Thanks for this podcast. Itโs wonderful to listen to you and learn from your experience living in Korea. Itโs so precious. I started following Jeepseekid for his amazing talent but often wondered what he was up to in Korea. But the sky is the limit for you threesome. Enjoy and explore life wherever you are.๐๐๐
@evolve_hq25 ะบาฏะฝ ะฑาฑััะฝ
Thanks so much for your kind words ๐ we're glad you enjoyed it! New podcast with Joel is out next week!
I lived as a Korean American in the US for over 30 years. And sadly.. I came to the realization that I will never be able to really be fully accepted as apart of society in the US. It just is a difficult thing to do with literally every country in the world. You will be accepted partially but fully accepted is another story.
@evolve_hq2 ะฐะน ะฑาฑััะฝ
Thanks for sharing, maybe the goal shouldn't be to be accepted by others, but to truly accept ourselves ๐๐
12:28 Korean people say โhow are you?โ and โ How have you been?โ all the time!!!! It is a common question and to be fair we ask this question more than you people!!!! โAnnyeongโ and โAnnyeonghaseyo?โ has a meaning of how are you and how are you doing? โAnโ means โbeing well/stable/peacefulโ โnyeongโ means โ days are/ life is good/going well without problemsโ. Among friends or acquaintances that you have not caught up for a short/long period time, we say โ์์ง๋ด(์) Jal-ji-nae(yo)โ or โ ์์ฆ์ด๋(์) Yo zzeum Eo ddae(yo)โ meaning how have you been doing, and among friends that you hang out with on a daily basis, we say โ๋ญํด(์)mueo-hae(yo)โ/โ์ด๋(์) Eo-ddae(yo)โ or โ๊ด์ฐฎ์(์) Gwanchan-a(yo)โ etc. all meaning and asking what/how are you doing?.. There are so many ways to ask how are you? in Korean. The most significant greeting is โ have you eaten?โ. By asking โ have you eaten anything?โ or โDid you eatโ, we express our care and affection toward each other. It is same as asking โ how are you?โ and โhow have you been?โ. Korean people have been through countless civil wars and invasions by foreign enemies since the establishment of the nation. We CARE about being alive, being well and being safe of one another as one group of people. Thats why our hello is ์๋ AN-NYENG (meaning I hope you are well, comfortable and safe). The algorithm shows me a series of shorts that foreigners who have some experience living in Korea share their own experiences with Korean culture, some are interesting but some are misinformative. Regarding holding the door thing, Korean people seldom turn head and check if anyone is walking behind. If there is a person who is coming right behind, we are mostly likely to hold the door, but the person coming behind is at a distance, we donโt stand and hold the door for the person, because we are busy heading to our destination and the person coming behind has a hand to push or pull the door.
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Thanks for your comment, sounds like you'll find this episode on language interesting too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXbPh6uBr8SWp7Mfeature=shared
โ@@WentworthRocket means you are not that interested
@GiovanniAdami2 ะฐะน ะฑาฑััะฝ
Man from individualist society comes to appreciate the benefits of communitarian society. I'm been on a similar journey. Born in Korea, rebelled against Korean Culture at home in the US, but came to appreciate it more as I grew up. I understand what he's saying. There seems to be an identity and meaning problem in the West. Until the 1980's, 80% of Americans bowled with other people. By the late 90's, 90% of people bowled alone. I have 2 interesting book recommendations: Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam The World We Have Lost by Peter Laslett (British Society before and after the Industrial Revolution)
@evolve_hq2 ะฐะน ะฑาฑััะฝ
Very interesting, thanks for watching and for sharing these!
Interesting in a video about prejudices that I immediately discredited Joel as being less educated and then he spoke so eloquently but in a way true to his roots. I, too, am learning to live in Korea as a brit - think if you can grow thick skin, you learn a lot through the experience. Living in Busan, it seems, is like hard mode versus living in Seoul, where foreigners are more established and things are more progressive.
It seems Joel is just so positive and well understanding differences in wherever he's and whoever he encounters, but it is not easy to see that way. Even in the States, and if you were Asian, safer to stay in your own community. If you were a person with color, you will soon find that the US is one of the truly racist countries, but some people are still very nice, of course. Korea might take a little longer time to accept various aspects and people from all other countries since it's not used to being around with.Thank you for sharing ๐
I dont like small talk ๐ ๐ sometimes we just fit better somewhere else it sounds like a great short term experience. to experience Korea in this way not the tourist stuff.
@evolve_hq2 ะฐะน ะฑาฑััะฝ
Yes it's definitely a very different experience when you're immersed with locals! โจ
Living in Korea without knowing the meaning of the basic Korean greeting "anyunghaseyo" is not a basic human attitude. It means, "Are you comfortable? Everything is okay?" Nowadays, Koreans perceive foreigners living in Korea as being uncomfortable and lowering the standard of Korean society. Clothes are also one of the manners. I am concerned that they are increasingly negative about foreigners.
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Thanks for the excellent point! How do you suggest we learn more? As visitors we had a great time there!
As a Korean American that has lived in both countries, Korea and u.s, I'd say both has its flaws. Korea has high pressure,.and America is too individualistic and liberal. But it it what it is. I enjoy Argentina more than both.
@evolve_hq2 ะฐะน ะฑาฑััะฝ
Thanks for sharing, it's clear that no country is perfect but we can learn from each and every one!
@@mvkuri This information is fascinating! I agree that foreigners really need to understand the difference in. cultural contexts between Korea and their own countries, at the same time, it's also sad to here that people are becoming colder to each other, why do you think this is?
@@peu815 Thanks for sharing your perspective on this! What makes you say that?
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I'm Korean Aussie and I don't think Koreans not holding the door for someone is a cultural thing but just pure selfishness and some lack of spatial awareness and it really needs to become normalised at one point. Same as other things like standing aside for people to get off the subway, holding elevator doors if someone is obviously trying to get on as well as downright important stuff like making way for emergency vehicles without being honked at to do so. There are just so many things for Korea to improve on at a social level to truly become a first world country apart from being economically successful. Especially if Koreans are really bent on surpassing their Japanese arch nemesis where these things don't happen even with the higher population density. But then again I'm being hypercritical at a country that has already gone from 0 to 100 in just half a century.
@evolve_hq2 ะฐะน ะฑาฑััะฝ
Interesting perspective, thanks for commenting
@AL-sd5cs2 ะฐะน ะฑาฑััะฝ
I was going to say a similar thing, i do love Korea and had a great time living in Seoul between 2007-09, but leave Seoul and the little etiquette that people have ends at the dinner table. Koreans are more worried about pouring a soju bottle with 2 hands..there is no driver etiquette, cars have the right of way, if there is a person crossing the street, Iโll wait for them but the people behind me will always honk..spitting and throwing litter and cigarette butts all over the allyโs and roads, no general spatial awareness for others..this is why many large scale tragic accidents happen in Korea, people just donโt have an awareness for potential dangers that most other developed countries doโฆalso KZbinrs always say Korea, while most only spend time in Seoul, Seoul and the rest of Korea are 2 very different places, from people, food, living standards, weather, administration and dealing with foreigners..Korea does have a long way to go to be a truly developed country
@@AL-sd5cs I just think it is just humans being humans. Every country I've been to, there were societal problems that seemed normalized. Like you said, it will take little longer for South Korea to catch up on that front because they put most of their eggs in the economy basket to improve their country from war. Sometimes, you just gotta let things flow and control the things you are able to control instead. I personally think there is no such thing as "truly developed country." Unless utopia is achievable, it will be impossible to create such nation/society.