How important is Chinese tech to Europe?

Europe is reversing its approach to China, tightening rules on trade and investment, and pushing back on Chinese tech. So what’s behind the change in policy towards one of the EU’s biggest trading partners?
Guests:
Einar Tangen
Senior Fellow at the Taihe Institute
Ge Chen
Professor in Global Media & Information Law at Durham University
Mary-Ann Russon
Technology Journalist
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[@mejiger]

This so-called westerners saying unfair trade practices is a joke of the century

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

Europe🇪🇺 to Indonesia 🇮🇩You can export raw goods like n Nickel,Aluminum, and lithium but not batteries or Electric car 🗿🗿

[@askyalumumba3573]

They are just terrified of being dominated by a non - white country.

[@chriswong9158]

@@carkawalakhatulistiwa For those "added high end tech value" Chinese manufacture offer to the World.

[@chriswong9158]

How funny westerners like to change their own "Rules" just because Chinese read & follows.

[@michaelgothenburg364]

Of course you can buy clothes from Bangladesh, Pakistan and India everywhere in China, right? There are no clothes for sale in China that also were made in China any longer because the factories are all bankrupt and have closed down because clothes made in Bangladesh, Pakistan and India are much cheaper. Or???????????????????????????? Maybe not. That's because China has what China calls trade wars with those countries and China's import taxes are so high that these countries can't sell clothes to China. Hypocrite.

[@usa-racistwarmachine3631]

Anti China keep saying what China could do Instead of what the West had done.

[@tonym842]

The west IS STILL DOING!

[@dongshengdi773]

​@@tonym842 very true, Chyna banning all Google services and All social media like Facebook Twitter and Instagram is undermining freedom of speech.

[@whiteface8745]

Well said, we can do, but not you

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

Yea, had done, decades and a century also. Not today duh

[@kckoay6211]

China was at the receiving end of the full brunt of the Western combined forces, led by the U.K., France and U.S. during the First Opium War (1839-1842), the Second Opium War (1857-1858) and the Eight-Nations Alliance (1900-1901). The Opium Wars were triggered off by China’s resistance to the sale of opium to its citizens by the foreign powers. The addictive opium was the main source of exports pushed by the West in order to alter the balance of trade with China in their favour. China was forced, at gunpoint literally, to sign unfair treaties. These unequal treaties (signed during the 19th and early 20th centuries) between China and the U.S., the U.K., France, Germany, Russia and Japan, were one-sided requiring China to legalise opium import, cede land, pay reparations, open treaty ports, give up tariff autonomy, and grant extraterritorial privileges to foreign citizens. Fast forward today, the demand for Chinese products again outstripped China’s appetite for products that the West would sell to China. Underpinned by China’s substantial comparative advantage, the Chinese manufacturing products of comparable or superior quality are a lot cheaper - all made possible by China’s huge domestic market, comprehensive industry chain, well educated and highly skilled labor force, and their relentless pursuit for scientific and technological innovation. What China has achieved had ostensibly rattled the U.S., the E.U. and Japan who see themselves as the industrial kingpins, especially in the automotive industry and other high tech sectors. Not only had China emerged as the world largest producer and exporter of automobiles, it has also fortified its position as the new kingpin in the new energy and communication technology. Truth be told, the delicate economic relationship between the so-called Liberal West and China is still very much trapped in the imperialist psyche of the former. The West wants the cheap goods produced in China. They also want to dominate the huge Chinese market. But at the same time, they are fearful of China’s ability to innovate and ultimately leave them in the dust. It is a convoluted love-hate feeling so to speak. But caught up with the West China did. It is now the new industrial and economic superpower. It is already the world’s largest economy by purchasing power parity. “China’s post-pandemic surplus in manufacturing - which has now reached about two percent of world GDP - far exceeds the peak surpluses run by export powerhouses like Japan and Germany. More importantly, China’s surplus shows no signs of shrinking. While there was a pause in the expansion of the surplus in 2023, that only came after a huge jump between 2018 and 2022. And now, Chinese policy continues to emphasize upgrading China’s capacity in advanced manufacturing as a major driver of future growth,”said Michael Weilandt, and Volkmar Bauer of Union Investment, and Brad Setser. Clearly, to Washington the greatest leverage against its new found peer competitor will have to come from a collective approach involving its allies - accompanied by a collective, coordinated, and sustained effort - to isolate and to deny China the access to advanced and cutting-edge technology. However, such belligerent denial strategy not only had failed to work, but it had actually speeded up China’s push towards innovation and technological self-reliance. A case in point is Washington’s ongoing efforts to strangle China’s semiconductor industry thinking that the latter still lags behind the global semiconductor industry by approximately ten years, as Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger had posited. In 2019, the US requires Huawei, and other manufacturers to apply for permission to buy technology from the Commerce Department. In October 2022, the U.S. went further by banning foreign manufacturers, such as Dutch ASML, by far the largest manufacturer of photolithography equipment, from supplying to Chinese customers. A belligerent behaviour much to the chagrin of the like of Microsoft’s co-founder Bill Gates, who had said that the US would not be able to achieve the desired result and limit Beijing’s ambitions through procurement restrictions or sanctions. Washington thought that such sanctions would effectively left the Chinese without 5G chips. But by August 2023, Huawei had launched its new Mate 60 and other devices with its in-house 5G chips. Such belligerent behaviour was a clear case of underestimating China’s highly skilled labor force and its capacity for innovation and adaptation. Fast forward to 2024, China had successfully produced the 7nm and 5 nm chips. The U.S. orchestrated hostility towards China is reminiscent of the “Gunboat Policy”. But, this time, only to be disguised in ideological rhetorics, national security concerns, geopolitics, and threat of wars in both East and South China Sea; as well as the now infamous Janet Yellen’s so-called China’s “over capacity”.

[@ninersnation3298]

Good job, but you wrote too long dude!! the G8 were and still terrible...the west are paying up on karma, too many homeless, no money, too much debt, too many wars, G8 societies are falling apart.

[@user-ui2ox4ux3z]

Very brilliant analysis indeed. Congratulation.

[@passby8070]

Yep, there are no fairness in geo politics. It is still gun boat diplomacy, except that the guns are ideology, sanctions, and media.

[@kckoay6211]

@@user-ui2ox4ux3z 🙏

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

The true 😊

[@yapsiauwsoengie6507]

Competition need to be fair? Like what? Like ancient opium trade? Forcing others to follow your rule?

[@sciagurrato1831]

The west is completely transparent. “Fair” is one-sided. Right vs wrong is a moral issue. That means the west is rudderless as there is no moral basis for their societies.

[@michaelgothenburg364]

Of course you can buy clothes from Bangladesh, Pakistan and India everywhere in China, right? There are no clothes for sale in China that also were made in China any longer because the factories are all bankrupt and have closed down because clothes made in Bangladesh, Pakistan and India are much cheaper. Or???????????????????????????? Maybe not. That's because China has what China calls trade wars with those countries and China's import taxes are so high that these countries can't sell clothes to China. Hypocrite.

[@zidane3250]

When they had the monopoly, everything was just fine. But now that China has emerged as a competitor and disrupted their dominance, suddenly it's not okay.

[@user-uv3li8tk4r]

That occurred over 100 years ago. It was foreign investment and technology in the 1980’s to 1990’s that brought china out of the poverty trap communist policies put it in. Without the west, mao’s Id!otic policies caused the largest famine in man kind’s history. Today China claims to have eradicated poverty but then on the other hand claims developing country status with the wto, in effect forcing western countries to subsidize the shipping of their goods. They manipulate their currency to gain unfair trade advantages, steal the intellectual property of western firms looking to produce in china and then kick them out and profit from technology developed and patented by western firms through heavy investment, without incurring the investment cost of developing said technology. They’re taking advantage of the west and it’s about time we put a stop to it

[@gieroland8923]

What you mean that China in XXI century come back to colonial times without rules ?

[@Gman979]

So much errors and misinformation on China by the host again. Einar is the best unbiased speaker on China overall.

[@magnaviator]

Amen. China needs to step up and push back. The US continue to push lies and anti-China propaganda unhindered.

[@michaelgothenburg364]

Of course you can buy clothes from Bangladesh, Pakistan and India everywhere in China, right? There are no clothes for sale in China that also were made in China any longer because the factories are all bankrupt and have closed down because clothes made in Bangladesh, Pakistan and India are much cheaper. Or???????????????????????????? Maybe not. That's because China has what China calls trade wars with those countries and China's import taxes are so high that these countries can't sell clothes to China.

[@tonywyli]

China didn't ban KZbin, Facebook... These platforms choose to leave China market since they were unwilling to operate in China abiding Chinese laws.

[@stephenlock7236]

Something the US controlled western media never state in their reportings of such issues.

[@michaelgothenburg364]

There used to be millions of posts on Chinese social media about 彭帅. Did they disappear because she is bad? You think it's right that they should disappear. We don't.

[@dongshengdi773]

yes, they were asked to leave , Chyna banning all Google services and All social media like Facebook Twitter and Instagram is undermining freedom of speech.

[@LCCATCX]

@@dongshengdi773 Not true. Google left because they didn't want to comply with the local laws, They were considering to re-enter again a few years ago. Microsoft decided to comply. MS Bing is the second largest search engine in China.

[@MRT-co1sd]

@@dongshengdi773Said by an Indian who doesn’t understand China….LoL

[@user-ii1gv1cv2m]

land of the greed, home of the hypocrites....

[@T39582]

Land of Sodomites

[@user-ev9gg5zk7b]

Euro already bullied by NORDSTREAM issues

[@alanssshh]

and nobody in Europe dare to talk about it that's the power of American soldiers in Europe

[@jhngfdsdfgkjnbv]

​​@@alanssshhYes, this question with any liberal ends any dialogue (about an explosion on gas pipelines). They just go silent like sheep.

[@deltrinos]

when Huawei releases its lithography machine, the real loser will be Europe, nothing more to say. top time in 18 months

[@louistan7560]

Ursula is still in dream coma. A walking Zombie Master ushering European zombies to their deaths.

[@huanghermann5207]

Why a problem, not an opportunity? Is it just because of free competition?

[@chriswong9158]

“In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity” ― Sun-Tzu China PRC will continue to look forward.

[@michaelgothenburg364]

Of course you can buy clothes from Bangladesh, Pakistan and India everywhere in China, right? There are no clothes for sale in China that also were made in China any longer because the factories are all bankrupt and have closed down because clothes made in Bangladesh, Pakistan and India are much cheaper. Or???????????????????????????? Maybe not. That's because China has what China calls trade wars with those countries and China's import taxes are so high that these countries can't sell clothes to China. Free competition?

[@ianthesiow3013]

America calls it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question... Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government) China 1949 to early 1960s Albania 1949-53 East Germany 1950s Iran 1953 * Guatemala 1954 * Costa Rica mid-1950s Syria 1956-7 Egypt 1957 Indonesia 1957-8 British Guiana 1953-64 * Iraq 1963 * North Vietnam 1945-73 Cambodia 1955-70 * Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 * Ecuador 1960-63 * Congo 1960 * France 1965 Brazil 1962-64 * Dominican Republic 1963 * Cuba 1959 to present Bolivia 1964 * Indonesia 1965 * Ghana 1966 * Chile 1964-73 * Greece 1967 * Costa Rica 1970-71 Bolivia 1971 * Australia 1973-75 * Angola 1975, 1980s Zaire 1975 Portugal 1974-76 * Jamaica 1976-80 * Seychelles 1979-81 Chad 1981-82 * Grenada 1983 * South Yemen 1982-84 Suriname 1982-84 Fiji 1987 * Libya 1980s Nicaragua 1981-90 * Panama 1989 * Bulgaria 1990 * Albania 1991 * Iraq 1991 Afghanistan 1980s * Somalia 1993 Yugoslavia 1999-2000 * Ecuador 2000 * Afghanistan 2001 * Venezuela 2002 * Iraq 2003 * Haiti 2004 * Somalia 2007 to present Honduras 2009 * Libya 2011 * Syria 2012 Ukraine 2014 * 2014 - 2022 - 9 countries yet to verify. Pakistan 2022 * Haiti 2022 * Niger 2023

[@michaelwang6125]

Ugh a large sum of the * is not related to USA and in fact... an unstable Haiti produce more problem for USA than any gain from it. You also missed a large sum of the Africa nation that had a wave of military coup (... which Russia's proxy is supporting); why did you neglect mentioning it. As for Why other developed nation are still choosing Washington over Beijing... I think it ultimately comes down to - the better of the 2 BADs...., especially for those in Asia such as Philippine-etc. One wants 'trades' while the latter ones to annex you; hard choice lol.

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

The west vs the rest of World

[@michaelwang6125]

@@carkawalakhatulistiwa are you saying Japan/Philippine/S.Korea are part of the West now? Cause all 3 of them seem to had directly or indirectly united in preparation to confront Beijing who wants to claim 90% of the SCS; despite losing its claim at UN court to Philippine.

[@gieroland8923]

Lot of bullsht and you dont say that you have capitalism or internet becouse USA kill comunists or nazi

[@gieroland8923]

Lot of bullsht for example Yougoslavia it was domestic war not any invasion and all nations they arę happy now without Yougoslavia

[@LL-rm8xt]

With 5g, UK shot itself in the foot, we now have one of the worst 5g speeds in Europe and Europe was found to have been overtaken in 5g speeds by DEVELOPING countries.... You can't make it up. Spent tonnes of money needlessly removing something that we had already had software and hardware access to via GCHQ which at best turned up some vulnerabilities that ALL software has. Huawei, in all likelihood was MORE secure than Ericsson or Nokia specifically because it was under the microscope. Something that Ericsson or Nokia would never accept..lol

[@frankm6218]

We know for sure Nokia and Erickson have CIA back doors; however we are unsure if Huawei has Chinese back doors as Huawei has been under microscope for long time.

[@magnaviator]

Racism has a price.

[@passby8070]

yep, while quality of life in China has dramatically improved, UK, US and much of Europe is in free fall thanks to your politicians...

[@chriswong9158]

No lost for the Chinese manufacture received 5G order(s) from ASAIN members cities network.

[@Sonyhamster]

I moved to China from the UK and now live on a remote island. I have 2Gbps internet for £20. In the U.K. you would be paying easily £40 for 1Gbps, and that’s the limit. Here it goes up to 10Gbps!!

[@leoncioco3305]

The woman n Einer Tangen make sense w/ their answer. The professor from Germany makes no sense. Einer is right in saying, the professor is just regurgitating US talking points.

[@Mawutor247]

Does Europe have American tech problem?

[@summer031977]

Europe doesn't have an American tech problem.

[@jerronng6036]

Eu happily give up their inventions to US on crude based ordering.

[@TheMarcuslindberg]

Europe have an over relience on US services. Big tech like Google, Microsoft, Meta, Amazon dominate. Diversification, regulation and taxation is needed to open up the marketplace for competition.

[@pisablavatsky-cb3dd]

Europe is a vassal state of US. It doesn't dare to say a word against its own master

[@liujason2091]

They know there are actual problems that have been existing for long time, however they pretend that can't see it.

[@PisithThanasaethsakul]

Most misinformation is China not allow Facebook and KZbin in China. Reality is FB or YT must Create a Chinese version to be in China, same way as Douyin and TikTok to comply with the laws.

[@thesheepthemightythecrazy]

China only required them to have data servers in China, not in the USA. FB, YT, GG couldn't even do that.

[@lucyblueeyes3858]

China does not "ban" Western social media. It is that Western social media choose not to comply with Chinese laws. Tik Tok complies with American laws.

[@LaBambaCL]

16:49 "what politicians know about technology, it's next to nothing" ------

[@bbharatillusion4574]

Wow, Mary Ann, Europe need lots of your type of reasoning

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

China always great power

[@Myway0107]

China has NOT banned US social platforms but asked as US does those platforms to abide by Chinese laws to have their servers to be placed in China. These social platforms chooses to leave!

[@michaelgothenburg364]

There used to be millions of posts on Chinese social media about 彭帅. Did they disappear because she is bad?

[@michaelgothenburg364]

There used to be millions of posts on Chinese social media about 彭帅. Did they disappear because she is bad? You think it's right that they should disappear. We don't.

[@michaelgothenburg364]

There used to be millions of posts on Chinese social media about 彭帅. Did they disappear because she is bad? You think it's right that posts about her should disappear. We don't.

[@MRT-co1sd]

Yes, that’s why FSD Tesla is in China.

[@bobsmith3983]

The server issue was one of the reasons but the major one was their platforms weren't competitive and was being out competed by the various Chinese social media platforms. So they left voluntarily with their tails between their legs. Bottom line they were inferior to Chinese platforms and they couldn't handle it so they left to limit the embarrassment of failure.

[@dr.zschanel3671]

European cars and handbags are selling well in China. China is the biggest market in fact for those good, because they have value. Valuable European tech will also sell well, if they offer any.

[@happychappy7115]

VAG already chose the winning side, opening their new manufacturing base in China😊

[@shiulai5804]

Ge Chan should answer the question HONESTLY -- Would European companies( or American ones for that matter) be able to compete for infrastructure projects on Quality, Timelines and Price inside China, or Outside. His use ideologically babbling to AVOID answering the questions leads one to question his integrity.

[@Ahoooooooo]

Europe needs China, but also needs uncle Sam's approval to deal with China.

[@user-ii1gv1cv2m]

american pride goes before its fall.

[@danielwong2333]

Why dont west welcome Chinese great affordable technology gracefully which is good for the good of the majority

[@bartholomewsitoh7492]

Because the west cannot accept Asian superiority. It's not about China if India or Indonesia or south Korea or Japan were strong enough to challenge the west, they will stoop to perpetrate vile tactics to trip these countries. It's not about China it is about the west and american hypocrisy and inferiority complex

[@michaelgothenburg364]

Why doesn't China do it? Of course you can buy clothes from Bangladesh, Pakistan and India everywhere in China, right? There are no clothes for sale in China that also were made in China any longer because the factories are all bankrupt and have closed down because clothes made in Bangladesh, Pakistan and India are much cheaper. Or???????????????????????????? Maybe not. That's because China has what China calls trade wars with those countries and China's import taxes are so high that these countries can't sell clothes to China.

[@passby8070]

1:11 thats a bs, EU does as much if not more subsidy on EVs than China, China is not selling EVs to Europe at a lost, they are substantially more expensive there than their home market. China had a 10 years of first advantage with battery tech and coherent policy support unlike western's reactive policies.

[@qake2021]

👏👏👍🇧🇷🇷🇺🇮🇳🇨🇳🇿🇦➕️‼️👏👏

[@fvalemus5377]

You guys loved to preach the free market and freedom when you are winning. Now, not so much heh? Lol. Unfair, unfair, crying like a lil spoiled baby.

[@rsyrsy8543]

Such excellent debate. I have got much clear idea of why US tries so hard to suppress China tech companies, and why Europe’s attitude towards China is so inconsistent.

[@wanalan9958]

My Volkswagan Touran 8 yrs ago also stop in the middle of the road due to engine failure.

[@GarySmithartist]

My. Understanding about the smart phones is that every major phone maker agrees to give the US govt full access to every phone call EXCEPT WAIWEI

[@paulitolee]

Let's remember that inside every Chinese product (in this case) there are tons of key components owned by serious and prestigious private non-chinese companies like in aviation, transportation and communications, all as result decades of human interaction with their best of the best capacity and good will.

[@herminator250]

Excellent discussion, thanks for sharing! I think more people need to be informed about complex topics that overlap tech and geopolitics.

[@hassenelmi4798]

Together is perfect Together I powerful

[@jamessinga6016]

Should many countries boycott telecommunications technologies because they are collecting personal data iPhone, Microsoft, Google and tweeters, Facebook etc and technical hardwares if there become national security.

[@peterlim3189]

Madame, what do you meant by fair pricing? That EU should set the price! What a bunch of idiots! 😊😊😊

[@jmg8246]

16:49 What politicians know about technology is like next to nothing... She summed it up EU politicians in one sentence...

[@funnyguyinlondon]

Europe is the belligerent

[@osam6356]

This was a well balanced discussion. Thank you.

[@evehawasinare228]

EU will eventually have to make trade and investment decisions in the interest of EU otherwise the economic consequences will be negative

[@demonridera]

In international relations, it's about power. No one is nice unless they have to be so. Begging for fairness will get you nowhere

[@johnwhoo6194]

Be honest, don't lie like politicians simply because you need to do it to make a living!

[@dailyindopak]

As Pakistani I would say that you can't blame america for it is doing,it is actually other nation's leaders who needs to be blame for not standing for their people and countries.Any person should not be in a situation of eutopia.they beleive in real politic and we must urge our governments to act like that.If americans were living by principles there would be no genocide going.if they can criticise russia for its war against ukraine they can do the same against israel but they are not and that is what makes them unique. they are just working for their advantages not even europeans they buy their leaders,MPs etc to influence europe policies in favour of americ and the best example is russia ukraine war.what europe has gained from that war,nothing but just de-industriliazation, so take it and follow real politic.

[@vincenttung5501]

Thank you so much you tell the truth

[@michaelgothenburg364]

There used to be millions of posts on Chinese social media about 豆腐渣工程 tofu dreg. Why?

[@4-SeasonNature]

The real issue is NOT whether or not Huawei's telecommunications equipment has backdoors (hence posing national security concerns). Rather, it IS whether or not Huawei's telecommunications equipment has backdoors for the U.S. government to eavesdrop on the whole world. If the answers to both questions are in the negative, Huawei's equipment is contradictorily too clean for the U.S. government.

[@w462dh]

Too clean. Well said. We all know what happen at the back of the stage in USA

[@danielwong2333]

Vonderle you are scare to compete on level playing field and your talks were only illusional and unfounded. All in your mind are imaginary shadow.

[@MikePapaFiver]

Europe has picked a side… the Chinese are moving on. Good luck Europe…

[@181soulgazer]

Great video... keep it up!

[@thomasho4825]

Good for you, lady

[@alitiger7813]

No jealous with China 🇨🇳

[@sepam82]

Economic lessons like dumping in classroom had always led me to question the effectiveness of such actions. Wouldn't it lead to the ultimate collapse of the economy that does this? Surely dumping cannot continue for long. I, therefore, do not subscribe to unfair competitions due to prolonged injections of funds from government because that country will finally fail and collapse. Business cannot thrive on subsidies. The cannot be competitive.

[@stephenlock7236]

Basis what you say, then there is nothing to worry about countries subsidising their industries. They will eventually fail. So why the endless accusations and villifications against China? Common sense would be to take advantage of such cheap and subsidised products from China, sit back and watch China fail.

[@bobsmith3983]

@@stephenlock7236 You would think that would be the wise thing to do but the West knows that their accusations about China are bogus. The West is trying to deflect from their own subsidies and lack of competitiveness.

[@Seyiwale6127]

They jealous all the time .

[@RB-eo4eq]

So the USA has been doing odd things through its big tech arms … so I guess it’s why they are so concerned about others doing the same 😂

[@PhantomOfManyTopics]

You cannot have it both ways.

[@mythbusterthe6749]

The sword cuts both way. Better watch out.

[@robm9113]

Selling "over-surplus products to the European market" is the non-sensical wording that Professor Ge Chen used; which is wording very similar to the "overcapacity" accusations recently used by the US state department to try to demonize Chinese exporting industries. "Over-surplus" or "overcapacity" are made up words which the US state department uses to try to imply that Chinese export industries which outcompete similar US export industries are somehow bad and need to be stopped. But for the US owned industries that are outcompeting the world markets there is no such thing as "over-surplus" or "overcapacity".

[@dee7665]

So you saying china isn't flooding the market with cheap products to reach their GDP projection?

[@dee7665]

Our industries does very well in the market without our government's subsidies those industries. Like China does for their industries

[@kennyyap9745]

​@@dee7665😊😂LOL EUROPE Economy is in RECESSION with Any GDP Below 1.5%😂😊😢

[@bobsmith3983]

@@dee7665 China isn't in the business of flooding Western markets with cheap products which are not profitable. Chinese businesses are not charities, they do business to make money.

[@michaelgothenburg364]

There used to be millions of posts on Chinese social media about China's most famous tennis player 彭帅. Did they disappear because she is bad?

[@lobsangsonam57]

EU must function independently keeping the core interest of their own futures..

[@tomsunuwar6940]

👍🇨🇳💐

[@ssruiimxwaeeayezbbttirvorg9372]

50 cents, all you will get.

[@themiddlekingdom9121]

The anchorman asked the professor Chen that the European construction companies don't have a fair chance to build infrastructures in China, well the European construction companies are not competitive enough, in order word, they charge too much.

[@ayambo3281]

Hah😂😂😂 unfair competition for Europe and the US is when they can’t compete!

[@khorweesiong]

Europe has to think for itself and decide what it’s interests are and not make itself a satellite of the US because the US will always put it’s own interests ahead of Europe’s

[@Sonyhamster]

Europe doesn’t sound very sovereign if it is worried about upsetting the American government

[@bobsmith3983]

Europe's countries, the Five Eyes, Japan and South Korea has been under the US thumb since WWII.

[@Theactualclips]

China did not ban it officially. They blocked it. Meaning you can still access it with certain apps and VPN. There are certain apps that allow you to use foreign apps in China.

[@michaelgothenburg364]

There used to be millions of posts on Chinese social media about 彭帅. Did they disappear because she is bad? You think it's right that they should disappear. We don't.

[@styx1272]

The guy from Beijing is trying to play the race card and sell a pork pie also. But some valid points.

[@naasikhendricks1501]

0:23 empiricism....

[@naasikhendricks1501]

1:21 eu has been given government funded multinationals under, "job creation"...

[@parttimethinker7611]

Hidden in plain sight?

[@getevennow]

The Chinese are the most intelligent people on the planet 🌍

[@evilleader1991]

EU is the real loser this century

[@yamhweeyeo3089]

In what ways is competition from China unfair? Say!

[@bobsmith3983]

The West say it's unfair because the Chinese out competes the West which the US coins "overcapacity".

[@SeanPan-it3jm]

Sen. Cotton Are you Chinese? Do you have a Chinese passport? Do your family has anything to do with Blood cotton produced in Xinjiang , China?.............

[@sapaiyo9810]

Brilliant reporting

[@jimmyf.x.9526]

Europeans are waking up😊

[@kimandstevelimmcintyre657]

Has anybody ask this women define competition?

[@yanbastianz]

yeah but chinese banned youtube, twitter, facebook ages ago, you guys forget and turn a blind eyes on that issues

[@bobsmith3983]

The Western platforms weren't competitive and was being out competed by the various Chinese social media platforms. So they left voluntarily with their tails between their legs. Bottom line they were inferior to Chinese platforms and they couldn't handle it so they left to limit the embarrassment of failure.

[@sic8098]

REMEMBER THIS ...AMERICANS ARE FROM EUROPE

[@bobsmith3983]

Not for long as more people from Central and South America cross the US southern border.

[@getevennow]

Instant Karma

[@deidresable]

Colonialism mentality still exist and prospering in europe and US. Gold : finance/monopoly Glory : military base Gospel : their gayyy ideology

[@Truthseeker12332]

Is Ge Chen from Taiwan? He speaks with US narratives!

[@user-ev9gg5zk7b]

Even gigantic port cranes can be a spy hahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 crazies xenophobia

[@bobsmith3983]

Evidently Chinese garlic too.

[@ximinghu9456]

It’s NOT true that China banned the US social media companies, China just asked them to abide by the relevant laws in China. It’s the US companies own choice of staying away from the Chinese market.

[@michaelgothenburg364]

There used to be millions of posts on Chinese social media about 彭帅. Did they disappear because she is bad? You think it's right that they should disappear. We don't.

[@LuckyJojo-yb9vt]

The bottom and middle class end up paying for most of the non-pragmatic policies of their aristocratic government. 😂

[@pkwong1940]

Ge Chen is simply waffling and contribute nothing to the discussion. Einar correct. Ge Chen is simply mouthing state department talking points.

[@bobsmith3983]

Ge Chen got his 50cents from the See Eye Aye for his participation.

[@kuanged]

1:18 "We like competition"... ok so then lower your living standards to the average Chinses and you will be able to compete. Oh, you won't do that? Your voters would dissent? Well, good luck then.

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

Tiktok, chew, is Singaporean, so NO that 100% means he doesnt work for the CCP 😂😂😂

[@bobsmith3983]

Senator Cotton is an ignoramus. From the CEO's responses he couldn't put two and two together to figure out the the Singaporean CEO could not be part of the CPC.

[@sic8098]

THE ORIGINAL NATIVE AMERICAN CAME OVER LAND FROM ASIA.

[@user-cy3ce1gy7o]

When is eu going to get rid of this american golden terrier called want to lay me woofer

[@naasikhendricks1501]

Did you forget the Antispy software company was the USA Government remember CIA...

[@wynetsang]

Science and Civilisation in China (1954-present) is an ongoing series of books about the history of science and technology in China published by Cambridge University Press. It was initiated and edited by British historian Joseph Needham (1900-1995). China has several thousand years of tech experience while the West only has several hundred years since the Dark Age.

[@philipmccready7090]

Remember how China has used PPP supplies and critical minerals to try to achieve political ends. Tech equipment will be no different. Europe needs to be careful and not too exposed to Chinese advanced technology and lose its own capabilities.

[@christianwitness]

China love... Propaganda

[@VijayPatel-rr7tp]

See is toking so rabies

[@joshuafoong9306]

The reality is China is staying ahead in many fields. Before the Western countries are far way ahead. China did eat the humble pie. But now is a different story that the declining Western countries need to partner and cooperate with a stronger economy to stay relevant in a very much complexes world rather than to fear of being playing second fiddle in a very competitive market.

[@JL88]

Don’t mislead the audience. If you want to be objective, give the facts; The cases of Google and FB in China were such that the data mining those companies took among the Chinese population, the Chinese Government put forward a decree whereby, they had to keep their servers in China, in order to operate. Those companies refused, so decided to leave themselves….Bytedance already has that in place with their servers being in the US…so this ban you are saying the Chinese Government imposed upon those companies is simply not true. Don’t lie and do responsible journalism!

[@tfalani3861]

Europe need to grow a spine already.