How Justice Created "Phantom Part II" with Distorted Synths and Samples

[@BeatsbyVanity]

Which artist would you like to see me cover next?

[@marcinrzap6700]

Rival Consoles

[@ahzootube]

Floating Points, Four Tet, Nicolas Jaar or from the newcomers Jasper Tygner. I won't say Fredagain because I think his material is covered enough.

[@louisemilemusic]

old nicolas jaar!

[@ahzootube]

@@louisemilemusic or against all logic first album :)

[@DJJuxtapose]

Troyboi.

[@kagaro99]

Great vid but for what it’s worth the distressor is technically a VCA compressor although it can emulate various compressors like the opto La2a and fet 1176 🤷‍♂️

[@maxmaldonado3966]

What did u change on the brass? i couldnt figure out the changes on the vid

[@remka2000]

The Alesis compressor story came from Daft Punk indeed, but I cannot stop to wonder how true it is. Maybe in their first tracks? You can (or used to) get this for 20-30 USD, seems it might be a bit more now, with all the mods and whatnot. Regarding "microsampling" I wonder too... Goblin's entire leads can be found on this album 😂

[@BeatsbyVanity]

I actually have one, but I've never used it! I think it was definitely a process from their earlier work, as their later music is too clean. Also, what do you mean by 'Goblin's entire leads can be found on this album'?

[@remka2000]

@@BeatsbyVanity I mean this song in particular kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4CYdaGuh5ihmJosi=hDzUyGldoBZ9qagQ Doesn't sound very micro, almost like a remix 😅 (I do love both tracks though).

[@BeatsbyVanity]

@@remka2000 Yeah, they sampled a lot of this for "Phantom." I didn't realize just how much they had taken, though. I used the intro sample from this track for the remake of "Phantom Part II," but "Phantom" is almost entirely sourced from this. Not an example of their 'micro' sampling techniques, admittedly 🤣

[@morganmensa5129]

@@BeatsbyVanity I use mine all the time. Always have. Put my SP404 through it. It's probably because it was a cheap, well made compressor with a sidechain input. I honestly think it sounds very similar to the french house music. It might just be a placebo effect.

[@benjaminshaolinsoul4890]

or massive attack special sounding

[@johndoe_1984]

They did everything ITB, supposedly with GarageBand but I don’t believe it

[@BeatsbyVanity]

It could be ITB if much of the material came from sampling. According to Wikipedia, there were around 400 albums used for samples on Cross. However, I read that it was more a combination of GarageBand/Cubase SX with hardware, followed by their micro-sampling techniques. Some have also speculated on Sebastian's involvement.

[@johndoe_1984]

@@BeatsbyVanityinteresting thanks. I think so too for Sebastian. If you compare Justice’s 2005 demo and Cross in 2007 it’s day also nigh production wise. Unless they improved drastically in 2 years, someone might have been involved. And Cross sounds a lot like Sebastian.

[@BeatsbyVanity]

@@johndoe_1984 That makes sense. Cross is their standout work, and it is very different from the rest of their catalog. However, I wonder why Sebastian's involvement, if true, wasn't officially credited.

[@johndoe_1984]

@@BeatsbyVanity yeah maybe "ghost" producer, or gave them tips? Here's DANCE demo kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaKvd3-ahd6AqqM, track is cool but without the final mix, it would not have been a hit. There's a few demos out there too.

[@EvanGisamazing]

Have y’all checked out the mixed with the masters Q&A? A lot of good information in there. Quadrafuzz VST is a lot of the sound. I’ve always agree with the SebastiAn speculation - Justice really struggle to recreate their 2007 sound even when they try.

[@bigdecibel]

Hey not sure if I missed it - What are the macros you created for the Vital bass you used for the Bass synth?

[@BeatsbyVanity]

You didn't miss it; I did, as I didn't end up using them. It's just a macro for Envelope 2's release control.

[@morganmensa5129]

When they came out it was said they used Trillion Bass on the slap bass setting.

[@BeatsbyVanity]

Interesting, I remember when Trillion was the go to plugin for bass. Thanks for letting me know!

[@morganmensa5129]

@@BeatsbyVanity Pretty sure that Trillion is in Omnisphere now. I would really like to know how they got that throughty chorused sound. Nilesh Patel or Nilz was the mastering engineer and he might have been the reason it sounds so analog in some ways.

[@BeatsbyVanity]

​@@morganmensa5129 Sadly, it’s still a separate library. I own Omnisphere, and I believe, like with Keyscape, you can load the patches in Omnisphere, but you need to own Trilian separately to do that.

[@MrKomiko77]

Hello thanks for your work ? i just bought the CD sample Justice, it is normal i don't find the strings ? i m on ableton ? thanks

[@BeatsbyVanity]

Hey there, are you referring to the Justice sample library? If so, no, the strings aren’t part of the pack, but I can send them over to you if you’d like.

[@MrKomiko77]

@@BeatsbyVanityExactly this is what i refer, it would be very nice from you if you can send me the strings please :) and thanks you for your work just try the preset yesterday i m very happy, let me know where i can send you my email :)

[@MrKomiko77]

@@BeatsbyVanity yes it would be great if you can send me the strings please, and also could you tell me which preset you use in this video because in the sample folder it's SBV30 etc ?? do you need anything for verification ?

[@BeatsbyVanity]

I can send you the project so you have everything from the video! No, there’s no need for verification-but how should I send the project? Are you on Discord?

[@benjaminshaolinsoul4890]

jai paul ?