Thanks to Autopotamus for coming onto the podcast today! Autopotamus’s Instagram- instagram.com/autopotamus/
@CBe-ot8vuАй бұрын
Don't believe everything people tell you. Just because someone can say something doesn't make it true. Autoflower plants my ass. A 3½ month veg time, and 9-10 weeks flower he calls them autoflowers but he also has to cut back light cycles to induce flowering
@CBe-ot8vuАй бұрын
I can't in good conscious trust info from an autoflower grower who lies to followers about harvesting 17oz from a plant that he really only got 10oz from. People gonna buy these seeds he promotes expecting miracles only to be seriously disappointed. When I run indoors in winter/spring I consistently harvest ½elbow plants dense tightly fat heavy buds. Yet his "1elbow" plant looks same size as my ½elbow photo periods.
@curtisstrawn4211Ай бұрын
@CBe-ot8vu I was gonna say man that's soo much for a auto
@joeymusacchio9816Ай бұрын
I am still in Montréal, Québec. We have tons of auto aficionados in the Montréal area. I love the Tray-to-grow but usually go Blumat, although I have been looking at the Blumat drip-tape + capillary mat and special blumat sensor for the mat. Build a Soil got me using the Auto-pots tray-to-grow again using for vegging plants. Part two?
@matt-vi2duАй бұрын
@@CBe-ot8vu Have to tell you you're completely wrong here. I've grown plants half the size of his and pulled 7-8 ounces from them. His plant are what he says they are.
@WV_Cat_Daddy24 күн бұрын
Please get him back for part 2 he’s definitely one of the best guests you’ve had his information is straight to the point and easy to understand
@discingaroundАй бұрын
I REALLY appreciate your non-judgemental approach and just let your guests talk about their own experiences. It's awesome that so many techniques work and allow growers to pick between them to choose what's best for their situation. Great channel!
@DaGrowingGoatАй бұрын
Seriously . I mean my grows come out ok but with this podcast i learned i need to change up a few things!
@jessemcclelland1355Ай бұрын
Part 2 please this was great. Great guest great topics great info. Love the channel and appreciate you Mr. Grow it. 🔥💯🤙✌
@NightOwlSeedsАй бұрын
What a legend! 👏👏👏
@2nd2noneOrganicsАй бұрын
When you have good genetics. You and get monster plants! I need some beans from these breeders! 🎁
@matt-vi2duАй бұрын
@@2nd2noneOrganics well you're replying to one of them right now 😂
@2nd2noneOrganicsАй бұрын
@@matt-vi2du I know I was replying to @NightOwlSeeds. But you I have no idea who you are. Are you a breeder? Who are you?
@Artful.CodgerАй бұрын
I don't even grow autos and that was a great listen. Thanks!
@4MReviewsАй бұрын
Things I did not expect: Autopotamus does not scrog, does not train, and uses 100% coco. I think alot of his success is due to his knowledge about what the plants want, his location being close to the place where Autoflowers originated, the autopot system, and great genetics. Thank you so much for this interview, this is invaluable information!
@growersmindsetАй бұрын
honestly this is why i stopped training my autos. his advice on reddit. one of the best auto growers ever.
@NightOwlSeedsАй бұрын
Grape Deebo is the strain that Autopotamus pulled 26.6 oz from one plant! 🙏🌱🦉🌱🙏
@DJJDSKREWEDАй бұрын
Im ordering some of your Genetics to Try thanks for being part of this Awesome community.
@fionnbarrboggs7682Ай бұрын
@@NightOwlSeeds yes your plants are the best
@mikeblomberg2776Ай бұрын
Thank you for putting your genetics out there. My first run ever. I pulled about a pound and an ounce off of two plants. One was the episode one and the other was the outlier Z
@DSj-f8hАй бұрын
I grew night owl strawberry popsicle. 1 of the 3 plants grew mutated. Then other 2 were runts that didn't produce. I will not be purchasing any more seeds from them
@xray7035Ай бұрын
@@DSj-f8h your loss I’m sorry to say.
@MorbidObesityForgiveness-g2h5 күн бұрын
I am on my 3rd ebb and flow diy 90qt sterilite Reservoir setting a 41 qt same model. I Ran TPS Ultra Grow and Ultra Bloom last 3 weeks TPS Signal. ZERO Deficiencies running 3 Cultivars. I Agree the dry salts are much more cost effective. I also would like to have separate reservoirs for different Cultivars. Back on topic i had 4 different strains and I am new to hydroponics 5 weeks into the dry nutrients Saw nitrogen deficiencies they were eating according to the tds readings and top off water. I am tired of guessing what was missing. If I had more experience I would use the dry nutrients. I don't work for TPS Just expressing it worked for me with complete satisfaction. More money for me more peace of Mind at my level of hydroponics. learning. Chris wishing you continued success in all thing in life. I am grateful for beings like you who truly care and bringing free knowledge ...Continue to inspire
@growersmindset16 күн бұрын
glad to see this episode do well. autoflowers really needed that exposure and you are the perfect host to show it. as well as autopotamus. lots to learn everytime you watch this
@vedacarmony5754Ай бұрын
I'm glad he mentioned leaf tucking. And I will cut branches at the lowest node if they seem wimpy. LST on meristem colas or even supercropping instead of topping. Some defoliation but more tucking. Easy peasy.
@BMW.e46.CarplayАй бұрын
I always cut it away but i have always Problems with humidity not mold or something but its always pretty high 😂
@garethpindard358325 күн бұрын
No way I top twice got new Samsung evos and doest eve stretch so much hard hardly no stretch in 5 days flower but twice as wide but yes auto pot crazy growth
@mattbrigner4815Ай бұрын
I love this dude!.. When he said he didn't measure anymore and he just winged it. I was like holy s*** that's what I do We like to call this beyond bro. Science. 😂😂😂❤️❤️ It's almost like when you play guitar and you get so good at it that you don't even need to practice anymore 👍🏻
@DaGrowingGoatАй бұрын
I am literally Shell Shocked from how much I learned from. Please have him back. So straight to the point and now I have a feeling my autos will be better this run they just passed week one I am not touching them at all this run! Thank yous so much !
@Killuminati2320 күн бұрын
but if the buds get very dense and humidity gets high, sometimes one has to try getting the bud clusters detangled from growing into each other from below, that can fastly lead to stopped growth and botrytis.
@OG_VeniVidiViciАй бұрын
I love how every time I leave the scene and come back, you're always on the ball. I'm going to be binge wacthing ALL OF EM. haha Peace and love, brother.
@MMMoistyАй бұрын
Man, he was one of your best. Keep the basics right, and dont need fluff around. A sessioned man that. TU TU
@02nissansentracsАй бұрын
I would love to see a part two talking more about his environment!
@BDPswickАй бұрын
Part 2 Please! A lot of great info, Thank you! I definitely noticed some of the things he mentioned. As a beginner I'd hold off on any training at all but if you don't try it you'll never know what happens. IMO Thank s
@DespicabledabzАй бұрын
This was an amazing episode and autopotomous nailed it!!! Keep on growing!
@MeesterBoopАй бұрын
Really interesting podcast, alot kind of challenging the newer "methods" for certain outcomes. I will be listening to this a few times through to really soak in all the info in this episode. Well done, and thank you again for having these types of videos available for everyone.
@katjastrand3955Ай бұрын
Get Night Owl Daz on here!!
@tylerr88Ай бұрын
@@katjastrand3955 100000% agree would tune in for that one!
@skankhunt42018 күн бұрын
Absolutely! 🤙🏽
@FarmerBaneАй бұрын
Great episode, thank you Mr. Grow It. Will be watching this back for sure!
@bige3244Ай бұрын
Can’t wait till I can sit down and watch this whole thing. Been following Autopotamus for a while now as well as you. You 2 guys together has to be 2 of the most informative people in this community and I thank you for this. Keep killing the game Chris ! I know I appreciate you way more than you know ! Thank you for all the great information! Have a blessed day growmie.
@GardenTalkwithMrGrowItАй бұрын
Thanks for your positive words! Have a great weekend 👊
@bige3244Ай бұрын
@@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt man your so awesome !!!! Love you growmie !
@Catch_u_reloadnАй бұрын
@@GardenTalkwithMrGrowItI've got a good friend who has two greenhouses he's a farmer and did some Mephisto and when I saw them many years ago they were 6 ft tall😮 I was absolutely amazed. He knows Mephisto personally though so that's pretty cool too
@kevinpetrey2851Ай бұрын
What's the brand of coco he uses?
@bige3244Ай бұрын
@@kevinpetrey2851 Canna
@PSTGFАй бұрын
Love this episode, thank you both for a solid listen and watch 🙏
@inhopeofabetternameАй бұрын
2.2 EC at seedling is wild. I need to experiment with this edit: also definitely part 2 would be great!
@oldschoolgrowАй бұрын
Thank you for sharing in such detail. You were really easy to follow.
@BobbyG-h8m17 күн бұрын
What an awesome Podcast! Simple, to the point, and no BS. Even informs you on alternatives!!😳“This is how I grow 1 lb + Autos in 90 days. Biggest mistake for beginners “ besides over watering, is Listening to too many shows or individuals and mixing their techniques will F U Up…“ **Critical, follow One “Expert all the way the way through harvest !! They obviously have had success and stand behind their methods… Mixing facts from experts doing different things, will make you crazy and, your low yield plants will make you wonder why you go through all this? The time and $ needed to enjoy your own product will be higher in the beginning with learning curves. Thank you, you’re team and sponsors for what they do! Bobby G Charlotte NC! EC Rocks, come burn one with us and I got something Special fur ya. 👊🏼❤️
@RichinMD7Ай бұрын
Wow, fantastic guest! Such an informative interview, thanks!
@lorenzomuraro849619 күн бұрын
you said it man..auto flowering plant are difficult for beginning but once you learn they are so usefull..
@frankhernandez1059Ай бұрын
This episode was badass!!! So much information in an hour. Demanding a part ✌️!!
@stanleyturrentine9673Ай бұрын
This guy grows massive autos wow incredible!!
@Chris-zu4esАй бұрын
26.6oz/1.65lb/750g yeah crazy
@519oliveiraАй бұрын
Enjoyed this episode and a part two would be just as enjoyable. Can never get tired talking or learning about cultivation. Thank you both for your time and efforts
@project_mattАй бұрын
absolute Legend!
@BigFoot-158Ай бұрын
Good show. I would like a part two soon. I am in a month hold before starting grow. Auto's is what I'm starting.
@growersmindsetАй бұрын
this guy is a legend! he is truly next level.
@chriscobalАй бұрын
Speedrun is worth a try, sour black cherry haze is amazing
@fabiantimmins2224Ай бұрын
Thanks guys, the most relevant and useful discussion that I could have heard today. I have one Gorrilla Zkittlez Auto, it was a freebie with a 5 pack of photos of the same strain from Barney's farm. I decided to put 3 photos through a long veg and grow the auto alongside them so I got the Auto to around the 3 node mark and germinated the photos. I must say that I have fallen in love with this little Auto, I might as well have ran over it with a truck with the amount of mistakes I made with the poor thing, I transplanted it during the seedling stage, I topped it, I bent it, I overwatered it, underwatered it, SPLIT THE MAIN STEM RIGHT DOWN THE CENTRE 2 WEEKS INTO FLOWER TRYING TO SPLAY THE TOPS OUT 🤣🤣. She started showing pistils at about 7 inches tall and is now 19 inches from soil level and an absolute mutant, 12 inch Colas, about 15 of them. Looks like genetics are a top priority for Autos, as they are with all seeds but so much more so for Autos. I think the thing that is seriously turning me on to autos is the 18 to 24 hour light cycle, eliminates worries of light leakage in flower leading to hermies and other issues plus I live in a temperate climate where 12 hours lights off is a nightmare for much of the year with serious mold and mildew problems unless I am running several appliances simultaneously during the lights off cycle which is both costly and noisy. Autos are starting to pick up a lot of awards, pay for good genetics and you are good. Really looking forward to perpetual growing in just one space which is another great benefit of autos, if you have space in your tent you can start and finish autos is tiny pots
@normageeАй бұрын
such a cool guy , he along with Captain Autoflower & Canamotoes were the reason i got my Autopots to run my autos & i too get huge autos now 😎
@JustVybz5 күн бұрын
This dude is lit. You are too. Inspired from Boston 🤝🏾
@jimadams8795Ай бұрын
Great show Chris! I could listen to Linh talk all day
@MattasinmeАй бұрын
I just got my first Auto flower seeds the other day so this episode was perfect timing. I'll be using my diy sip buckets for sure!!
@FordWentyАй бұрын
I enjoyed hearing the tips. I would love to see photos of his plants as he talks about them. Now following on IG, thanks for posting the link. Cheers
@UNDERGROUNDHITRADIOАй бұрын
I like all kinds of plants, especially the ones with flowers and/or fruits. And buds ofcourse!
@JW-lq9ow9 күн бұрын
Absolutely correct. No LST on Autos except for some leaf tucks and minor shaping. That technique has larger plants generally. But Great genetics. You will be happy. I use water only set up in living soil. Easy. Great Terps and THC if you buy the right stuff.
@JW-lq9ow9 күн бұрын
And been doing photoperiod s for years.
@PLUMBER392Ай бұрын
Please part 2,3 and 4! Once again great content 🔥
@solowkam.Ай бұрын
One of the best Garden Talk episodes yet. Insightful, practical, easy growing. Using similar setup - I use an Autopot AquaValve in an AC Infinity wicking base with a reservoir, 21 hours of light and little training or defoliation - I had my best yield yet. 150% what the max expected indoor yield listed for that autoflower, in 90 days. With this info from Autopotamus I expect to fine tune my grow even more and thanks to Chris for your excellent series!
@Mikere8118 күн бұрын
@@solowkam. could you explain this more? The setup and reservoir?
@URATRIPАй бұрын
I get 6 ft tall half lbs finish buds with some loud azz skunk from Daniel's Heartrock Mountain Farms gear. It's so true know them breeders they do all the research. Killer guest another passionate breeder
@richardbailey3335Ай бұрын
What should become more of a target for people, is getting the product to the correct water activity before putting into the cure container. if this is properly achieved, burping is not needed, as the RH never rises in the container. there is no change in the O2 or CO2 in the cure container with properly dried material. ethylene gas varies and if you want to purge that, it peaks days 12-17. we dont know the exact effects ethylene gas has on medicinal herbs specifically but its fluctuations in their curing containers has been measured.
@bobbybraddock75304 сағат бұрын
Yes, you have to push an auto flower from the start, only have a small window to veg!
@Chris-zu4esАй бұрын
Living legend. 👑 great show. great info. for all of you outside of America his biggest autoflower that was 26.6oz thats 750grams! already looking forward to part 2. he winging things alittle too much and do things on feeling😂 id love to follow his exact nutrient Scheme and par but ill try my best to do what he saud 👍🏼 now I'm gonna order my autopots. edit: wow just wow he surpriced me time after time with how he grows 😲😯😮😦 im gonna watch this so many times.
@riftliveАй бұрын
Weee neeed part 2 holy this the best podcast ❤
@matt-vi2duАй бұрын
Autopotmus is the GOAT autoflower home grower!
@brushsuka6 күн бұрын
Excellent
@Religous_1Ай бұрын
I have a stunted auto right now it's still smelling and looking fire
@BreakfastCake77Ай бұрын
I’m on my first grow and I love your channel. I popped some bag seeds and I’m looking forward to season two with known genetics lol
@CBe-ot8vuАй бұрын
Debacco University has some of the best cannabis info for growing. They do actual studies in laboratory environments, indoor environments, greenhouse environments with legitimate scientific experiments
@CBe-ot8vuАй бұрын
Never grow autoflower. And don't trust whatever you hear just because someone said it. ALWAYS CHECK AGAINST OTHER INFO AND NEVER ASSUME ONE PERSON HAS ALL THE ANSWERS. This asian guys IG has ½lb plants but he goes and says his plant has ¹lb dry weight before he even harvesting
@BreakfastCake77Ай бұрын
@@CBe-ot8vu he makes the rounds in my pouring over my current stage of growth lol! He’s awesome too!
@KAAPUCHE28 күн бұрын
For sur want a part 2 of this !! This is a great podcast
@MrBoytoniusАй бұрын
Linh you are a true legend! Big love brother
@trismos5593Ай бұрын
Before I watch this I am going to ask my question... New subscriber, but have learned a lot from the BC scientists you had on. Question: If the plant creates it's own enzymes to help it break down nutrients, would it not be prudent to save a small amount of your soil from the previous grown and mix it in the area of the new seedling? I just have a tap root show, and I have mixed in bit of previous soil to see the result... a long with adding silica later on in its growth (week 2, I think...) One thing about Yellowknife: If you are a golfer, you have to check out the golf course there... the whole thing is a hazard, all sand, with the odd blade of grass, and the "greens" are oiled down sand, where you drag a mat behind you to remove your foot prints. Rule #1, if a Raven takes off with your ball, you don't lose a stroke... oh, bring a BIG can of bug spray, the mosquitoes hunt in packs of a million, they only have a month of warmth up there and been known to take down Caribou (large reindeer) ...
@theshadow3001Ай бұрын
When I was setting up my grow.I made sure I had money for a cannatrol Love it
@ZephyrgrownАй бұрын
Thank you, Kris 🎉 This is still hard taking all in . I never grew before 🎉😂 I'm doing soil well I'm trying . 😅
@freedom_bornАй бұрын
This info won't really relate to you. These are autos. They flower whenever they want
@Catch_u_reloadnАй бұрын
Yes they flower whenever they want but let me tell you this do what build a soil does and just put all the food in the soil dry amendments and then let it feed whenever it wants just pH your water and water I've had autoflowers that flowered early I've had autoflowers that flowered late and they were huge so just make sure you got all the food and the soil whatever they need before you even start. I use a 10 gallon pot put all the food in there and I don't have to feed almost until the end of flower
@TidyToneАй бұрын
Very informative podcast, It was somewhat reassuring, I've been using auto pot, airdome, dry nutrients, only issue I had was air dome air pump was messing with ph at roots, I found adding a airstone to the resvivor to get the ph stable before it reaches the roots is working well, I had done a many autos, say a pack of 5 seeds, try 1, if I like, I grow another, use colonial silver to reverse 1 branch to male and pollenate the rest of plant, last time I had 1000 seeds from 1 seed, S1, 100% female autos.
@growinginohioАй бұрын
I'm getting the autopot😊 system from Indoor Gardens on Saturday. In three days and I can't wait
@riggspeter85097 күн бұрын
Yo, I’m a big fan of leaf tucking also because that’s how big your colas are gonna get yes
@The_Pinero_TreeАй бұрын
Another great episode thanks 🙏🏻 let’s grow 🌲🌲
@BrysonandrusАй бұрын
Definitely need a part 2. Great info
@ZephyrgrownАй бұрын
Grow talk is fantastic, really is 🎉thanks
@getbrainseedsАй бұрын
a lot of things i realized i was doing wrong with coco for years from watching this vid thanks
@FarmerBrown420Ай бұрын
This one will be listed to multiple times cris loved the book I'd like to hear a pod cast on how cultivates there own medicine and how it improves our lifes cus if you didn't grow up around it alot people don't have that they think it's gona make them lose control of life
@clayhipps845417 күн бұрын
I can grow big ass plants like you with an earth box, but the most important thing if you want to is humidity in veg and temp with autos but be careful they might veg longer than you want them to and get bigger than you want them to did them in and city picker once and that guy is big as outside
@DecayingRealityАй бұрын
Scroging is why I use autopots. Used 65 gallons of RO on two plants last run. Ran Front Row and the run cost me $4.60 per part. 65 gallons of solution $13.80
@LarsLarsen77Ай бұрын
Jacks is 4 cents a gallon, so $2.60 for 65 gals.
@ARR87Ай бұрын
As a coco salt guy this hit the spot! But now I'm slapping myself for topping and the first few days were ROUGH for my ladies. Hoping they'll get taller than an inch hahaha.
@chood6618Ай бұрын
Yes part 2 pls! Autos for me for over a year, with coco loco, dry organics in veg, liquid salts for flower for better control. Avg. Yeild 8 to 14 oz. Per auto. I like Ethos and Humboldt, best terps so far! Cannatrol for drying, grove bags for cure.
@stilchllnАй бұрын
Agree with everything he said, glad to hear someone talk about how to make it easy and fun, bc they are and can be. You can really dial them in too for that 🔥.. oh and did they mention genetics being key lol
@jaysee297Ай бұрын
Awesome! Have him on again! 👍
@mugiwarad.biggums4627Ай бұрын
Thanks for blessing us with nuggets of game
@TraderRYАй бұрын
Not gonna lie My first ever grow was autos and I got one almost a p indoor, all huge, I have pictures, I put my heart into it, learned everything, trained and all, had many colas, my biggest one had a bunch of arm length colas, I should have kept doing that and started KZbin or what not, that was years ago imagine where I would be, I grew after that for awhile mostly photos,but took a break the last few years.
@bountyonmyheadАй бұрын
The way he got his name was fun to hear
@6527mjapАй бұрын
I ad mire his work that’s for sure 👍
@Mr.Automatic-UnoMàsАй бұрын
Great episode! Thanks Chris! I’m a beginner also but straight on living soil. And also autos. Trying to get everything dialed in at the moment. Will switch from Mars Hydro to AC Infinity 69 pro, better integration in my Home Assistant. Controlling VPD with humidifier and dehumidifier, works OK so far. DLI not over 45 on a 18/6. Will try to imitate nature by giving in a 1h sunrise/sunset and switch to 20/4, when I have the 69 pro. DLI on a 24/0 and 750W he uses sounds insane to me, but he yields massive. Would have loved to know the numbers of VPD, par and DLI. Maybe in the next episode he’ll have some experience with living soil and drop some more gems. Quality genetics: hard to find these days as a beginner in Europe with no contacts or community. Lots of relabeled white label stuff. Would love to test some real breeders autos.
@dalecaudlejr240Ай бұрын
In Europe, id try anesia seeds based out of Spain I believe. Really good breeder.
@ravynwooden7940Ай бұрын
I use these types of pots. They’re efficient however I didn’t buy my pots, they were not branded I made my own. 😊 You should play rust it teaches you rudimentary planting and irrigation building. 😅
@chrisarmstrong2326Ай бұрын
Definitely need and want a part 2!
@mrtricombs476Ай бұрын
This was a great episode 💯🤙🤟💪👊
@UnluckyLewkАй бұрын
Def need a part two!
@UrrrBzzzАй бұрын
Awesome garden talk 🌿 TFS!
@michaell6580Ай бұрын
Yellowknife has no outdoor pest burdens 8 months of year due to cold. No outdoor pest reservoirs eliminates that pathway and makes it a bit easier IMO.
@freedom_bornАй бұрын
Good dude. Thanks Chris, another banger
@nicodurr729Ай бұрын
Hey guys appreciate these talks, always some gold nuggets in there. I got an expert question for all the daily consumers: Have you experimented with consumption breaks for 4-6 weeks? I'm really interested in benefits, because I heard from several long time consumers that it has tremendous positive effects on brain health, like it flushes during this phase. Wu tang also talk a lot about this
@erroneous6947Ай бұрын
It’s good for reducing your tolerance.
@SSBelmont27 күн бұрын
Great video!
@hydoken123Ай бұрын
Another banger by mr growit
@eliinthewolverinestate6729Ай бұрын
I use lucky dog soil. With a cup of type s or m masonry cement per gallon of soil and worm leachate. Having a wicking system allows for some anaerobic activity to fix nitrogen. I leave my drain holes about an inch off bottom of my 2 gallon totes for autos. Seedling stage is very important for autos.
@Fexone718Ай бұрын
Part 2 for sure. Thank dude
@HouseOfMylar22 күн бұрын
In the Facebook group I’m in I’ve seen a few pounders.I always wondered how one day I’ll try lol.even half off one plant I’d be satisfied
@DanniKing-y6mАй бұрын
Love autopots been running them for almost 4 yrs
@rodvans6008Ай бұрын
I love your show. I'm on disability (limited income) so I need to find a way to do everything on the cheap (or free) eg. CO2 generators for pennies or reusing soil. I have been able to get by on alot of the information you guys provide.
@rickshaver183819 сағат бұрын
Trea looks cute with the blue eyeshadow😂😂 jk..love you guys. Keep up the great info
@natpainter8185Ай бұрын
get it together Texas. The people are in need.
@sugabearchiraq5755Ай бұрын
I just received my order of Stash Blend. I’m excited to see the results.
@ZephyrgrownАй бұрын
Good Stuff 👍
@goodtogrow7774Ай бұрын
You can pull 12 to 14 ounces easy with MSNL Granddaddy Purp AutoFlower seeds in coco with the Lucas formula. 1 pound autos in hydro are reachable to the with same formula with the low Ryder #2 strain.
@BobbyS71Ай бұрын
Yes, please do a part 2😎
@charleygrimes5091Ай бұрын
Sunshine on a sunny day is 70,000 LUX. So, divide that by the stages of your plants and you don't need an expensive meter, just a cheap LUX meter. $25. 15,000 for seedlings, 30,000 for start veg, 45,000 for start flower, 70,000 for late flower. I increase the distance each time I turn up the lights so the plants can grow into the more intense light. Save your money.