How Good is BUFFED Dragon's Breath? Ft. Hunt Lab (Duo Hunt: Showdown Highlights)

[@HuntShowdownLab]

Thanks for setting this up. I had a great time!

[@redgared95]

New Cat Cute

[@PoneyChad]

🤨🏳️‍🌈?

[@RenesanWolgish]

Lovely addition to the usual video rotation of yours! Also, don't be sad, I also don't have anybody to play Hunt with because of my erratic gaming schedule, so you are not alone in this :)

[@ThespyfromTeamfort2]

I can't believe my 2 favorite hunt youtubers are playing together

[@nou8830]

I'd say fmj's weakness is because it's more useful on slower weapons, making the velocity even slower meaning even more lead and acting as a way to decrease accuracy over range while giving you damage over that range and increases the trade window because of slower bullet. Even with fmj your not getting long ammo damage numbers or even similar damage at longer distance. It honestly fixes my biggest gripes with compact and medium ammo which is your just not doing any damage over longer ranges so your just putting many more shots in compared to long ammo which is still better than fmj in every way due to higher damage, damage over range, and bullet speed. High velocity does the opposite, not decreasing damage but raising the accuracy over range with even more more recoil for the faster firing weapons. For the single shot and repeating rifles in the game it's negligible, however for the silenced weapons it makes the gun louder and gives it a muzzle flash. Still it doesn't add damage, penetration or anything but speed which decreases the trade window over distance and increases accuracy through ease of use but if you learn the normal speed it's negligible unless it's on a compact weapon. While useful for snipers and apertures they still have the downside of just not being long ammo and being forced to headshot or else 3-4-5 tap a target depending on the weapon. I simply cannot agree with nerfs to these ammo types purely because there is much stronger in the game that do their job arguably better (hint it's long ammo)

[@distract_5871]

You nailed it, I also wanted to elaborate on why FMJ and High Velo are fine as they are, but you've already done a really good job. But i might even go into more detail: As you mentioned, the meta in hunt is long ammo, so every weapon has to compare to long ammo to evaluate its effectiveness. So if they are statistically underperforming compared to long ammo rifles, they need to make up for it in other ways, be it in fast firerate, extremely low recoil/sway, unique ammo etc..., or any combination of them. For example, the reason people play the Officer Carbine even though it's only compact is because it's super stable and has a really fast firerate, plus it has high velo, which makes it even better at Distances up to like 80 meters. I still think the Officer Carbine is a little too oppressive and the back and forth of Crytek nerfing the recoil and undoing it again and so forth has not done anything for this weapon and a slight reduction in firerate would be all it needs. But the point is that even though it's compact, people use it because it's good. Another thing why High Velo and especially FMJ are fine, is that the ammo type that benefits the most from it is compact. the worst ammo baseline. With long ammo, FMJ is actually a hindrance because the additional penetrating power does not compensate for the enormous decrease in muzzle velocity that comes with it. This makes standard long ammo better than long FMJ in any case. I usually look at the numbers, but I believe that the muzzle velocity drop for long ammunition is somewhere between 100 and 120 m/s, while for compact rifles and pistols it is closer to 60 to 70 m/s. For pistols that can use FMJ, this is a direct upgrade over not doing so, as at distances up to about 60m muzzle velocity becomes less important since you don't need to lead much if at all anyway and muzzle velocity just reduces the trading window. With compact rifles the drop is already more noticeable, as the Winfield speed drops from 400 m/s to 330 m/s, for example. But with the recent improvement of the Lemat carbines it sits comfortably at 415 m/s even with FMJ. Now you have a weapon that is strangely competitive in Compound fights because you have a rifle that has good a iron side, a decent rate of fire, doesn't need any traits to work and can affort to go for wallbangs much more often than long ammo due to the ammount of ammo that you get back from ammo boxes. But as you mentioned, that doesn't mean they are superior to long ammo at even more than 120+ meters, as the muzzle velocity is still 200 m/s less than long ammo and the dmg dropoff for non long ammo guns kicks in much sooner. So at distances where long ammo still reliably 2taps you, you'll start 3tapping (or more, depending on the weapon and distance) them back. Therefore, I believe that FMJ/High Velo somewhat remeady the problems of compact ammo (and also some medium weapons). And that's a good thing, I think. If you're into loadout variety, the ability to equip FMJ with lets say a Lemat pistol and convert its crappy shotgun barrel into a flare gun with starshell ammo, like a 2-in-1 support weapon, might make you think twice about it, instead of just going for the same ol Uppercut every time.

[@SnowKnowsShow]

like the animation, the squiggly design stands out more and draws the eye more. Looks cool

[@Greater_Gator]

the boiled noodle lines are awesome

[@KibblesDoesStuff]

I love new cat!

[@Pestilence-ny4td]

Hey just wanted to say that I love the gameplay. Your solo has taught me so much, and I love watching the new great teamwork.

[@stevenvanblerk2651]

On the high velocity discussion, I've been wondering if high velocity having a tracer like incendiary would help things. It would be more meaningful than the increased muzzle flash

[@HuntShowdownLab]

Personally, I think HV should lose penetration. I think it's strange that it doesn't have any downside like every other ammo type.

[@NeonDisciple]

I'm good with nothing but dual conversions ty

[@Re-Hong]

Dragon's breathe is stupidly really good, but I'm running against players running salveskin more often because of the flare and flare gun buff. Romero and Specter Dragon's breathe is ridiculously good, within 10m with most pellets connecting against anyone without salveskin would do a full big bar destruction and can even ignite and do burn damage up to a small bar from 30m. The downside of needing to lead your shots beyond 15m is worth it imo.

[@TheBlaiit]

Great colab, Hunt Lab is great :) Love the new cat! Neat how you took the feedback of cat being too "squiggly" and toned it down. It looks amazing in full size - you made cat so lively :D I assume that the speed is the same for the big and the little one, hence the little one looks "faster". I watched the whole video and didn't like the little one at first, but then it felt natural rather quickly. Therefore, I think it's just a matter of getting used to it.

[@peebnute]

The little version was done a few weeks earlier when I thought I had to purposefully draw the lines less accurate than the previous frame to achieve what I wanted, whereas the big versions used during the intro were drawn with more accuracy to their previous frame. I’ll likely redo the smaller version with this in mind, but I’m glad you still like them ❤️

[@Ry1ie]

👍 on the new cat Great video, liked seeing you play with a partner

[@thebackyardbuddha]

I really don't understand people like that. Sit in Pitching with traps and holding angles but then when the enemy team pushes you, despite overwhelming advantage on your part at 17:17, you run away LMAO

[@nuance8530]

I always prefer team videos over solo videos.

[@vezrabuto7496]

i wish assists would count to mmr and weapon damage was counted for unlocks instead of kills. i love playing dragon breath and flechette amd poison and setup my team for kills but i dont unlock anything and have to scavenge the workbenches for gunoil.

[@PJ-oe6eu]

I also play a lot of solo and I really don't feel like its harder than duos (never played trios). With necromancer res it feels a lot more forgiving a lot of the time actually as long as I managed to die in a decent spot. It also allows me to play a lot more aggressively when shit actually goes down without having to worry about burdening a teammate by being that asshole that just runs in and dies.

[@PoneyChad]

The colab is realy cool

[@bassplayer2011ify]

For me its solo or nothing. Even though I have friends I prefer playing by myself. High risk high reward and all that.

[@Tory-JJ]

Burn ammo bad. Losing 2 bars to random damage bad. I strictly solo. Sucs

[@maelstromm100]

I also prefer videos with teammates over solo .

[@bshell1731]

choke bomb denial is easy because people don't often cook them.

[@vessiel8337]

we gotta know: how the fight in the intro ends??

[@FallenFolf]

I had to refuse to play with a friend unless he brought a healthkit..

[@zeromixa204]

Terminus with levering and dragon breath is basically a flamethrower. And nobody can see what's happening, even you. But surprisingly effective

[@KitsunukiTheDrunkenFoxInari001]

I loved this video! I hope you play with more players. I like to see the different dynamics of playing with a team since that is what I do most. I never once thought of leading with a beetle before. That was very awesome. I would love to see more duo/trios in the future! Thank you!

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

I sleep on the shotty special ammos a lot for 2 reasons: 1. Dont want to get caught in a pinch where i havent got ammo to replenish. 2. Standard buck is really good itself and gives more ammo plus easier to find.

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

Off meta Trait picks for me are: Gator legs ... lot of water on maps and when you are running with bounty youd be surprised the advantage it gives. Vigor: just a great pick when using regen shots and for getting stamina back quickly.

[@squeezyjibbs6643]

Idk if meta or not but I always take bloodless. It's great against both many AIs (grunts with knives, water noodles, hellhounds etc.) and players (dum-dum, flechette, arrows, bolts, frags, concertina etc.).

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

@squeezyjibbs6643 it's a common enough pick seeing as how so much in game bleeds a poor hunter now.

[@genin8562]

I think dragon's breath could be great if they would buff the muzzle velocity that is PAINFULLY slow.

[@peebnute]

Crytek has mentioned that they can't really as it would look weird considering how visual of an ammo type DB is :(

[@squeezyjibbs6643]

I wonder if they could make it happen with the new engine update they're preparing.@@peebnute

[@TikkTakks]

New cat rules!!! Resting face may be a lil too distracting and wobbly though, can’t stop looking lol

[@MrRadicalDuck]

Hey, I was the solo that just met you in game! I forgot to mention this was where I recognized your name from. Cool person in game and out as well :)

[@peebnute]

hello! very well played fight, and i appreciate you being so chill afterwards ❤

[@MrRadicalDuck]

@@peebnuteHunt is all about having fun to me! Always happy to end a well fought game with a bit of diplomacy :^) You played very well yourself! Hope to see you out there again some time

[@OldeVikingOriginal]

1:00 Peter Lorre laugh >_>

[@maelstromm100]

I actually loved the first kitty with taller ears and it was funny ...😂

[@anotherreloadanimator9701]

On High Velocity/FMJ Ammo: Maybe they could give it the slug treatment and reduce the spare ammo pool, so that like slugs, shots are easier to land/more powerful at range, but you'll have less of them to work with. Also I love the new Peeb, the line boil just gives it so much extra character and charm!

[@Avellar3000]

Great video and great match up

[@yeetzah]

new cat looks amazing!

[@garbodude4365]

Squigglevision cat!!

[@kedrickbryant6797]

Love the collab

[@benjaminnihilnovi6283]

I too, exclusively play solo because I have no friends who play the game and Hunt is not exactly a game where you make friends with the players you meet.

[@callumlambert6558]

Why not have facecam? This graphic ain’t it