How I Would've Conquered Gotham As The Arkham Knight

[@fangworl5170]

You failed to factor in the fact that Crane would likely sabotage all your attempts to kill Batman because "he needs to know fear before he is killed".

[@_harriet]

😭 scarebrow thinks hes the main character 🙏💔

[@kels2624]

@@_harrietthat's problem i had with the game i hated the fact they was working together

[@thefaceless6406]

​@kels2624 it be scary if crans plan Jason's army weren't cooperating .

[@kels2624]

@@thefaceless6406 true

[@chasegrimmstone8647]

​​@@kels2624The irony is Crane participated in the torture of Jason back in the asylum

[@matro2]

Give Deathstroke his own command of a score of Combat Experts to hunt down Batman.

[@ceccascorp8149]

they did and he thought it was a good idea to use another tank.

[@ranfan1820]

This makes me imagine if this was a thing while the Arkham Knight knocked Batman down in that one cutscene. Batman would be screwed.

[@Batz-xk3nt]

Nice plan however there are a few problems mainly with the Arkham hq Hail Mary plan: A. The size of the elevator is small with it fitting approximately 15ish soldiers that’s means that Batman is really only dealing with 15ish soldiers at a time B. The time it takes for the elevator to descend and ascend is approximately 1 minute and 9 seconds. Batman at the end of the game can take out 15 soldiers in a minute. C. Squading up is a smart move but like the Arkham Knight, you forgot about the fear multi takedown which when maxed can take down up to 5 men. D. He’s Batman lol. My improvements would be have the 191 already in the room squaded up doing close and fast rotation around the room. Have mines on the perches (because they can do that). And blow up all the grates with gernades (because they can do that too).Then he’s trapped with a room of almost 200 armed men with nowhere to hide and either has to fight his way out or try to reach the elevator, which he could possibly do which then you could rig the elevator to explode. And if he beats all that, welp, hope you like prison orange lol. Ngl tactically the rest of the plan works tho, well done!

[@tfordham13]

They can only do that after batman uses them plus there still vents that can't be blown up

[@ryszakowy]

4 man squads with each man watching another all armed with rifles and they removed armored enemies because militia is wearing tactical gear with armor by deafult but i still would have added them each room 5 squads of 4 armored enemies armed with rifles, mined/destroyed vantage points, mined vents where possible, snipers in each corner of the room protected by 2 enemies with shotguns and motion senseors going off if there's more signals than there should be

[@aivarasduna3437]

For the vents we could set up a sentry gun or a mine to watch each vents entrance inside the HQ

[@PerFectCell92]

Doesnt he call in a spare batmobile after the fall though?

[@tfordham13]

@@PerFectCell92 he does

[@ceccascorp8149]

The fact is that Batman could have been killed by Arkham Knight's helicopter at Ace Chemicals, and again in their encounter before the chase in the city's tunnels.

[@smp279]

tbf batman walked up to the helicopter calmly, he most definitely had a plan for an attack and even if you say bullets, batman’s suit can tank multiple bullets from drones before he dies

[@ceccascorp8149]

@@smp279 maybe, but in the tunnels he was under the knights boots and he said "I'm gonna let my man have some fun" for no apparent reason. In the rooftops Batman could not attack and my favorite, Batman surrendered himself, got locked in a chair in the ending of the game with nowhere to go and it was Jason who saved him, why didn't they do it to begin with? Right after taking Barbara hostage

[@tfordham13]

​@@ceccascorp8149 he wasn't allowed to kill him

[@ceccascorp8149]

@@tfordham13 lame excuse. I could elaborate why he is incompetent in every way. He could have taken over the city in 4 hours max into the game. Killed bat and do everything he says all the time that he would do and never does

[@ipwn6]

​@@ceccascorp8149 But in fact, in the scene where Arkham Knight shows up in the Helicopter, he does try to kill Batman. Unfortunately, Crane overrides the Weapon Systems because "Batman needs to feel fear" which is what leads to everything falling apart. If Crane intended to destroy Gotham, then he'd let Arkham Knight fire at Batman.

[@Xpansion5340]

Someone needs to make a game where you play as the Knight in Arkham Knight, so you get to decide what to do with the militia and how and when to deploy then, even being able to set up fights with batman. Edit: you guys have some of the most fuckin valid takes I have ever heard about this, I think we could make a game exactly like what you guys have suggested, with enough time and effort Edit: thanks for over 250 likes, most I've gotten was 3

[@zlaggaming68]

Batman themed unit control game similar to halo wars, classic hero's and villains will be the game's leader units and it will be a war between the gcpd and the militia.

[@RealHajimeHinata]

That’s what I wish those Arkham Knight Genesis comics were instead of a bunch of comic books. Imagine that being full on DLC.

[@the_king_of_kings_3413]

Honestly, if they did it kinda like Shadow or War/Mordor style I think that would work very well!!!

[@caboose3191]

​@@zlaggaming68I would do horrible things for a batman rts game

[@CameronDinwoodie]

we need something similar to the boardgame RISK but as arkham knight, and then play as him in open world

[@djnorris1572]

6:31 Batman proceeds to use fear takedown.

[@illumn8n]

But how will he recharge it?

[@DanielMendez18103]

Before the invasion he wasnt able to do that, so is perfectly normal to not plan for that, its still gona tire him a lot which is the objective

[@YourAverageMCModMaker]

He only does that when they can’t see him or In predator

[@ken_se1]

@@illumn8nI doubt it'd need to be recharged irl or in a reverse scenario where you play as the AK in the game

[@Glasscoins868]

"it's super effective!"

[@LordAnnihilation]

I will never understand why he gave scarecrow complete control of his army and resources

[@tfordham13]

To play the part

[@Warpded]

@@LordAnnihilation Because he's the client, I would presume

[@BlackstabX]

@@Warpded He is not the client he is the funder

[@Stormtrooper-td2ky]

@@Warpdedor he simply didn’t and the militia defected to Scarecrow while some chose to continue working for Jason

[@comicfan1324]

Honestly, this would be my strategy: Send a single patrol car with a henchman who we know will rat us out the moment Batman begins in, interrogating him and have him lead Batman, the Arkham Knight headquarters. Does Batman know this is all a part of our plan: When he shows up and makes his way to the basement, our entire military force will be waiting for him. He may be tough, but can you take down over 900 soldiers and 300 tanks without any time to prepare? And just to be safe lock down the entire entire building the moment we suspect one of our men has been knocked out so he’ll have nowhere to run. Maybe it’s not the smartest tactic to put all our eggs in one basket, but if we can’t take him down with 900 soldiers at once, then we wouldn’t have stood a chance anyway Now, sure, Jason and scarecrow don’t want Batman dead, but you don’t have to kill him. You just need to injure him to a point where he can’t fight back and can be easily restrained by several soldiers. From there, you can attach him to the gurney and broadcast his unmasking to the city. Then Jason can put a bullet in his head if he really wants to. Now we have to account for the possibility that Batman can summon his Batman family to assist him, but even if Nightwing and Robin are helping him out, that would still be 300 soldiers they would all have to take on each.

[@kroo702]

I feel like instead u can do like the penguin missions where he follows ur truck u less thats what u meamt

[@BoldBatman900]

Knowing how badass Batman is, I don’t think that would work, it would just piss him off if anything, and would probably lead to the militia members accidentally attacking each other due to how many people are in that small space

[@kroo702]

no look we make him follow the truck like how he does in the penguin mission bringing him to a second base where they do their training and get a fake arkham knight who got trained to fight and talk like the arkham knight prior to this (jason planned this for years) the fake arkham knight starts talking to the (imagine a certain dictator starting with H) talking with 200 soldiers in the room who have a feature in their suits where they can detect batman even if he uses smoke then they jump him. 20 brutes 50 medics 50 undetectables 80 normal soldiers added with tanks but the medics will make sure hes 100% alive so jason can torture and then kill him after broadcasting his unmasking to the city. And incase he brings the Batmobile we bring 100 tanks that have explosives that are specifically made to destroy the Batmobile. Knowing Batman’s plot armor we add in fear toxin so he breathes in 100% of it giving him nightmares of the joker making him think every soldier is the joker which gives us the time to knock him out. Lets say nightwing and robin come to help we will have multiple explosives to take them out (knowing how strong their arkham knight variations are they could take out 200 soldiers) i dont think he’ll kill grayson considering i assume they see eachother as brothers. Grayson might never forgive jason though. Hes killing tim 100% because he definitely holds a grudge against him for replacing him as the new robin. These bombs are designed to ONLY hurt or “neutralize” the target and not anyone near them he throws multiple at tim and 1 at batman because he knows batman has the greatest plot armor. He kills batman but somehow batman is revived by doing a ritual so jason exits the screen kills the player searches for everyone who works at rocksteady and kills them. If somehow none of this works jason should give up

[@tfordham13]

Bats wpuld know there down there tho and would find a way to defeat them with the Batmobile or just not show up

[@kroo702]

@aveteranplayer6403 but can he beat arkham asylum ivy bane mutated joker killer croc scarecrow jason todd arkham knight scarecrow deathstroke ras al ghul 500 soldiers 300 tanks fear toxin and bombs that are made specifically to destroy his suit all in one room?

[@jaxsongrubb4243]

All of that is perfect, but remember in Arkham Asylum how the joker put bombs on the gargoyles. So I would put booms and mines on ledges, vents/ grates, and gargoyles

[@quantumvideoscz2052]

The way I would design the room in the HQ is this way: 1. Make sure the Batmobile cannot access it. Even if it is destroy, it would be logical to assume Batman has a spare. 2. Position at least 100 soldiers with guns at vantage points, prepare the area so that they cannot be taken out from above. 3. Put 100 soldiers (including brutes and medics and every type you have) on the ground. 4. Put Gordon in the middle of them on a chair. 5. Put small drones, sentry guns, and the sentry guns from the watchtowers with the 100 armed soldiers and mount the watchtower guns to the ceiling. This way, Batman HAS TO come in to save him. Give him a time ultimatum, too. Batman cannot overcome this. Even an endless stream of thugs can be defeated, not to mention thugs in waves. But this is too much at the same time while being bombarded by soldiers and sentries from above. Bonus tip: make sure all your sentry guns work in a closed system without any wireless connectivity. Batman cannot hack into them this way because there is no way to connect to them.

[@burrito4]

It's so annoying because I bet we all thought that the Arkham Knight should have done stuff like this the Arkham Knight easily falls into the trope of pulling his punches way too much

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

I mean blame Scarecrow for that.

[@jimmyjohnson1870]

"I know exactly where to shoot." Ignores open face ask like every generic batman villain ever.

[@Stormtrooper-td2ky]

⁠@@jimmyjohnson1870he isn’t trying to kill Batman, he’s just trying to delay him until scarecrow’s plan is ready. He knew Batman had the syringe on hand. You should know this if you payed attention to the game.

[@franciscocastro4082]

"How will Batman escape?" Batman: Smoke pellet, R1.

[@halazars4366]

A couple things you failed to take into account, Batman is impossibly stealthy and would likely take you much more seriously than he did in the original game since you're being much smarter here. Second thing is Scarecrow has and will actively stop you from killing Bats as much as he can, we know this since if you watch when AK has the helicopter pointed right at Batman it reads "System Override" on the screens. (Not sure if you were taking the actually room designs into account or not)

[@RMPBuilds]

I think the main thing he failed to realize was Batman's back up tank. Most of his plan was relying on allowing Batman to progress as usual, destroy his tank, and then bombard him with the entire militia. All though he still would have his back up at this time. I guess still, I'd say they'd have a chance of destroying Batman's back up tank if they added all the tanks, drones, and including Cobra Tanks. Because those things are a pain in the ass. He'll have to priortize taking on baby tanks and drones while trying to dodge these locking on guns from the Cobra. And you can't even sneak around them while they've noticed you. All you can do is fall back like how he did against Jason's Cloudburst tank

[@Kero-zc5tc]

It’s literally batman, he has stuff in his arsenal not shown in the games. The most obvious being an entire batwing (and he probably has a few spare). Also batman is smart, he won’t act the same against dumb opponent compared to a smart opponent.

[@halazars4366]

@@Kero-zc5tc That is exactly what I said

[@Kero-zc5tc]

@@halazars4366 I don’t see where you talked about his arsenal, also there’s so many of the same comment I didn’t bother to read yours and now that I have it wasn’t worth my time

[@lebislake7111]

The plan is nearly perfect but you forgot about Nightwing and Robin

[@eymentoJ00]

Bro is literaly me in math class thinking everything besides math.

[@TITANia69420]

6:18 They actually do that. When alerted by Batman's presence, they proceed to go in pairs and go back-to-back while they move. I never noticed it while playing, but when I noticed them doing it, it's actually annoying trying to separate them.

[@dravensanders6157]

You should make this type of video for the other Arkham games or hell, even just other games in general, its very entertaining to me to see how someone else would do in the villain's place with all the same resources.

[@Lumantrix]

Yes I second this

[@donovangomez9489]

Here's the thing... Batman isn't dumb. Even with the Arkham Knight HQ he would find a way around it. I can see two scenarios. 1) He pulls a Nick Fury from TWS. Fakes his death and uses a chemical to slow down his heart rate so you think he's dead and then because you're the Arkham Knight and you have a massive ego you would want ro see the body. That's when he makes his move. 2) He disguises himself as a militia soldier..the amount of soldiers you have doesn't allow for proper ID checking without severely limiting yourself 3) You didn't account foe the Bat Family. You still have Nightiwing Robin and Azrael as physical thrwats to deal with and Barbara shouldn't be underestimated either 4) How are you going to deal with Poison Ivy?

[@shivamkanichhe8839]

This is actually possible the him blending in with soliders or you know you can just get the bat wing in😂

[@FraserSouris]

1) If Batman goes down, have your guys not take any chances and shoot him extra to take make sure. 2) If Batman is disguised, he won't be able to bring most of his gadgets or his Batsuit. So if he ever gets exposed, he'd be fighting with limited equipment. So you need some way of periodically and automatically checking each goon at random times with if something was up. For example, lets say each goon's suit automatically transmits their heart rate to every other goon in the area (something that's already in the game. It's how Arkham Knight knows when you stealth takedown a goon). Batman being Batman would be unusually calm even in stressful situations. So if you notice one particular guard having a low heart rate even in stressful situations, you have a good chance of noticing it's Batman. You could go a step further and add in ID sensors in the suits MGS style. 3) Knight, Scarecrow and Penguin did end up capturing Robin, Barbara and Nightwing in the base game. Hell, that's how Batman's identity got revealed. 4) Just make a deal with Ivy that if you stay out of our way, not only will we won't harm plants, we will give you the means to further protect them.

[@fish_and-chips]

How I’d do that shit > set up the poison Ivy trap > make the entire room hermetically sealable instead of just a chamber in the room > have guards posted up inside the room with guns, shock knives, etc > Batman goes in and kicks their asses > lock the room, have guards hidden outside room to barricade it from outside > deploy fear gas and Herbicides, to kill Poison Ivy, or just have her in a containment chamber that’s rigged to blow idk > blow up the clock tower to kill oracle, or have Arkham knight storm the place like he really does > swarm entire Chinatown block with cobras, diamondbacks, and rattlers > have thermal camera inside room to detect Batman > if Batman isn’t seen via camera, assume he got out, level the building > if he’s in there, gas the room for an entire hour, then have a team of 20 including the Arkham Knight to ensure he’s dead > assuming robin doesn’t know what’s happening, storm panessa studios and take him hostage, stage execution video > if he does know what’s happening, reinforce already existing presence further with more tanks, Deathstroke commanding them > whilst this is happening, scarecrow does his scarecrow thing at ace chemicals > evac in like 2 hours, 5 tops > scarecrow gets to see Batman suffer, Arkham Knight gets to see Batman die, deathstroke gets paid

[@comicfan1324]

4:41 honestly this is one of the smartest things the Arkham Knight did. Planting these bombs means that any outside force cannot set foot in Gotham without forcing the militia to destroy all of Central Gotham. Not only does this stop the National Guard from coming in, but more importantly, it stops other superheroes from showing up like Superman (who we know is active at this point). Sure, some people like Nightwing were able to sneak his way in, but for the most part, the entire city is locked off. Although personally, I was the Arkham Knight, I would’ve gone farther with this. Playing some bombs on the bridges and detonate them both to make it harder for people to actually enter the city and as a way of showing that you’re serious about the dead nation threat.

[@Priestradamus]

If Nightwing could sneak in, what’s stopping Superman from doing so?

[@tfordham13]

Oh no superman can draft he bombs and everyone bats just asked him not to

[@TheBatman667]

Your logic is 95% correct however you made a small 5% mistake. A mere bomb cannot stop superman not matter how big it is. If nightwing and batman can do it. Superman can do it to much easily.😂😂

[@repdebt]

​@@TheBatman667the point isn't to stop the superheroes but to obliterate Gotham and whoever is left in it if they tried to stop the Knight it's a hostage situation, really

[@comicfan1324]

I will say, although the back to back method is good on paper. There are a few ways Batman would still be able to easily overcome that: 1. Multi takedown. of course Jason would have no idea this technology existed yet, but as soon as he learns Batman is capable of taking down multiple opponents in one movement, they would need to change their strategy which would be difficult. The soldiers have been trained all this time without knowledge of Batman’s new skills 2. Smoke bomb. It doesn’t matter if someone’s watching your Blindspot if they can’t see 2 inches in front of their nose. 3. Gadgets. All Batman have to do is throw two Batarangs to knock them down and they would be easy pickings

[@FraserSouris]

1. Even with Multitakedowns, at most, this gives Batman 6 enemies to takedown and only works once per encounter. Not effective against 100 guys. 2. Give them gask masks and thermals 3. Doesn't work against 100+ guys

[@AzyxMR]

Also in the batmobile stealth sections the cobra tanks are too spread out and far away from each other, they could apply the strategy where the main tank is in the middle and there are cobra tanks on all sides

[@DalekStrategist308]

8:36 Batman did have a second Batmobile

[@taramaforhaikido7272]

1: Find out Batman is Bruce. Perfectly possbile, since characters already know to gain intel from. 2: Send EVERYTHING after Batman. Forget the bridges. Forget the GCPD. Just. Target. Batman. Trust me. It's Batman. If you think you "have enough", you probably don't. NUKE him if you have too.

[@ScoutLeaderBlackout]

7:14 bro sounds like Dutch Van der Linde

[@bowino489]

It wouldn’t be impossible for Batman to take down the HQ, sure 191 is a lot, but if he uses predator tactics he could slowly pick away at them, it would just take a while, but we’re talking about Batman, possibly the most patient and disciplined man on Earth, he’d be fine. Also if they all file in from the elevator, Batman would be able to focus his efforts on one spot, making it easy to prepare for each wave

[@stonebesilver]

The only reason Arkham HQ wouldn’t work is if you didn’t have them bring guns, otherwise he can easily beat them no matter the number, theres a challenge in arkham origins called 100 to 1 and thats no sweat for him

[@FraserSouris]

To be fair, t hose are unarmed

[@edviza1935]

I know literally everyone has pointed this out but Speedrun Strat: Man every tank and Batman cannot blow them up. He’s fucked.

[@tfordham13]

Than batman just finds a way to no blow them up he has a emp he can just make it stronger to shut the tanks down permanently

[@edviza1935]

@@tfordham13 He probably could but he would have to put way more effort into doing that than he would with the unmanned tanks

[@tfordham13]

@edviza1935 this is arkham knight batman he can easily do this or he can have fox make some non lethal missle

[@SudhishSP-h7k]

​@@edviza1935earlier in the game it is mentioned that Batman was expecting the tanks to be maned so he was already prepared to deal with it but then oracle imformed him that the tanks were unmaned so he sqktched to lethal force

[@ALJ9000]

@@SudhishSP-h7k Alfred told him, actually

[@RipZoe]

So after gotham is conquered suddenly a sonic boom rings your ears as scarecrow and jason look up through the fog of the sky and see two glowing eyes, and just like that its over.

[@levicarpenter5509]

Superman isn't even confirmed to exists in the arkham verse

[@ironhidegaming1643]

@@levicarpenter5509 Suicide Squad kill the justice league is Arkhamverse

[@ashtonnelson7796]

@@levicarpenter5509yes he is “if that freak from metropolis flew over here “ one of the npc goons mention him

[@BlackstabX]

Superman doesn't operate in night much and still he would have his own rouges to deal with so it's a 50-50

[@RocketMan21-vp9ie]

How about having the tank and armed guys shoot Batman when he's standing next to Ivy? Could've easily been killed then, as soon as they got out.

[@noirtime1762]

It feels like the room would be overcrowded, and it would take a lot of time to get 70 soldiers on the roof, and 121 on the lower area. I feel if Batman attacked them there would be a lot of crossfire, and there’s plenty of grates and other areas for Batman to hide in within that room DESPITE that amount of men. Although very good plan!

[@elighplaysyt]

Letting batman invade you is the least idiotic move to play at mercey bridge i think putting any militia there was bad but what would work better is let batman take the bridge but be at the car as it would make him resort to the backup earlier then normal then when the car blows up later instead of having a back up he has no car

[@kiosk28]

If I had a nickle for everytime fcabb counted something for a youtuber,I'd have 2 nickles which isnt alot but its weird that it happend twice Great vid btw

[@Fcabb]

😭

[@Jackalmercenary-t7y]

I feel there is one tactic that can work but it would only work before the invasion the operation would be simple plant Arkham mercs inside the GCPD hq have them “enlist” in the police force eventually when the Arkham mercenaries invade GCPD would be occupied in the hq eventually when plans are executed I would then give command to the undercover mercs to plant explosives in the underground garage and then the GCPD hq is gone along with all the officers in it

[@alberto6305]

Batman is not suicidal, if he sees a fight he can’t win he retreats. It’ll only take one predator encounter for him to realize you know his tactics and change it up by having fox make a heavy armor suit and nonlethal bat weapons, he’ll even get a jetpack too like in TNBA.

[@ryszakowy]

you forgot that endgame goal was to cover entire easter seaboard in cloud of fear gas not to conquer gotham only factor that was stopping knight from killing batman as scarecrow wanting to destroy the hero in front of everyone

[@KristianDavies-tm3dv]

Lucius fox made a spare Batmobile

[@OneCruelAce]

Correct, however, that’s called in after defeating Jason, and Barbara being dropped off the roof. The point in which I’m talking about defeating him is before those events take place, therefore he wouldn’t need the spare, as he’d be gone.

[@levijoseph5262]

Or you can probably overtake Wayne tower since the Arkham Knight knows who Bruce Wayne actually is

[@MasterTemplar781]

I mean Batman could escape the arkham HQ. He doesn't have to fight the 116 soldiers. He could sneak around the air run into the elevator press the button to go up. Any soldiers in the elevator get beaten up. There can maximum maybe fit 10 soldiers in the elevator. They'd get beaten up. He'd then arrive at the rooftop were he'd be able to jump off and glide away. Without needing to fight. And if the Gordon and Barbara thing still take place that can also be dealt with. Batman causes a smoke bomb distraction so guards go there. He frees Gordon while taking out the remaining guards near gordon. Then takes Gordon to the elevator beats up the guards in the elevator. The scarecrow confrontation goes the same. And nothing would change. There are alot of ways for Batman to get past the 116 guards in the Arkham HQ.

[@churchilla5511]

Did you forget that Batman has a spare batmobile?

[@ChastaChapo]

Btw they spent 5 billion dollars on this entire army

[@shivamkanichhe8839]

Yep you got batman now superman comes in

[@Media__Pirate]

Not getting paid for that

[@TheBatman667]

That's easy. Get some kryptonite

[@incrediblesilliness]

Not getting paid for that

[@thrashertheory4273]

Another key point for the soldiers. Look. UP.

[@KodyCrimson]

This was an interesting theoretical video, never seen something like this.

[@dodowhisperer2114]

I would've added that since batman has to sneak up on a cobra tank to destroy it then if I would've had several other tanks surrounding it the Cobra so batman cant sneak up on it without getting spotted by the tiny tanks

[@TheSpeedBroo]

Theres a line by the arkham knight that hes got the city wired to blow *hence the mines* if theres any outside help so that covers like the first 5 minutes

[@erinaah2812]

i wasn't expecting this to be a literal "how would i do it", i was expecting it to be a mod that model swaped arkhan night and batman... this is also good and i loved it

[@de4d_x_v2]

Get this man in the military for his tactical genius

[@daph0307]

Nah. Batman's the smartest person on Earth, he can outsmart him and make him look like a fool.

[@de4d_x_v2]

@@daph0307 didn't even say anything about batman was just complementing Ace on his video

[@daph0307]

@@de4d_x_v2 because you think in the universe of the game it would work. It probably wouldn't. Is not difficult to understand.

[@ochher2873]

@@daph0307he didn’t even mention the arkham verse

[@daph0307]

@@ochher2873 me neither necessarily. You know what? If you get it you get it; if you don't, you don't. Can't be bothered.

[@ojsulyok8352]

why would they have "un manned tanks" knowing batman wont kill

[@10Someone0]

Well as Arkham Knight you’d also know all Batman’s secrets pretty

[@thecritic860]

“No plan survives contact with the enemy.”

[@Jaeden_Phoenix]

One of the main arguments I've seen is "Put men in the Tanks". Sure, that'd work... for a while. Oracle eventually finds a way to hack into the Tanks and effectively shut them down/turn them against the Militia. Whilst, yes, it doesn't make sense for the Tanks to all be remote controlled unless they were never meant to be all that useful, putting men in the Tanks would only work for so long.

[@pelmeni_va]

All they had to do was man the tanks.

[@smp279]

batman would probably just find a way to disable the tanks OS

[@wildrose7648]

@@smp279 Or cutting edge emp rounds

[@Eshtian]

Tbh, who here before Arkham Knight was announced would have predicted that Batman's solution to an army of Tanks would be a bat tank?

[@garfieldfan925]

Man.

[@tx1506]

Taking over batman's gear might limit him, such as the clock tower where the cloudburst scans where analyzed, which was also the place where the drones' weakness was discovered. Then moving to Wayne tower to use its facilities to further damage or strengthen the troops using gear made by Fox. This would give the Arkham Knight a major advantage over batman.

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

The biggest problem with stopping outside help is the fact that the Tanks the Knight has can't fight the American Abram tank due to the fact it's armour would bounce their 40mm cannons rounds, and the Abram's own 120MM would ripe them to shreds. In fact the US IFV Bradley could likely damage these tanks with it's own Gun or TOW missile, The Infantry can carry portable AT systems. Funny enough the Knight has more tanks than some first rate NATO member Armies do. Though the Knights tanks are more in the IFV range in terms of firepower than real MBT tanks. When you add in the US Navy and Airforce which are both have the ability to strike the watch towers from long range and also SEAD missile any AA systems, it would open up the island to an Amphibious assault by the US Marines and National Guard. The Bombs are the real and only effective detergent here, since you can stop them by hacking into their systems and power surging them to a controlled detonation. Also any such use of military forces takes days to prepare to such a response, something this Game does not give us since it's over in one Night. Seeing how fast and strong Superman is in Suicide Squad (which claims to be in this universe canon) He would have the speed along with Flash to remove the bombs or even the command structure before anyone can react in the militia. Don't Batman have a second Batmobile ready for use.

[@askaboutcesar]

I Love the fact that arkham knight exist honestly it’s just a great idea to name someone The Arkham Knight and have an awesome look and overall a good backstory from Jason Todd I just wish he wasn’t so emotional but yet it does fit the characters lore but overall Arkham Knight is one of my top 5 favorite characters in the Arkhamverse

[@Dezzywaiifu]

bro forgot the gadgets batman has such as the smoke pellet and other weapons that could help him get a leg up

[@sam1_2_1]

I have a few problems 1. The first is Arkham hq plan. what if Batman doesn't enter Arkham hq? If he realizes that it's a trap for him, he won't enter it and plan something else. He might just leave it be and try to clear all the checkpoints so that outside help can get in. 2. Batman pushing forward means that it's possible to lose many checkpoints and watchtowers. That will leave the city vulnerable to outside help and gcpd. It will be hard for outgoing bridges checkpoints but the watchtowers surrounding the islands are easy targets for batman. Then outside help can get in from air and water. 3. Jason (being former Robin) knows that Batman is Bruce Wayne. Then Wayne tower must be captured early so batman won't be able to resupply, or summon his batwing, the spare batmobile or other bat-things he has. If it's not possible to capture the building, just shoot the building with tanks and deploy soldiers until the building is destroyed or it's heavily damaged. Though that would somewhat reveal his identity at least to the soldiers. To cover that up, he can do the same thing with some other places too.

[@Qrepros]

the factions need some videos based on them...

[@Carrion0409]

You forgot to factor in batman's greatest trick. Plot armor.

[@myself8354]

Having the soldiers huddled together in a square formation is actually bad because batman can just smoke the area and take them all down with his fear take down. To counter this you could have snipers equipped with thermal goggles. positioned around the area with some sentries to guard them. The key is to spread your soldiers out so batman can't take them down very quickly jumping from one to another. But not so far he can just pick them off 1 by 1. It's a delicate balance and the exact composition and positioning would depend on the environment.

[@ixdffg3572]

Just stack 2 of the cobra drones back to back. Their only weak point is their back and if they are back to back it becomes much harder to destroy them. They could also put 4 back to back with each other and theyd be virtually indestructible aside from say the batwing having some kind of missile but if thats the case batman shouldve already used it

[@cdragonxy9060]

Very good plan. Love that you utilized AK’s equipment in logical ways, unlike Jason. But my only question is what are you going to do about the Bat Family?

[@illuminatidad]

The Arkham knight hq plan only works if Batman doesn’t have prep time. Batman can usually smell traps fast. However even with your strategy it wouldn’t work because Batman could just disable the elevator and take everyone out on the roof with his batplane. Instead, have a small group inside the building, with gargoyles primed, mines placed and sentry turrets everywhere. Then when Batman takes them out, have a large group of detective vision proof henchmen that were waiting before, pop out in a surprise atttack from within the building. At the same time blow the elevator. Make sure that all vents on the wall are covered otherwise Batman may find a way out.

[@MasterTemplar781]

Here's how i'd take over Gotham as the arkham knight. To eliminate outside help i'd use 3 of the 14 bombs to blow up the 3 bridges. Then i'd have 11 bombs left. 3 of the 11 bombs would be placed in Gotham's 3 main islands according to Bruce the explosions would be big so it'd still work to keep outside heroes away. I'd put a guy in every tank which means Batman has the hold back this time because he can't kill them. Making it harder for batman to destroy the tanks without blowing them up. So i'd lose what about 300 men. Out of the 917? I think that was the number. I'd let batman take over the islands and when he arrives i have got the surprise for him. The last 8 bombs would be placed in the arkham HQ. I'd plant 200 men in the HQ each equipped with Detective vision blocking suits and be able to also spot it when batman uses detective vision. I'd plant 10 drones each controlled by a brute also wearing x ray blocking suits. Drones equipped with tasers. I'd plant 100 tanks outside of the arkham HQ. Have 10 flying helicopter drones surrounding the rooftop. Have 40 men on the rooftop. So while Batman is busy dealing with the drones and militia. I'd detenote the entire building with those 8 bombs. Killing Batman. If Batman somehow survives. He'd then have to deal with 10 heli drones and 100 tanks without a batmobile because if the batmobile gets near it'd get shot down by the tanks and drones instantly. Meaning Batman dies. And i'd shoot Scarecrow in the face just so that he doesn't ruin my plan. With that the Bat is dead. Then an assault on the GCPD get's launched using the 300 tanks 10 helicopter drones. The remaining 417 men. 717 if you count the men in the tanks. The GCPD is destroyed. And with that Gotham is now mine. And lastly i'd detetonate those 3 bombs on the island for good measure. Then call a meeting with the villains and order my men to kill them. And boom i run gotham now.

[@ToxicCatMC]

Bro roasted tf out of them in the first 5 seconds 💀

[@BRDoriginal]

1 easy way to nerf batman is to man the drones. Them he cant blow them up without killing. Even if he could disable, it would likely be repairable

[@Dagger722]

And Batman still would have found a way to stop you😂

[@OneCruelAce]

100% possible!

[@kroo702]

we trick batman into following a militia van (like the penguin mission) bring him to a fake headquarters filled with fear toxin and turrets forcing him to bring the batmobile so we get 200 tanks around him making 100% sure ne cant stop us. We make a deal with two face and cobblepot to give them alot of money if they help us. He wont fall for the trap unless he sees the arkham knight talking with the soldiers then as soon as he starts fighting us 300 soldiers come in and shoot him while arkham knight finishes the job

[@cancankr8867]

With plot armor anything is possible lol EDIT: This guy below me is the sole reason i hate batman fanboys 😂😂😂

[@daph0307]

​@@cancankr8867he's the smartest character in DC universe.

[@courier6960]

I think the main flaw in this deployment and the arkham knights deployment is not the what and where things are deployed, but rather the HOW. If you know Batman has a no kill rule, why are you making the tanks unmanned? Put hostages inside them (or even better, put hostages in only a handful, so he’s likely to accidentally kill someone or second guessing himself / checking beforehand, buying you a couple extra seconds), or execute a hostage or civilian every time one goes down and scatter the hostages everywhere with no centralized system of communication or confirmation. Make it impossible to decode their locations in the time frame scarecrow set, that will break bat,and spirit and give you time to enact dozens of other schemes and plans. If your the Arkham knight, you know how Batman’s gadgets all work, use them against him! Get his thermal vision to detect false life signs in people, use ECM’s to block outward communication and his electronics, set-up analog bombs and mines in vents, set up in places that lack vantage points, or a million other things I could probably think of

[@godofbanana2473]

There is a theory saying that Jason wanted to kill batman for revenge and then he would replace batman as the vigilant who protects Gotham which means he can't make his crew to overpowered or the villains overpowered

[@TimsburyTheAnimator]

Why, instead of guarding the bridges with 40 tanks, don't you just blow up the bridges + guard them (just in case) with 10 or 5 tanks.

[@kormanTheShadowLord]

What about Batman's smoke bombs? There aren't any thermogoggles in the events of Arkham Knight's invasion of Gotham City. You could employ those said goggles for the Militia

[@legion566]

He can beat the militia soldiers with plot armor

[@Thatbendyfan_]

I always thought it was dumb that these militia soldiers were trained by someone who intricately knows how Batman operates, and yet they were never told to just look up, which in this same game is said to be the first rule of Gotham

[@Warpded]

If Crane wasn't so obsessed with breaking The Bat, you wouldn't even need all this. Batman would die just outside Ace. Obviously, you have to suspend your disbelief for the game's plot. Hell, the militia could could just switch to manned drones. Maybe they could tie soldiers to the drones too. Batman couldn't risk the lives of the soldiers, even if they are the enemy. I think it would be best if this change was executed about 60% through the story. Sure, Batman would adapt, but it would complicate things quite a bit. It essentially takes his 60mm cannon out of the fight. Even the Vulcan would be insanely risky. Imagine they hide a man or two inside a drone, and Batman takes it out like all the others. Batman is now a bona fide killer now. He loses!

[@The_man_with_no_face]

Except Batman was prepared from the start to do things non leathal

[@mrsuperherofan_8897]

What about the potential metahuman threats? Poison Ivy, Freeze, and even outside superheroes like Flash or Superman could pose a significant threat

[@Lumantrix]

To be fair in the actual game Superman and flash did not come to help

[@taramaforhaikido7272]

What about them? A target is a target. That's the priority. Others would just get in the way. But they're not on the hit list. A nuke can work against Batman. Superman could just get away from it due to his speed. If the goal is Batman though then he's the target. Not Superman. Distraction/decoy tactics would work better for others that get in the way.

[@djdudeface4407]

Great vid bro 👍

[@Suffice2]

But you forgot about robin nightwing and Azerial

[@Charlestheopp]

When Batman goes to stealth sections. I would just put drones everywhere and have Al large militia be miniguners and place mines in all areas including vantage points and have no space for the batmombile to come in. And have detective mode jammers everywhere. Batman would be overwhelmed and unable to move basically and die

[@stavroulamaroulakou6451]

Listen so my plan would be for the three islands will be: Conquer all the streets and put more than 100 tanks in each state also i will get watchtowers in all the buildings they will be more than 25 people in each building and 50 men in some key buildings. Aftter that i would rise all the bridges so the batmobile would stay in bleake island. Also i would put many checkpoints in all the islands i think maybe 20 in each island with more than 30 people in it and 7 of them would be medkits. I would put bombs everywhere so batman woudnt get anywhere with the batmbole. Also the bridges will be protected by the cobra tanks and(also 10 drones will be watching them) and we will have over 100 men in each bridge watchtowers which will be guarding them. In the game we only had 12 drones in whole gotham but I will have more than 100 drones in order to secure each island and i will put more in order to protect the men in the watchtowers maybe 5 in each watchtower the other 100 drones will be roaming in the islands (not 100 in the whole gotham but in each island) also i will give guns to all the thugs in order to roaming the streets with guns so it would be harder for batman to be able to deafeat me as Arkham Knight also i will increase brutes everywhere (checkpoints watchtowers etc.) Also the base for the milittia will be 10 times more heavily guarded than whole gotham so batman wouldnt be able to get in. I will also sabotage batmans secret base in the movie studios so i will go in there and free harley queen and put her in control with many of her thugs along side with the militia if will put more than 50 people guarding the outside along side with tanks cobra tanks watch towers checkpoints bombs so batman wouldnt get access to his base. Also the ACE chemicals will be heavilly guarded, the blimps and the big towers 20 times more than the movies studios and gotham. It took me so long to write this so please dont hate if i misspell something wrong thanks for your time

[@darthvaderreviews6926]

This is a really interesting scenario, but I can't say your proposed solution is too great. The Arkham HQ plan especially has tons of holes, like what if Batman blew up the elevator? Then your 191 soldiers are split up into digestible squads. My own take: Batman has said he considers his greatest weakness to be psychological, in regards to his rules & hero complex. Taking inspiration from that, and the Knightfall plan which beat Arkhamverse Batman in the past, I would set up a chain of hostages on timed bombs around the island, freeing one revealing the next in sequence. Jason could use his knowledge of Batman's patrols to figure out an ideal schedule, to make sure only Batman could realistically reach and free them in time, as he's much faster than his apprentices. This would need to be planned out beforehand on a need to know basis through verbal instruction, so there's no record of where all the hostages are and soldiers only know where their hostage will be, nobody else. To stop Batman from relying on his allies to free the hostages, they'd need to be guarded in varied and dangerous ways to stop the GCPD from helping, and other less serious situations would have to be triggered to distract the BatFam. To give us setup time and stopping Batman from getting the sense that we're totally wasting his time, there'd need to be "break" periods to let Batman have a bit of agency over the night again before another hostage chain starts. If we say every hostage accounts for an average of 5 minutes per rescue, we only need ~50 to keep Batman occupied for _four straight hours_ of constant activity rescuing hostages. If we assign a squad of four per hostage, this only occupies 200 of our soldiers, too. This is not only on top of all the other shenanigans the villains are throwing at Batman that night, but can enhance it, because we can predict Batman's routes and inform villains in advance so they can take advantage, resulting in Batman going into Deadshot's line of fire, or being in a basement when Scarecrow detonates the city-encompassing fear gas bomb. This would hugely magnify the exhaustion of the night, which in the main scenario already pushed Batman to the brink.

[@LeoHardwicke]

Well, the main way I think the Arkham knight ran the militia in the way he did with the car. After he kills Batman he betrayed scarecrow becomes red hood and we now have to defeat what’s ever left of the Malaysia. Sabah makes sense why he would give himself a easier time.

[@MasPy21]

the first time i played arkham knight 7 years ago i was completing the story for the first time and was at the GCPD lockup then asked "why didnt they just send kobra tanks with the small ones?" small me was smart as hell if im honest

[@ancient-rhinowang6641]

but what if batman calls outside help back in immediately after he takes back each island

[@jaimedominiguez423]

They cooking with Arkham knight suit

[@ArkhamKnight80-k5v]

Nice if I made this game I would have more stuff for the milita and nice watchdogs joke

[@callmejacob3234]

Arkham Batman is too big of a menace to be taken down. Unless he's nerfed then you can just shoot him in the head.

[@Jaggedfire]

*cough cough* SSKTJL *cough cough*

[@playboikylo7933]

​@@Jaggedfire Yeah. Nerfed.

[@taramaforhaikido7272]

Nothing short of a nuke on Batman is going to stop him. Just nuke him. Batman would just deconstruct an army. If that doesn't work then nuke the butler and Batman's other allies. The only reason it didn't work with Scarecrow was because it wasn't real when Batman saw it.

[@bruhmoments6501]

Don't let this man enter a villain arc

[@blackspider3839]

Amazing video

[@ThegreatHera420]

Honestly all of this is just speculation based on someone who has played the game. It’s kind of like going back to the past expecting all the events to play out the same way. Or like saying it’s easy to guess Batman’s secret identity purely on not only knowing he is Bruce Wayne, but knowing motivation and how he can be Batman. In addition there’s also gameplay vs story/lore, the idea is the tactics were flawless but Batman always manages the impossible. It’s kind of the whole point. Like another example is the size of Gotham is probably a lot smaller than it would be in the real world. Another thing is Arkham knight in large part wanted Batman to be in the stage of giving up. What’s needed for that to happen is Batman has to fail to stop scarecrows gas from controlling the whole city, in addition Batman has to fail to protect his allies(Arkham knight was actually successful in doing that). The main issue was Ivy existed.

[@Blankavatar-y4v]

How would you handle scarecrows push back to killing him?

[@Colbs1107]

Love this idea, there’s just one thing What about Robin and nightwing?

[@deepvoicedude4749]

In the story, Arkham Knight wouldn't want them to die. He explicitly wanted Barbara to live, so I have to assume he'd want the same with those two. He blames Bruce for his death, not Dick and Tim.

[@cookieman5112]

​@@deepvoicedude4749 yeah but dick and Tim would probably be somewhat pissed off if bruce died

[@ikari0133]

If the batwing was usable the checkpoints with tanks and watch towers would have been rendered useless from the start and I’m not even joking, having twin soldiers back each other will just make them easy stun targets for the dual batarang skill

[@DeathMessenger1988]

First off: I'd have Bane and Deathstroke leading the army, with them bringing their own personal militias too if possible. Second: Have Deadshot, Firefly, Copperhead, Boomerang, Harley Quinn and Riddler work together as an elite assault squad to harass Batman across the city as he moves. Third: Since we already know WHERE he operates from, target GCPD, Wayne Tower and Wayne Manor right off the bat (pun intended). If not immediate assault, then setting up traps (especially via the dungeon-like sewers) even BEFORE the invasion started. The best way to defeat Batman is NOT LETTING HIM DICTATE THE FLOW OF BATTLE. Deny him prep time and easy access to his resources. Put his allies in danger so he'll delay any of his major plans so he can go and save them. Grind him down till he's exhausted; not by numbers, but by the sheer number of fires he'll have to put out.

[@Mad_Man_Ham]

What i'd have done is have teams of expert soldiers attack multiple key points of interest at once, Batman, Nightwing and Robin together stop 3 of them, each stopping 1? Congrats, you stopped 3 out of 8 simultaneously executed plans. I still win 5 of them, all they'll have achieved is slightly slow me down. Or each stop 2 of them? I still advance 2 of them. And with the amount of resources Arkham Knight had, merely 8 simultaneous plans is very modest. There could be 40 simultaneous plans. Another thing is, releasing other villains from Arkham Asylum or prison and getting them on board with the plan, with well equipped goons supporting them, each villain commanding an expert squad of their own for each goal. And/Or paying each of them a couple million dollars to attack a certain point of interest, giving each a goal they could work on without disrupting our own plans or each other. Like, Riddler and Bane assigned to take down Wayne Manor and Wayne Enterprises, Penguin and Two-Face assigned to take down GCPD with their resources, with support from Arkham Knight's tanks, there's also characters that support Batman in the game because they're reasonable and Batman told them why they should help him, but could be persuaded to the opposite side due to the same reason, these are Mister Freeze and Poison Ivy. Mister Freeze could be convinced to help you by giving funds to help his wife's treatments, and/or getting him the guy responsible for all of it so he could get his revenge. Poison Ivy can be persuaded by promising and keeping a promise to protect her plants, maybe taking down some polluting factories elsewhere as well. Deathstroke could've been hired to train soldiers better, not just tactics but mentality and skills as well, or have his own personal squad of experts to hunt Robin and/or Nightwing. Batman i believe he'd just slow down, but taking down any or both of his sidekicks would break a lot of his will, and in any case remove a helper of his. Arkham Knight could've revealed Batman's identity as well, in the very beginning. His entire behavior/motivation in the game is essentially a tantrum: Being very upset and expressing that, but not finishing the job despite having had the opportunity so many times in the game. Point is, there's a lot of options Arkham Knight could've done but he was merely throwing a big shitstorm of a tantrum.

[@dreechte]

Well batman has a batmobile backup, the batwing and probabalby some more preparations also scarecrow the one who is in command wouldnt let you kill Batman. Other thing to consider: would everything workout like that? Because are you the arkham knight in that situation or are you a new character?

[@shadowmomochiuchiha6839]

Wait until Batman comments on this with how he could beat you.

[@linkmon12]

See I thought the whole plain was to destroy Gotham, Then reveal batman is Bruce Wayne and then kill him.

[@NickDunkel-rz5cr]

Batman Arkham Videos would ANNIHILATE your 119 soldiers (he is the canon Arkham batman)

[@Fcabb]

Nice vid acee 💙

[@JsPookieBear]

If i were the Arkham Knight, i would put a 'sheild' on every gun/device the Militias have (the sheild thing Arkham Knight has on his gun so Batman cant use the disruptor on it) and make sure there were Aerial Drones covering watchtowers so it would be hard for Batman to disable the watchtowers. If he gets past those, he would have to beat 10 ( more or less) armed Militia, in which would be hard since there would be around 4 Medics, so Batman would have to go for the Medics first. For the tanks, i would make them more *'TANK'*y (I’m so funny) so they would take a few more shots to destroy. For the checkpoints, i would add 5 of those tanks (whatever you call them) that are in a few checkpoints, and close off any route that the Batmobile could get in to and destroy them, and cover the corners with sentry guns + the middle, with hidden snipers covering the area. Now for the bombs, i would do something similar to you, but i would make them harder to get to, meaning the Batmobile would have to destroy some stuff to get to them, and that's where the problem for Batman would be, yes he could easily disable the bombs once he gets to them, and like i said, he has to destroy a few things, and i would be smart enough to have them close to building, so Batman would potentially destroy a few buildings. Next, we have the Cloudburst, i would try to cover any potential weak points, so it would be harder for Batman to destroy the Cloudburst, and if he destroyed it, well, then we get to the bigger stuff... The Arkham Knight HQ. I would have a bunch of snipers covering the entire HQ, and have a landmine under the manhole that Batman enters to get underneath the Militia, so Batman would be forced to take damage, and maybe add a sentry gun behind him, so he would have to react fast to blind the senty gun, if he does and reaches the part where he sees Gordon being taken, and I would quickly warn the Militia to switch channels so Batman cant use the voice synthesizer to trick them. And if he manages to somehow get past them, he would have to avoid what I call: "The Arkham Mecha" (That sounded better in my head 😭) The Arkham Mecha would come into the room from the roof and grab Batman, throwing him into the "fans", hopefully killing him, if it does, then I initiate "The Knight's Wrath" (also sounded better in my head) What this does is all of the Remaining tanks swarm the GCPD, shooting at it and then it finally crumbles down. If the "fans" don't kill Batman, (If he uses his Grapnel Gun to get out, ECT), he would be greeted by 13 armed soilders, all Medics, and if he beats them, we go to where the excavator boss fight begins, i would actually avoid the explosions by going to the side, and possibly catching Batman off guard, making him loose his grip on the steering wheel, so he crashes, and rubble falls ontop of the Batmobile, in which i would take advantage of and finally kill The Batman, and then i would initiate "The Knight's Wrath" (I suck with names) Where all the remaining tanks swarm GCPD and bring it down, in which we now win, tanks and other drones swarming all the islands as we take over Gotham.