How Long Can You Cheat In CS2 Before Getting Banned?

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HaiX

HaiX

Күн бұрын

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@HaiX
@HaiX Ай бұрын
Forgot to mention , both accounts are still not banned.
@electroboof
@electroboof Ай бұрын
pls russia
@Bonito_huh
@Bonito_huh Ай бұрын
True Valve moment , i reported some rage cheaters a year back and they are still unbanned....I just love this game so much 🥰
@bettathanyall
@bettathanyall Ай бұрын
blud didnt you say you will stop with the cheating videos 😭
@nikolasmiljanic3832
@nikolasmiljanic3832 Ай бұрын
looooooool
@lu1zh16
@lu1zh16 Ай бұрын
youre stupid, with this video even more cheaters will cheat
@scripted44
@scripted44 Ай бұрын
Now imagine how many people are just slightly cheating to improve their odds
@tinolm6202
@tinolm6202 Ай бұрын
Ye, but that's in every game...
@LXRDMANE
@LXRDMANE Ай бұрын
Been cheating in cs for 5 years, most games I don’t even get reported, I use esp,but only prefire when I can clearly hear the steps or got info from my teammates, and no aimbot or triggerbot
@dan-mg4fi
@dan-mg4fi Ай бұрын
⁠@@LXRDMANEthats like playing dodgeball with a bunch of toddlers and feeling good about yourself for winning lol
@sjen1223
@sjen1223 Ай бұрын
@@LXRDMANE ur a very sad man, just play clean and get good. feels much better ;)
@henkearn1132
@henkearn1132 Ай бұрын
@@LXRDMANE you want a pat on the back or something? get good noob
@Brothaz2
@Brothaz2 Ай бұрын
Vac live is the longest running aprils fools joke.
@HowieRaps
@HowieRaps Ай бұрын
It's all a joke. Genuinely
@xtripx4273
@xtripx4273 Ай бұрын
True
@atsizbalik
@atsizbalik Ай бұрын
no way people actually trused vac live, all it would do is just cancel the match when a cheater is detected
@GT_yt
@GT_yt Ай бұрын
nope just got vac lived while doing the same thing, 1 round
@unlimited3680
@unlimited3680 Ай бұрын
this is why riot vanguard is x100 times better
@per4n
@per4n Ай бұрын
how long can you cheat in real life before getting banned? (vac too good, i cannot even start relationship with woman i am 38 years old virgin never had gf)
@ShitPosting-f2n
@ShitPosting-f2n Ай бұрын
thats sad bro
@ChimpanzeeUltra
@ChimpanzeeUltra Ай бұрын
keep on keeping on.
@per4n
@per4n Ай бұрын
@@ChimpanzeeUltra thank you bro
@kittuojha
@kittuojha Ай бұрын
at least you have money. Here is a Louis ck joke that fits your case. “but it gets better because you’ll all grow up, “and you pretty much look just like this your whole life, “and they (women) don’t. “Their options start running out really fast, “and you’re gonna be there. “As long as you stay relatively employed and washed, “you’re gonna be amazing in your 40s. “You’re gonna be- “you’re gonna be the branch that she can grab “before she hits the ground. “It’s gonna be so great. “It just takes time for her circumstances “to match your looks, but it’s gonna happen. “It’s gonna happen. “When real shit matters, you’re gonna be the sexiest motherf**ker in the world.” It’s just time. That’s all it takes. There’s a formula to this. It’s pussy plus time over income squared.
@fluffymandy
@fluffymandy Ай бұрын
just DM me lol
@icymaro
@icymaro Ай бұрын
dont end with the content creation because of the twitch thing
@SA-ce4vt
@SA-ce4vt Ай бұрын
Did he get banned? Why?
@alex_wens
@alex_wens Ай бұрын
What twitch thing
@M1XB0X
@M1XB0X Ай бұрын
?
@icymaro
@icymaro Ай бұрын
@@SA-ce4vt he had a small talk About it in the training 5k elo premier players
@JaCKal_0000
@JaCKal_0000 Ай бұрын
short answer: VAC dont work when cheaters do "safe mode" and cheaters still not banned but only cooldown💀
@HowieRaps
@HowieRaps Ай бұрын
I've had 3 games cancelled by VAC and we could never find anyone who was VAC banned and now this video answered why. They just get a cooldown. I don't even think there is an anticheat at this point, does this mean 0 VAC bans on CS2??
@MiekuahProductions
@MiekuahProductions Ай бұрын
Maybe vac only works if somebody report em and let the vac re-monitor the reported user for abnormal gameplay
@charlech
@charlech Ай бұрын
@@HowieRapsno immediate bans, they seem to do it in waves after some period
@thinh2k14dzvl
@thinh2k14dzvl Ай бұрын
@@HowieRaps valve allow cheat
@piituchaols7965
@piituchaols7965 Ай бұрын
not suprised...
@rsbeats_
@rsbeats_ Ай бұрын
15:50 bro dropped the hard R in swedish😭
@FraggeR-gt6ii
@FraggeR-gt6ii Ай бұрын
hahahaahah
@4mat.
@4mat. Ай бұрын
I mean he isn't wrong
@ANDR0iD
@ANDR0iD Ай бұрын
wtf is a hard r?
@pengi21
@pengi21 Ай бұрын
@@ANDR0iDn word
@sverigeanon0021
@sverigeanon0021 Ай бұрын
Skulle precis kommentera detta så ser jag den här
@edy1219
@edy1219 Ай бұрын
In all my time of playing cs2 I've never seen that VAC Live match cancelled screen.
@xtripx4273
@xtripx4273 Ай бұрын
I had once.
@CMT1997
@CMT1997 Ай бұрын
I also have only seen it once, and that was months ago.
@ZETxZ4
@ZETxZ4 Ай бұрын
@@CMT1997 And now we all learned that false feeling of hope that those cheaters got banned is a lie and they actually only got a cooldown, wild.
@real_reZmi
@real_reZmi Ай бұрын
I've seen one and I'm pretty sure it was a false positive. It was right after the snap tap update and people were getting cooldowns for spamming A D keys.
@everett7812
@everett7812 Ай бұрын
same but ive been blatantly hacked on almost every other match since the release of cs2 😭
@Wilsonnr1
@Wilsonnr1 Ай бұрын
15:49 the swedish guy said something very sus hahahah
@shaeggi2886
@shaeggi2886 Ай бұрын
What did He say?
@Officialpunchy
@Officialpunchy Ай бұрын
@@shaeggi2886 Not sure if we should cancel him
@nilo8932
@nilo8932 Ай бұрын
The swedish guy is cocked. Rip
@hvatrordu1
@hvatrordu1 Ай бұрын
@@shaeggi2886 hard r in swedish
@andruska1312
@andruska1312 Ай бұрын
You make it sound like he did something wrong
@lovacc_1967
@lovacc_1967 Ай бұрын
I had a cheater on my team yesterday he told me that he has been cheating for over a year with no repercussions that's insane he didnt even seem to be cheating but he always knew where the enemies were due to wallhack he intentionally loses some matches CS2 isn't a game anymore it's just a casino
@snared_
@snared_ Ай бұрын
I play legit and flame cheaters
@Ohhhhhhhhhhho
@Ohhhhhhhhhhho Ай бұрын
I’ve not been banned for over a year since cheating, it’s crazy how Valve don’t care😂
@snared_
@snared_ Ай бұрын
@@Ohhhhhhhhhhho valve asumes you repsect humans enough to not discard 9 people's experience in order to marginally optimize 1 person's experience. So no, valve doesn't care, because they hope you aren't just going to be an absolute narcissist
@shizu4073
@shizu4073 Ай бұрын
@@Ohhhhhhhhhhho but u cheat because u are too bad to win in ranked right?
@Ohhhhhhhhhhho
@Ohhhhhhhhhhho Ай бұрын
@@shizu4073 I haven't played CS since, that game is dead af
@WatterySnake13
@WatterySnake13 Ай бұрын
this is actually so sad that my loved game gets unplayable because of cheaters
@reckmerz8255
@reckmerz8255 Ай бұрын
That's why I shifted to valorant bro legit met 0 cheaters in 3 years...
@atsizbalik
@atsizbalik Ай бұрын
for me it was the performance, i can't even play the game above 40fps regularly. i just gave up on competitive games after that
@pastaleshta
@pastaleshta Ай бұрын
Faceit. Still possible to get cheaters but not probable
@kanyesbutthole2717
@kanyesbutthole2717 Ай бұрын
@atsizbalik40 fps on csgo isn’t the games fault, a computer from 1990 would get 100 gps on that game just say your poor😹😹🫵
@solosuck
@solosuck Ай бұрын
@@pastaleshta awesome so my 2 choices are chronically online mentally ill man children with 3k pugs only on mirage or cheaters, expected from small indie company valve
@Muhammad_Ali_2301
@Muhammad_Ali_2301 Ай бұрын
I thind it would take like a few thousand games for VAC to detect it. It's not that bad, right?
@theultimatetrashman887
@theultimatetrashman887 Ай бұрын
If it cant detect it after 20, it wont after a thousand. Unless it gets updated it wont ever notice some of those cheats.
@michaelshu9716
@michaelshu9716 13 күн бұрын
@@theultimatetrashman887 the only thing that need side notes are the feature of the cheats... If the safe feature cheat in the video are true. then its really not detectable maybe about 20+ or maybe even after 30+ games and i shocked that vac is an AI anti cheat which is deppresing tbh, also if face it have good anti cheat why dont valve just work together with face it so they can work less as they wanted to but earn more. IS THIS ALSO AN EGO THING? (like those cheaters ego to never lose?)
@ground-beef
@ground-beef Ай бұрын
5:35 guy didn't mention that they would have to reverse engineer the cheats, which have pretty decent protection against debuggers and disassemblers
@BxPanda7
@BxPanda7 Ай бұрын
Yup, the cheats are filled with nonsense code so you'd have to sift trough millions of lines of gibberish to get anywhere near reverse engineering anything, it's a very long, tedious and difficult process. You're better off just buying source code that's on sale and detect specific features instead of the cheats themselves.
@tolkienfan1972
@tolkienfan1972 Ай бұрын
You don't have to look at code. You get a lot from turning features on and off and using harnesses to monitor the behavior
@tinolm6202
@tinolm6202 Ай бұрын
Well ye, average cs player. has NO idea what it's like to make an anticheat. And I really don't think a cheatDeveloper has any Idea what it's like either.
@jordixboy
@jordixboy Ай бұрын
not impossible though. Not sure why they just checksum the major cheating software, check the system for that and just block the game if a checksum in the hardcoded list is found .. yeah you'd need to ship a new version of the client everytime cheat software updates but still better than this
@plutoUwU
@plutoUwU Ай бұрын
@@tinolm6202 cheat devs need to know how the anticheat software works for whatever game their developing for, kernels being the hardest to get around, but not impossible. most cheat developers also know many ways the anticheat devs could fix these things. they may not know what its like to make one, but they sure as hell know them as well as they can
@infamearts
@infamearts Ай бұрын
Fun fact: If you read the official Steamworks documentation for VAC, it openly says: "VAC only detects cheats reported by the developer". This is one of the layers why VAC barely works nowadays. A cheat gets patched! No worries, let's just restructure the code and tada!
@ДаниилСмирнов-у4о
@ДаниилСмирнов-у4о Ай бұрын
In sense speaking Vac is not anti cheat but blacklist?
@infamearts
@infamearts Ай бұрын
@ДаниилСмирнов-у4о correct.
@djordemahoney
@djordemahoney Ай бұрын
Funfact: It isnt as easy as "just restructure the code" if you want to proof the code again :) i write shit like this for about 12-14 years now.
@grita382
@grita382 Ай бұрын
​@djordemahoney Uh sorta is, you can bloat code in that does nothing and its enough to get past VAC, its that basic of an anti cheat. Hence why there are tools specifically do this and why open source cheats dont get you banned if people build their own binary with junk code.
@djordemahoney
@djordemahoney Ай бұрын
@grita382 go watch the lastest video from haix with the cheater. There it is explained better than i did. And also video proof of what is stated xd
@Kaiess01
@Kaiess01 Ай бұрын
After watching this video, it's made me even more confused to how cheaters can enjoy playing like this.
@ItsAlpa
@ItsAlpa Ай бұрын
Bored and trolling if I were to guess
@mamaguebitoklk5575
@mamaguebitoklk5575 Ай бұрын
​@@ItsAlpa Maybe for the blatant cheaters. What about the closet cheaters?
@gnshp8167
@gnshp8167 Ай бұрын
That was my first thought, the game just looks so boring.
@wilzzuu
@wilzzuu Ай бұрын
​@@mamaguebitoklk5575 Closet cheaters just want to feel like they are good at the game when they are actually just trash
@jack-uz3uy
@jack-uz3uy Ай бұрын
Thats why most cheaters Play hvh of u hvh there is some skill to it or u just fuck around movement cheating witch is how alot of bhop montags are made just cheating to rank up is barely done precisly because its boring
@samyeru
@samyeru 19 күн бұрын
Yesterday, I was reported by VAC as acting suspiciously and got a 20 hour ban, but I don't have any cheats, so I'm wondering what VAC didn't like.
@FriendlyCDN
@FriendlyCDN Ай бұрын
I’ve literally seen blatant walkers running around with butterfly knives. That’s how confident they are now.
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 Ай бұрын
Skin changers exist.
@xninja2369
@xninja2369 Ай бұрын
​@@krazed0451I don't think skin changer are server side otherwise cs economy would f*k uped
@ItzKriger
@ItzKriger Ай бұрын
@@krazed0451 skin changer doesn't make faked skins visible to others on server, it's visual and completely client-sided. But if @FriendlyCDN was talking about clips recorded by the cheaters themselves, then ur right.
@FriendlyCDN
@FriendlyCDN Ай бұрын
@@krazed0451 skin changers dont change the items in their steam inventory chief
@mhmwtf765
@mhmwtf765 Ай бұрын
had a cheater with dlore and stuff like thousand knives in his inv he showed me everything buddy wasnt even hiding it and i asked him why and stiff he said he doesnt give shit since he has scammed everything and tried to do the same to me for my kato wanting a trade first and then pay instead of 10% less paying because the 2% fees broski was woried about
@Fesko-ly1wr
@Fesko-ly1wr Ай бұрын
I've been living under a rock, and last i played CS was when it was "global offensive" and cost about 10 dollars, playing was much easier back then and i thought maybe people just became so skilled
@tukier1685
@tukier1685 Ай бұрын
:DDDD
@hehmde
@hehmde Ай бұрын
Huge skill issue on your side or shit trust factor
@Fesko-ly1wr
@Fesko-ly1wr Ай бұрын
@hehmde my point is that this "skill issue" was more of a common thing than now
@sequoiabanshee
@sequoiabanshee Ай бұрын
@@Fesko-ly1wr I recently started getting back into CS and can say with 100% certainty that i encounter far fewer blatant cheaters than I did in 2015. Even when someone on the enemy team calls me a cheater and I think "oh boy now they're going to toggle because they think I'm cheating," the rest of the game typically plays out like normal. That said, I believe trust factor reset between CSGO and CS2 so maybe you have to build it back up to get decent games.
@lunaticmode638
@lunaticmode638 15 күн бұрын
@@sequoiabanshee in low-mid elo its less blatant and more closet. In high elo people know they dont get banned so they go full rage, but lowelo andies think they are only safe if they do "legit" so they just do walls and slight aimassists
@ThReal90sPope
@ThReal90sPope Ай бұрын
The only way to eliminate cheating is server-side anticheat that monitors every single move and action. Doable, would need to upgrade servers which cost money, so valve won't do it.
@kn0t1g
@kn0t1g Ай бұрын
and what would that anticheat do with that information? because everything you can do while "legit" cheating is theoretically possible without cheats, so how would it catch people walling or radar hacking? would it just ban everyone that plays good? don't be dumb, either we get automatic anticheat to handle blatant shit + manual review for closet cheating (like we did in csgo), or we get a kernel level ac
@Miiiasm
@Miiiasm Ай бұрын
You can't rely on updating the anti-cheat based on the cheats features (It's how normal VAC works) because the way they do this is by detecting a specific cheat by pieces of it's hex bytecode (signatures) and it is completely useless because thanks to obfuscation tools (ex. VMProtect) you are able to recompile the cheat with totally different mutated and virtualized assembly instructions, and so the bytecode signatures become useless. They update their database with your cheat, you press a button and you get a completely scrambled undetected version of the same identical cheat, they add this one too, you do it again.. and so on..
@bussin1337
@bussin1337 Ай бұрын
yep, was funny listening to him talk about that lol bro thought he solved cheating
@never_unsealed
@never_unsealed Ай бұрын
Thats why at this point they pretty much abandoned the classic VAC. Since release they didn't put out any classic clientside detection (maybe aimware at the beginning) and now 100% focus on the vacnet serverside detections (which are still really bad but better than before)
@zaron2746
@zaron2746 Ай бұрын
aka is shit XD
@unlimited3680
@unlimited3680 Ай бұрын
this is why riot vanguard x100 times better
@Frizzable
@Frizzable Ай бұрын
Yo I’m down to drop $100,000 on bots that cheat in MM. if they can’t fix it, let’s make the game unplayable or destroy it in the process so they HAVE to do something. Who’s with me?
@HaiX
@HaiX Ай бұрын
I don’t think that 100k will be enough to ruin the entire MM system. It would take way more
@Frizzable
@Frizzable Ай бұрын
@ that’s what I’m willing to drop. we gotta do something. We need to crash the skins market by making the game literally unplayable and then valve will do something abt it. I know $100k isn’t enough. But it’s a start. I need more people on board
@jewishbanana7055
@jewishbanana7055 Ай бұрын
@@FrizzableYeah 100k is more then enough, even 10k is overkill. If you find an actual honest programmer then they can easily do it on even rentable machines, that’s good enough to deploy literally hundreds of thousands of bots.
@Frizzable
@Frizzable Ай бұрын
@ wait are you being fr, I always thought it would be easiest to do it on some sort of server farm but because I’m essentially burning money with no income I thought it would cost a lot more. I just want to run cheap script spin bots on literally as many accounts as possible. I want every single game to be ruined that’s queued. thus forcing valve to do something because even FKN Minecraft can detect when ur cheating. Cs is one of my favorite games ever, but when I try to play with my friends and we get 5 games in a row with people either cheating on our team or against us there’s literally no point
@jewishbanana7055
@jewishbanana7055 Ай бұрын
@ Yeah, 10k can buy you a lot of equipment. If you buy machines designed just for this kind of stuff then you could easily run around 1k-3k probably accounts. If renting servers from different regions it would be more effective. I think cs2 has like 350k players average online at a given time. So that’s 9 players per match excluding the bot, and with this amount of bots it could be about 27k players games ruined. Honestly since cs2 can run on lab tops well it really isn’t resource intensive, so I would probably be able to push it to 5k-8k accounts running. The bigger issue with this is that valve would probably instead of trying to fix the game and the anti cheat, rather just find us and pursue us legally to get us in jail as an example. For a billion dollar company it’s far easier for them to do that then actually fix the game.
@johnym109
@johnym109 Ай бұрын
Cheating Until Permanent VAC Banned. This is what I thought the video was about
@jack-uz3uy
@jack-uz3uy Ай бұрын
That would take years
@r.e.d.studios
@r.e.d.studios Ай бұрын
Yessss another video bro!!! (I’m losing sleep for this idc)
@Nacia-z7e
@Nacia-z7e Ай бұрын
250+ games or never
@enderagent
@enderagent Ай бұрын
Ok
@bmrc
@bmrc Ай бұрын
I'm red trust and I play legit, the matchmaking system is stupidly broken. I literally can not get out of 10K elo despite top fragging and complaining that my team either won't listen to me or are sped
@HandsomeMadMax
@HandsomeMadMax Ай бұрын
The worst thing is that you can get to red trust factor simply by being reported (falsely) a lot. So you end up playing with a bunch of cheaters and trolling kids because people with victim mentality report you for ACTUALLY just being better and not for cheating. Good fcking system...
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 Ай бұрын
I don't believe you.
@bmrc
@bmrc Ай бұрын
@@krazed0451 You don't have to. I'm just sharing an experience.
@hallo111gameplays
@hallo111gameplays Ай бұрын
I got the same problem..my trust likes to get red after playing scout and hitting some good shots and like 1 or 2 crazy shots with it in a match...then nearby players doesn't have more than 10 ppl and most don't even have a rank and have new accs or are non prime instead of the always 20 ppl with with ranks and mostly multiple medals
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 Ай бұрын
@@hallo111gameplays Turn your cheats off.
@karakami
@karakami Ай бұрын
Did I saw the best gambling sponsor ever? "You have to be 18+ to play"
@Strekki
@Strekki Ай бұрын
4:10 Valve used to do this, they would buy cheats and reverse engineer them to detect them, but cheat devs update their cheats often and the rat race was impossible to keep up with, and private/invite only cheats exist, VACNET is Valves attempt at a long term solution with short term (lol) lack of success
@syntetic1715
@syntetic1715 Ай бұрын
No one should be mad at you. You showing us how vac is working and its working like i tought. Ty brother 😅
@littletweeter1327
@littletweeter1327 Ай бұрын
Alright it’s one thing to take gambling sponsors, it’s another to say you won twice in a row and withdrew lol
@AtomicCortex
@AtomicCortex Ай бұрын
Haix flying close to the sun with that happy merchant meme
@Yekiim
@Yekiim Ай бұрын
Just to clarify what you were talking about at around 5:00. That just simply is not possible. Every cheat you can buy will be protected and you cannot just simply see the source. And even then when it comes to anticheat development, you cannot just "download the features to the anticheat"
@emilgebl8644
@emilgebl8644 Ай бұрын
That's how you know the guy clearly knows nothing.
@monkaSisLife
@monkaSisLife 29 күн бұрын
@@emilgebl8644 both of your comments show that YOU don't know anything. Valve has probably the top 1% developers in the world. All they would have to do is set up a Reverse Engineering Division and Reverse all those game cheats. It would probably take then a few months and all the features would be reversed. The actually more smarter thing for them to do is to set up a Counter AI to their Anti-Cheat AI, that will develop cheats and test them. Basically an Internal AI Arms Race. Cheater AI vs Anti-Cheat AI, then when its somewhat useable, use the fixes the Anti-Cheat AI developed to fix the game. *Since we are not at that point with AI at the moment this is just wishful thinking.*
@real_e
@real_e 29 күн бұрын
​@@monkaSisLife No offense, but it seems like you might not have a complete understanding of how this works either. It’s not about reverse engineering the software to figure out how the cheat works. The reality is, the developers of these cheats didn’t attend some secret “How To Make Game Cheats 101” class-they learned through publicly available information. In fact, creating cheats is a skill that anyone with programming knowledge and enough determination can pick up. This includes companies like Valve, who are undoubtedly aware of how these cheats operate. The real issue is that cheats function on a level outside the game’s operational scope, making them inherently difficult to detect. Let me break it down for you. When a game is launched, it operates within a defined scope on your system. This scope is intentionally limited for reasons like security, system compatibility, and to ensure smooth performance. However, cheats exploit this by running outside the game’s boundaries. They often manipulate the game’s memory or interact with the system in ways that the game itself is not equipped to monitor or control. Most cheats work by modifying or reading the game’s memory in real-time. Think of it as if your brain is being hijacked and your thoughts are being replaced or read without you even realizing it. For example, if you’re thinking about your favorite color being blue, but someone swaps that thought mid-process to green, you’d only ever “know” green was the original thought-because you can’t access the overwritten information. Or, imagine if you were the only person who knew the location of some hidden item, but that information was simply read from your mind without you even knowing it. Similarly, the game cannot detect that its memory has been tampered with or read because it simply doesn’t have the capability to monitor those changes. To illustrate this further, let’s say there’s an aimbot cheat. When you're in a multiplayer game, each players in-game model is somewhere on the map, and that model's location is stored somewhere in the game's memory. Code can be written to read the game's memory and find the location of the other players, before moving the players crosshair to the direction of the closest enemy player. The game doesn’t inherently know this is happening because it doesn’t have visibility into these external manipulations. Another example is a godmode cheat. Somewhere within the game's memory, the health value for the player is stored. Code can be written to detect when this value changes, and reset it back to max health, effectively making you invincible. The game simply cannot know if this value is read or changed because it cannot access its own memory. Anti-cheat systems must therefore operate on a broader system level to identify such behaviors, which is a challenging task given how sophisticated modern cheats have become. Now the examples I described above are very simple examples, and one of the ways some multiplayer games are able to prevent cheats is by storing information on the server (which can not be modified by cheat applications as it is an entirely different device) as well as the client, and if the server detects that the client is sending data that does not match what is on the server, then a red flag can be drawn. For example, if the server knows the players coordinates are (154, 144) but on the next communication the client is telling the server that the player is at (642, 665), it can be assumed something is wrong and the player has likely teleported. Or, another example, if the server knows a players health is 50 but the client is suddenly reporting the players health is 100, yet the client has also not reported any healing items used or similar, then it can be assumed something is wrong. But this only works to an extent. There are various things that are extremely difficult, if not downright impossible, to detect on the server. Which is where full-fledged anti-cheat programs come into play, but again, they have their difficulties as well. The point is, it’s not about whether Valve knows how cheats work-they do. The challenge is creating tools that can effectively counteract cheats functioning at a higher system level than the game itself. Anti-cheat AI is not a bad idea. It actually already exists, but as with local anti-cheats and server-sided anti-cheat, AI anti-cheats have their issues as well. Most AI anti cheats would need to be run on the server level and use data available by the server instead of running on the client, because AI is very hardware demanding and creating a localized AI anti-cheat would make game requirements very demanding as well. And as with server-sided anti-cheats that already exist, there are many different cheats that can't be detected on the server-side, which would also make them largely undetectable by the AI anti-cheat as well. AI anti-cheat essentially have to be like a moderator watching the game and looking for irregular patterns of the players, which are easy to avoid on the cheater's side.
@emilgebl8644
@emilgebl8644 29 күн бұрын
@@monkaSisLife The irony is insane. How much work experience do you have regarding anything that's related to computer engineering / software development / cheating development etc? Please explain to me how reverse engineering works, for every game?? oh ok
@monkaSisLife
@monkaSisLife 29 күн бұрын
@emilgebl8644 wtf are you talking about "for every game"
@hallo111gameplays
@hallo111gameplays Ай бұрын
"getting red trust is a process that takes a while" meanwhile I don't even need cheats to get red trust, playing scout only for a few games is enough
@hugobyberg1493
@hugobyberg1493 Ай бұрын
Bro just dropped the hard r in swedish 15:48
@aikontop1312
@aikontop1312 Ай бұрын
Yea he did
@buddmcstudd6994
@buddmcstudd6994 Ай бұрын
Should be simple if then code to prevent this. Like if you wipe the enemy within 15 seconds of the round over and over, flag it. If you shoot through multiple walls/wallbang percentage is high, flag it. If your headshot percentage is very high, flag it. If your player momentum average is high (bhopping constantly) flag it. Should be very very simple
@IWatchSecks
@IWatchSecks Ай бұрын
Then go on, do it
@aleksi789
@aleksi789 Ай бұрын
yeah and then the cheat developers patch it in 5 minutes and valve loses more money fixing it instead of updating the game
@dipsithecreeper
@dipsithecreeper 25 күн бұрын
There are already flags for headshot wallbangs over and over it gives you an irregular gameplay cooldown which is 3 days up to 14 days.
@Cameron-ls3qt
@Cameron-ls3qt Ай бұрын
7:30, so does this mean that the idiots who call cheats on me a report are ruining MY TRUST and making me play more cheaters
@MichałPacanowski-f9c
@MichałPacanowski-f9c Ай бұрын
Yes, and this is CS2 ELO hell
@Cameron-ls3qt
@Cameron-ls3qt Ай бұрын
@MichałPacanowski-f9c ...so faceit really is a good option even if I hear it's gotten kinda bad. I get cheats called at least 2]% of my games...
@jack-uz3uy
@jack-uz3uy Ай бұрын
Yes Back in csgo u even could get people baned for a while using Report Bots even tho they were legit
@viktorluykx427
@viktorluykx427 Ай бұрын
Pretty good video, u deserve more subs!
@itsHaniiMusic
@itsHaniiMusic Ай бұрын
That's quite smart, and it will take probably around 1-2 months of irregular playing tho idk
@justmitaka4039
@justmitaka4039 Ай бұрын
W video idea please do more like those i love em.❤
@cj7318
@cj7318 Ай бұрын
Molly self when bot tony appears
@olovholmstrom7593
@olovholmstrom7593 29 күн бұрын
good one haix. you are the first content creator that when sponsored by a cs gambling/case opening site says that you have to be 18+ to play on it. Good!
@HaiX
@HaiX 29 күн бұрын
I am not ? I am pretty sure Neok, Furious , Sparklez and others are doing exactly the same thing?
@bamsefar8464
@bamsefar8464 Ай бұрын
15:50 . What did he say again? 😂
@beanboppinbeatch219
@beanboppinbeatch219 Ай бұрын
Bro the happy merchant meme when you said "money" 😂😂😂
@SomeoneCalledAdrian
@SomeoneCalledAdrian Ай бұрын
so all you get is cooldown… this is both better and worse than i expected: they CAN detect (extremely)blatant cheaters but their punishment for it is nothing
@IWatchSecks
@IWatchSecks Ай бұрын
It turns into a ban later
@danilo6887
@danilo6887 Ай бұрын
can you sell items on cooldown
@AnonymousUser66649
@AnonymousUser66649 Ай бұрын
​@@IWatchSecks It doesn't.
@IWatchSecks
@IWatchSecks Ай бұрын
@@AnonymousUser66649 What makes you think that?
@apiniti
@apiniti Ай бұрын
@@IWatchSecks They get repeat 3 day vac live cooldowns. That's it. And red trust factor. The HVH guy in the video confirmed this.
@Risiuu
@Risiuu Ай бұрын
Well made video Haix, keep making vids bro
@mrghost2168
@mrghost2168 Ай бұрын
I love you haix hope you get your twitch back soon
@Dayterix1
@Dayterix1 Ай бұрын
Such a good video watched it all already 💪
@RaeignFPS
@RaeignFPS 28 күн бұрын
I haven't even clicked play yet but I can guarantee they won't ban even when people full spin they only get a temporary cooldown occasionally. Valve Allow Cheats is impenetrable.
@Siggeeeeee
@Siggeeeeee Ай бұрын
bro you should have censored 15:50, I am Swedish so I understand completely what he said😭
@jannejot9026
@jannejot9026 Ай бұрын
Meaning?
@cbcml42
@cbcml42 Ай бұрын
Oh noo he said bad word im so offended rn i think im gonna cry HE NEEDS TO GET CANCELLED NOW CALL HIS BOSS AND GET HIM FIRED BECAUSE I CANT HANDLE BAD WORDS!!!
@Siggeeeeee
@Siggeeeeee Ай бұрын
@@cbcml42 bro I just meant that he should have censored it out so his video wont get taken down
@erkish2878
@erkish2878 Ай бұрын
åh herre gud ja, blev chockad när jag hörde det😭😭
@DeprivedofZZZ
@DeprivedofZZZ Ай бұрын
@@cbcml42it’s not that it’s a bad word, it’s the meaning behind it boZo.
@peterenis5334
@peterenis5334 20 күн бұрын
I actually didnt know that I thought its gonna be a vac ban. Being a 20h cooldown is hilarious and just confirms that valve is trolling us lol
@killerbiller666
@killerbiller666 Ай бұрын
Depends what the cheater uses, as long as its not Aimware they wont get banned xD Incase you would like to know and dont know yet, the features that trigger VAC Live: Doubletap, Antiaim ( unless the user is on skeet otherwise known as gamesense ), 180 FOV, Subtick Autostrafe ( it makes you be faster ) and lastly using rapid firing weapons such as Ak47 and shooting through walls with them Btw, it doesnt matter if you try to blur the UI, everyone knows its NeverLose. Also he has a feature called “hurt logs” which shows him how much he hit the enemy, where he hit them and for how much. The reason why its important is, it literally shows the cheat logo.
@JordanManfrey
@JordanManfrey 4 күн бұрын
joined a casual game, first person I encountered was laser locked on my face through a smoke cloud around a corner and prefired me. 10/10 vac the best
@represent36
@represent36 Ай бұрын
Hello, HaiX. Bye HaiX.
@sjanakakwka1288
@sjanakakwka1288 Ай бұрын
Haix, around 10 bullets, if you jump with scout - scoped, you can hit like 16 kills
@arandonpersonxd
@arandonpersonxd Ай бұрын
9:44 dammm.. you could have died from fall damage maybe idk
@tour1st736
@tour1st736 Ай бұрын
That would mean killing themselves and then you get kicked and get a ban I think Edit: the first ban is like 30 or 15 minutes so would have not mattered really so yes.
@Ismael_xdd
@Ismael_xdd Ай бұрын
molly
@Derglesnaf
@Derglesnaf 24 күн бұрын
Yep, played against a three stack of spinbot wall hackers a months ago and they’ve been playing DAILY since then and they still aren’t banned.
@xwycsgo
@xwycsgo Ай бұрын
It will probably take years cuz valve
@devan8425
@devan8425 2 күн бұрын
Accounts that get cooldown will almost certainly get overwatch(game) ban. Party members who are legit will not but will likely have their ranks decreased/removed and trust factor lowered.
@SayoSayoun1
@SayoSayoun1 Ай бұрын
i hate cheaters
@0dxYr
@0dxYr Ай бұрын
same, can't even find a normal premier game anymore but "wE wOnT aDd A kErNeL aNtI-cHeAt"
@danjacksonguitar3701
@danjacksonguitar3701 Ай бұрын
Same it's fucking unplayable
@HandsomeMadMax
@HandsomeMadMax Ай бұрын
Who doesnt? Even some of the cheaters hate themselves, because they know they will never be good at the game and still ruin it for everyone else.
@rage_bot_mc
@rage_bot_mc 13 күн бұрын
And i hwte leguts
@SayoSayoun1
@SayoSayoun1 13 күн бұрын
@rage_bot_mc damn cool pfp
@somethingsomethingcrotasen1643
@somethingsomethingcrotasen1643 Ай бұрын
It's hilarious to me the fact that nospread exists in CS2, since it was literally fixed in CSGO for like a year or 2
@henkearn1132
@henkearn1132 Ай бұрын
When cs2 was released, I reached maybe 18k elo or something and there were cheaters every other game basically. So I started playing faceit instead for a while. Over this summer I didn't play at all, but I picked it up again in september. I reached around 18k elo once again but during my climbing I didn't encounter a cheater even once (I think). I'm 23k now, and there are cheaters in many of my games again. But it's very rarely blatant. You just kind of suspect it most of the time, and more often than rarely when you watch the demos your suspicions are correct. But as I said it's not blatant. A lot of the cheaters also have some pretty sick skins on their accounts but they still feel confident enough that VAC won't detect their cheating. And I mean they never get proven wrong. Me and my friends are grinding towards 25k but it's hard when people use soft aim and wallhacks because they can't handle the fact that they suck without it. It's so sad that some people are so insecure and weak-minded.
@checkthis1469
@checkthis1469 Ай бұрын
Exactly! Expensive skins are not proof for playing clean
@apiniti
@apiniti Ай бұрын
@checkthis1469 I've seen guys semi-raging with skins. Their friend who used a throw-away account who went full rage got banned. But these semi-raging kids with skins don't get banned
@lordwarblade
@lordwarblade Ай бұрын
interesting "Meh you devil's n-word" when you where playing with that one swedish dude towards the end xD
@m0m3nt45
@m0m3nt45 Ай бұрын
i think its important to show legit players what cheaters are working with
@danjacksonguitar3701
@danjacksonguitar3701 Ай бұрын
We've known for long time that's why we get so mad at Valve that they allow these pathetic toxic assholes in game.
@Dahita
@Dahita 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for doing this. So many folks cheating on the game, ruins it.
@kipchickensout
@kipchickensout Ай бұрын
"no innocent people will be hurt" well i find cheating opps followed by a meaningless free win for me way worse than getting klapped...
@lukepollard4614
@lukepollard4614 7 күн бұрын
You know what, I appreciate this video more than I hate it, I feel this video does more to expose how broken VAC is than it does to harm the playing community. On that note, Valve sucks
@ressurection98
@ressurection98 Ай бұрын
0:17 he uses tenge?
@diehardrudie
@diehardrudie Ай бұрын
Yeah
@diehardrudie
@diehardrudie Ай бұрын
Prime costed him 7850tenge for the each one
@ressurection98
@ressurection98 Ай бұрын
@@diehardrudie yeah bro im from kazakhstan
@aidancanthang
@aidancanthang Ай бұрын
You’d figure that Valve would review the games of anyone that gets flagged and receives a cooldown. Guess not.
@JusticeFlybreaker
@JusticeFlybreaker Ай бұрын
5 views in 54 seconds bro fell off
@Luigi_Pizza
@Luigi_Pizza Ай бұрын
5 years without a father, you are now fatherless
@Entirering
@Entirering Күн бұрын
And my acc got banned after someone hacked it. After 2 days i got it back and than my acc was vac banned.💔 10plus acc btw😢 this made me so sad
@Gwotchya_
@Gwotchya_ Ай бұрын
"Nah man he's just good" The person he's talking about:
@mat5265
@mat5265 24 күн бұрын
After watching this, the question is: why am I still playing... The same test on faceit servers would be interesting !
@Evitrea
@Evitrea Ай бұрын
It took me too long to realize his skin only exists in his view
@Balja69
@Balja69 Ай бұрын
Valve be like: Aaw They are kind giving free win every match. Let’s not ban
@sxlminen1195
@sxlminen1195 Ай бұрын
Still not banned yikes but hey good thing that they added a new inspect for the ak😂
@NupasCiocolikw
@NupasCiocolikw Ай бұрын
AI anticheat working pretty well i'd say! Valve's approach to not implement a kernel anticheat may be good for everyone's security and privacy, but the game really suffers. Truth is solutions to this problem have to sacrifice the interests of a portion of the playerbase: as Haix said in the video, not everyone will be happy with it. An interesting solution could be allowing only one account per PC, so that those who get banned (assuming they actually do, although what the video shows is not encouraging) will have to buy a new device; at least it will put a bit of pressure on cheaters, since if they do get banned in the end they'll lose more than the 300th account they bought in 60 seconds from a website
@Poolboy916TV
@Poolboy916TV Ай бұрын
I like the texture package that makes the map dark and cloudy lol
@czajniknt8331
@czajniknt8331 21 күн бұрын
Legend says that they are still trying to get banned to this day
@tobisfotoalbum8278
@tobisfotoalbum8278 16 күн бұрын
its hard to reverse engeneer cheats nowadays as well. They have clients who obfuscate and encrypt it like normal games as well. So its not that easy to just Extrakt the code
@ByeBaybe
@ByeBaybe 19 күн бұрын
last night was the final time i played this game. it's destroyed and there is no coming back.
@LunarPriestessYT
@LunarPriestessYT 28 күн бұрын
I don't understand why valve doesn't do anything
@Filllips
@Filllips Ай бұрын
Mostly depends on the cheat if u get vac or not. U can use features like double tap, no spread and anti aim on expensive or private cheat and not get banned but u can just turn on aimbot on cheap or free cheat and get insta banned
@vanitoryisboring
@vanitoryisboring Ай бұрын
11:46 MY JAW DROPPED TO THE FUCKING FLOOR. THAT IS HOW VAC WORKS?????????????? ARE U KIDDING ME???????? this game is cooked af
@aleksi789
@aleksi789 Ай бұрын
thats just vac live, vac does permanently ban you but the cheat developers can easily bypass it
@xerogaming2127
@xerogaming2127 Ай бұрын
I think it works on trust factors therefore , you are accounte are tagged as suspects under their account graphs but not enough supporting evidence since there shall be more number of reports from different users altogether in high frequency in a short time . This is why most probably your accounts aren't banned
@NameisMattt
@NameisMattt Ай бұрын
I am showing my community this. We were just talking about these cheaters we keep running into and how the anti cheat is not good at detecting them.
@l.3626
@l.3626 Ай бұрын
The wiggle that killed Tarkov
@Myka_LT
@Myka_LT Ай бұрын
Pure Gold. I'd like More of that
@blo1286
@blo1286 Ай бұрын
We don’t talk about what the Swedish guy said in the end 🤭😳
@kingapieninska5809
@kingapieninska5809 8 күн бұрын
Since new CS, I had one situation where the match stopped because of VAC intervention and it was mostly due to the fact that I played with some big streamer and he complained live about the other team. I mean he wasn't really wrong but dude 😅
@Asdf-wf6en
@Asdf-wf6en Ай бұрын
AI anti cheats seem like the logical evolution. They can be non intrusive while being able to catch hardware cheats which kernel level anti cheats can’t detect.
@Legion12Centurion
@Legion12Centurion Ай бұрын
Thats the idea of many new developments in this area. I think even VAC uses AI to some extent. However it is not perfect...
@Bayyyro
@Bayyyro Ай бұрын
i remember playing csgo during zoom classes and facing cheaters left and right in the casual modes, youd think if they FIXED TF2 theyd figure out cs, but i guess not
@jonatankadar2201
@jonatankadar2201 19 күн бұрын
I used wh for a day and was immediately banned, but I didn't do it in a conspicuous way, we were just fooling around with my friends
@x1bullet007
@x1bullet007 Ай бұрын
Recently also just facing a bunch of hackers. Really thinking of going over to a different game. This is just getting worse by the day. No point in becoming good in the game when you facing hackers you will lose.
@xRealUzz
@xRealUzz Ай бұрын
unless you go to valorant all multiplayer games are doomed.. cod apex pubg as soon as you hit high ranks its doomed
@knuuj
@knuuj Ай бұрын
cool that his knife was not censored and it shows link to his channel lmao
@Oboar
@Oboar Ай бұрын
You should try 3 new accounts with different levels of cheats like (Maximum rage/an in-between & being more sneaky with cheats) and go to indian servers if you are worried about impacting players
@existgotit
@existgotit Ай бұрын
crazy that u dont even blur out when the swedish guy says hard R when u guys play against the cheaters, good job!
@KidXay
@KidXay Ай бұрын
The Lalo meme got me dead 😂😭
@ImNotFlutters
@ImNotFlutters 29 күн бұрын
I wish higher fov was a default feature but all the 4:3 people would get angry because they think 4:3 will make them good.
@Typ3_alpha
@Typ3_alpha Ай бұрын
I think he never getting banned and the pinned comment just proved it to me
@MayQOff
@MayQOff Ай бұрын
I think it will take atleast 257.7621 games before u get banned
@Kimmern-r7
@Kimmern-r7 Ай бұрын
The swedish guy on the end, ifkyk Somethings you shouldnt say in a vid😂
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