How Harry REALLY Defeated Voldemort & Why MANY Get it WRONG

[@LyleFrancisDelp]

The book duel is much more satisfying, IMO. The verbal exchange shows Harry is not afraid and is willing stand up and face V down. He clearly explains that HE is the master of the elder wand, but V won't hear of it. Everyone is watching all of this, By the way. Unlike the movie, everyone in the great hall watches the final exchange and sees Harry defeat V with a disarming spell, while V's AK, once again, backfires on him, because the elder wand refused to kill its true master. And V fell backward, dead. His body was there as proof. In the movie, he just sort of disintegrates so there is no proof...no witnesses...that Harry won. That's what is so satisfying. Every previous time Harry faced V, everyone had to take his word for what happened. This time everyone saw it.

[@doll9340]

It's kinda ironic I think that every time he tries to use the killing curse on Harry it always backfires 😂

[@supaflyrvguy2768]

This is why i am so excited for the HP series, i hope they take their time with each season and make it verbatum to the book.

[@karlrovey]

I understand why they had Voldemort disintegrate in the movie, but I also prefer the book version.

[@trueredpanda1538]

​@@supaflyrvguy2768I just hope peeves shows upp. I want to see him slapp Umbridges head while she get's sendt away from hogswart. 😂

[@BackflipMcChill]

literally so cool, he's just standing in the great hall casually explaining it to V, after already just showing up cool af unveiling from the cloak

[@ginnyjollykidd]

Just a little nuance to add. When Harry made his decision to voluntarily go to his death, he had already won. He was already master of death. Not because he owned all three Hallows, but because from then on, before he was hit with a killing curse, he put them where he couldn't use them. He knew he did not need them, would not rely on them.

[@jovetj]

Exactly right.

[@kieranpagett4084]

Personally I think harry survived because of voldermorts arrogant stupidity. A horcrux is an artifact that someone conceals a piece of themselves. Provided the artifact remains intact one cannot be killed. Even if their body I utterly destroyed. If voldemort had really thought things through he never would have used Harry's blood in the cemetery in the 4th book. Voldemont had accidently created a horcux for Harry. Vildemorts own body. Meaning so long as valdemar was alive harry could never be killed. When harry walked into the forbidden forest to give his life for everyone he cared for in the castle no matter how little or lots he invoked the same deep magic his mother did protecting everyone from voldemort and the death eaters. Essentially the good guys were now in the position of power.

[@KillerZxAce]

I had hoped for a final duel like Voldmort and Dumbledore had at the ministry. I know Harry is not as skilled as Dumbledore but a bit more than ‘Expeliarmus” would have been great.

[@bailatwerski2951]

Killing Voldemort was NOT for Dumbledore to do and Dumbledore knew the full prophecy. Read the Books. Disarming one's opponent is more powerful and he gets the job done quicker

[@LyleFrancisDelp]

I think Rowling made Harry an ordinary guy for a reason. He wasn't the best student in school and struggled with many spells, but he did master defensive spells. Still, Rowling wanted the wizarding world to see an ordinary guy defeat V, and with a mere disarming spell. It sends a more powerful message than some epic duel the likes of Avatar, The Last Airbender.

[@ferencercseyravasz7301]

The simple, elegant Expelliarmus is precisely what I loved. Dumbledore had no chance of killing Voldemort and he knew it, he knew about the Horcruxes. But at that final duel Voldemort had no chance of killing or even hurting Harry. he took in his regenerated body a part of Harry's blood and with that, a small part of Lily's protection and kept it alive. Meaning that he became the only person on Earth who couldn't possibly kill Harry. Any mediocre death eater could have done it easily as Harry wasn't particularly powerful. But Voldemort insisted on doing it himself. Moreover, Voldemort used the Elder Wand, which belonged to Harry so there was zero chance of killing him with that wand. Harry knew all of this. So what would be the point of a drawn out fight? Voldemort was already a dead man walking at that point. As Harry pointed out, his only chance would have been to feel remorse and by doing so, to put his mutilated soul back together. he would have still died but with a whole soul he could have passed on instead of being trapped forever in limbo.

[@willdavis3802]

@@LyleFrancisDelp "ordinary guy" With one of the deathly hallows, and plot armor thicker than Batman.

[@robincarey6341]

Harry's lucky that after so many bad "dada" teachers, it's no wonder he only managed to learn one spell. He certainly makes it work for himself.

[@johnt.inscrutable1545]

I wish the movies had stayed true to the books here most particularly. A lot of real life meaning was lost through the screen play in this spot more than others I think. Plus I think the book fight would actually have looked more intense. I really appreciate the videos where you bring out the variance between book and screenplay; and those where you link the important bits that many overlook. In this vid the bit about him not actually using the cloak, no longer holder the ring are very important. He still didn’t know that the elder wand was truly in his side. And he certainly didn’t know how his mother’s sacrifice could still be salvaged. He had to absolutely believe he would die and do nothing to prevent that from happening. That’s the part that makes his sacrifice like his mother’s. And though he may not have totally understood the consequences he instinctively knew he had to do nothing. He even took precautions to make sure he couldn’t change his mind in the the last second by putting he wand where he knew he could not get to it with any chance of using it. That’s is what makes his character a true hero. A totally selfless act.

[@nicholasmenditto404]

Can confirm... what was the point of making them fly all around Hogwarts????!!!

[@nicholasmenditto404]

Just to take out so much from the book

[@Snidget-76]

I think he took those precautions, put his wand where he couldn't reach it, not because he wanted his sacrifice to protect all his friends. That would kind of make it NOT selfless, wouldn't it? It might cause it not to work as intended. I think he made those precautions because his goal was to die. He knew he had to die to destroy the Horcrux in him, and he knew he couldn't defeat Voldemort while he still had his Horcruxes. So in my opinion, Harry wanted to avoid the temptation to fight back because that would be pointless.

[@The1RealDarek]

That's not a theory. It's just recapping what happened in the books.

[@penichandler3585]

I wish you had sung Peeves ' song about Voldy being moldy

[@dreadfulspiller8766]

It's been a few years since I read the last book but I think it went ,We did it we bashed him wee potters the one and voldy has gone moldy so let's have some fun.

[@ShowtimeRL24]

I feel like Narcissa did that to get back at Voldemort for what he did to her son, and she is just a mother protecting

[@TheHighRiseElevatorLover]

Correction. While Harry didn’t have the stone in the final battle, the cloak played a pivotal role. Once Nevil killed the snake, Harry stood up and put the cloak on. He used the cloak, hiding from Voldemort, right up to the final moment where he confronted him.

[@madmorkie]

yeah i guess he forgot that part :D

[@jakdekayen]

He didn't forget. He only covers the movies apparently.

[@Mew_Stor]

The elder wand had hit Harry with the Avada Kedavra curse in the Forbidden Forest but maybe the wand was hitting on the Horcrux

[@Snidget-76]

Good point! I don't think the wand hit the Horcrux and not Harry. To destroy a Horcrux, its host has to be destroyed beyond repair. In the case of living beings, it means they have to die. And we know Harry was seriously hurt and could have died in the forest. But something has miraculously protected him from death, or rather gave him the option to come back to life. He could have chosen to "move on" if he wanted to. So perhaps the wand did not know the AK spell was meant for its owner because there was no contact between Harry's wand and the Elder Wand.

[@Dragonxmaster16]

Alternative theory has Harry only become the master of the elder wand by dying and coming back. From the moment that he came back, Harry had already defeated Voldemort. Lilly's protection lived on in Voldemort, plus Harry just cast sacrificial protection on all the defenders of Hogwarts. Voldemort had no way to win, and some theories say the elder wand knew that too, and thus gave its allegiance to Harry for the final duel

[@pamelaoldham1298]

You can't go wrong when we stick to the original text❤️

[@arinerm1331]

Which is why I cannot understand how HP Theory says that Harry didn't have the Invisibility Cloak at the battle. He most certainly did have the Cloak, and used it to walk to his death in the forest.

[@judithstrachan9399]

Did he leave it in the forest?

[@parkerlarson2969]

@@judithstrachan9399no he used the cloak to get away from Voldemort when he thought he was dead, Harry then invisible was protecting people from the death eaters and Voldemort

[@judithstrachan9399]

Thanks.

[@arinerm1331]

@@parkerlarson2969 Not sure I was able to decipher what you wrote, but Harry walked out of the castle and across the grounds to the forest under the cloak. He wanted to reveal himself to Ginny, but he thought he might change his mind if he stopped to talk to her.

[@MountainFisher]

I remember reading the death of Tom Riddle after Harry said, "I am the Master of the Elder Wand." It was the end of a long night of reading and was perfect. Go JKR.

[@jovetj]

2:30 I never knew this was up for debate. Voldemort killed himself. Besides Harry being the rightful master of the Elder Wand, his defensive charm caused Voldemort's curse to rebound back on himself. With all his Horcruxes gone, Voldemort died. Pretty simple.

[@lindabenny4454]

I cannot watch the last few films as they are so far removed from the books. I love the final duel in the book, the way Harry spells it all out & calls him Riddle to get under his skin. Also the talk with Dumbledore in the headmasters office is wonderful. I hate in the film that Harry throws the wand away! He just would not have done that, it drives me crazy!!!!!!!

[@kellysouter4381]

The differences between book and film are confusing.

[@Larka661]

Let's hope the series does the books justice

[@jovetj]

@@kellysouter4381 The differences between the books and the films are stupid.

[@bikkiikun]

Bellatrix once said about the Unforgivable Curses, that you really have to mean it, in order for them to work properly. If we add the Wand's own will (and senses) into the mix we have a solid explanation as to why Voldemort couldn't kill Harry. As long as Harry was himself a Horcrux Voldemort was unable to cast a successful Killing Curse on him, because his own wand refused to kill his own master, part of whom lived within Harry. Ironically the twin cores had ultimately nothing to do with that, as demonstrated by Voldemort's unsuccessful use of Lucius' wand. The Elderwand on the other hand knew Harry to be his true master, and it knew not only that his master was ready to die but also knew that his master's enemy is within him, thus the Killing Curse in the Forest killed the Horcrux and not Harry. During the final duel, the Elderwand, again, refused to kill its true master. And when Harry cast the Disarming curse, it flew all too willingly into his hands, allthewhile the Killing Curse rebounded and killed Voldemort. And for the record... while I think they did a decent job translating the Books to the Screen, with changes and cuts being largely reasonable considering the different medium, I have to say, the book does a much better job of explaining it all (not just in an annex, but as part of the flowing story). And I also have to say, that Voldemort's "simple" death in the books is far superior to the CGI Confetti. And I also think the way the wand story plays out in the books (Harry using the Elderwand to repair his own wand and puts it back into Dumbledore's grave to become powerless upon Harry's natural death), is better than in the movie. Although I found, that snapping it in half is also a worthy ending for the Elderwand.

[@kellysouter4381]

I love that you're still doing Potter discussions, many have fallen by the wayside but you continue, thank you.💐🇦🇺🐍💚

[@doll9340]

What about SCB?

[@bikkiikun]

Actually, if you read the book, Harry does still have the Cloak and uses it extensively during the Battle of Hogwarts (something that is completely different in the movie), he has it on him when Hagrid carries him and he puts it on when he jumps from his arms. But of course he doesn't have it on during the final duel. Though, in the book as well, he dropped the stone in the forest and left it there. The Elderwand's allegiance comes into play when Voldemort tries to cast the Killing Curse (in both cases). While the Elderwand may try and refuse to kill its true master, it's the Disarming Curse, that causes the Killing Curse to rebound and kill Voldemort.

[@Kaptain13Gonzo]

First, the horcruxes were destroyed so there were no other fragments of Voldemort's essence, other than himself. Two, the wand choses the wizard. When Harry defeated Draco, he became the master of the Elder wand. When Voldemort used the Elder wand, it only "mostly worked". [You need to read the book again, it's part of the text of the duel]. Finally, the killing curse rebounded on to Voldemort because the wand would not kill its master. Harry learned the meaning of wands and magic. Voldemort used magic, but did not understand it and died because of his ignorance. The movie made a hash if it, but that's understandable because half of the Deathly Hallows book was the lesson Harry learned and Voldemort didn't. It couldn't be squished into a movie script unless it was a 2 1/2 hour lecture.

[@xanScorp]

I still prefer the BOOK's end instead of the film's. Rather than snapping the Elder Wand, he just used it to repair the one he's had since he was 11, since no other want/magic could repair it.

[@ander2317]

Personal theory about the Elder Wand and its allegiance to Harry. I think the Elder Wand will never switch allegiance against Harry now, ever since beating Voldemort, and literally conquered death in its perspective (even if it was for a short time). Unlike its other owners who have died or been disarmed, Harry displayed two feats of power Magic when Voldemort tried to kill him in the Forbidden Forest; Sacrificial Protection, and Surviving the Killing Curse and came back from something he really should not have. Something I’m sure the Elder Wand never experienced. While disarming might still cause the wand to change alliance, that might not be the case now considering Harry was technically unarmed during his encounter with Voldemort intending to die, and came back from an instant kill spell. Showing powers and abilities in Magic not even the Elder Wand could conquer on its own. It would sort of cement the idea that Harry is the true master of death and the Hollows, I think. But again, that’s just my personal theory. There is nothing in the books or from J.K. Rowling that would justify this I don’t think, but it’s just fun to think about 😄

[@johnnielson4341]

Harry didn't need to have the 3 Deathly Hallows in his "physical" possession. He controlled all 3. Once Neville destroyed the final Horcrux, not only was Voldemort as vulnerable as any human but he was weakened because part of his strength had been in his horcruxes.

[@williamstefens]

I believe it was every bit Harry Potter's selflessness combined with his bravery. As he put his love and friendship over his hogwarts friends and professors above his own life.

[@flynnoldman3542]

My personal theory is that there is no progression of Elder Wand masters. There was only one master and that was the Master of Death. I also believe Harry didn't become Master of Death until he came back from death in the forest after his duel with Voldemort in the Forbidden Forest in Deathly Hallows.

[@bailatwerski2951]

GREAT THINKING 🤔

[@AustynSN]

I've had a similar thought. I think the only true master of the wand *IS* Death. When Harry returned after "dying", the wand realized Harry had defeated its *true* master and thus he got the loyalty of the wand.

[@diegob8382]

The tale of the three brothers is just fiction. They never received the hallows from Death, they invented them. Being "Master of Death" grants you no powers whatsoever. And the Elder Wand's tremendous power came from the fact that it had many masters and learned from them @AustynSN the book states that Harry gained the elder Wands loyalty by disarming Draco

[@ferencercseyravasz7301]

Interesting, but the book contradicts it clearly. After Voldemort's death, Harry speaks to the portrait of Dumbledore. He tells him that he will put back the Elder Wand "where it came from" - meaning back in Dumbledore's grave. And they agree that if Harry - the wand's last true master - dies undefeated, the wand's power will be broken. Also, the movies allow you to understand the very wrong thing about the whole "Master of Death" thing. In the book Dumbledore makes it clear that the true Master of Death does not seek to run away from death. He accepts that he must die and that there are far worse things in the living world than dying. Dumbledore also makes it clear that the story about the Hallows is the sort of legend that tends to pop up around such artifacts. The Peverell brothers were instead very gifted and dangerous wizards who managed to create those objects.

[@AustynSN]

@@diegob8382No, it's legend (within the Harry Potter story). The idea that it's all fiction and the brothers created the hallows is just conjecture on Dumbledore's part. There is likely (within the fictional universe) some truth to the legend, even if not completely true.

[@Larka661]

Dumbledore explained in limbo that taking Harry's blood strengthened the blood protection. As long as voldemort lives, so does the protection charm! And voldemort was the only person who could not kill Harry. That's why the spell rebounded on him again, and due to the horcruxes being destroyed, voldemort died and fell back.

[@gosuke5]

Yes! This was the actual 3rd piece. Voldemort was out of Horcruxes, Harry was master of the Elder Wand (and Death), and the fact that he had Harry's blood (and thus Harry still had Lilly's protection) meant that any curse he cast would rebound on him anyway. This is why Harry is so confident and even tries to offer Tom a way out. There was no way that Voldemort could win by the time the final duel took place.

[@keyjenkable]

EXACTLY!

[@Larka661]

​​@gosuke5 Harry Wasn't the master of death. He was the master of Voldemort. Dumbledore even explained that the deathly hallows were made by powerful wizards, not death like the story claims. The concept of conquering death is accepting it.

[@Bradbury2009]

Harry did have the invisibility Cloak, amongst other things he cast a Shield charm on Neville after he killed Nagini

[@imqqmi]

Since V had 8 horcruxes, splitting his soul in 2 8 times, only 0.4% of his soul remained after destroying all the horcruxes. Even if the elder wand didn't produce a killing curse, what was left of the killing intent wiped out good ol' voldy with barely a shred of soul left. The spell was so weak that an expelliarmus spell could throw it back to V.

[@Hoigwai]

Overall what we see in the Wizarding world is that confidence makes your spells stronger. Voldemort knowing his safety net was gone was not supremely confident as he had been in the past. The Elder Wand not being his ally hurt him as well. Harry on the other hand had absolute belief in his head that he would win and so his confidence was at an all-time high. There is always a chance of who will win as we have seen Voldemort's first defeat but the strength of your conviction or confidence in your success is heavily favored in the power of spells.

[@paulpopielski5261]

The movie was ok but the books were much better. Having read and seeing all the films your ending makes the most sense. Thank you.

[@Crashburn711TeamXtinction]

I don't think this is a theory more of a successful description of what happened.

[@scubasteve1555]

The movie does in fact explain that the Elder Wand has allegiance to Harry due to him disarming Malloy, who previously disarmed Dumbledore. It’s discussed on the bridge at the end with him, Ron and Hermione before he breaks it and throws it. So it’s clear in the movie that he defeated Voldemort because: 1) The prophecy 2) all Voldemort horcruxes are destroyed 3) the Elder Wand’s allegiance to Harry caused the rebounding of Voldemort’s killing curse.

[@keyjenkable]

Lily's protection spell. The Spell Lily used to protect Harry lived on Lily's blood which was on Harry too. When Voldy used Harry's blood to come back on book 4, he made sure his own blood would keep protecting Harry. Remember what Barty Crouch Jr Said: The same blood as yours runs throught Dark Lord's veins now.

[@quoniam426]

A part from Harry's bravery and Dumbledore's strategy, what ultimately killed Voldemort is his own vanity, believing he could not lose to a just above above average wizard boy with no particular talent... Voldy just was so afraid to be like any other wizard that the mere idea of failure and missing his self made destiny was too big for him to comprehend and face head on. The book duel was anticlimatic and not suited for cinema, yet the cinema version was underwhelming in many aspects, making the duel seperate from the rest of the school, like there is no proof at all of what happened.

[@evilspoon5280]

Also a thing to consider, Voldermort had lost several pieces of his soul, gone forever, and with them the power they contained. Voldermort was weakened, still powerful, but less than Harry at that moment. That is my theory on it.

[@ElectroT0y]

Harry DID have he cloak with him when he went into the forest to die. If you read the books, Harry donned the cloak to leave the castle to die without saying goodbye to his friends who he knew would try to stop him. Harry tucked the cloak under his shirt when he took it off.

[@arinerm1331]

2:59 "Harry didn't have the Invisibility Cloak on him during the Battle of Hogwarts." **FALSE** Harry walked into the forest under the Cloak, unless you're considering the movie to be canon. In that case, in the scenes just before Harry went to the forest, we learn that Snape was present for the murder of Lily. Harry viewed the murder in Snape's memories.

[@judithstrachan9399]

I thought Snape got there just after, too late to prevent them, not too late to hold Lily & weep. Probably a memory from the movie, it might be clearer in the book.

[@matthewelliott2213]

I liked the version filmed where Voldemort just died and didn't disintegrate and float away.

[@greggmacklin4222]

The worst part of the final movie was Harry destroying the Elder Wand. It something Harry would never do to Dumbledor's wand

[@stephengailey2400]

The moment Nagini is destroyed Voldemort has nothing left in the world to support his existence.

[@alberthaystowniiijd2821]

As to the notion of the Master of Death, Harry constructively possed both the cloak, and the stone as well the wand.

[@DigitallySaved]

Harry was the rightful owner of the cloak by birthright. Harry was the legal owner of the stone because it was given to him. The fact that he dropped it did not take away the ownership. Lastly, he was the owner of the wand because he won its loyalty after dueling Draco. So he, in fact, was the master of death. He only had to own all three, not have all three together on him at once.

[@professorsassafras]

heres a theory... magic is only as powerful as the wizard whos casting it

[@alberthaystowniiijd2821]

As to love, Tom Riddell used some of Harry's blood to recreation of his corporeal form; thus, this was the bond to life.

[@keyjenkable]

Exactly. Voldemort, being an ignorant, guaranteed Lily's blood spell stayed alive on his own blood!

[@andreykarbinovskiy430]

Harry did have the cloak on, up to the point of the last duel.

[@johnbeck3270]

Lord Voldemort was also weakened by his creation of the horcuxes, although he didn’t realize, or understand their full effect of their creation on him.

[@1379andre]

It was also his intelligence. He went out of his way to find those Horcruxes thats what made it possible he did what no other could with this clever acts.

[@StefanNikic2407]

When you think about it, there where so many DADA profesors, and that certantly took a toll on the students (Harry included) abilities concerning combat skills of, I think Voldemort was a bad duelist that is why when he got turned down for the position he cursed it (Wished he could downgrade his opponents), he was scared someone would overpower him in a duel, seeking out the elder wand helps this theory xD

[@nguyenanh7291]

In short: Voldemort died because he was stupid enough to use a Killing Curse with a wand that had just been revealed to belong to the person who was facing him, and got the curse backfired at his own face. Basically, he killed himself.

[@HarveyMeadowlark]

I agree with your interpretation. But I do like the suggestions that Harry had mastered the Hallows. He mastered them in a way that was unique, and his “life’s conclusion” and the conclusion of his ownership of the hallows was also unique. Harry cheated death many times but never feared it conceptually like Riddle did. He mastered the resurrection stone, but he cast it away and faced death,a bit differently, but still not totally unlike Cadmus. He was the master of the cloak, and planned completely to face death like an old friend, pretty much exactly like Ignotus. However, he was the master of the elder wand, but essentially on accident, and had no desire to use it for gain or brag about its abilities, which is what Antioch should have done. Whether it was “death itself” or the allegiance of the wand, I think it’s interesting to consider that Harry defeated a far, far superior wizard that had the intent to kill because the elder wand itself recognized the unique circumstances and recognized Harry as its first “TRUE” master, the first TRUE “master of death”.

[@flaftg]

If Dumbledore's plan of being the last master of the elder wand had came true, if Harry was never the master of the wand, then how would Voldemort be killed? Maybe a lot of aurors and members of the Order dueling with him at the same time would do, now that he had no more horcruxes?

[@Snidget-76]

1:06 I think Harry went to the Forest mainly because he learned he was a Horcrux and had to die for Voldemort to be defeated. He decided to do it there and then because he didn't want anyone else to die for him, but in my opinion, that was not the main reason he chose to let Voldemort kill him. If Harry had not learned that he was a Horcrux, he would *not* have gone to the Forest because that would mean a certain death for him. Harry had no chance of defeating Voldemort when he still had his Horcruxes. He had to stay alive to find the rest of them and then try to take Voldemort down.

[@fliplife67]

It’s weird I was convinced the only reason Harry won was because the wand Voldemort was using couldn’t kill Harry.

[@RobertWWD]

Literally everyone in Harry Potter is over 20. Except for Robert Arthur Knox that died too young.

[@bailatwerski2951]

YOU ARE 100% ACCURATE!!!!! ❤

[@keyjenkable]

Not even close.

[@Ryan_Giggs97]

Also when Voldemort returned at the end of Goblet of Fire he used Harry’s blood in the potion that regenerated him. Part of Lily’s loving magical sacrifice lived in Harry’s blood. Even though Voldemort regained his body he could no longer be the one to kill Harry as he tethered Harry to life while he lived. If diary Tom Riddle had used Avada Kedavra on Harry Potter in the Chamber of Secrets Harry would have died as there would be no falsely loyal Elder Wand as Riddle would be using Harry’s wand against him. But from the end of Goblet of Fire onwards Harry was immune to all Voldemort related deaths.

[@TheHighborn]

In the appendix of the book, it really sais that harry pulled out a semi auto shotgun with ripshells, and just blasted Voldemorts ass. Wasnt even a fight, just turned the fucker into mulch

[@ELisa-qf2mw]

A lot of people was disappointed that the hero's final victory in a 7 books long saga came down to a simple Expelliarmus. I feel the complete opposite: there is a message of peace here, and in the fact that Voldemort didn't win the Elder wand by killing its previous master, but Harry did by disarming.

[@VincentWeasleyPotter]

I think that not much consideration is ever given to what happened to Voldermorts killing curse spell, where did the green light go??? Im thinking that as Harry used Expeliemus this is what honed on Voldermorts wand causing it to fly into the air, But what of Voldermorts spell? I'm suggesting that just as it were in the beginning so it was in the end, I myself don't know how but believe that once again Voldermort cast his spell of Death upon himself thus his own spell being the one that actually kills him

[@alyssakays367]

You are correct. The book even says the he was “killed by his own rebounding curse”. Suggesting that the killing curse backfired off of Harry’s expeliarmus and hit Voldemort. The movie unfortunately doesn’t portray this.

[@nooblegook]

@@alyssakays367Actually it's not clear in the book either. That's what confused me when I was reading it long before I've seen the movie. It doesn't say anything about how the green light ricocheted to Voldemort himself. It merely states that Voldemort fell to the ground.

[@ferencercseyravasz7301]

The prophecy theory might be the worst one. Anything else is sort of allowed or even alluded to by the movie. But even just from watching the movies with a bit of thinking one can realize that the prophecy in and of itself is utterly meaningless. Had Voldemort not believed it and acted upon it, none of the events that we know would have ever occurred, Voldemort would have stayed in power and grown stronger, and Harry would have been just an ordinary wizard boy. It's a textbook case of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi]

Kin Slaying. Harry and Voldy are kin cousins via the Peverells.....Voldy cursed himself every time he tried to kill Harry.

[@Harry-Hartmann]

A Very Good Video 👌🏻👍🏻

[@manonthemoon692]

It is weird how the biggest climatic duel happened in book 5 and then no other duel compares for the rest of the series lol.

[@hughtube5154]

Not really that weird. The two most powerful wizards (Dumbledore, Voldemort) produced the best battle because they were the strongest, with the most power and skill to display. But, personally, I think the Grindlewald, Albus, Aberforth three-way that killed Arianna, even though we didn't see it, was just harrowing, emotionally.

[@forrestredd2706]

I would love to see a video on how everything would have possibly played out had Draco not initially disarmed Dumbledore. How much would have changed in the following story had Draco not been the one to disarm him?

[@keyjenkable]

It would have ended the same way, because Lily's blood protection spell was still alive.

[@keyjenkable]

So you are wrong too. Harry defeated Voldemort because of Lily's sacrifice. When Voldemort used Harry's blood on the spell to come back he guaranteed Lily's blood was kept alive and the protection spell Lily used is alive in Voldemort now.. So that means Harry can't die while Voldemort is still alive. That's why in book 4, when Harry explains Dumbledore how Voldermort used his blood he says he thought he had seen a glimpse of triumph on Dumbledore's eyes.

[@athab8256]

Is there any validity to Voldemort's power being greatly reduced because he had split his soul so many times? His power reduced to a point where Harry could defeat him, in combination with the other factors described in this video? If Voldemort's soul had been split seven times (each time reducing his primary soul's power by 50%), then his final form would have had only had a fraction of the power (0.78%) the 'whole' Voldemort would have had (50%, 25%, 12.5%, 6.25%, 3.125%, 1.56% and finally 0.78% of the original power for magic after splitting his soul in half for each horcrux created).

[@causaestmalleus4605]

The Canon reasoning for this is stupid - a wand he never held swapped allegiance because of a fight that it wasn't there for? I very much like the idea that the wand preferred Harry because he had a whole soul, while voldemort has most of his soul destroyed at that point.

[@Barboron]

What if, based on the theory that Dumbledore was death, he raised Harry to kill Voldemort on the same reasoning the Deathly Hollows were made that saw the brothers die? Dumbledore, Death felt cheated by Voldemort's immortality and killed him through Harry. Although, if Dumbledore was Death, would it make sense at him being sadened at his sister's death? Or maybe there's some deaths even out of Death's control. Does Death feel emotion if so? Or maybe Harry is Death, or possessed by him in some form, retrieving all the Hallows. Even though he dropped the stone in the forest....but we'll forget that as an oversight. If he wasn't Death himself but inflenced by him, so that gets a pass.

[@marcuswehle1833]

I think Voldemort being incapable of love and not having loved ones made him a disadvantage and Harry had more of an advantage because he had so many loved ones and had loving memories. Towards the end Harry started gaining more of advantage over Voldemort. So technically speaking after the holcurx's were destroyed and he didn't have allegiance with the elder wand. Voldemort was weaker than Harry and was negatively handicapped.

[@rustysm8080]

Forceably ...and physically taking Draco's wand...who was still had allegiance to Draco up till then....causing Draco's wand to CHANGE allegiance...is a bit thin....but let's say ....that was enough for the wand to change allegiance . .whose allegiance has been weakened by Draco using it to torture etc because of fear and loathing the act of magic... Ok. If you want to say that....i get it. But...why would allegiance of the ELDER WAND also change? Elder Wand: "The wand that bested me is now bested...so I am a allegiance traveler BECAUSE im connected magically to Draco's wand"? The allegiance of wands during DA trainings must have swapped a hundred times over. Huh. My theory ...Dumbledore's wand did NOT swap allegiance when Draco disarmed Dumbledore. It was done THAT DAY...but earlier. Who killed Dumbledore while he possessed his wand? Sure, PROFESSOR Snape cast the curse that brought his death SOONER...but Dumbledore was already at death's door. Snape cast the curse to protect Draco...help his conscience stay clear of murder.. .but... It also cleared Harry's conscience from giving Dumbledore a fatal dose of slow acting poison. THAT is when the wand changed allegiance...of it's own volition...likely with the prompting of Dumbledore as well. Dumbledore is good and well defeated...and being disarmed was a red herring. 😉

[@Velgar_Grim]

It's truly sad that no-one really loved each other in Potterverse quite like the titular Potters. And it's really easy too. Mother's desperate love for their child or just great affection between friends. But alas, not all Weasly children were loved equal. Nor was Lupin and Tonks more than bedfellows. "But Harry. He's a truly amazing lover..." -Commonly attributed to Ginny

[@Mussuei]

The Dark Lord defeated himself, he refused to think that was magic stronger and unknown to him he bealived himself to be the pinacle of magic Voldemort was the only wizard that could rival Dumbledore

[@sonorangaming449]

Having something in your possession doesn't necessarily mean having it on your person. It just means it is in your care. For instance, I possess my friends vehicle keys while he is deployed. I'm at work, the keys are at home. Then, I dont believe Harry possesses the Resurrection Stone. After he uses it in the Forrest, then drops it, it's because he has no desire to keep it. Once he drops it, it's no longer in his possession because he doesn't claim it as his own any longer. The wand may claim Harry as it's rightful user, but Voldemort still possesses it. So Harry may be the true owner the Elder wand, but he never actually has all 3 hallows at the same time.

[@venator4838]

This was always very clear to me. And this is why that scene from the movie is probably the most disappointing. I always thought there was one more thing though. Voldemort couldn't kill Harry in the forest not because of his horcrux, that didn't protect Harry, but because of Lily's protection inside Voldemorts blood. And noone said that only works once. So even if Harry hadn't defended himself in the great hall, the result might have been the same as in the forest, at best for Voldemort. Although I think that in the forest the elderwand realised Harry as his master. So it probably hadn't even attempted tu kill Harry as it didn't even if he hadn't defended himself.

[@torchmd]

Harry didn’t kill Voldemort. Voldemort killed Voldemort. He tried to cast the killing curse, and failed, killing himself.

[@Ravenblack42]

I would never seek to undermine the sacrifices that Harry, and countless others had to make in order to finally bring about the end of Lord Voldemort. However, for perspective's sake, I think it's worth considering a point which you've covered in a former video. That being the differences between two of the greatest dark wizards in history, Lord Voldemort and Gellert Grindelwald. Voldemort's reign of terror existed only within the country of Britian at the time, while Grindelwald's encompassed the entirety of both the magical and non-magical worlds. Similarly, while Voldemort was defeated by Harry, a 17-year-old boy, it took the greatest and most powerful wizard alive at the time, Albus Dumbledore, in order to bring down Grindelwald. For this reason, I hope Warner Bros. can still pull off another installment in the Fantastic Beasts franchise so this epic battle can finally be witnessed, and the rest of the story be told.

[@Snidget-76]

Sadly, there is no story left to tell. They should not have made Dumbledore and Grindelwald duel in FB3. Not only does it break the book canon, it completes their story arc and makes the final duel redundant. It can only be a rehash of what we saw at the end of FB3 now. It will have exactly the same feel and the same results - Dumbledore validated, Grindelwald defeated, both realizing they don't really want to kill each other, only this time Grindelwald would not escape. Even visually, I don't think there's something drastically different they can do. And judging by the Harry-Voldemort duel, an extended and Hollywoodised version may be too far removed from canon and its original meaning to be satisfactory.

[@ThadtheHobo]

Look, we all know the truth. Harry gave him back his nose causing his heart to grow 3 sizes that day

[@PGHDude]

Harry won because the Elder Wand was his. Period. And dying for everyone weakened Voldemort.

[@michaelbindner9883]

Neville did it by killing Nagini. The prophesy was about him.

[@WooRidersDg]

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[@harrypottertheoryextra]

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[@WooRidersDg]

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[@Ely_Teo]

The movie duel is disappointing , I would prefer multiple spells , destroying multiple stuff around , showcase their great skill. Instead it was a hug fest

[@minhho7586]

I don't think this can be called a theory at all. It's canon, just that the film makers decided to do it differently

[@ToddKohut]

So really Harry didn’t kill Riddle. Riddle was killed by his own curse, just like when he killed Lilly.

[@Hogg342]

Voldmort took Harry's blood in that instance he was Harry's horcrux to a degree that's the other reason Harry did not die relises this when he's told by Dumbledore

[@allgomesareevil6121]

I always find it annoying. The sequence of events that gets him the victory is, despite off Harry, not of things he knowing did or pursued. Why does the killing curse go in that order, voldemort soul instead of Harry? How does it know? Why does it count as a loving sacrifice when he didn't actually sacrifice anything? Why does the disarming spell now do rebounds? Harry has now finally released how everything falls in place, and the plot opened to him. Now we get the info dump. The strong emphasis on the hallows makes the prior knowledge in the series largely meaningless. I wanted it to be more clever than it was. When Harry came back from "death," victory was his by default. No stakes anymore. I was angry reading the rest...

[@Snidget-76]

This "rebound" never made much sense to me either. The way I think about it, Harry disarmed Voldemort while he was casting the AK curse, and as the wand flew from his hand it turned in the air and his own spell hit him.

[@allgomesareevil6121]

@Snidget-76 could be, I have difficulty with this scene. Because how the spells are acting goes first, and the wand is in the air going towards Harry, who is facing Voldemort. If he went, Expearmus! Accio! wand. I understand the description, but not how it is now. Unless his own rebounding curse hit him like a cannonball and ends up throwing the wand. Or making a somersault in the air.

[@Snidget-76]

@@allgomesareevil6121 I think Expelliarmus sometimes works as Accio, particularly with wands. I think it happened somewhere else in the books, but I don't remember where. I guess it pulls whatever your opponent is holding out of their hands, and if you're skilful enough, you can catch it... Maybe. So Voldemort casts AK, Harry casts Expelliarmus, their spells meet in the middle. The Elder Wand recognises that the wizard who cast Expelliarmus is its true owner, so it kind of interrupts the AK and allows Expelliarmus to work on itself. And as it is pulled out of Voldemort's hand and flies through the air towards Harry, it turns to point at Voldemort, and maybe the remaining spell energy of the AK hits him. Like a beam of light that is still coming from the tip of the wand. Maybe it all happens in a fraction of a second? It doesn't really fit with the description of being rebound, but...

[@mecahhannah]

❤Awesome as always thanks

[@ssl3546]

Nice, but I wonder if this channel is necessary. The books are crystal clear and the author is still alive and happy to answer the most mundane questions like how did wizards get rid of their "waste" before indoor plumbing.

[@queenbrightwingthe3890]

At the last battle after Nagini died you can actually see Voldemorts chest and right hand turn black. Maybe his wand did something to him that ended up killing him.

[@bailatwerski2951]

That was just the movie not in the books

[@bruderk4257]

If we take a close look at the first prophecy it tells us this: Harry only was able to kill Vol...., sorry, you-know-who, had marked him as the only one who would have the power to.

[@cindyhoffman5547]

I agree with your theory.😊

[@chadrowland4670]

Harry was the true master of the Elder Wand so it refused to kill Harry.

[@darkwizard4757]

Harry did not have the Elder Wand in the final battle either.

[@bailatwerski2951]

Yes but he was still the master of the elderwand which would not obey Voldemort against Harry

[@atomicpsych0]

Wait... this isn't common knowledge? I knew on my first watching of this that Harry was the master of the elder wand due to his duel with Malfoy. How did anyone else miss this? Why are there fan theories when the truth has been public knowledge this whole time?

[@wut37inarow]

He did have the cloak during the battle, he used it.

[@professorb3744]

Harry gave a secret itch to Voldemort’s hairy snitch

[@vegardyrnes1793]

Thank you.

[@robincarey6341]

The book's description of Voldemort's final moments would have been very difficult to play out on the screen. I think the way the film handled it was spectacular. I mean, the bit where he starts turning to ash was inspired, and looked as painful as what happened to Quirrel in the Philosipher's Stone. Similar too. Nice bit of book-ending there, I thought.

[@phantomblindsight907]

this is about the one ring.

[@jacobdrolet4262]

Amazing

[@samdickenson5852]

Uh you said Harry didn't have the invisibility cloak but that's wrong. In the book he chased Voldemort while hidden under it.

[@gundarsmiks4889]

You do understand, you just made a video that goes in depth a Harry Poter movie?!

[@Bobblenob]

It’s because how the books were written.

[@noneyabidness9644]

I have a different theory. J. K. Rowling wanted Harry to kill Voldemort. 😂🤣😂