How I work in Civil Engineering without a degree as a Civil Drafter in Sydney Australia 2024

[@BrandonSayasane]

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[@RingoShiu-cv1xr]

Hi Brandon, I really enjoy watching your videos :D I am from Hong Kong and I will study civil drafting at TAFE Brisbane in July this year . Could you please share more about the job websites you used to find job opportunities and provide some guidance on how to prepare a portfolio? Thank you !

[@BrandonSayasane]

@@RingoShiu-cv1xr Thanks for the feedback. In regards to where to apply, I recommend checking out Linkedin, Seek, Indeed and directly on engineering companies website for job opportunities. In regards to a job portfolio, I didn't have one and in future roles I didnt really have to showcase anything (Interviews were more personality based but was asked about how I would setup drawings or automate tasks. Definately learn more about AutoCAD? Or microstation? To be able to use the basics. A good bonus to mention in drafting interviews for entry level is "Keen to learn to automate work through Autocad scripting and lisping".

[@Dsndi8274]

It's a very informative video. I watched it well. As you advised last time, I'm going to study the Diploma of Civil construction Design on the tafe . Thank you very much.

[@BrandonSayasane]

​@@Dsndi8274 Glad you found it helpful. I would recommend you to see if you can find an apprenticeship or cadet role first though.

[@susanchitra9888]

To tell you, you are not just a bit part of this, outside the world you are a bbbiiiggg part, thank you for sharing

[@BrandonSayasane]

Wow, thank you so much!

[@carmn788]

Established in a career elsewhere but find it so fascinating to hear about some of the nuts and bolts of what you do!

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thanks for watching! I plan to do an even more indepth video showcasing actual tasks I do a bit later.

[@alansaeng7094]

Hello, I am commenting from Thailand. I have been working as a civil drafter for 8 years now and graduated with a vocational certificate. The salary in Thailand is very low now. I am looking for a job with a foreign company. Your clip is very helpful to me.

[@BrandonSayasane]

Oooh nice to hear from another drafter. I hope your able to get a good opportunity soon. Goodluck!

[@DevotionTheName]

American here👋 great video ! Just informing, I’ve been denied from multiple “entry level” drafter positions with an associates in drafting and 2 almost 3 years of experience under my belt on top of that. The job i currently have is contracted work for a big oil company and i have no benefits besides 40 hours of accumulated pto a year. Getting jobs here has been rough in any career. Still trying to get into civil drafting though.

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thats very interesting. So to clarify, your looking for a Civil drafting role in the US?

[@mixnikuya2946]

thank you very much sir. always silent viewer to your videos

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thanks for watching 😄

[@alcaalca4046]

I am also a student of DCCD. Love this video. Gave me tips on how to start as an entry level drafter. Thanks

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thanks for watching. Glad you found them useful.

[@TaylorChang-m4d]

Thank you for the video. It's inspirational.

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thanks for watching

[@camzsayasane]

Great video! Interesting job!

[@BrandonSayasane]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@BardoCct]

Brother, did you shoot that video in bardo cct? That house looks familiar 😅

[@BrandonSayasane]

Nope..not sure where that is

[@ldandco]

Because who needs a degree to design robust structures that would support tons of weight what could go wrong ?

[@BrandonSayasane]

Well technically as drafters we don't design anything. We merely present the engineers and designers designs in a drawing that is indsutry accepted. And obviously the engineers and designers review our drawings to make sure their designs are presented correctly.

[@kabooom123]

Hello Sir Brandon, I lived here in Melbourne. Please advise what is the civil drafting course that you’ve taken? I would like to work in that field again here in Aus? Thanks.

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thanks for watching. The course I did at TAFE Ultimo Sydney was Diploma of Civil Construction Design

[@kabooom123]

@@BrandonSayasane Thank you for your response. Cheers

[@bienalbertmacabali469]

How long you’ve been doing civil drafting job? And, how long did you spent in school to study it.

[@BrandonSayasane]

8 years total drafting. 2 years part time in school (was working in drafting and studying)

[@bienalbertmacabali469]

​@@BrandonSayasaneI see. This is interesting. Thanks for answering my question.

[@bevengeorge68]

Is there any possibility that a student study advance diploma in civil construction design and was given entry level job. How do they find the job?

[@Dreamer10888]

This sounds like the best career ever

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thanks for watching. It is a pretty good job.

[@KenzoTenmaM]

How much does a senior drafter make in Sydney?

[@BrandonSayasane]

They can make anywhere from $90k + super to I would say $150k + super from what I hear.

[@KenzoTenmaM]

@@BrandonSayasanewow so much money sign me up!

[@uzairGoldfort]

Which are best construction companies to work as Civil Draftsman in Australia

[@BrandonSayasane]

@@uzairGoldfort I've been at a couple and they've all been pretty good. Things to look for is 37 or 37.5 standard work hour, remote working flexibility (work from home), company provides work laptop and decent salary. The larger global companies tend to provide this.

[@KangarooBloke]

Hi so just confirming you were able to land a job without prior experience or qualification of civil engineering at all? And then the company even paid for your education? That's really generous, os it that common in this field? Are you an Aussie citizen?

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thanks for watching! Yes I am an Australian citizen. And yeah I only required to have highschool certificate to get into the Cadet/Apprentice role. With the company paying for education, yes they do but to their is also tax incentives for the companies to hire "Apprentices" or Cadets set bt the government. Cost of TAFE for the Diploma I think is also much lower than a University degree. (My previous company would pay up to 50% of your University though). For drafting, it is actually very common job position to have the Apprentice or Cadet position (most of my mentors started that way as well) but it is a limited number available. Most companies usually only hire 1-2 apprentice level drafters every year. Though the last 1-2 years its been tough in the industry as many projects have slowed down or been scrapped.

[@stpOwner]

Have you considered becoming an engineer?

[@BrandonSayasane]

@@stpOwner Thanks for watching! I have considered it and a few of my collogues think I would be a good engineer, but at this point in my life I am bit lazy to go back to studying.

[@stpOwner]

@BrandonSayasane I am doing an associate degree in engineering. Have you considered doing the same? It's a good start without a full commitment of a 4 year degree

[@BrandonSayasane]

@@stpOwner I have thought about doing that one as a way to transition properly to modelling/designer role. But at the moment my life is a bit chaotic with personal stuff haha

[@sankadezoysa6127]

Very interesting video Brandon: Thank you ! I hold a Civil engineering degree from UK with drafting and 3D modelling experience and next year coming to Sydney for MSc.. I do prefer for drafting job more than site job.. Is it able to do drafting job while doing further studies>>

[@BrandonSayasane]

Hi Thank you For watching. I am not sure what is MSc but from my understanding, if you were coming as international student you would be able to work 24 hours a week. It is not impossible to find a job in drafting whilst studying but it is harder as international student. Regardless, Good luck :)

[@anton_cine]

Hey @BrandonSayasane, Thank you for the video and good info you shared. What programs beyond AutoCAD are used more often? Like Revit or Civil3D? Thank you and best wishes

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thanks for watching. So I guess easiest way to explain it is that if you are a Civil Drafter you will mostly use AutoCAD and if you are a structural drafter you will use Revit. For me personally since I was training to be a designer/modeller I was learning how to use 12D which is a design software made in Australia. I used a little bit of Civil 3d for creating longitudinal and cross sections of existing alignments and to create contours from LandXML files but day to day for me was just AutoCAD.

[@anton_cine]

@@BrandonSayasane Cheers mate! appreciate it

[@anton_cine]

@@BrandonSayasane thank you, mate. Can email you with couple more questions around this topic? I'm trying to figure out whether the diploma of civil construction design is right for me and you have some first hand knowledge. Thanks

[@BrandonSayasane]

@@anton_cine hey sure you can email me about it

[@Trashcanhere01]

any recommendation for international student find a cadet or part time position? Been apply for a lot in WA, but it's really hard for a international student at first place...

[@BrandonSayasane]

Yeah sorry, I have no clue for international students. It is possible but yeah I think it is harder. Goodluck!

[@uzairGoldfort]

Which country is best for Civil Draftsman Australia or UAE

[@BrandonSayasane]

@@uzairGoldfort I can't comment for UAE but its pretty good in Australia

[@restitutororbis675]

Hello thanks for the vid, Ive already applied for civil engineering diploma course and ill be doing full time study, my main concern is probably just finding a company to work for or to apprentice under half way into my course because I did hear that companies come by at the Tafe to get some apprentice drafters and I think I can turn my full time study to part time. Did you just go on Indeed and hand in a resume to every available company?

[@BrandonSayasane]

Yeah pretty much. But I would also recommend Linkedin these days as well. Also potentially finding recruiters in this industry to find the Apprenticeship role.

[@restitutororbis675]

@@BrandonSayasane alright thank you so much :)

[@shatakshipandey8014]

I wanna do my two month internship in australia.

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thanks for watching and goodluck!

[@bipinbajracharya8333]

Hi thanks for the video. How much did the course cost?

[@BrandonSayasane]

So for me personally it was free (Company paid for it as I was an apprentice). If your an Australian citizen, I think it would've been around $2000 but I think if your international student your looking at around $5000 a semester. For proper prices best to look on the TAFE website.

[@gideonkogei9542]

Which college in Sydney can you recommend me to pursue an advanced diploma in civil construction design

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thanks for watching. I studied at Sydney Ultimo TAFE and I think its the most recognised institute for that course in the industry (At least in Sydney)

[@brannonwinchester7054]

12D designer pays well in Australia

[@BrandonSayasane]

Yes I believe so

[@gideonkogei9542]

Which TAFE did you study at

[@BrandonSayasane]

I studied at Tafe Ultimo Sydney NSW Australia between 2017 to 2019

[@gideonkogei9542]

@@BrandonSayasane I'm planning to apply for that course next year

[@MitchellBPYao]

​@BrandonSayasane you did it at building W at Level 3

[@ezpe3865]

I learnt Civil 3d on my own

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thats good!

[@RajivKunwar-i5j]

I can draft 1,2 storeys home in auto cad, civil 3d , revit , how good am I ? Do u think ?,thank you your videos are great

[@BrandonSayasane]

Well lol I'm not sure. But revit is a good skill to have. Really depends on what role your applying for. Like e.g as a Civil Drafter, your experience would not be what we are looking for. We do a lot XREFs and scripting in Civil Drafting but you might be better in Structural side. Thanks for watching

[@magdasayasane5620]

Good Job👍

[@BrandonSayasane]

Thanks