How Good Is The Pipe Gun In Fallout 4?

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@dillonc7955 5 ай бұрын

My main gripe with Fallout 4's weapon balance is the amount of early game throwaway weapons like the pipe guns that persist throughout the game while there's fewer mid to late game weapons, limiting weapon variety. Only way to make these early game guns good is by the legendary effects you obtain via random chance oftenly.

@Suiberis 5 ай бұрын

Yep. .38 basically becomes spare caps, unless you get something like a wounding or explosive pipe gun, making it one of the most cost-damage effective guns in the game

@joshuakim5240 5 ай бұрын

I feel like pipe guns could have been cool if the modding system wasn't so linearly one-note. Pipe guns COULD have been the ultimate "make the weirdest, most unconventional franken-weapons imaginable" where you can modify to obnoxious extents to create guns that aren't particularly good, but can be highly effective with a devious mind...but no, they're just trash guns.

@fleebogazeezig6642 5 ай бұрын

If I were to make a Fallout game I’d probably make pipe guns the most highly modular type of firearms (maybe make the ability to switch calibers exclusive to this type of weapon), and bring back the durability system so that pipe guns have lower durability than other weapons but can be repaired with a basic repair skill (and make them so ubiquitous in the early game that you could probably make do with just swapping out one pipe gun for another when its durability gets low).

@ReapeeRon 5 ай бұрын

Yeah I wish that they didn't show up as often as then do in the game.

@gabrielespindola4461 5 ай бұрын

Add to It betesda's remarkably bad level and dificulty scaling and it gets ten times worst. At very hard dificulty early guns are awful even at very early levels and at high levels the legendary gunner who ate 5 mini-nukes to the face drops a bugstomper pipe pistol.

@GremDisaster 3 ай бұрын

My biggest fear use to be getting a wounding or explosive pipe pistol early on.. because I’d then be compelled to use it 😢😅

@ReapeeRon 3 ай бұрын

Very true, that is a top tier effect.

@writersblockdoc4488 5 ай бұрын

As an aside my first legendary drop was a poisoners pipe pistol holds a special place for me despite it being a really lackluster effect especially for the rifle build i had at the time.

@Josh_1312 5 ай бұрын

The most frustrating thing about pipe guns not disappearing later on is you can be well over level 100 and still get legendary pipe guns. The same applies to inferior melee weapons that are only useful as you start your playthrough. I'd like to ask If you can cover the handmade and the hunting rifle for the next couple of videos please. Keep up the good work.

@ReapeeRon 5 ай бұрын

Yeah I wish that wasn't the case, it would be nice for them to only be in the early game.

@dantehernandez7940 5 ай бұрын

On my first play through I got a knee capper automatic pipe rifle

@duplicarus 5 ай бұрын

A pipe gun can carry you the entire game if you make it automatic and alocate perks into the commando perk. Making it basically into a very very light machine gun. Even into the late levels. I mean I did a whole character called the trash man and played all the way to max level (a.k.a all perks unlocked)

@marrvynswillames4975 5 ай бұрын

>theres a .50 pipe gun but no pipe shotgun

@Suiberis 5 ай бұрын

It'a a creation club exclusive. Just a reskin of the regular double barrel.

@fleebogazeezig6642 5 ай бұрын

Concept art for F4 shows a design for a pipe shotgun with a revolving cylinder that never actually got made. I think someone made a mod that adds it in.

@ReapeeRon 5 ай бұрын

Yeah...

@Phantomsbreath 5 ай бұрын

I usually turn this thing into a bullet hose. Basically a "Okay, accuraccy is not as important as just *how many bullets I am unloading in that general direction*". And it's usually a pistol, because I'm not a rifle guy.

@40088922 5 ай бұрын

Pipe weapons look ugly, but I like their appearance because they are the type of stuff one would expect to find after an apocalypse like Fallout's. my main gripe with them is that they aren't craftable, which is kinda its whole lore's gimmick in the first place

@ReapeeRon 5 ай бұрын

That doesn't really work because we do have more normal guns even in this game, I wouldn't mind if they were better thought out and implemented. I mean if we got the weapons from the Metro games as the junk weapons here, they would be perfect for the world.

@cat-meowhood 5 ай бұрын

I can see its use as an early stage weapon that will get disposed soon for better alternatives like combat rifle, since weapons spawn location and crates are close to sanctuary so be ready and lucky.

@fleebogazeezig6642 5 ай бұрын

It’s a real missed opportunity that F4 doesn’t have a weapon durability system since that would encourage a play style of using these early pipe guns (which would have low durability) until their durability got low enough and you would just switch it out for another (unless of course you invest in a repair skill).

@windwalker5765 5 ай бұрын

I think the Pipe Gun could have been made a useful thing to have by slightly changing it and one other weapon. The 10mm Pistol should not have had an automatic receiver option, and the Pipe Gun (maybe called the Pipe SMG) is full auto only. Then, it becomes the only automatic in the game until you can get ahold of a tommy gun. I also think it should have been chambered in .45, or 10mm, with the top tier receiver being either 5mm or 5.56. Gives us more guns in those calibers and removes an ammo type we don't need.

@mattwilliams7454 5 ай бұрын

On a commando build I ended up with a kneecapper pipe gun. Ok. So later on, it sucks. The damage really lacks. You can spray down ghouls and then switch to something better. It works as a set up gun. But as a commando that's not what I think of. I imagine Rambo. But it did get decent use.

@writersblockdoc4488 5 ай бұрын

Im still genuinely baffled they chose this design, we have like 3 decent cheap dirty homemade weapon designs that are public domain, use a sten, the owen gun, or the lutty smg. Like what were they on making this piece of scrap and wood held together with hopes and dreams

@sugma42069 5 ай бұрын

If it was only used by raiders and super mutants, I'd love the design, it looks cobbled together from random shit found in a bin, by someone with no firearms knowledge, on so many chems they were only technically conscious while making it But diamond city security? Settlers? Nick Valentine? No way

@fleebogazeezig6642 5 ай бұрын

You can look up videos of homemade firearms here on KZbin and all of them look way better

@Justanotherconsumer 5 ай бұрын

Basic version is garbage but it’s early game garbage so still usable. The legendaries of it with either bleed or explode are absolutely amazing. Never found one, though, just find those in 10mm for some reason. For what it’s worth rechambering the Overseer’s Guardian to .38 is something I want to try - the doubled bullet is the higher damage .45 one and at full auto and no hesitation on wasting ammunition might actually be kinda fun.

@travisrolison9646 5 ай бұрын

One of the things about 4 vs new vegas i hate is the weapon system. Basic guns that alter based on what you put on them vs actual different guns. Anyway on one of my playthroughs i picked up a pipe pistol with bleading. Used that baby to the end. I think i upgraded it fully for damage and caliber change. It was my clear the riff raff and save the other ammo for tougher enemies. I think i turned it into a semi auto rifle/carbine

@khornymen7611 5 ай бұрын

Pipe gun turned into AR is good.

@ReapeeRon 5 ай бұрын

That does make it better.

@Red-yt2dk 5 ай бұрын

Cons: Very ugly Falls off Omg, Ron is reviewing ME

@ReapeeRon 5 ай бұрын

You really should think like that.

@Red-yt2dk 5 ай бұрын

@@ReapeeRon thank you for the affirmation :)

@Dom_Maretti 5 ай бұрын

The basic pipe weapon is the best of the 4 (The Syringer is technically a pipe weapon and SUCKS) pipe guns IMO. It fulfills its role rather well and stays relevant the whole game with a decent legendary effect. Sure, it's ugly...but that's practically par-for-the-course in Fallout 4. I always kind of wondered why there are no .22 LR weapons in FO4. The pressures involved would probably be just fine for long-term use in a cobbled-together bit of plumbing equipment like this. I don't know why .28 was the default. Also...the revolver should have been 38 special or 357 mag, with the bolt action pipe probably firing 5.56? maybe? I REALLY don't think these pipes could handle .308 Win (and they sure as hell couldn't handle 50 BMG or 50 Beo). It's so obvious that no one involved with development actually knew anything about firearms beyond the ability to do 5 minutes of vague research. They didn't need to have all of the cartridges ever or anything. Also...if the default "Combat Rifle" was called a "Heavy Pistol Carbine", I think it would get a lot less flak.

@galdersrontgorrth 5 ай бұрын

kneecapper is cool cuz it looks funny

@ReapeeRon 5 ай бұрын

Yeah that one is pretty good.

@hugosouza1993 5 ай бұрын

Honestly for me, this gun is kinda lazy. Considering this games sets in the USA, where there is a lot of gun of all kinds. Those pipe gun with customizations just replace a lot of ol world guns

@ReapeeRon 5 ай бұрын

Yeah they could add so many more different type of guns.

@travisrolison9646 5 ай бұрын

Thats the problem with the game vs new vegas. New vegas had different weapon types, plus unique. 4 just has basic categories and then you just swap parts for and its name changes.