I love crush and the crush freestyle is the BEST all court paddle of 2023. They’re releasing a new paddle soon but until then, I’m doing some self education on what’s out there. Trying Spartus, Ronbus, Paddletek, ProXR, Bread & butter, and anything else I can get my hands on!

[@KowalskiPickleball]

@@KevinDongPickleball Anything you like a lot so far?

[@nsj2kx]

I saw Kyle foot fault at least twice and I’m only 6 min into this thing

[@KevinDongPickleball]

Ref didn’t call any of them. Tough to see from this far! I (usually) trust the ref for foot faults!

[@georgetellis9483]

For as good as these players are, I’m surprised that their serves are so average. Why not hit serves that are much more difficult to return?

[@truthboomertruthbomber5125]

IMO, a net fault is to be avoided at all costs.

[@RideWithJosh696]

Nice play. I’m new but just an observation, footwork would help your partner significantly. Unsolicited advice I know so I’m that guy, but it’s something I noticed.

[@KevinDongPickleball]

It’s a good observation. From my perspective, it’s less about footwork and more about decision making of when the hold the kitchen line! The wind certainly made both of us a little less willing to take dinks out of the air but then it would push the ball a lot deeper than originally calculated so then both of us were taking bigger steps off the kitchen line. Not ideal!

[@RideWithJosh696]

@@KevinDongPickleball yeah forgot wind is a huge factor. Can make those shots really hard to judge along with already sensitive shots like dinks