How is it possible 9/11 hijackers Passports survived the crash?

Discussing the Twin Towers
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[@SuperDuperVision]

I’ve been binging 9-11 content for the past week and i just wanna say thank you for being consistent in your uploads. It’s nice to hear any new video about the topic in general. You’re a pro at this

[@stringbender3]

Figure out it’s a major inside job yet?

[@stringbender3]

Find out it’s an inside job yet?

[@jordanwhite8567]

Same I really like his video style. He sorta just picks a topic and freeflow talks about it with no real rigid structure. Feels more like an actual conversation or podcast or something and makes it really easy to listen to

[@danielgloverpiano7693]

My dad passed away at 91 last year. He was alive during WWII, and watched documentaries and films about the war his whole life. It’s our fate to binge watch 9/11 stuff because we were alive when it happened. I’m convinced. Algorithms won’t let us forget as we get these every day!

[@PatriarchyPatrol]

​@@danielgloverpiano7693 and because the same people are responsible for both

[@benjaminrealy5661]

You also could consider, paper everywhere. People are curious It's quite possible the lady looked through different pieces to see if she could find anything (money?) But when she happened to find it she knew she should turn it in. Also, "I found this passport, officer, it may be useful in identifying a victim" quite likely. "I found this interoffice memorandum, officer, saying lunch breaks are extended by 15 minutes starting next week" why would someone hand that to an officer?

[@danielgloverpiano7693]

Yep, and it would be logical that she thought it was someone who worked in the building at the time. People sometimes carry passports every day for various reasons, especially when they’re born in another country.

[@EternalEyeofRa]

She found it a block away from the tower it fell from and she found it within an hour and thirteen minutes of the first plane crashing and the first tower collapsing. With paper still flying everywhere, pieces of the building crashing down and the people jumping from the towers it was absolute chaos. Somehow this lady was able to block it all out to focus on the paper strewn everywhere and found this passport. I'm not saying impossible, but damn.

[@UnLancheroMuyPenudo]

15 minutes?

[@tessfabled4115]

@@EternalEyeofRa I found a tiny little toy from a series I collect (Charmkins, which has been out of production for some 30+ years!) in the middle of a crowded 4-way crosswalk whilst I was crossing it. Some people just have an eye for finding things.

[@misguidedangel6550]

There was literally 100s of passports, drivers licenses, work IDs, bank cards, etc found that day, you can see the pictures of boxes of them on Google images if you do a search

[@NewEnglandOtaku]

Just watching these.. I feel like I learn something new when I watch these videos..

[@ernestt5703]

The fact that they put a banner on this video tells me all I need to know.

[@d.optional3381]

like what? sounds like some bullshit

[@BillyBong]

Bro, those are on every video that contains content on 9/11........

[@ernestt5703]

@@BillyBong I know it’s perfectly normal.

[@ucfqb]

such as?

[@holdernewtshesrearin5471]

MILLIONS of other documents and other pieces of paper as well as personal items like shoes, wallets, phones, glasses, keys and jewelry etc FROM THE IMPACT ZONE and THE AIRCRAFT ITSELF were also recovered on the sidewalks, streets, roof tops and parking lots on 9/11. Absolutely nothing odd about finding the passport at all.

[@spinba11]

Wasn’t a set of landing gear found many years after

[@DKrueger1994]

yeah, believe it was between two buildings.

[@cocoakain]

​@@DKrueger1994 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@privatename4786]

There’s actually photos showing landing gear between buildings

[@mikero6225]

It doesn't change the point, but it wasn't landing gear

[@dianamitchell6939]

My goodness, this video could have been 2 minutes long if you didn't repeat yourself 37 times!

[@Dudhddhrffr]

I think that lady was curious and she was looking at objects on the floor around the towers

[@althunder4269]

The plane didn't hit a solid object like a mountain, it hit a building that absorbed the kinetic energy so I can see that stuff would have made it though the impact.

[@BillyBong]

Exactly, all the conspiracy people talk about some jet they flew at 500 mph into a reinforced concrete wall that was vaporized. Yea, it was a brick wall, not a building with air and space inside.

[@Jayfinance92]

Anything that was laminated like passports usually can make it. Especially if they were in peoples pockets or purses or leather bags.

[@timspiker]

Someone did the calculations with an AI and the AI said that it was a chance of 1 with... many many zeroes and that finding within an hour of this event was an even more ridiculous number. I trust the math on this one.

[@IanADolan]

The hijackers would have had the passport on their persons most probably, or in luggage in the overhead compartments. Highly unlikely they'd have survived, especially given the inferno that consumed those floors. It's ridiculous to even suggest it?

[@cchris874]

First off, paper items surviving high speed plane crashes is nothing new. Many examples can be cited. As to the fire, a lot depends on how long an item is exposed. If the hijacker had the passport, say, in his pocket and was seated in the cockpit, that that item has a head start, since the fuel tanks are behind it. And if the exposure is a fraction of a second, it could well escape complete destruction.

[@cchris874]

@@dr.jiIIaIicecooper2587 Why would you carry a passport on a domestic flight? Especially back then when all you needed was a driver's license.

[@knockeledup]

@@cchris874These weren’t American citizens. They were in the US on visas. They would absolutely need their passports for domestic flights.

[@cchris874]

@@knockeledup I was responding to this post "Where are passports of all other passengers from both planes?" Maybe you missed it due to KZbin's broken thread system, which they refuse to fix?

[@conpop6924]

@@dr.jiIIaIicecooper2587it was a domestic flight. Most of the people on those flights were from the US so why bring a passport?

[@annetteslife]

It was either Amy Sweeney or Betty Ong who gave the seat numbers belonging to the hijackers to American Airlines

[@eh1702]

I listened recently to a recording of the airline person relaying Betty Ong’s information, and that was part of it.

[@annetteslife]

@@eh1702 I kind of thought it was Betty Ong

[@JSUKyrks69]

Yeah sure it was Betty.

[@annetteslife]

@@JSUKyrks69 thank you. I kind of thought so

[@jordanwhite8567]

So I’m definitely not claiming a conspiracy here although 10-15 years ago I would’ve bet my life on there being one. My attitude has changed on it as I’ve gotten older but the weirdest thing about the passport to me when you think about it is the fact that it’s burnt at all. On the surface level you’d think “of course it’s burnt it was in a plane crash with tens of thousands of gallons of ignited jet fuel” but when you think about it, that should mean it either exists or it doesn’t. It should be either 100% ashes or unscathed by fire. The fact that there is just this really convenient charring to non important areas of it is insanely suspicious. Imo at least

[@mariopezic4247]

Try to burn anything but only not important parts....its not sus...its a not explainable how did that happened

[@zariballard]

Exactly! And a "conspiracy theory" is not a bad thing you know.

[@stringbender3]

@@zariballardterm was invented by the CIA

[@carrollsanders9376]

​@@mariopezic4247Heat and oxygen are required for combustion once the blast way engulfed the pass port all the oxygen in the air was used up, Then the passport cooled below it's Ignition temperature so it couldn't burn any farther.

[@RichieD_21]

You are definitely not an experienced arsonist. Your statement about how it should be 100% ashes or unscathed is just not true. Things definitely can partially burn and then die out

[@lysergicore]

Funny how everyone in the plane got incinerated, along with the blackboxes, yet a paper passport in a hijackers pocket flies out of a fiery inferno and survives intact conveniently on the sidewalk.

[@danielgloverpiano7693]

There were gobs of paper found from the World Trade Center offices that drifted as far as Brooklyn for hours afterwards. The burning paper within the buildings, as well as furniture was actually what made the buildings collapse. They created a furnace that couldn’t be stopped. If you watch any video shot from the East side you will see the mountains of paper falling down. It looks like a ticker tape parade. There were also items of clothing and shoes found in all of the crash sites. I believe a stuffed rabbit was located which belonged to a two and a half year old girl on Flight 175.

[@Balthorium]

It’s not funny or weird at all you could see it in the video all the papers flying out of the building in the puncture on the far side where the plane hit the north tower. You can see aircraft landing gear on the sidewalk another video. The lady said she found a boarding pass. You can find a boarding pass you can find a passport.

[@birdo623]

I think you may be onto something that no one has everrr thought of! Call the police!🤣🤣🤣

[@danielgloverpiano7693]

@@birdo623 be nice. Hahahaha.

[@danielgloverpiano7693]

Did you know that the jumpers who fell or jumped to their deaths ended up as a pink haze when they reached the ground? The only thing left of them was their clothing and shoes. Otherwise, it was difficult to see they were once a human being. By the way, there were charred remains of passengers still strapped into their seats found in the rubble. If you watch any video shot from the East side which shows the impact of Flight 175, you will see tons of debris flying out of the side of the building opposite the impact. These are the items which were not instantly incinerated. A portion of the wing flap mechanism from that plane was found wedged between two buildings two blocks from the impact zone in 2013. It had been there for over a decade unnoticed. This guy says the passport might have been in the checked luggage. That makes zero sense and is nearly impossible. You cannot get through security without a form of ID and that was true prior to 9/11, I believe. Nobody would be dumb enough to check their passport in a bag.

[@QuatrinaVR]

A woman in one of the most populated cities on Earth picking up an obvious passport during a plane crash makes a lot of sense. She would have thought it belonged to someone on the flight and could be used for identification by authorities. If she hadn’t picked it up, given that it’s so populated then someone else likely would have done the same.

[@BambiniArtini]

There were also 2 rings that were recovered that belonged to flight attendant, Sara Low, who was aboard flight 11. Obviously the chances of 2 rings surviving are considerably higher than a passport or even paper, but I think it does go to show that despite all odds, physics really can surprise us. Thank you for shedding light and very interesting information on this incident. It's important that people understand the reality of these attacks.

[@frusengladje6680]

So there's a lot of passengers on these "planes" and only a hijacker's passport floats to the ground through tthe debris of his pocket/bag, the plane, the building, etc and someone finds it and immediately is concerened to the extent that turning it in to a cop is crucial at that moment while other stuff is going on. Forget the fire thing that burnt through the buildings too. Some passports are immune to that stuff.

[@cchris874]

It would make sense that not many passports were on the plane. Thus, if one were found, the odds would be much higher than average it would be one of the hijackers. Back then especially, few traveled with passports on domestic flights. "Only a passport." Wrong again. Lots of paper and debris were found on the streets and sidewalk. Not just a passport.

[@StONed-yx5qq]

The I bar melted and passports don’t?🧐

[@matrixfree3480]

One responder reported seeing a womans heel, intact but with a foot and lower leg in it.

[@belladonnahigh9206]

I even saw that, it's in the evidence and you can look it up.

[@stringbender3]

There was bone fragments found on rooftops many times for years and years after. Last ones found in 2018 I think

[@stringbender3]

💣💣💣

[@TransmissionEpicts]

Jesus, yes I saw a photo of that in a book of 9/11 photos published a year or so after the attacks. One of the most real-life horrific things I've seen, and it was "just" a photo in a book. I was quiet for the rest of the day after seeing that. Poor woman, whoever she was, horrendous. I should imagine they'd be lots of parts and clothing lying around though, so one of many actually most likely :-(

[@Planeandaquariumgeek]

PSA 1771 is a textbook example of paper surviving a plane crash. Also in the Nationair case they found a piece of paper that basically solved the whole case.

[@randomyoutubeperson6954]

Ok but how many passports belong to other passengers in total were found? Edit* I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just curious.

[@cchris874]

Don't know if they know. In 2001, passports would have been uncommon on domestic flights, I am guessing.

[@randomyoutubeperson6954]

@@cchris874 agh ok. Thanks for that, didn't even think of it.

[@sonofhibbs4425]

This is my question as well.

[@Planeandaquariumgeek]

I would be surprised if any American passengers of those flights, domestic flight. No need for a passport on a domestic flight, most anyone would have is a passport card in their wallet.

[@randomyoutubeperson6954]

@dr.jillalicecooper2587 no actually, these things can possibly survive a crash so......

[@stanzihattermann1024]

I'm a fellow depressed ginger and i love your content. Also that Diet dr pepper thing sounded like a paid promotion lmao

[@TR-zx1lc]

Lucky Larry Silverstein.

[@ResidentOfTheAbyss]

Exactly.

[@wolfiewolfdog9771]

Juice

[@ResidentOfTheAbyss]

And the 'dancing Israelis'.

[@harrybalzack8424]

Bingo!

[@belladonnahigh9206]

He was greedy in spite of what happened, that he wanted each plane to be considered a separate attack, which gave double the amount of insurance payments.

[@weirdwordcombo]

There are some deep seated insecurities in people questioning the official story. You know when they ask "well what about this", "engineers said this", etc. etc.. They fundamentally don't know how psychology, game theory, and other stuff works in this world and in humans. Specifically they believe they can't be wrong and people of authority they trust can't be wrong. But everyone else is wrong in their mind. When in fact every human struggles even with simple optical illusions...

[@6ixpredcatcherz]

It is good to question the official story.... any story.

[@stringbender3]

Wake up. Your not fooling anybody.

[@stringbender3]

You ain’t fooling nobody

[@stringbender3]

Wake up

[@weirdwordcombo]

@@6ixpredcatcherz That's not my point

[@user-bs5ih1pl9u]

You constantly defend 911. Just because you don't see the motivation does not mean that it is not there. Also, why would his passport be in luggage underneath the plane? You are making the wrong assumptions to fit your narrative. How would he check in if his passport was in the luggage he checked in? The passport would have had to come from his pocket in the cockpit but even that is ridiculous

[@cchris874]

Why would the claim the passport was in the luggage "fit" his narrative? That does not make any sense. Why is it ridiculous the passport would be on his person inside the cockpit? Paper items surviving even very high speed plane crashes is a common place.

[@elliecherise1968]

There's a woman on here that escaped just in time and found what she figured were a bunch of boarding passes on the ground, but as soon as she picked it up someone grabbed them from her. A reseller? The ABC's? You know they were all over that place?

[@cagleholdings771]

It's interesting how Depressed Ginger (DG) posts numerous videos supporting the official 9/11 narrative but hasn't made a single video on World Trade Center 7 (WTC 7). I'm curious as to why DG pays so much attention to the Twin Towers, but none on Building 7. Three WTC buildings fell that day, but DG only talks about two. Building 7 is notable for being the first and only steel-framed skyscraper in history to have completely collapsed due to fire alone. I'd be really interested in DG's in-depth analysis of how that happened. Instead, we get lengthy videos of DG explaining how a passport could survive the 9/11 crash. It's a bit strange that DG hasn't delved into the collapse of Building 7, especially considering the reports from news services about its collapse before it actually fell. It's odd to see someone who posts videos supporting the official 9/11 narrative overlook such significant aspects of the event. Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to seeing what DG posts next and have subscribed to the channel.

[@lpuv24]

Just stop dude

[@AndrewH1220]

stop talking about 9/11 even though we've been told to Never Forget

[@misguidedangel6550]

There were tons of passports, drivers licenses, credit cards etc found, its not like this was the only one. Flight 93 that crashed in the field, the drivers license and work ID of one of the Stewardesses survived too

[@Orlando_Steve]

Another thing to look at I saw on Devon Stack's stream. The Solicitor General, Ted Olsen allegedly had a cell phone conversation with his wife Barbara who was on one of the 9/11 airplanes. He gave an interview describing it. Yet the FBI said this did not happen. Weird, huh?

[@Sj430]

His wife was on flight 77.i don't believe he talked to his wife.

[@Orlando_Steve]

@@Sj430 I don't think he did either. But he said he did.Just one of many bizarre things. Also the Dancing Israelis who turned out to be Mossad agents there, in their own words, "to document the event". If anyone believes the official narrative they are clueless beyond repair and I'm sure are quintuple jabbed.

[@Welv1987]

Nice video, thank you for doing a video on this subject :) I think it's important for people to understand

[@daveh4925]

The woman who found the passport would have been interviewed about it by media as its a wild story and harms no one, the reason they needed it was to justify the planned war

[@cchris874]

Not if she walked away.

[@StayPositive-sd8op]

Yeppppp

[@daveh4925]

@@cchris874 if you found it u would share the story as it was a big deal

[@cchris874]

@@daveh4925 Everyone's different. Also, she gives it to the officer. And maybe there's no reporter in sight. Is she just supposed to wait there as the building is spewing debris? I would run away pretty quickly. wouldn't you?

[@daveh4925]

@@cchris874 It's possible but with it being the number one event of America its not something you don't tell people, maybe it is but in the context of the war machine, like the nord stream pipeline, putin didnt blow it up himself, so yes the element of doubt is true but with secrecy allowed and used in agencies and wars over oil well established, no weapons of mass found, how many times do you give the benefit of the doubt to bad people, 3 steel towels fall vertically in one day, a war is started, same terrorists if described today you would be islamaphobic, why because they use these idiots to divide and conquer - its no longer a theory but a sequence of facts

[@georgiazettakaragianni9832]

Were passports of other passengers found? If not, then it is strange. A passport is different than a wheel that was detouched, and flew outside.

[@betajoshi]

Yes. There were other passports. Some from the plains and some from the towers. They found like dozens or even hundreds of passports in the debris.

[@cchris874]

@@betajoshi I never heard that. Do you have a source that hundreds of passports were found? Thanks

[@betajoshi]

@@cchris874 I said "or even hundrets". I am not sure how many they found. Search for the video "First pictures of WTC debris" (I will not post the link because youtube deletes comments with links in it). You can see some of the passports they found from 1:10 in the video.

[@georgiazettakaragianni9832]

@@betajoshi I have the same question. If any other passports were found, do you have a link to this information?

[@betajoshi]

@@georgiazettakaragianni9832 Yes. I wrote the link (Name of the video) in my last answer (16 hours ago).

[@guzziguy1000]

And they never found any part of a plane at Shanksville !

[@RIPEazyE]

Yes they did ….

[@geoduck1779]

lol yes they did look it up

[@mr.luckyduck13]

Diet Dr Pepper is amazing holy shit

[@n1kolodian]

Could be a great discussion. But they're deleting any comments that contradict the argument.

[@ksp-crafter5907]

👍👍👍

[@richardsoult5678]

I wonder How many driver license and passports was found of other passengers from those planes just kinda curious because with all those millions of papers on the ground that blew around and at some point they had to clean it all up one would think many ids may have been found from all those inside the towers as well.Thanks for your video friend and if my memory is correct one guy got hit by the wheel of the plane and somehow survived.My belief is that many angels was at that site that day and is the reason so many survived along with some peoples testimony stating they seen the souls being pulled from the jumpers just before impact.Can you do a story about that.

[@StayPositive-sd8op]

None. I'm sure the ones that they found were just made

[@Planeandaquariumgeek]

Not many other passengers would have had passports. Domestic flight.

[@richardsoult5678]

@@StayPositive-sd8op Yeah if you look at the undercarriage of the second plane you will know that's no passenger jet liner which would always be round and smooth.

[@ajaciedenniettestoppen71]

This fed account has to be stopped

[@elliecherise1968]

And the Passport could have been placed in a lock box or glove compartment?

[@rgcamborg]

Do you actually need a passport for an internal flight?

[@amenaspecialist]

so they couldn't find the flight recorders but a tiny piece of passport???

[@owlhater270]

Yes, according to these people

[@LukeD-Always]

So are you denying the existence of the planes? Or not believing that the four black boxes between the two WTC planes were not recovered?

[@BillyBong]

Yes

[@owlhater270]

@@BillyBong And

[@BillyBong]

@@owlhater270 and what?

[@thegreatmrt]

Good thing it wasnt on the crash in Pennsylvania it wouldnt exist because for the first time in history a crashed airliner that it isnt a small jet nor single engine private plane that some how completely disappeared as if it never existed in the first place. (yes thats sarcasm). More severe high speed freefall nose down crashes into the homes, mountains, etc have never completely destroyed the entire plane or the fact they said miles away the plane crash they found stuff, when its absolutely not possible because there was no in flight breakup. That and the pentagon ones to me are filled with way too many holes and impossible circumstances that Im not sure how anyone believes those, the fact the flight data recorders were never found and were considered pulverized just doesnt make sense with a passport surviving it, I could believe that it would have the chance of making it without being completely destroyed but it wouldnt have been enough to be legible, there are exceptions but with the other 2 planes, the pentagon and the Pennsylvania one are so ridiculously filled with so many holes its insane how anyone believed it,. atleast with your theory with the passports, even if i am very skeptical there is actually a chance for that to happen and its an extremely insane improbability, but the 1 in 10000000000000000 chance it could have been that 1. The other 2 crashes dont match up to anything ive ever seen, I also am an ATC, when training we seen many many of crashes and had to learn and practice with the stress to stay calm and try to help the pilots, so if it actually happens. Though, with how many impossible things that never happened before, like a fire causing a major high rise building to fall for the first time in history regardless of fires in other buildings in history that were way hotter and worse than these, and the first time a building imploded floor by floor pancaked almost perfectly in on itself, and then the building next to it having the exact same thing is a lot of firsts, which we could grant that the passport improbability and we can even grant 1tower being the first in history to collapse from fire, and it also have the first in history to perectly implode on itself at freefall speeds for the first time every without a demolition properly done, there is too many "firsts" that were impossible for it to all be this giant worst case scenario, there is no way that even granting the 4 exceptions that the other building and the planes etc all for the first time in history happen, its not even remotely possible to have that many like that , let alone the 4 firsts already granted. For me, the passport coincidence is probably the most plausible and logical than everything else as well. There are just too many ridiculous coincidences with insanely impossible and improbable odds to happen, let alone in multiple cases. I do enjoy your videos though, this wasnt aimed at you, im just glad someone is continuing to post frequently on things pertaining to the tragedies and having discussions rather than the normal conspiracy vs sheep ordeal that seems to happen on videos on the subject, so i appreciate the fact you can do these and still not attack those who disagree or having a way different opinion. We will never find out the truth 100% , which is infuriating because those who died or families of those who died should have that complete closure and not constantly having things seem like theyre being lied to or ignored. But atleast you are keeping the conversation on these events open for all perspectives, and no matter which way it really is, conspiracy or ridiculous bad luck firsts in everythig going wrong, many innocent people were taken from the earth and their families and lost their lives to selfish pieces of shit for their own personal gain. That truly is what is the sad truth in all of this.

[@mariopezic4247]

What do you mean we will never know the thruth??i mean we can guess and argue about some things but the 100% thruth is known:more than 3000 innocent people died because of terorism!anything else is less relevant,any how,why,when or whatever....we can discuss cosnpiracies or theories but the fact is:exact amount of people died because exact number of planes crashed on exact places...so RIP to the fallen and anything else is less relevant

[@zariballard]

I just wrote nearly the same comment about the pancaking free fall of those towers, all the first and anomalies and coincidences. It's so ridiculous to me now I can't even believe that anyone still believes any of it.

[@zariballard]

​@@mariopezic4247Well it does matter when the terrorism comes from your own govt and not from the order of some Muslim in a cave somewhere! That's a different form of terrorism. We were attacked by our own government! You do understand that don't you???

[@carrollsanders9376]

​@@zariballardThat is Bull 💩 Twoofer nice attempt at Grifting, but Welding Rod Flux and paint chips didn't bring the buildings down, Thermal degradation of the Crystaline structures of Steel did, because of a big a$$ Chimney effect fire.

[@mjpthetrucker9485]

Paper and clothing routinely survive plane crashes. Take this from someone who has been on mayday, article and blog binges of airplane crashes in the past.

[@marcostar57]

But the steel and concrete buildings didn't survive. ?!?

[@owlhater270]

​@@marcostar57Yes, and you're Un-American for thinking so.

[@LukeD-Always]

@@marcostar57 the steel did survive it was all over the ground in massive piles, throw 2 concrete blocks together and you’ll begin to see where the huge plumes of thick grey clouds that engulfed Manhattan came from

[@vincentsouchaud6717]

0:00 Great start with a kem trayled sky. The Twin Towers did not collapse, they were pulverized top down, floor by floor.

[@cchris874]

Wrong, they collapsed due to the pull of gravity, just as is always the case with controlled demolition. That's why they look alike. Ask any CD expert, and they will confirm this for you.

[@Larry26-f1w]

@@cchris874I think we know who’s “pulling it “ here ! You must be pals with Larry Silverstein

[@cchris874]

@@Larry26-f1w Oh yes, we have a troll convention every anniversary with Larry. And he keeps asking us when he thinks he might actually begin making a profit from his insurance policies, give that the payouts all fell far short of the costs in rebuilding the new trade center.

[@JonNoto]

This was just a Diet Dr Pepper ad.

[@ericstevens8744]

Look at Waco look at Ruby Ridge If you trust what they tell you…. Your Crazy

[@supermanepic15]

depressed ginger is skeptical of the government in its self, so its dosent make sense to call him a sheep

[@submerged8163]

⁠@@supermanepic15 DP also likes to live in an echo chamber and abides by the common MSM narratives.

[@supermanepic15]

@@submerged8163 i honestly think ALMOST all 9/11 conspiracy theorists live in an echo chamber

[@supermanepic15]

@@submerged8163 I think ALMOST all 9/11 conspiracy theorists love in an echo chamber

[@supermanepic15]

@@submerged8163 also i think MSM stands for My Singing Monsters

[@Racinrasslinfan36]

Passports recovered makes sense Black boxes and debris from United 93 and pentagon? Nowhere to be found Nothing to see here

[@cchris874]

WRONG. Black boxes for both flight 93 and 77 were found. How difficult is it to get the basic facts right???

[@Larry26-f1w]

@@cchris874it’s as easy as planting 🪴💩🪴🤔🪴🤔

[@Racinrasslinfan36]

@@cchris874 recordings never played how about you defend Cheney and bush removing the steel while flames burned so they could be shipped to China

[@cchris874]

@@Racinrasslinfan36 Now that you've been called out on your mistakes, you understandably change the subject. Nice try.

[@deniseyeaisaidit]

I was really hoping you would not be hinting on the heir of conspiracy, but your last few videos have taken turns I didn’t think you would go. There were numerous passports and ID’s found by people in the planes and the thousands that were lost. Some looked immaculate and other were partially or completely melted and destroyed. I have friends that were down that area while I was on the upper east side, lucky enough to NOT be around the chaos and destruction, and you would be surprised how many people picked up debris and papers, wallets and bags, including body parts. It was rare but some body’s were intact and the majority were body parts. A woman worked on the 100 plus floor-, she survived. It her briefcase was at her desk. It was found blocks away and the person who found it called her so she could retrieve it. a briefcase from 100 floors still intact was pretty remarkable but not uncommon. Moral of my story- it happens. There’s no conspiracy and nothing unusual about those beasts’ passports not “looking” destroyed.

[@adamhes06]

Im guessing anything at the front of the plane/cockpit was more likely to survive and be ejected out the building intact as the fuel and resulting fire only happened once the wings entered the building

[@mikero6225]

Or the passport just coincidentally struck a column near the exterior entry point, stopping dead near the outside of the building, only to be blown background by the Shockwave from the thermobaric-like fuel explosion.

[@edecarlosgoncalves1790]

Everything was combined,the world leaders made an offering of this tragedy from 11/09/2001,was announced in the movies and the drawings.

[@martinswan9175]

Possible, but I think it's not likely. The whole story is weak which is why people don't discuss it. Things make more sense when you learn of the Petrodollar monetary system.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Also something to keep in mind - not a huge factor but still a factor - passports and other identification were just made tougher back then. The difference in flimsiness of ID's in just the past ten years is WILD. My current drivers license would probably fall apart if it went through the wash. Also, the presence of mind for someone to pick up the item and realize it might be pertinent and hand it over isn't as wild as it might seem. This ties into the false notion that it was a total surprise for a terrorist attack like this to occur. You hear a lot of people during retrospection say that this was a total unprecedented happening - for Wahhabbi militants to attack in such a way - which just means that prior to 9/11 they weren't paying attention to the news but you still have individuals who - while filming the event in question - make the connection to terrorism right away. A few make the connection even before the South Tower is hit, usually those that witnessed the plane's course prior to impact. It's not beyond belief that someone who is fairly knowledgeable on world events at the time amongst thousands of other people, would bear witness to the attacks, and amongst what were probably tons of other pertinent pieces of evidence strewn about lower Manhattan, spot one - see the Keffiyeh-clad individual in the picture, and make the connection that it might be important. There's some survivor's bias at play, because we obviously don't know about all of the other evidence like that ID that went unnoticed and was swept up and destroyed during clean up in the weeks and months afterward and we don't know about all of the items handed over to the police that ended up being totally unrelated. It's like any probability outcome - the chance that YOU individually will have a vending machine land on on you is utterly remote but the chance that SOMEBODY will die via vending machine is a lot more likely.

[@matthewhigson1232]

😊😊😊

[@xjcrossx]

Because they weren't in the crash.

[@FranciscoPereira-px6mu]

Maybe the planes were empty, but full of explosives and radio controled.

[@mikebyrd8278]

It's completely irrelevant that they found the passport or not. In personal items often survive plane crashes. There are many other personal items that survived all four planes. Is a plane manifest who was on board the plane, there's video of them going through security. Dozens of phone calls from passengers and crew members saying they're being hijacked by Muslims. They found bodies...

[@roniangel3]

Well, a passport looks very different than regular office paper and I would imagine it would look “out of place” among mostly white paper. Plus your eyes would be more drawn to something like a passport, credit card or an ID because we’re naturally conditioned to protect those types of items. It’s crazy to think they’d survive the explosion and collapse when a human body does not, but it’s not implausible.

[@cchris874]

But it didn't survive the collapses because it was found before the collapses happened.

[@Larry26-f1w]

Any idea where 90% of the bodies ended up ? They were not at Ground Zero and there were thousands of them .

[@cchris874]

@@Larry26-f1w They were crushed into small fragments. Why is that so mysterious?

[@gjthomas9770]

There were bodies still strapped in their seats

[@watermelonsaviationland]

Can you make a video about like how the terrorists were able to go through the air port security

[@jaws392]

He did already. Just search for it on his channel.

[@knockeledup]

Airport security back then was practically non-existent.

[@H0Fidelity-rq4ry]

They could have tossed their passports prior to impact as a statement. The side window can be opened on some planes.

[@subject8332]

My fellow human they were travelling at about Mach 0.75.

[@eh1702]

Conspiracy theorists literally are people who have never been taught to think. Basic principles, like the principle of parsimony. They have no concept of it. Or that argument from incomprehension is not argument. Argument from ignorance is not an argument. Making insinuations is not making a case. Or an even argument. They have never been given basic principles - like what is and is not evidence, what conclusions evidence does and does not justify.

[@mariopezic4247]

You have a big point here...here is my example to proove your point:i dont know shit about arhitechture,planes,fires or anything,im not expert...but im learned to use logic an common sence and my think process is next:300+firefighters died that day...if anyone is expert they are....they knew the best what hell was inside the towers that day...and if anything was wrong the rest of firefighing family would riot or even worse that same day!

[@stringbender3]

How ironic and backward you are eh They say jump and you say how high! Go get another booster eh!

[@stringbender3]

Pfffft 😂

[@danieljoseph369]

How do you explain all the conspiracies that turned out to be true? Coincidence theorist's are TV programmed.

[@stringbender3]

@@danieljoseph369 They load the clip in Omni colour Pack the 9…

[@freewaymigliore1]

Who is colleen Fraser ?the burnt ID in the video.

[@RicArmstrong]

I wonder why there were no plane parts at the Pentagon or in Pennsylvania?

[@danielgloverpiano7693]

There were lots of plane parts at both sites. You’re just watching too much conspiracy nonsense. They found amazing things in the crater caused by Flight 93, including passports and IDs of passengers and terrorists. They found the black box, too. The two "black boxes" from United Airlines Flight 93 were found in the crash site crater in Stonycreek Township, Pennsylvania on September 13 and 14, 2001. On September 14, at 8:30 pm, the cockpit voice recorder was found at a depth of 25 feet. What objects were found among the wreckage? Primarily airplane wreckage, some personal effects, and a very small amount of unidentified human remains were found

[@RicArmstrong]

@@danielgloverpiano7693 I live 20 minutes from the "crash site" in Pennsylvania. Believe me, the first responders in this area all know it's a BS story who were there that day. Go back to watching CNN and take your booster shots.

[@cchris874]

@@RicArmstrong Oh no. that's bespeaks to a lack of research. The web is loaded with accounts of the 1st responders, some 1100 of them from 73 different agencies. You have not bothered to find even a single one???? They found 1500 body fragments from which the passengers IDs were made. The state trooper who found part of an engine in a catch basin; as mentioned, fuselage fragments, black boxes, engine core. Yes, you are right that in the first few moments, they could not find much debris. But within hours of combing the area, they found the cockpit in the trees, the body fragments, th strong stench of jet fuel was everywhere. You are a victim of selective evidence, and an inability to question your personal intuition and beliefs.

[@mjpthetrucker9485]

You might as well ask why there was paper flying out of the buildings after impact. Just go full Truther and question everything.

[@LukeD-Always]

The paper was that fell was just the remnants of the plane shaped paper-mache used to disguise the Israeli missile Larry Silverstein and his mossad friends launched 😂

[@MisterMcKinney]

The same possibility that any other thing the humans imbue meaning on was recovered.

[@mikero6225]

1:40 It's not obvious it was in the luggage. It could have been in a seatback, Or a carryon under the seat, Or on a carryon stowed away in an overhead bin, Or on a tray table, Or fallen out of a pocket onto the seat in first class when they got up, Or fallen onto the floor during the struggle to take over the plane, Or in the hijacker's pocket. There's no way to know exactly where it was on the plane when the plane impacted.

[@mycklaflonscamping1398]

You really can not counter argument how those passports by any chance did survive all the fire and impacts and the whole plane just disintegrated.

[@cchris874]

Counter which argument? That the passport did survive? Or could not have survived?

[@cipherjoe9]

Then explain the thousands of paper that flew out the towers

[@knockeledup]

You don’t know if the plane disintegrated upon impact. We only know what happened to the plane after impact and then being crushed during a building collapse. If the passport flew out right after impact, there’s still some likelihood the plane was somewhat intact but we will never know because the building collapsed. No one in these comments is thinking about how things happen in a progression of time. If you look at the footage after the plane impacts and see all the paper debris floating down, that’s my best guess as to when the passport was ejected.

[@cchris874]

@@knockeledup At these speeds there can be no doubt the plane began disintegrating instantly, and that most of it was in unrecognizable shreds within a second or two.

[@submerged8163]

@@knockeledup So everyone supposedly on those planes including the hijackers were all basically incinerated, and then crushed in the falling building didn’t survive, but somehow by some great miracle a passport happens to be conveniently found intact on the sidewalk. It’s time to wake up.

[@giblet1618]

That’s probably what the agents were picking up around the Pentagon. Besides the plane parts.

[@oddball6969]

cool vids keep it up!

[@BillyBong]

Passport would have probably been in his pocket, not luggage. Either way, thousands of laminated ids and credit cards were recovered. You can see at least a box full on videos thathave to do with fresh kills. It's not true that these ids couldn't be recovered after the collapse. Many were.

[@hughjanus5518]

@BillyBong so the passport from a man traveling in an airplane going over 500 miles an hour that strikes into a building completely causing the plane to explode, you are gullible enough to think that the passport could have survived all of this and made it to the streets below? You're really setting the bar low

[@BillyBong]

@hughjanus5518 so what about the 1000s of laminated ids that survived the collapse? What about a woman's boarding pass from flight 11? Is it just the passport of the hijacker or are all those suspicious for you? Cause regardless of whether you believe in the passport, they found a boarding pass and 1000s of ids in the rubble. You can even see it on videos about freshkills landfill, where all the rubble went.

[@koodigocrxzy465]

The 9/11 debate always comes down to a personal question. How many coincidences and random just perfect events do you personally allow before you say “that’s bullshit” 😂 Some people threshold is 1, some people 10 some people 100. I feel like everyone can stomach a difffent amount of randomness before they guess collusion

[@carrollsanders9376]

What debate is left twoofers lied for years.

[@Leafsdude]

Depends on the situation. In this one, considering the supposed "coincidences" and "just perfect events" that turn out to either be explained or misrepresented or just flat out made up, I'm nowhere close to calling "bullshit" yet. If the best you have is a passport, you don't have much.

[@koodigocrxzy465]

@@Leafsdude I wasn’t talking about a passporr

[@Leafsdude]

@@koodigocrxzy465 What were you talking about, then?

[@koodigocrxzy465]

@@Leafsdude I said the amount of coincidences. The passport isn’t the only coincidence nor one I even hold heavily

[@yasmanycorrea3643]

Well, something’s are just possible but people or humans like to over think stuff for some reason and make it big conspiracy theory or mystery etc.

[@3xcolorsFox]

The passport surviving the impact and explosion doesn't sound that crazy, plenty of other documents survived as well. We don't know where his passport was at the time of the crash, but it could have been Inside his pocket, or inside something that would have somewhat shielded it from the blast. Plenty of documents on the plane were inside luggage, wallets, storage compartments above passengers and in the bottom of the plane. Then, the fuel is stored in the wings, so a document's proximity to the wings would affect its survival on impact. What is hard for me to believe is it being found so quickly. Also, when talking conspiracy theories, don't always assume that the planners thought everything through. It doesn't always go off without a hitch.

[@zariballard]

Don't be ridiculous!!

[@matrixfree3480]

Diet soda drinker? Uggg. So unhealthy!

[@hamulimajeshi1512]

In Physics there's what's called INERTIA and MOMENTUM.... and the hijackers being in front of the plane there's high chance that their pieces of remains could go straight through the windows right from the nose of the plane.... That's my possible explanation...

[@owlhater270]

Critical thinking is weak in you.

[@hamulimajeshi1512]

@@owlhater270 you might be right or wrong....

[@a807511]

Not to mention, were found.... And they knew they were the hijackers.

[@lsaxman]

Have you done any videos on United 23 (possible 5th plane that never took off)? Would love to hear your thoughts about it 🩷

[@richarddietz2659]

The same reason there were multiple gun shots at the Kennedy assassination.

[@williemclean2607]

🎉

[@jimmystrickland1034]

How is it possible GW bush was chilling in the same town where the hijackers lived and trained before 9/11? He was chilling at a beach resort on 9/11. Huh?

[@LukeD-Always]

Who told you he was ‘chilling’ on 9/11? And even if he was what is the relevance of it being the same area that the hijacker trained in? Do you think he was there paying the bill for the flying lessons or something?

[@jimmystrickland1034]

@@LukeD-Always bushes Saudi handlers was paying the bills.

[@LukeD-Always]

@@jimmystrickland1034 so what’s the relevance of bush being in Florida 😂

[@jimmystrickland1034]

@@LukeD-Always just another coincidence I guess. More coincidences on 9/11 than any other tragedy ever in the history of tragedies.

[@LukeD-Always]

@@jimmystrickland1034 what would you consider the top 3 coincidences?

[@stringbender3]

They load the clip in Omni colour Pack the 9…

[@zakxd1232]

was there anyone in wtc 7 when the twin towers collapsed

[@carrollsanders9376]

Yes Barry Jennings who reported the Collapse of the Towers damaged Building 7, dislodged an Elevator car, and creating the perfect conditions for a Chimney effect in the elevator shaft.

[@BananaProdz627]

😮

[@edalexander6155]

Yes how is that ?🤔

[@graydonsmith5513]

Anything is possible when the government says it is..

[@Guitar38000]

Drinking diet Dr Pepper is crazy💀

[@natvega1]

I worked at Tedaboro airport in New Jersey when I was a teen, sevral years later a Mohamid family opens a bodega near where I lived, I go to the gym and the owner says he's a mohamid, on the day of 911 I was working at United Electric power which had a contract with the WTC, and on that day I had an appointment in the WTC but was delayed, I was thinking of having lunch at the windows of the world on the day of 911,,,,,,, Tedaboro airport is where the terrorists trained in flight operation....😮....in 1989 Teterboro airport was registered under the name "Fun Family Inc Jet-Am". Gallows hill Rd Cranford NJ 07016. Famous people like actors and singers would park their private jets there, actors like Bill Cosby. I know this because I have a detailed work history from the IRS which lists all of your employment in the United States.😄

[@knockeledup]

You can’t even correctly spell the name of an airport you supposedly worked at? Sure, I believe you…

[@natvega1]

@@knockeledup In 1989 Teterboro airport was registered under "Fun Family Inc. Jet-am",,,,out of Gallows hill RD. in Cranford NJ. ZIP CODE: 07016. Famous people like actors and singers would park their private jets their, one private jet I remember was of actor Bill Cosby. I know this because I have a detailed work history from the IRS which lists all your past employment in the United States.😄

[@natvega1]

@@knockeledup revised

[@LukeD-Always]

I don’t know where to start 😂 to claim you worked at an airport but don’t seem to know how to spell it is bizarre, secondly, that is neither the correct spelling of Mohammed nor the collective noun for Muslims 😂 and finally, it’s common knowledge that the hijackers trained in a Florida flight school

[@natvega1]

@@LukeD-Always yes, but not all trained in Florida, and as the years have gone by a lot of the information has been greatly hidden, God forbid people in New Jersey find out that famous people park their private helicops and private jets over there....

[@FreemanPennington-je5tn]

We can see explosions in the videos and jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to burn through steel that would require thermite which burns between 2,600 and 3600 degrees Fahrenheit depending on how you make it

[@melvynsngltn27]

Thermite 😂😂😂 your embarrassing yourself talking. I guess you never saw the 3 sided holes left in those Buildings after having them huge planes driven into them

[@ResidentOfTheAbyss]

⁠@@melvynsngltn27 You’re the one embarrassing yourself.

[@supermanepic15]

the beams didnt melt, they got softend and in fact sagged from their placements eva tually giving way, same goes for core columns and perimeter columns

[@melvynsngltn27]

@@ResidentOfTheAbyss nope unlike you I don't believe in fairytales

[@melvynsngltn27]

@@supermanepic15 not to mention columns were bend, broken & charred

[@StGtag]

Hi

[@TimLee356]

you're asking too many questions. be careful

[@Larry26-f1w]

You might get Spike Lee’d

[@Absolute_Goblin]

Are you unaware they used explosives lol

[@richardlowe9379]

I don’t believe nothing on this video

[@LukeD-Always]

So believe it all?

[@12AB17]

George bush did it

[@mariopezic4247]

Nah...did you seen his face when the i forgot who whispered him what happened when he was in that school in florida????maybe bush knew something is up but that face cannot be faken,he didnt do it

[@jameshealy6799]

I believe that one hundred percent about the passport

[@owlhater270]

You believe people like you too.

[@gmay8493]

I don’t actually find it surprising that someone found this on the ground and turned it in. Lucky perhaps (well, lucky is probably the wrong word given the circumstances, but you should know what I mean…) but certainly not beyond the realms of possibility. There’s a number of pictures out there of the debris surrounding the base of the towers after the plane impacts, but before collapse. Some of these are quite graphic and I wouldn’t recommend searching for them, but I have come across several while researching 9/11 that do show a number of items from inside the planes. Things like seat cushions, metal parts, even passenger luggage. Much of these pictures are taken from the surrounding streets in perhaps a 1 - 2 block radius from the towers. I would assume that there would have been a much larger amount of items in the Plaza itself, although fewer close-up pictures exist of these since they were very much off-limits to the public at this time and most pictures that would exist from this viewpoint would have been buried due to the extremely graphic nature as many of the victims who fell from the towers were in this area. So, it’s very possible that someone walking around the complex having seen what happened would have noticed aircraft parts and passenger belongings such as ID and thought ‘hmm, this looks like it could be important’ and handed it to the authorities. There were probably a bunch of other passenger IDs, etc found around the buildings that were also handed in, but we never hear about that. In terms of the likelihood of the passport itself surviving the impact, it’s again unlikely but far from impossible. The planes didn’t get completely vaporized on impact. Nor did they get ‘stuck’ inside of the towers. Instead, they fragmented upon impact. Some of those fragments remained inside of the building, some (such as one of the engines) actually made it all the way through the building, and some exploded outwards from the force of the fuel igniting. Lightweight things like paper, seat cushions, windows and luggage would be most likely for this to happen. To make a comparison, there’s plenty of evidence of similar destructive events, such as other plane crashes where only a crater in the ground exists or houses being hit by strong tornadoes where the building is completely fragmented and wiped out to the concrete slab, but lightweight items like insulation, paper vomit bags, safety cards or family photographs have been found many miles away. It’s very weird, but it’s very possible.

[@owlhater270]

Nobody is reading your long comment.

[@gmay8493]

@@owlhater270 Clearly you took the time to reply to it and tell everyone that important information, which is actually really weird, actually 🤷‍♂️ Guessing it’s more to do with the fact that you’re frustrated because you’re struggling to read it. There’s a lot of support for Dyslexia these days, it’s ok 🙂

[@cchris874]

@@owlhater270 I am, and it's far more enlightening than the three word bot replies of people who think they know everything; and that all the rest of us are blithering id-ots. This is the narcissist element of KZbin. I'm smarter than everyone else.

[@owlhater270]

@@gmay8493 Ummmmm... No, I spent more time typing than reading. If you're having trouble sleeping, just read his comments

[@owlhater270]

@@cchris874 is this the reverse UNO narcissist comment? People are ignorant on 9/11 and that is the crux of the problem

[@saldetii]

the story of the lady picking up the passport and turning it in does almost seem unbelievable, but its not the only instance of someone turning in things found in the debris. There is an artifact at the 9/11 museum of a piece of paper with something along the lines of "13 people trapped on 87th floor, please send help", and this was recovered by someone in passing who recovered the paper. So, it actually is believable that people were finding things around the site amidst the chaos. I think its just hard to process all of the micro events happening during the bigger event of 9/11 as a whole.

[@bigmike_420_9]

It makes zero sense how everything in those buildings was turned to complete dust, yet someone somehow managed to find a completely in tact passport. Something really seems off about that…

[@saldetii]

@@bigmike_420_9 well, not exactly. Many small things did survive- especially ones blown out of the building and recovered before the collapse. Again, there are plenty of bags, IDs, wallets, papers, phones, all those small things too that were recovered even after the collapse. But a passport being recovered is definitely possible. Again, the sheer scale of 9/11 is hard for us to wrap our heads around

[@Leafsdude]

@@bigmike_420_9 Here's the sad truth: sometimes things don't make sense. Doesn't make it a conspiracy. It's just the result of a complex, often chaotic, universe that we still don't really understand that well. Apparent coincidences happen. Reality sometimes _seems_ unrealistic to our savannah-molded ape brains. It tends to be the individuals who can't accept such basic unassailable facts who turn to conspiracy. And why it almost inevitably turns out that such conspiracies are not true.

[@bigmike_420_9]

@@saldetii that just doesn’t seem like a possible “coincidence”. Do you really think they just somehow found an ID from a supposed terroist that happened to cause that whole thing? That type of “coincidence” seems more of an intentional event of some sort when you apply logical thinking.

[@nutterknoll69]

Micro events like Building #7 collapsing the exact same way buildings 1 & 2 collapsed, yet, that didn't seem to make the news!

[@garethjackson6187]

There is absolutely no fucking way that their passports survived that. Beyond a zero chance.

[@MohammedAtta.11]

Jet fuel can melt steel beams but cant melt passport 🤗

[@eh1702]

Just look at all the stuff that you can see immediately throwing three-four blocks forward out of each crash. Entire plane seats, couple of wheels, baggage…

[@submerged8163]

Where does one see your hallucinations of those said objects?

[@3xcolorsFox]

I've seen pictures of baggage, wheels, but no planes seats. Good chance some did survive, but I have yet to see any pictures. I've seen pictures of seats from the Pentagon attack, but none for the Twin Towers.

[@conpop6924]

@@submerged8163there are pictures of luggage that are very clearly from the plane laying on the streets right below the towers. Multiple people who were escaping the towers said they saw plane seats laying on the ground too.

[@weewooweewoo906]

@@submerged8163you don't know about the wheels that landed on the street ???

[@PatriarchyPatrol]

​@@weewooweewoo906 wheels aren't paper thin

[@owlhater270]

And you people call truthers the conspiracy theorists

[@knockeledup]

What happens in an explosion? There’s an air burst. What are the types of items that get blown away the most easily? Paper. What happens when pieces of paper get blown away from a fire? They don’t get burned to ashes.

[@danielgloverpiano7693]

Excellent point. Mountains of papers from the towers descended on Brooklyn for hours afterwards. I’ve seen a video of people riding in a car over the Brooklyn Bridge before either tower collapsed. There is enough paper reigning down to look like a ticker tape parade. It’s quite spooky.

[@PatriarchyPatrol]

Hi M0ssad agent 😂

[@danielgloverpiano7693]

@@PatriarchyPatrol Hi Trump supporter. 😂👉🥺😩🤯😱😳

[@PatriarchyPatrol]

@@danielgloverpiano7693 Trump loved Zion ism

[@danielgloverpiano7693]

@@PatriarchyPatrol Yep, and he loves Russia. They stole the 2016 election for him. I speak Russian and saw their confession on state TV.

[@DTroop10thCav.]

If you people believe this fairy tale you can't be helped.

[@BillyBong]

Yet you're here to listen, you should go get a better hobby.

[@hughjass1044]

I remember some years back watching a show of some sort about crash investigators and some of the very peculiar things they encounter while doing their jobs. Perfectly preserved and still sealed luggage, cans of soda without so much as a scratch, fully intact magazines and often bodies with very few apparent injuries who were seated next to other passengers who they struggled to identify. Some stuff just defies explanation.

[@cchris874]

Yes, it's like tornadoes. They can inexplicably leave one house unscathed while destroying all the rest in the same path.

[@sonofhibbs4425]

That definitely happens. It’s just oohhh-so-convenient to have the passport of one of the hijackers. Kinda like winning lottery odds.

[@cchris874]

@@sonofhibbs4425 Speaking of which, did you know that on 9/11 2002, the New York state winning lottery number was - you guessed it. 911

[@hughjass1044]

@@sonofhibbs4425 What's "Oh-so-convenient" about it? I've never understood why that's suspicious somehow. What is it supposed to suggest? As DG said, there was all kinds of other assorted debris in various stages of damage from the planes and from the buildings which was found by lots of different people and besides, the hijackers took no efforts to conceal themselves. They knew who they all were and there's other documents which show which planes they were on. The fragment of a passport on the ground doesn't tell anyone anything they didn't already know. The only reason why the discovery of it is noteworthy at all is because it happens to belong to one of the hijackers. There could've been a hundred passports found on the ground and they never came to anyone's attention because there was no significance to them. If someone found and turned in the passports of Joe Blow from Kokomo or Wanda Wishy from Washington, who would care?