How Injuries Stole a Hall of Fame Career

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@orbyfan
@orbyfan 6 күн бұрын
I loved those Colts teams in the mid-late '70s. Bert Jones and Roger Carr were a great combination, and Lydell Mitchell was a threat rushing or receiving, with Howard Stevens returning kicks.
@omazz1965
@omazz1965 5 күн бұрын
Triplets before that was a thing
@BuckshotPA1
@BuckshotPA1 5 күн бұрын
Hey diddle, diddle, Mitchell up the middle!
@Spitz79
@Spitz79 Күн бұрын
They were fun to watch.
@Youtubedeletes
@Youtubedeletes 6 күн бұрын
Loved bert jones and the real COLTS.
@axil03
@axil03 3 күн бұрын
@KZbindeletes Yes!
@RobertDudley-l5n
@RobertDudley-l5n 2 күн бұрын
❤couldn't say it better myself . Well said.
@toddwilliams8911
@toddwilliams8911 2 күн бұрын
The real Colts. Oh, you mean the team Baltimore stole from Dallas? How do you feel about the real Browns? Also, they’ve been in Indianapolis for 10 years longer than they were in Baltimore. Time to move on.
@radar0412
@radar0412 6 күн бұрын
Joe Namath and Bert Jones had the best throwing motion I ever saw. A thing of beauty.
@chaplainjoseph4444
@chaplainjoseph4444 5 күн бұрын
Joe Namath, Bert Jones, Archie Manning. A trio of southern quarterback icons from the 1962-1979 era who were the "NCAA, AFL and eventually NFL" equivalent of Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, and Duke Snider of 1950s New York City MLB. Congratulations to the fan who resurrected Bert Jones from the forgotten door of history.
@c2itccase9
@c2itccase9 2 күн бұрын
I watched Elway and The Drive recently and Elway sure looked great.
@c2itccase9
@c2itccase9 2 күн бұрын
@@chaplainjoseph4444Uh, Terry Bradshaw? James Harris could wing it, too.
@radar0412
@radar0412 2 күн бұрын
@c2itccase9 Elway was a tougher competitor than both Jones and Namath. Better mechanics than those guys though? No way.
@jamesbone105
@jamesbone105 6 күн бұрын
Bert Jones was one of my favorite Q.B.s as a kid.
@nickcellini5609
@nickcellini5609 7 күн бұрын
This guy was Great !!! Loved watching him play !
@buddhavb3616
@buddhavb3616 5 күн бұрын
Went to a lot of Colts games as a kid. Jones was such a talented player. He was like Superman when healthy.
@Tom-ok2rh
@Tom-ok2rh 5 күн бұрын
As a long time Colts fan growing up rooting for my dad’s favorite team I became a tremendous Bert Jones fan. Thanks for the nice video of a very overlooked great quarterback from the past. He was John Elway before there was a John Elway.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 5 күн бұрын
Thanks Tom! I agree, Elway before Elway
@tgriffin3059
@tgriffin3059 5 күн бұрын
I think the Colts have the most distinguished, august qb lineage in the history of the sport. And that's WITHOUT Elway ever playing a snap for them. Unitas, Jones, Manning....Luck WOULD have been a Hall of Famer...and the Harbaugh years were better than many people remember...Even George was memorable, though not always for the best reasons! If Elway had gone there, it wouldn't even be CLOSE...there wouldn't even be any conversation as to who has the greatest qb pedigree in the league..
@bigsmith6240
@bigsmith6240 6 күн бұрын
Bert Jones was great and fun to watch. Reminds me of the Vikings Tommy Kramer, his career was also ended by injuries to his arm but he was great up until then.
@michaelbyrne8860
@michaelbyrne8860 6 күн бұрын
I remember Bert Jones & The Baltimore Colts! Two things held him back in Baltimore, one he was replacing Future HOF Johnny U, they loved Johnny in Baltimore and two the Colts was an a over the hill team! And Bert Jones had to be on top of his game for the Colts to Win & The Steelers in the 70's was a force to be reckon with! Bert had a Great Arm with Jergsen Accuracy and a Bobby Douglas QB Toughness! Unlike the QB walflowers of today's NFL!
@Lawomenshoops
@Lawomenshoops 6 күн бұрын
What are you talking about? When Bert Jones was drafted the Baltimore Colts had already undergone a youth movement and rebuild. None of the Colts from the early 70’s were on the team when Jones played
@stillaboveground2470
@stillaboveground2470 6 күн бұрын
My favorite player when I was a kid.
@selfwitness
@selfwitness 6 күн бұрын
I was fortunate enough to have seen him play. When he won Player of the Year in 1976, it was like he is going to HOF, no doubt. Bill Belichik said that Jones was the purest passer he had ever seen. And then Jones got badly hurt and never was his old self again. But in his healthy days, it was magical to watch him play.
@Tom-ok2rh
@Tom-ok2rh 5 күн бұрын
I was fortunate enough to see my only pro football game back in the late 70s at I believe it was called memorial stadium. It was the Colts and the Cardinals that day and even though I got to see my favorite qb for the Colts, the old veteran Jim Hart picked the Colts defense apart that day and they beat the Colts pretty handily from what I remember. One thing I did remember was even though it was only in October I guess because of where we were seated the breeze hit us when we were in the shade and I was absolutely freezing my ass off that day.🥶🥶🥶
@someperson8151
@someperson8151 4 күн бұрын
The 70's QBs were a different breed. They were tough as nails. Constantly abused. Normal hits back then are roughing the QB penalties today. Defensive players were allowed two steps to hit the QB after the QB passed the ball.
@fredbobberts5753
@fredbobberts5753 5 күн бұрын
People forgot he was a hell-for-leather runner too, especially in ‘75 and ‘76. He was a very dangerous dual threat QB.
@theOlLineRebel
@theOlLineRebel 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the history! I hadn’t known Jones was such a great player until recently (just a casual fan), though my parents seemed to think highly of him back in the day.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 7 күн бұрын
Great to hear - thank you for watching!
@paulmoody7059
@paulmoody7059 4 күн бұрын
He was a stud...sadly injuries sidelined a promising career.
@keithslaughter3486
@keithslaughter3486 6 күн бұрын
I remember him very well (I was a REDSKINS FAN , there was a annual training camp scrimmage game between the Colts and the ‘Skins) I witnessed the strength and accuracy of his arm and his superior athleticism…none of the ‘Skins Qb’s were even close to him (to include Joe Theisman)…. he and Archy Manning (another sad and unfortunate story) really stick out has being on bad teams despite having all the obvious physical skills necessary (from a young fan’s perspective) to be successful…..so sad…what if indeed
@rickcamacho9079
@rickcamacho9079 6 күн бұрын
I loved seeing him playing for the Colts. I admired his commitment to the game. I was just a kid but knew great when I saw it.
@redmustangredmustang
@redmustangredmustang 6 күн бұрын
After the 1977 the Colts went down the toilet when Bert had that separated shoulder in 1978
@robertcharpentier6852
@robertcharpentier6852 6 күн бұрын
Unlike today in the NFL, where there are strict rules governing how a QB can be tackled and when a targeting penalty should be called on a defender, Back in the time when Bert Jones played QB it was open season on QBs, who were constantly being seriously injured by hits that today would call for either an ejection or a suspension. Times change! StocktonRob
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 6 күн бұрын
yup the game is so different now
@g.t.richardson6311
@g.t.richardson6311 6 күн бұрын
It was also open season on running backs as the colts showed while getting a beat down vs the Steelers in 1976 playoff games… two late hit spearing cheap shots late knocked out both Harris and blier from the AFC championship game the next week … one was broken ribs forget what the other was All teams played that way and Bert jones wasn’t “picked on”
@unclejj13er75
@unclejj13er75 5 күн бұрын
They used to knock the qb down way after the ball was thrown. That was ridiculous. Lots of guys lost a career bc of extra-curricular stuff that the league ignored.
@tokk3n-hj4xg
@tokk3n-hj4xg 6 күн бұрын
I remember becoming a Colts fan because of Bert Jones.
@snelled
@snelled 6 күн бұрын
The thing you missed is Mr. Jones had to be blocked 3 times on the same play trying to tackle the guy who intercepted his pass. Show me anyone of your top 10 GOAT QB's that have that on their resume'. The guy was a football player.
@davidlemons5650
@davidlemons5650 3 күн бұрын
I still think Roger Staubach was the best. He may not have the stats except for the last 5 minutes of every game. However, he was selfless, gave all the glory to others, but he is why the Cowboys are what they are despite no Super Bowl in 30 years. He, Tom Landry, Too Tall Jones, Bill Bates, Randy White, Danny White, Drew Pearson, Tony Dorset, Everson Wall, and so many others defined the mentality of that time which was to be humble, polite off the field and a competitive monster on the field! They may not have started it, but these guys from the Cowboys and other NFL teams are why We have Fellowship of Christian Athletes and other charities. Special thanks to them! They truly were the good guys!
@augur6256
@augur6256 3 күн бұрын
The Redskins humiliated Roger Staubach and the Cowboys in the 1972 NFC championship game. The Skins went on to face the Dolphins with their perfect season in the Superbowl and lost badly. George Allen coached the nicknamed Ramskins and benched the purest passer I have ever seen in my life, Sonny Jurgensen, robbing him of a chance of winning a championship. Don Shula said it was a shame. There are tons of his awesome passes to Charlie Taylor on KZbin
@mykull666
@mykull666 Күн бұрын
@@augur6256 The Cowboys humiliated the Redskins for the majority of the 70s, so, just what is your point? They went to five Super Bowls winning 2. These are the years they won the division in the Landry era: 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1985 These are the years they won the division in the Jerry Jones era: 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 2007, 2009, 2014, 2016, 2018, 2021, 2023 These are the years the Braves/Redskins/Football Team/Commanders have won the division: 1936, 1937, 1940, 1942, 1943, 1945, 1972, 1983, 1984, 1987, 1991, 1999, 2012, 2015, 2020 The first 6 don't count in this conversation because the Cowboys didn't enter the NFL until 1960. The Cowboys have won the division 25 times against the team from D.C's 9 times. The overall record is 79-48-2 The Cowboys have been humiliating them for over 50 years, but if you want to hold onto 1972 which was the only year in the 70s when they won it, go ahead, knock yourself out, sports fan.
@gerardmetzger6182
@gerardmetzger6182 4 күн бұрын
I was a student at LSU in 1972 and no doubt Bert had a rifle for an arm, and he was as cool as a cucumber under pressure. The odd thing is that Coach Mac rotated him with Paul Lyons at QB, a good player, but no potential NFL Hall of Famer like Bert, and well that had an impact in many ways. Great memories and thanks to Bert and the best always to him and his family.
@yeildo1492
@yeildo1492 6 күн бұрын
Jones and Greg Cook, two great players robbed by injuries.
@WineSippingCowboy
@WineSippingCowboy 5 күн бұрын
While with the Cincinnati Bengals, late Greg Cook had the late Bill Walsh as the QB coach. RIP to them.
@jasonnelson6624
@jasonnelson6624 4 күн бұрын
Walsh said he was a combination of Montana and Marino.
@bajikimran2304
@bajikimran2304 5 күн бұрын
I once saw Jones throw a ball 82 yards on the fly. I about fell out of my chair.
@rufuspipemos
@rufuspipemos 6 күн бұрын
I saw him play in the 1970s. Despite only having three full seasons I still rank him (as a QB) only behind 1. Staubach. 2. Anderson. 3. Stabler. 4. Bradshaw. 5. Tarkenton 6. Jones, in that decade. If he had been healthy in 1978 and 1979 I would have ranked him even higher.
@jasonnelson6624
@jasonnelson6624 4 күн бұрын
Cant argue with that list. Nice to see Anderson get some love. Wonder if the hall of fame will do him like they did Stabler? Once he died then he became a hall of famer.
@chrisphillips348
@chrisphillips348 6 күн бұрын
He was the reason I Wore number 7 as a QB myself.
@MrNaturalSez
@MrNaturalSez 2 күн бұрын
One of the All-Time Great Lite Beer from Miller ads!
@TheWildJeffrey
@TheWildJeffrey 5 күн бұрын
Love this kind of content, great video! Just subscribed!
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 4 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thank you 🙏
@GeorgeWashingtonX
@GeorgeWashingtonX 6 күн бұрын
Think I heard Esiason mention that Jones was his QB idol when he was coming up.. and I think that's why Esiason wanted #7 jersey. But, feel free to fact check me, I might be remembering wrong.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 6 күн бұрын
yep that is true!
@richarddegrood9272
@richarddegrood9272 5 күн бұрын
I remember Jones well-he played many times against my Bills. Him and Fergy would always compete hard against each other as they were pals. Many times a shoot out and always fun.
@marklennox2151
@marklennox2151 3 күн бұрын
I just remember Bert Jones as a great running threat. I learned something here. THX
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 3 күн бұрын
thanks for watching Mark
@jeffreywong3155
@jeffreywong3155 4 күн бұрын
Even though the Colts were a flawed team, it was unfortunate that their winning three-year run occurred during the dominant Steelers/Raiders teams of that era. Regarding the beginning of Jones' injury, he got hurt during the preseason game with the Lions, and then returned and reinjured it during the Monday Night game against the Redskins. Despite the seriousness, Jones returned to THAT game, and led a comeback victory, which prompted the Redskins to claim that Jones faked the injury. Jones was really never the same again. He altered his throwing motion. What could have been... he was my childhood idol.
@peterblood1486
@peterblood1486 5 күн бұрын
During the Ray Firestone interview in the Old Metrodome Jeff George threw the ball from end zone to end zone hitting the goal post 1/3 of the way up. 110 yards. Bert could do the same.
@danlowe8684
@danlowe8684 2 күн бұрын
When your shoulder dislocates, it stretches the ligaments that hold it in place. The ligaments heal this way, so the shoulder is prone to future dislocations. The problem is not just the pain and discomfort but the fact that it can pinch nerves during the incidents. I had mine repaired when I was about 20 (1985). Before surgery, I asked the surgeon how it would affect my activity and he said, 'If you were an NFL QB, it would likely take about 10 yards off your long bombs.' It has never dislocated since but was a horribly painful and long recovery.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled Күн бұрын
damn that sucks
@Kingfisher1215
@Kingfisher1215 6 күн бұрын
And no one has mentioned what a crap hole of a stadium he played in. That stadium was awful. In an era of terrible multiuse stadiums, this one was as bad as it got.
@axil03
@axil03 3 күн бұрын
@Kingfisher1215 Yes, whenever anyone talks about the talents and accomplishments of a terrific player they never mention the stadium. Everyone knows that the stadium is the most important part of any successful athlete’s career.
@emmanuelwilliams6004
@emmanuelwilliams6004 3 күн бұрын
Oh Yeah The Ruxton Rifle Bert Jones My Baltimore Colts he was my favorite . I was born in the 60s grew up in this .I remember this like yesterday.Good post I think people forgot about the( RUXTON RIFLE ) Bert Jones .Josh Allen reminds me sooo much of Bert . Good Post Good Memories The Best Era .
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 3 күн бұрын
yeah Josh Allen is a good comp. Thank you for watching 🙏
@chrisjohnson890
@chrisjohnson890 2 күн бұрын
My favorite player ever. I love the video. A couple of corrections: Their conference championships were in 1975, 1976, and 1977. It is a shame that the injury that began his downfall was in a meaningless preseason game and I believe the injury occurred at the beginning of the 3rd quarter?? He was John Elway before John Elway but was better than John Elway was. It did not help that he played for what became a very dysfunctional organization when Bob Irsay took ownership. Joe Thomas amassed a ton of talent but due to being cheap much of that talent left as soon as they could so Jones was no longer surrounded by a strong O line, or receivers and the defense became worse as talent left. In fact, in 1981 Baltimore had a historically poor defense.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled Күн бұрын
thanks Chris - and appreciate the correction, my mistake on the graphics!
@jorgeespinosa6572
@jorgeespinosa6572 3 күн бұрын
My Dad was a highly regarded and award winning business consultant. He was considered the most intelectual person in any room he stepped in. One morning, during breakfast, he asked me who was the purest passer I had ever seen. Please consider my football knowledge spreads for more than a few decades. “Bert Jones,” I answered. My father did not comment. But I am very sure he agreed. Imagine the thrill I feel, watching this post twenty years after my dad’s passing. Bert Jones! Effortless release, the football flew out of his hand! As if the football gods gave his throws wings, the ball traveled across the field, yard after yard. Bert Jones was peerless.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 3 күн бұрын
That’s awesome! Thanks for watching & rest in peace to your father
@WineSippingCowboy
@WineSippingCowboy 5 күн бұрын
Taking over the late Johnny Unitas was too much! Those injuries 🤕. From hits in the stadium 🏟 to hits in the bar 🍸. Bert Jones was in the Miller Lite beer 🍺 commercials.
@ice-iu3vv
@ice-iu3vv 5 күн бұрын
jones would make the roster of various all-time teams. he'd be on an all colts roster with unitas and manning. he would be on the "best players not in the hall of fame" team with kenny anderson and randall cunningham. he could also make the "greatest arms" team, the all-70s team, or the "best leaders" team. he led the colts to some decent seasons with very little help except for maybe lydell mitchell. we've seen some great teams with mediocre quarterbacks, (2000s ravens, buccaneers, and bears, late 80s giants, 80s-90s redskins, 85 bears etc) but when else besides bert jones have we seen a phenomenal quarterback with so little help?
@martyyoung3611
@martyyoung3611 Күн бұрын
I got to see him play against the Bungles at Riverfront on my 15th birthday, 7 Dec 1980. My first NFL game.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled Күн бұрын
that's a great first game to have
@doctorgarbonzo2525
@doctorgarbonzo2525 5 күн бұрын
'77 Colts /Raiders Overtime play off, Bert could do it all & was One of the best in the NFL. Had the pleasure seeing #2 ND vs #1 LSU at South Bend '70
@SeanFication
@SeanFication 6 күн бұрын
A Colt QB whose HOF career was cut short due to injuries? It's got to be Andrew Luck, right? Oh ....
@joshscallorn6104
@joshscallorn6104 6 күн бұрын
Top 10 power ( Arm ), this dude, Jeff George,
@joshscallorn6104
@joshscallorn6104 6 күн бұрын
For real, another, semi proven, Jay Cutler, had one.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 6 күн бұрын
Look at the qbs the colts have had, remarkable
@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st
@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st 5 күн бұрын
Dumpster fire ! that was good - Question - so is a 48 yard "pass" the actual throw or is it the throw plus the run ? like the QB throws 32 yards and the catchers runs 16 yards ? also I love that late 60's early 70's big band 'Vegas' music - it makes you want to go play Football
@danielb7660
@danielb7660 Күн бұрын
Bert Jones was my favorite QB of the 1970s. I also loved Roger Staubach. I had his #7 jersey and Lydell Mitchell's #26 jersey. The Colts had an awful offensive line.
@RobertDudley-l5n
@RobertDudley-l5n 2 күн бұрын
Bert Jones Qb the Colts, the Balitmore Colts. Got to see play but nagging injuries caught up to him in the early 1980's But he still very good..
5 күн бұрын
I remember a game vs the Giants in 74, New York had a good team that year and it loked at first that the Colts were no match for them, but Jones came back in the second half and just lit t up ended up winning that game by 2 touchdowns He was unstoppable
@Fogman5678
@Fogman5678 4 күн бұрын
Reason I became a Colts Fan,and still are.
@acornsucks2111
@acornsucks2111 7 күн бұрын
Reminded me of Elway.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 7 күн бұрын
Yes I agree
@zyxwut321
@zyxwut321 6 күн бұрын
He kind of reminds me of Patrick Mahomes, though Mahomes is probably an even better all around athlete than Bert Jones was. But athletes today are different.
@Youknowwhoin2024
@Youknowwhoin2024 2 күн бұрын
Love how every QB has been called *the best pure passer* by at least one person of authority
@skepticalsmurf
@skepticalsmurf 6 күн бұрын
a underrated athlete,he caused many a heartache for my beloved 🐬s back in the day(you need to do video on the Pats Grogan)😅
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 6 күн бұрын
Will do - added to my list!
@jeffreygoss8109
@jeffreygoss8109 4 күн бұрын
As a Baltimore native I remember a soap commercial where Bert would break a bar.
@67marlins
@67marlins 4 күн бұрын
I grew up in Baltimore as a kid. I admired Bradshaw and Pastorini more.....but I have to respect Jones.
@9Point8
@9Point8 5 күн бұрын
I remember Howard Cosell raving about Bert, almost a man-crush level of adoration.
@scottlowman.1044
@scottlowman.1044 5 күн бұрын
Bert was fun to watch.
@brion-l1b
@brion-l1b 6 күн бұрын
I’ll still take Dan Marino as the best passer.
@rpd5429
@rpd5429 2 күн бұрын
Quarterbacks were not “protected” when Jones, Namath, etc. played. They were regularly abused by defensive players. These guys were tough!
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 2 күн бұрын
totally...tough is an understatement!
@chrisphillips348
@chrisphillips348 6 күн бұрын
He was Marino, Favre and Elway all in one
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 6 күн бұрын
this is accurate
@mikemcmullan8781
@mikemcmullan8781 3 күн бұрын
When the Colts played the Cowboys during those years, I was always concerned. Jones was brilliant.
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 4 күн бұрын
There was also Greg Cook who played ten games for the Cincinnati Bengals in 1969 until a shoulder injury which was so bad ended his career. Bert Jones played during the Colts last good years. By the 1980s the Colts were perennial losers and then left for Indianapolis. A sad end in Baltimore.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 4 күн бұрын
I did a video on Greg Cook a while back but it deserves an updated version
@TPaine1776
@TPaine1776 5 күн бұрын
He was fun to watch for sure.
@LaviniaTortuga
@LaviniaTortuga 5 күн бұрын
Bill Belichick said in a interview that Bert Jones was the best quarterback he ever saw. Nuff said.
@akbarlebowitz8151
@akbarlebowitz8151 5 күн бұрын
Belichick was a Special Assistant for Baltimore in 1975. He saw him a lot in person that year.
@ice-iu3vv
@ice-iu3vv 5 күн бұрын
he said " best pure passer", not best quarterback.
@claytonbigsby
@claytonbigsby 6 күн бұрын
Injuries hurt Chad Pennington as well. He was very accurate.
@bonanzatime
@bonanzatime 6 күн бұрын
Chad Pennington was NO Bert Jones.
@oilcandroid1133
@oilcandroid1133 6 күн бұрын
Chad Pennington was a quality, classy quarterback.
@LaserRanger15
@LaserRanger15 5 күн бұрын
Liked Burt Jones, but Dan Marino was the best pure passer, I've ever seen.
@ice-iu3vv
@ice-iu3vv 5 күн бұрын
i agree about marino, but to be fair, its bill bellicheck that said jones is the best, not the uploader, and nobody is more expert than bellicheck. its usually an insult to call a qb a "pure passer", because it implies they didnt win. (drew bledsoe, jeff george, dan fouts).
@Gordie-v7n
@Gordie-v7n 6 күн бұрын
If only? What an incredible talent- too bad the injuries came about .
@tonyhill1141
@tonyhill1141 6 күн бұрын
I know this is petty and likely doesn’t bother most people but using the term “countless” all the time for things that are most certainly finite just drives me nuts. Bert Jones did not spend “countless” summers as a ball boy for the Browns. He did that four years.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 6 күн бұрын
fair point sir
@Picasso_305
@Picasso_305 5 күн бұрын
Colts in the 1970s did not have a defense to match their offense. I was in my 20s that whole decade.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 4 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@RickB1792
@RickB1792 6 күн бұрын
He was really that good in his prime.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 6 күн бұрын
yup
@jeremypearson6852
@jeremypearson6852 3 күн бұрын
Not sure about Jones, but I think Dan Marino is the best passer I’ve seen.
@carseye1219
@carseye1219 6 күн бұрын
Sometimes I think the HOF's should give more consideration to guys who had a great 5-year stretch (The "Jim Rice effect", although he eventually got in) over guys who were good but not great over a long stretch (face it, Harold Baines was a good player for a long time but did you ever think of saying "that's a sure-fire Hall of Famer" while watching him?).
@HarryPost-h7m
@HarryPost-h7m 6 күн бұрын
I respectfully disagree with you. I would rather have someone who is good over a long period of time than someone who is great for a short period of time. I appreciate consistency. I also appreciate defense which in any HOF is almost never calculated in the vote.
@carseye1219
@carseye1219 6 күн бұрын
@@HarryPost-h7m I think everyone appreciates consistency but, as a "devil's advocate" position, imagine someone winning 5 straight MVP awards, or a RB who leads the league in rushing for 5 straight years but has journeyman numbers other years or has a career-ending injury (not far-fetched, there's a short shelf-life for players at the position) Are they never to be taken into consideration for a HOF? Of course players who are great for a long period of time are no-brainers but I think someone who could be considered one of the sport's best at their position for half a decade might be more worthy than someone who is merely above average for 15 years. I respect what you're saying but I think a player like Bert Jones deserves HOF consideration even if the lifetime stats might be found wanting.
@bonanzatime
@bonanzatime 6 күн бұрын
Art Monk had a long consistent records breaking career of greatness, and based on it, it should have been inducted as soon as he was eligible. But because of his low key humble personality, they punished him for that. Fck the hall of fame, it's all politics.
@HarryPost-h7m
@HarryPost-h7m 6 күн бұрын
@@carseye1219 I am not disagreeing. Every case is different. I think if you have been an MVP for five straight years that is a bit higher level than let's say being a top 10 offensive player in several areas ( let's say rbi, batting average and home runs) for 5 years out of a 15 year career.
@ericstew5086
@ericstew5086 Күн бұрын
They had Lydelll Mitchell and Roger Carr and Raymond chester
@c2itccase9
@c2itccase9 2 күн бұрын
I’m going to brag a little…I really had (had) a good arm. Good enough that a few of my friends called me Bert Jones. I finished second in the Punt Pass & Kick in college. I threw it 66 yards which was the best and kicked a 51 yard FG but, Mel frickin’ Knotts kicked a 61 yard FG. I knew Tom Dempsey had kicked it from 63 but a guy on our campus from 61??? I didn’t think it was possible. I was a good punter but can’t recall that part of the competition. Looking back, Mel probably had a stronger punting leg too.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled Күн бұрын
damn, sounds like you should have gone pro!
@c2itccase9
@c2itccase9 Күн бұрын
@ played baseball all 4 years…got about as close to pro ball in baseball as football…not very.
@RaceBannon-x1u
@RaceBannon-x1u 6 күн бұрын
Every LSU fan called him the Ruston Rifle. 😊
@projoebiochem
@projoebiochem 6 күн бұрын
The Colts franchise has been through this twice, once with Bert Jones and again with Andrew Luck.
@georgemeara2562
@georgemeara2562 6 күн бұрын
HOW RIGHT YOU ARE COLTS FAN FOR OVER 60 YEARS I FEEL CHEATED BUT AT LEAST THEY ARE STILL ALIVE
@projoebiochem
@projoebiochem 6 күн бұрын
@ of course the Colts did have Peyton Manning in between, so it’s not like it has been a total loss.
@aVerveQuest
@aVerveQuest 3 күн бұрын
It's ridiculous what the Irsay family has squandered... From Bert Jones to Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck, the colts have been blessed with generational talent at quarterback and gotten one Super bowl out of it all, driven one man to retire from too much abuse making him lose love for the game, to nearly crippling the other two...... To think this organization also had Johnny Unitas is crazy, luckily he got out before the Irsays were in full drunken swing
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled Күн бұрын
it's a real shame man
@geoffreylee5199
@geoffreylee5199 6 күн бұрын
Those teams gave him a good supporting cast!
@JRAJ-1956
@JRAJ-1956 5 күн бұрын
Ruston Bearcats and LSU Tigers.
@daveconleyportfolio5192
@daveconleyportfolio5192 4 күн бұрын
Contrary to what the video says, Bert Jones was not an excellent leader. A lot of people thought he was a spoiled brat who criticized his teammates way too much. But he was a tremendous talent, it's true.
@MarkHermann-u5p
@MarkHermann-u5p 6 күн бұрын
Jones was awesome
@ibraheemrao8434
@ibraheemrao8434 6 күн бұрын
Colts got a nack for getting qb talent picking Johnny U after he got cut by the steelers, drafting bert jones, Peyton manning and Andrew luck.
@hughgurney8686
@hughgurney8686 6 күн бұрын
They also drafted John Elway (but he refused to play for them) and Jeff George (who was as physically talented). They also drafted Chris Chandler who QBed the Falcons to SB XXXIII
@merrytylerwhore8034
@merrytylerwhore8034 6 күн бұрын
@@hughgurney8686 And don't forget Art Schlichter in 1982. Picking him sure didn't look like a gamble at the time.
@gradywilson9213
@gradywilson9213 6 күн бұрын
In the mid 80 s I was having a sandwich at the fame Camellia Grill on Carrollton Ave in New Orleans. Sitting to my right is Bert Jones also enjoying a sandwich. We had a nice amicable conversation, talked about all sort of things except football.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 6 күн бұрын
amazing! Love to hear this kind of stuff
@trapdoorfloyd
@trapdoorfloyd 2 күн бұрын
And still with his slow azz feet and meager build Tom Brady still owns every quarterback who ever lived. 😎
@markwilson9840
@markwilson9840 6 күн бұрын
Considering the rules,Jones carried on in a huge way.
@madmax8949
@madmax8949 4 күн бұрын
He definitely took a beating back in the day. QBs weren't protected back then like they are now,
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 3 күн бұрын
Definitely not, it was brutal
@panurge987
@panurge987 5 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="244">4:04</a> - it's "versus", not "verse".
@sonnymacklin5269
@sonnymacklin5269 6 күн бұрын
All through early 70's despite weaker defenses after Jets great one in 68' SB season, Joe Willie threw it like crazy cause he had to. Snell, Boozer got older.. Joe's follow through looked like he was throwing downhill. A beautiful thing. Joe was a great QB, period. Stats suck.... Big W's only matter. What other QB was responsible for first step in merger?...Rhetorical...none
@petenrita
@petenrita 4 күн бұрын
Jones was a stud. he had a cannon.
@allenwcuffiajr9658
@allenwcuffiajr9658 2 күн бұрын
Wait, Wait, WAIT!! You just said they won 6 games in two years (1973 & '74). At <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="152">2:32</a>, you have them winning 3 consecutive AFC East chips!! Please get the graphics correct. They were East champs in 1975, 76, 77.
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 2 күн бұрын
oof not sure how I missed that apologies, thanks for the correction
@rushfan1979
@rushfan1979 5 күн бұрын
Still considered by many as the best LSU qb
@nflunveiled
@nflunveiled 4 күн бұрын
nice, I’m very uniformed about college football but I was under the impression many thought this
@brwskitime
@brwskitime 3 күн бұрын
I've always wondered how many Joe Montanas / Tom Bradys have gone through the league as busts because they were on bad teams.
@PurpleCactus-x2k
@PurpleCactus-x2k 5 күн бұрын
British guy talks American Football.
@iam01
@iam01 2 күн бұрын
Bert 'I'm Hurt' Jones
@Davepool-hs7vr
@Davepool-hs7vr 5 күн бұрын
Bert Jones has the same story as Andrew Luck
@ice-iu3vv
@ice-iu3vv 5 күн бұрын
except not at all, because jones is far greater than luck, and with drastically less help.
@davevogelar9965
@davevogelar9965 6 күн бұрын
He was a very good quarterback.
@holdenmcgroin9774
@holdenmcgroin9774 3 күн бұрын
Bert Jones also had a terrible gambling problem. He would bet on his own games.
@kimmartin6063
@kimmartin6063 5 күн бұрын
He was Great
@skee19
@skee19 2 күн бұрын
He could have been the greatest of all time
@terrybangley2281
@terrybangley2281 4 күн бұрын
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