How long do Electric Car batteries last? Are we been SCAMMED?

This video is a response to many comments I have received over the last year from EV owners or former EV owners about their experience with electric cars, batteries and general EV ownership.
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[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

When I sold Craftsman tools the battery for a power tool often was more expensive than the tool itself. Cars are the most wasteful ridiculous unsafe dangerous means of transportation ever invented. England was so much better off when Transportation consisted of a British motorcycle and a sidecar. You can build and run a medium-sized motorcycle for 50,000 plus miles just on the energy required to build a compact car. A classic motorcycle that you keep on the road for 40 years with the proper maintenance is a lot more greener than buying an electric car and generating all those electric battery waste that have to be disposed of. My hats off to you Uncle stew for all you do and the way you keep us informed.

[@michaelmclarney1994]

My thoughts entirely, Frank. Such motorcycles are not a problem but a viable solution to pollution and congestion on our roads but are overlooked by the government and MSM as they don't fit their agenda!

[@Cupat1]

What a stupid statement, cars a wasteful etc, and just how are disabled people supposed to get about. How are tradesmen, delivery drivers etc etc supposed to carry their goods to you, honest to god what stupid thing to say 🙄

[@davidryan4454]

This is a very informative piece Stu. Gives me a lot of ammo when dealing with EV advocates. Thank you 👍 FYI, I'm a Civil Engineer who works to build facilities on RAF bases for the UK Govt. They have released a Safety Directive that all EV charging points must be 25m away from sleeping accommodation. Likely due to the amount of spontaneous combustions that EV's are experiencing....

[@adrianlw2750]

25m. Interesting. I use LiPo batteries for aero-modelling applications. Charging instructions clearly state to not leave batteries unattended whilst charging.

[@dickiedum]

I have an electric bicycle which has a 1000 watts of battery power and these are charged up in my garage and away from the house as they get pretty warm.

[@daviddanielstephenson2833]

@@adrianlw2750 I know someone who lost his house and entire belongings because of his RC Lipo batteries.

[@davidparker7920]

There seems to be this myth around the safety of EV batteries which is being perpetuated by the deep pockets of the oil industry. EV batteries may share the chemistries of the batteries in your phone or laptop but beyond that the similarities end. As I write this my car is plugged in doing its weekly overnight charge to 80% and I have no worries at all that it may burst into flames...none, zero. The ‘spontaneous combustion’ events are so rare they hardly register on the stats, but if you want the data you should know that fossil fuel cars are 11 times more likely to burst into flames than an EV. So how many times have you heard of phones and laptops bursting into flames?....That did happen occasionally back in the early days of LiOn batteries but you never hear of it now...and you won’t hear of EV fires any more soon as LFP chemistries take over from NMC (like the battery in my Kia e-NIro). As for this video...what a load of nonsense. The answer to ‘How long do EV batteries last?’....is ‘A lot longer than an ICE engine and most EV batteries will out-live the car they are in'

[@daviddanielstephenson2833]

@@davidparker7920 The myth that green energy will be enough to power an EV Grid is patently ridiculous, when the wind don't blow and night time comes your up creek without any power. The percentage of ICE to EV is not yet equivalent so using the fire risk MO is also out of all compass, shame on you for trying to use that avenue and cold as ICE argument. What do you think is charging you car right now David, yes good old fossile fuels, lets wait and see if you can still charge it when all the power stations are non extant, Lol.

[@Pynaegan]

Speaking as a "Fixed route operator" of a metropolitan area, I can attest to the problems associated with EV in public transportation. For over two decades I have driven the city bus in Austin TX and it would seem that the Capitol Metropolitan Transportation Authority (CMTA)are tripping over themselves to get EV buses into service. Unfortunately, it hasn't been particularly "successful". Texas summers are long and *HOT* and the people of Austin ain't trying to ride a bus with no air conditioning. As you stated earlier, the bus can't remain on route for an eight hour shift, let alone be on the street for twenty hours as can a "diesel pusher". (We typically leave the yard and are relieved in route by another driver after eight to ten hours of driving) An EV can't pull *that* off even if the AC is left alone. I left the city of Austin a few months ago (cost of living and the uprising of violence)and have since moved to a significantly smaller town with a proportionately smaller public transportation system where the question of EV isn't even being considered. (Thank goodness for that!) In the beginning, I was a full blown fan of Elon Musk and the promise of Tesla right up to a few years ago when a hurricane was approaching the gulf coast. As I recall, Elon came on television and proclaimed that he was going to throw some switch that would send out a signal to all his cars to extend the range of his cars in order to help people get out of the path of the oncoming storm. It was at that precise moment that I fell out of love with Tesla and consequently EV in general for if "they" could "extend the range of your vehicle remotely" then "they" can *TURN OFF YOUR VEHICLE* just as easily. Learning about slave labor being used to "make the world a better place" only added to my disillusionment. Thanks for another excellent video Uncle Stu and congratulations on your award!

[@welshtexas1]

Recently read a comment that every single vehicle being used in the rescue or aid relief after hurricane Ian is either gasoline or diesel, not a single EV to be seen.

[@bigglesace1626]

Many people will have missed a gov transport minister's statement last year, when speaking at an industry event - 'Personal transport is SO last century'. So, there you have it. There won't be a need for masses of new charging points, or increased generating capacity, or loads of new mines for rare minerals. EVs will be for the elite, everyone else will be cycling, walking or on public transport - if there is any, lol. As for leasing, well, remember we'll own nowt and be happy, so that's perfect.

[@stuartfillingham]

I made a video on that subject!

[@Pynaegan]

"You will own nothing and be happy."

[@GhostOfKiev2023]

💯% If the government can sanction/ban ice vehicles, they can ration electrics.

[@GT380man]

@@Pynaegan”Eat ze bugs!”❤

[@willisbcteoh9840]

Congratulations Stu on the well deserved award. Your fight against tyranny on motorcyclists is legendary. I am a no, never EV kind of bloke. I cherish my freedom too much. Once again, congratulations and Thank you.

[@inzidenziaschulz7972]

Green energy is scam.

[@dickiedum]

Congratulations on the award, well deserved. I remember talking to the wife about battery life and how expensive they are to replace. If you want an EV you are better off leasing one. It is a flawed technology especially now it costs as much to charge one up as it does to fill up a petrol car. To get the raw materials is very expensive and it does create terrible working conditions for people but people ignore this as it is happening a long way away from our country.

[@stevedix2973]

Well done on the award , I attended a course on EV`s some 12 years ago now , when I worked for a certain motoring organisation , even then the course providers said EV is just a stop gap , not the answer , the battery life/charging trap was also part of that course , so this is something I`ve been aware of since that point . Moving forward I ended up working for a company who used an EV van as our main daily run about , stated 150 mile range ect , best range according to the vehicle charge/range on the dash rarely said more than 89 miles , in reality if we took it to the nearest dealer for service it wouldn`t make it there and back without being charged , round trip of 70 miles at that time , most on motorways and if held at 70mph you could literally see the charge meter drop . As you say it`s all smoke and mirrors , followed by the powers that be wishing to please the Greta`s of this world , easiest way of dropping carbon emissions , stop doing the school run in your car , kids are able to walk , they have legs . All those type of trips account for massive usage on the road , I know I work in transport an the difference between school days and holiday traffic in the morning is huge . I`d say at a guess nearly 30% quieter on the road in school break times !

[@nathanhenry4214]

Thank you for another great video. I really appreciate you putting the truth about EV and the nightmare they are most likely to be.

[@stuartfillingham]

Thank You Nathan!

[@richaddulieu1967]

I'm really glad to see your channel still up and running still, 🏃‍♂️ and giving people the truth about what is happening with the moter industry thanks 😊 👍🏻

[@mick998r]

Absolutely love you videos and really appreciate your input and sound advice given. I personally will give it at least a decade before even thinking about a battery powered vehicle. And then I'm hoping that I can have my present car converted. But we'll see. Cheers Stuart 👍

[@michaelmclarney1994]

Thanks for this brilliant upload and your efforts Stu, and congrats on the MAG award, very much deserved 👍

[@harrypalmer7169]

Good to see your hard work getting the recognition it deserves. Well done Sir.

[@jonoxford6447]

Congratulations on the media award Stu, well deserved and today's video is another good example of your efforts to keep the motorcycling community well informed about relevant issues. Lots of good information today. The mining of lithium should be a major concern for all governments and to date I have not heard anything about the disposal of battery systems once they are no longer serviceable. I think this will prove to be a very serious problem in the future, an unintended consequence of our headlong rush to EVs.

[@julianday]

I still run my 1967 Morris minor 4 door saloon , great little car which is cheap and easy to maintain. Can’t see an electric 55 year old car somehow.

[@alancrane4693]

My god I remember those

[@karlwillis5763]

Totally agree, I was taken in by all the EV hype last year. I bought a new MG EV last October, I’ve just traded it in for another petrol car. Everything you have said is correct, and I’ve no plans to ever go back to an EV. By the time they are mainstream, I’ll either be dead or too old to drive. Unless you want hassle on any journey over 100 miles avoid them at all costs.

[@mountainhigh7071]

Why do I see y tube technology Tesla has 1000 mile range batteries. And super charged around the corner. is.that fake news

[@rhiantaylor3446]

The first volume-sold EV I know about is the Nissan Leaf which started life in the UK market in 2011 therefore we are only now starting to see batteries over 10 years old. In another 10 years we will get a much better understanding of the rate of deterioration of various EV makes/batteries. I would personally consider an EV at the right price, as a second vehicle used for journeys of 15 miles or less (30 miles round trip). Looking on Autotrader however, I see people typically asking over £5k for these "unsaleable" cars and I can buy a much younger/better ICE car for that money.

[@manuelhaug4053]

Thank you for your research Stu. If someone believes the whole EV fairytale they can buy one. I have no problem with that. But forcing everybody onto these appliances is the wrong way.

[@simonmitchell34]

Problem with that. "Have you been sold an electric car under false pretences? If so phone us to get your compensation!". And guess who'll be paying for that? Correct, the sensible people who didn't fall for it.

[@DJPTEXAS]

Exactly.......

[@whitesapphire5865]

I can happily say that my oldest Volvo is 23 years old, and has covered around 270'000 miles. The funny thing is, when I recharge the fuel tank with petrol, I stills get the same number of miles per fill as I got when I first bought it, and, I can fill it in a rapid charger, about two to three minutes to put 450 miles in the tank, and it doesn't damage the capacity. It has another nice feature too, it doesn't self discharge petrol all the time it's standing doing nothing, how about that?! I can also go the extra distance without having to worry about keeping 20% of the charge in the tank at all times, and it doesn't refuse to take a charge if I let it stand for a few weeks or months. My newest Volvo is also 23 years old, but only 93'000 miles in the clock, so still only a chick. The important thing is, they're both over twenty years old and still performing as good as new. If takes an EV twenty years to break even, then there's little point in me buying one anyway - I'm not likely to be around in twenty years time! I think my next car could be a diesel!

[@johnDukemaster]

Agree with you all the way. EV with batteries is not a solution. In fact, we don't need a solution yet. According to IPCC, which people have a tendency to regard as truthfull, the temperature is not rising. And have not done so for the last 7 years. The CO2 is at the same level as in 2012. We have oil and coal (if used at the same level as today) for the next 2-300 years. All accordingly to IPCC. No need to rush. We have time to think and do it right. Thank you mr Fillingham!

[@daintree2455]

Well said mate agree absolutely. EVs might currently be considered as very expensive external combustion (hopefully Australian coal) electric vehicles and battery tec is arguably inadequate at this point. But to virtue signal and bask in the Greta glow is so intoxicating.

[@timeast6412]

Absolutely true,CO2 causing climate change is essentially a psy-op being played out on the population.Even my own family shout at me for quoting the facts.

[@melfzs]

Morning Uncle Stuart, I'm reading this from a cottage in Scotland that we've rented for a week, we're using my wife's twenty year old Toyota Yaris that's done 113,000 miles so far , and so far we've done 750 miles this trip and have got more touring about to do , it takes me a couple of minutes to pull in and fill the tank and we're good for three or four hundred miles easily, we paid eleven hundred quid for it three years ago and it's still going well , so there's not a chance on earth I'd ever be buying an EV at the prices they command, and suffering range anxiety out in the middle of the Highlands on a tour. Great and informative video, Cheers .

[@carlarthur4442]

This should knock the E V market for six , the initial price / cost to buy an E V and then only get eight years max , is totally unexceptable.

[@Angus-22]

I have been gently nudging everyone around me for years. Treated as if insane. You have provided a neat little video reiterateing everything. Keep The Faith.

[@tablet647]

A typical electric car battery has: 25 pounds of lithium 60 pounds of nickel 44 pounds of manganese 30 pounds cobalt 200 pounds of copper 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic , you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, 25,000 pounds of ore for copper Digging up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust

[@mrmando69]

Well done Stuart, I done the same research earlier in the year. We need to terminate the W(E)F. End of

[@ianseddon9347]

Glad to here of your award, I rejoined MaAG after a few years absence after watching your Vlog about anti-tamper etc, I confess I’d let my eye drift from the ball and had though most of that stuff had gone away some years ago, I guess that sort of complacency is what the Thought Police rely on- anyway glad to be back as a libertarian grumpy pensioner! Thanks for keeping us in our toes!

[@michaelarmstrong4099]

The full anti-tampering proposal from the government should be published by Christmas. Michael Armstrong MAG National Political Officer.

[@vick8914]

Thanks it's about time more people get to know what's involved with EV's

[@christopherwhite5210]

Hi Stu. Congratulations on the award and another informative video. Ironically given the subject matter the adverts made me laugh though. Five adverts over three breaks with two of them for fully electric cars! I'm not saying a word. Don't worry, I know that you don't pick the ads 😂

[@morrisminor56]

Yes, saw one for an electric Mini. Do I want one? erm....

[@christopherwhite5210]

@@morrisminor56 I think I'll pass thanks. I'm going to stick with internal combustion for as long as I can.

[@stephenlennox6491]

This is the best and most informative video on EVs I have seen to date. It answers most of the questions that I have and wanted to know. Well done Stu, brilliant video. Well worth sharing.

[@krishnamahatre8605]

The Salesmen may not, but, Uncle Stu did, thank you, for another great one.

[@Andy_ATB]

Well done Stu on your award - well deserved!! Can't say I've ever been tempted by an EV; far too many cons....

[@rjones6219]

That bus journey, reminds me of going to work in the 1960s, at 6am with sheets of ice lining the inside of the vehicle.

[@davidbgraham461]

Well deserved award , sir !! Governments lie! And, they know that they lie and, it does not bother them. Dear Uncle Stu, please do not ever give up ; we all need you and other like-minded folk. More power to your arm, sir !

[@stevewalker2047]

Thanks Stu. Good video. You mirrored my thoughts on EV’s. The way forward is with ICE’s but with different fuels. “Not Zero, Not Net Zero”

[@bentullett6068]

In motorsport they are using and developing synthetic fuels made from carbon capturing or by recycling gases from the alcohol industry in cars and so far no one has had issues and utilising this fuel lowers emissions and is fully recyclable.

[@paler1der136]

Those wind turbines at the beginning of the video are an eyesore for that beautiful countryside. Cheers for the content mate!

[@daveegan1372]

Morning Mr F. New subscriber here. Enjoying the videos 👍

[@keithralfs5190]

We need service stations where the batteries get changed automatically, speeds up the "stop-to-charge" times - Easy technologies with batteries changed from under the vehicle using a specific hoist or forklift - the batteries being loaded onto a vertical rotating belt, charging as it moves around - given that the battery is the most expensive component in an EVehical - just requires the manufacturers to cooperate and standardise the battery and mounting

[@alancrane4693]

Well informed video once again thanks 👍. We all know that the biggest pollutants are industry's, airline's, shipping. Bottom of the list vehicle owners with modern combustion engines. Take away people vehicles and it will make no difference to the pollutants.

[@kenh3344]

You are a well thought out man arnt you. I am well impressed with some of you videos. Like this one. The bike thrown under the bus. Yes you put in the research. You delivery of content. 1st class. And your narrator skill is good and clear. You do have good top quality information to share. So keep going. Dont let em grind you down.

[@diarmuidmoriarty3449]

I 100% agree with you and I've been telling people these facts all along. I do believe there is a place for EVs but they should never be shoved down our throats as the replacement for ICE vehicles.

[@philmorrow2446]

Great vid uncle Stu! I’m aware that if the many misdirections carried out to get us to go green, but what really rattled my cage is I won’t have a choice in the matter. Tyranny at its most blatant!!!😡 By the way, a mist splendiferous opening “eeeey ooop”. Wonderful vast tone there!!😎👍😂

[@alancrane4693]

New government in power tax on the poor money to the rich with no civil population election yep dictatorship Tyranny. Totally agree 👍

[@daintree2455]

Congrats on award. Increased EV uptake and associated anxiety creating issues, ie range anxiety and battery life anxiety, may extend the covid related sweet spot pharmaceutical companies are now experiencing with the accelerating prescription of anti-anxiety meds. Cynical I know. Well researched and informative vid Stu.

[@stephencox1955]

Hi Stuart, It wasn’t that long ago when the powers that be where diesel was the fuel of the future ! Now the dictators move the goal again…like not being able to alter or improve the motorcycle you want to buy is going to be illegal. The fact that choice is being denied us is wrong,we should be able to buy and run what we want not what we are told. Another great video again,and congratulations on your award.

[@isaachunt5799]

many of my local car dealers here in sweden wont give u a penny for for ev once over 5 years old lol. the warranty for the battery only covers failure. loosing capacity is wear and tear and NOT covered under the warranty.

[@christopherheggie1709]

Very interesting comment thanks. As an Aussie who often rides hundreds and occasionally thousands of km for a holiday I cannot see an immediate electric future for me. Perhaps hydrogen in time? I have recently been following a German motovlogger on his Zero ride about the UK and take his experience as being representative, and quite frankly I think the time has spent looking for a suitable charging point and then spending the charge time eating takeaway food would seriously put me off an ebike!

[@morrisminor56]

yes, I watched some of his vids as well.

[@alansawford6167]

Congrats on the award Stu, well deserved in my opinion. Just been reading the comments on this article & who’s put the cat amongst the pigeons now then! Enjoyed it & seems to sum a few articles I’ve read from various sources as well. Keep up the good work, by the way have you still got the Interceptor?

[@stuartfillingham]

yes, I have!

[@johnriley8713]

Always well thought-out and well-spoken...we need everyone to hear that EVs are not better, are not inevitable, and regardless, should never be mandated upon anyone. We're on a dangerous path here.

[@johnw2758]

Sorry for keep commenting on this but I have another observation. How will people in terraced houses go about charging their vehicles? Surely we won't have leads going across the pavement and as you know, no-one is entitled to the space outside their house, so, say a visitor to another house is parked there, do you have to knock to ask them to move? Sounds like a nightmare to me !

[@ianthompson6949]

Well done Stu' sounds like an honest unbiased video and very very clear!

[@johnw2758]

Our depot had an EV Refuse vehicle on demo, it turned up on the back of a trailer (pulled by a dirty diesel truck) because it didn't have the capacity to get 'up north'. Fair enough, I believe some vehicles are transported that way but the EV didn't have the capacity to last a full shift of 8 hours, and this was in the summer, so no heater or wipers running etc. It went back the next day........on the back of a trailer............

[@kevinbartram5302]

Thank you for pointing out the ethical position. In your time constraint this is simply scratching the surface.

[@kennethgianetti4590]

This video should be required viewing for all those who are pushing not just EVs but an over dependence on grid destabilizing renewables. Great job.

[@dukiemoto8676]

I’m too poor to afford an EV that’s only good for the 7 years or so of its life, and all the while keeping me imprisoned in a city with constant anxiety for the need of an hour nursing from one of the grids few electric teats.

[@markrigg7038]

I reckon it's a push to get people to lease their cars, going hand in had with the WEF "you will own nothing and be happy" How about a catch up video on how the interceptor is doing, you have had her a good while now ?

[@stuartfillingham]

I agree!

[@alancrane4693]

Under this current government more like you own nothing and be miserable.

[@FlyingFun.]

@@alancrane4693 own nothing and be dead if you are old , pensions just got wiped out. We can't afford heating and if we get cold we get ill and need hospital where we get even more ill.. Why not just take a note from Logan's run and kill everyone off who can no longer work? Maybe just give us really fast bikes to ride around a race track till we kill ourselves , at least that would be a fun way to go lmfao.

[@keithwilton5654]

I learnt also that on some batteries if you drain them completely you cannot recharge them and have to have new batteries. The recovery people can I am also told can access the battery to gain enough energy to load it onto a recovery truck, that’s all. I have been on courses and sales days for EV’s, so I cannot confirm this to be read anywhere , but an interesting thought and would need confirming.

[@Organic.Mechanic]

Thanks for the education! Really expanded my views.

Come to Norway. 79% of all new car sale is EV now (2022). My Nissan Leaf 2016 135' KM is still as good as new aprox 90% of new battery range. Waiting for my new Tesla M3 -and Classic 350(will buy next year)

[@johnalleman1134]

Just the rising price of electricity alone has surely killed any slim financial advantages an EV had in terms of running costs for those in an urban environment using their vehicle to commute? The whole thing sounds like a lose-lose situation in every aspect! Thanks Stuart for pointing out some of the grey (or more like “smoke covered”) aspects of EV ownership. I’ve never fancied one and can’t honestly ever see me ditching internal combustion for electricity. I don’t need the complication and aggro in my life!

[@adrianlw2750]

Good content👍 As you say, leasing may make sense. This shifts the risk for the new buyer and makes the EV effectively a “disposable” that you never have to stump up to own. Some cells in the battery pack may fail before others - there is potential therefore to have the defective cells replaced rather than the whole battery pack. Cost savings possible. PS - my dpf-equipped diesel at nearly 80,000 miles is just run in nicely and gives me a 600 hassle-free mile range on a tank. Just a pity it is considered such a “bad thing” from noxious (unseen) exhaust pollutants. PPS - I now see EV’s beginning to populate 80 mph life in lane 3 on motorways. Times change!

[@daviddanielstephenson2833]

The lease MO is already being practiced, in some countries they have scooters that have a charging bank and or system where you simply swipe your card into the battery bank and swap your flat battery for a fesh one. Car owners today get a warrantly for a new ev battery, but thereafter they are on their own, why do the car makers not do this for their battery as well, because they know it will wipe out any profits they made earlier, if manufacturers want to promote their products then why not least the battery, as well as a car.

[@roadracermark7946]

You'll own nothing and be happy is the buzz quote from the powers of WEF spokesman klaus Schwab. Makes you think that it's all planned eh.

[@nomdeplume798]

With regards to emissions during manufacture, according to Harry Metcalf on his channel "Harry's Garage" VW have stated that building an electric vehicle creates emissions 50% higher than the equivalent ICE. Great, informative video thanks Stu.

[@Bob-oo7sm]

Good video as always.people also forget the weight of these cars.extra weight wear the road surface out quicker .also it's been reported if you have a check down a normal recovery truck can't lift it as it would be over weight so they have to employ another truck what can legally carry the extra weight.

[@marjoriegraham1003]

They lie and, they ,now that they lie! Thanks again Uncle Stu. David B Graham.

[@williamkennedy5492]

We are being conned into buying EVs , its a dead end technology , also a very interesting point about Part Ex, thank you. AND my wife has now banned my from riding my Kawasaki Cruiser telling me its too dangerous, wonder why ? Best regards Sisaket Thailand.

[@christopherwhite5210]

Time for a new wife mate? 🤣

[@KRAM-zb2vc]

Brilliant video as always Stuart and congrats on the award 👍🏻, you might take a look at “The big EV lie” by the car guys on KZbin, very informative about these EV’s. 😮, and btw the government is already hiding coal at DRAX.

[@frankysworld]

Good one, Stu. There is one more thing worth considering as well from an "eco" point of view. What happens to those batteries when they reached end of life? Just to mention one study; Ambrose, Hanjiro and Jimmy O’Dea. 2021. Electric Vehicle Batteries: Addressing Questions about Critical Materials and Recycling. Cambridge, MA (there are quite a few more) There are a good few problems with that and the sheer cost of recycling as LIB technologies used for EVs do not all contain cobalt (which would increase the cost gain in recycling), the question of the economic model for recycling them remains unresolved, and there is still no real industrial sector for recycling these batteries. I'm sure that there are promises that there will be when the time comes, but the current model for second life for energy storage will see them shipped off to third world countries - who are left to deal with the problem in as much the same way we love to ship our recyclable waste to them already where they end up on a landfill, but hey - it will be their carbon/toxic problem, so we would not need to include that in our own spreadsheet...

[@stuartfillingham]

My readin on the subject matches your comment. there's no real infrastructure for recycling at the moment. there is no incentive as there is no real profit in recycling them.

[@mickmockett9031]

Totally agree with all your comments stu. It would be interesting to see how much the government are prepared to invest time and energy into the development of hydrogen vehicles as this would totally upset the applecart if they did.its food for thought.

[@alancrane4693]

Nothing is the answer to that under Truss government.

[@nigelford936]

Brilliant video at last i think some people are being to see the failing of evs or on road golf carts as I like to call them if this is progress god help us i personally think its to get a lot of drivers off the road i could go on but keep up telling people the truth and no way am I getting rid of my new petrol car

[@RonConsumer]

Excellent video Stu... I'll never get an EV until they 1) Improve the Battery because as most know you can only charge Lithium Ion batteries only a limited amount of times until it drops to 80%. 2) The information is NOT on ALLDATA where all ICE vehicles are available to diagnose and repair. Most like Tesla... you are forced to take it to their garages and pay up the nose or lose your car for months to wait for parts. 3) I've yet to see an EV do over 100K miles without having to replace the battery or have a degradation of the battery. 4) They still don't have an infrastructure set up to handle the demand of EV's. 5) Petroleum products are used in many products from fuel, to plastics, and cosmetics. So I will never give up my Toyota's which have well over 200K with only replacing battery, tires, and brakes during its lifetime and all the data I need is available to make any repairs.

[@jackpoell1673]

Thanks for your research and summary of the EV aspects.

[@anthonyprice5596]

A good friend of mine who is far better off and an idealistic chap, bought a Tesla Plaid now if you know your Teslas it's the quick one 0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds or something like that, he bought it new, I think it was in the region of 100k to buy. Anyway to cut a long story short, the Plaid model because of its performance has a shorter life if you use it to its full potential too often, being as he'd taken it to Santa Pod ran it too its limits often used it on a fast charger( it was all recorded on the onboard computer) him being an ex fighter pilot now a commercial pilot he liked the speed, anyway to cut a long story short, his battery failed, and Tesla weren't happy about fixing the cars issues, batter failier, transmission issues ect, they wouldn't replace the battery for free, or fix the other issues, even though the car was only 28 months old, so he was hit with a 34k repair bill!! Or his 65k Tesla was worthless. So after hearing his woes that finished electric vehicles for me....for good. And with the price of electricity as it is, electric cars are no cheaper to run and soon they'll be taxed by the mile, so they arn't good for the environment from their inception, they have a very limited life, poor range co2 is created to create electricity to power them, where is the sence? Oh yes its a good idea from people who fly in private jets, own super yachts, live in mansions have numerous staff. The WEF.

[@bwoo6223]

I have a BMW C Evolution I always use a trickle charger, public chargers expensive, I got, not for my carbon foot print (invented by BP) but something for local and for the next eight years I have had for two years I can't think of anything cheaper to run I only do one thousand a year on it. For work I use a twelve year old diesel-powered car, value not a lot, if I was going to spend twenty K on a vehicle it would be red with two wheels and Italian. When we have millions of tons of coal under out feet but no way to use it? Thorium is the way forward instead of Uranium. always enjoy this channel

[@andrekesarisingh2563]

Great points another issue is if you have a crash and the battery is damaged, what then?

[@theSTUNTHAMSTER]

insurance?

[@andrekesarisingh2563]

@@theSTUNTHAMSTER yes possibly then increased premiums..?

[@kevinbartram5302]

Here's one for you. I was speaking to a man who designed from the ground up the very commercial vehicle he was demonstrating with the intention of selling it to the organisation I work for. I asked as a general question, "are E.V's environmentally friendly" his answer was a resounding no It is about ticking government boxes.

[@kevinbartram5302]

My present car is 23 years old and running on most of what it left the factory with save wear and tear. It has clocked just over 100'000 miles. It is a long way away from falling to bits in any respect. I have had many like it.

[@stringandreed]

As always thank you for the most information filled video's on the web. Need I not forget to say congrats on your award.

[@hrothgarpage]

I'd have more respect for your opinions on EVs if you had been using one for any length of time. I bought a plug in hybrid in 2014 and that convinced me to go full EV sooner rather than later and I've owned and used an EV now for over 3 years. In fact my wife and I now both have one and we don't have an ICE car at all. Believe me or not I don't recognise any of the problems you have listed, as negatives of owning and using EVs and I've done many long journeys and always charged to 100%. Accross the two cars we have a combined mileage of over 30,000 miles in the last 12 months, so it isn't because I just use a car as a run-about. In fuel alone my savings over the last 12 months have been in excess of £3,500 (I've not updated my calculations since the recent changes to fuel costs). Oh, and there is no cobalt in my newest car's battery, but every gallon of petrol you put in your car was refined using guess what? Anyway I enjoy your videos on motorcycling; I used to own a Triumph Speed Twin but sadly parted with it earlier this year. Congratulations on your award.

[@richardyardley5127]

Another great and realistic video on this subject Stu. Thank you. Personally I think electric vehicles have about as much character and soul as a synthetic carbohydrate factory. Fortunately, my age (56), means I'll never have to use one of the darn things :-)

[@stuartfillingham]

Thanks Richard!

[@TedSwerve]

Well all this hate over EVs is nonsense. My old milkman used one for years. Never complained. All we need to do is drive at two miles an hour and carry milk crates. Sorted!

[@creamygoodness1558]

Very thought provoking, Stuart. Referencing Volvo, as you have, they state "Using only renewable energy, it takes the Volvo C40 30,000 miles to break even with the XC40, rising to 48,000 on the average EU mix and 70,000 miles on the global mix." Essentially, the average UK driver will see net reductions in emissions after 2.5 years of ownership assuming the average of 20K mile average for the UK driver. In areas like British Columbia, Sweden, or Norway, where 100% of electricity is produced by hydroelectric dams and wind, the owner of a new C40 could see a net reduction in emissions after 1.5 years based on 20,000miles per year. Not bad, and undoubtedly, this will be further reduced as manufacturing processes become more streamlined, environmentally friendly etc.

[@markbright7845]

Well done for speaking out.

[@stevew9810]

Congrats on the award Stu! Myself and Mrs SteveW have discussed EVs and have come to the conclusion that if/when we are forced to eventually use them, we will have only one car from that point onwards and I'll buy another motorcycle (but a cheaper runabout that I won't worry about keeping sparkly clean) rather than having the two cars we currently own (my Seat Leon 184 Diesel and my wife's Dacia Sandero Stepway, which is our current local runabout car). I would also probably lease the EV and it would be the cheapest EV I could find at the time. Then for longer trips/holidays in the UK, I'd just hire a more "premium" EV for that trip. I think this will be the best choice for us financially anyway.

[@ianrichardson3968]

It's looking more and more like you will be renting them. As for a runabout M/C you have 2 options. 1. There won't be any. 2 They'll be electric and expensive. With the same issues regarding batteries unless better ones are developed. You might need a re-think Steve. There are already a few companies renting EVs..into is one. You rent on a monthly basis everything included. So you can change to another one any month you want. Dealers will be leasing the things.

[@CharltonSupporter]

Good morning Stuart are you aware of the latest craze of stealing the connection leads at charging point for the copper?

[@68orangecrate26]

Great rundown on the truth about EV’s. It’s sickening to think that the British government is targeting their home grown motorcycle industry with draconian regulations. It’s the most eco friendly form of transport aside from the bicycle! All in the name of political power…

[@TheGazza636]

A very enlighten video confirming what I thought about ev products. Why would volvo lie.that just about sums the job up in my opinion.

[@leadballoon2653]

Was in a taxi in Ireland last week, a brand new electric MG. Taxi driver said he got a 20,000 (TWENTY THOUSAND!) euro grant to buy it as long as he proved he'd scrapped his old diesel Mondeo. He said there was nothing wrong with the Mondeo, still faultless but it had to go to the scrapyard. I wonder what EV sales would be without governments handing free cash (our taxes) out left, right and centre!

[@thebrowns1017]

Very interesting. I'm going to stick with my old Merc until it drops to bits. 12 years old, 130,000 miles and will give me over 50 mpg on a long trip.

[@densalbeach1]

I remember Clarkson covering similar relating to the making of a Prius back in the old Top Year days! Always remember there are lies, can lies and then there are statistics!

[@timeast6412]

Well researched, Stuart,personally as a 73 yr old I am in a dilemma re my 4 yr old Zoe,in very good nick.I reckon to drive for another 7 yrs,god willing and the car will then be junk,so should I sell now for a decent price,buy a cheap secondhand petrol car and pocket some cash?

[@ianseddon9347]

Yes!!! My neighbour’s Zoe got down to 70% batteries in 5 years and became valueless.

[@timeast6412]

@@ianseddon9347 interesting comment,I’ve been careful with charging,so mine are fine so far,but I’m 80% convinced to sell.Probably too late for your neighbour’s car but you can change individual duff cells on the Zoe.

[@paulgardner2203]

Another very interesting video,I think I would tend to believe what Volvo are saying rather than believe anything that comes from any government!

[@drstrangelove4998]

E bikes and scooters, just don’t expect to take them on trains, the can spontaneously catch fire violently and are therefore banned - for the same reason don’t charge them at home. Scrapyards hate taken written off EV, they can reignite in a scrapyard in the yard weeks later causing utter chaos.

[@rl7881]

Best EV’s are Trains, Trams and Lunar Roving Vehicle; ‘in my opinion!’ Interesting and enjoyable video, thank you.

[@toastnotoflondon8500]

Excellent research as always Stuart. Thanks for the in depth information.

[@luisloya1120]

I recently read about a local man burned to death in his electric car when it overturned. Apparently the batteries shorted out and the door mechanism had no power to allow him to safely exit. 😭

[@timsatch9198]

Very thought provoking and well put. Someone else just mentioned power tools as an example (very well put). I was using top mark power tools, removing/fitting up to a thousand screws a day in the aircraft industry. 2 to 3 years was about the best you could get out of a battery and our tool supply really looked after them. When and where have you seen anyone trying to save the planet. If 90% of people's journeys can be done in a tiny frugal 2 seater, where are they all. If a cruise ship produces more pollution than 5 million cars, why are they still operating. 300 cruise ships is an awful lot of refugee camps. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS BEING DONE TO SAVE THE PLANET. Just make more excuses to milk the masses.

[@martinholt2844]

Very interesting Stu and is right in line with all your previous vids on EV’s and with more validation. The fact that Volvo are sticking their neck out, may make other manufacturers do likewise, one by one! 👍

[@bazthejazz]

For company car drivers, leasing a new EV is very popular - the benefit tax is much more favorable than for an ICE car (although there are no details of what the tax treatment might be after 2023/24), zero road tax, plus free electricity if their business premises have charging points. But I would guess that leasing charges will increase as the residual value of EVs declines in line with preceived remaining battery life.

[@markholmes6831]

I know someone who has fallen out of love with his ev for the same reasons mentioned here (less range, lack of charging points, resulting in 2 £70 parking tickets)

[@Sonnybee01]

I think you did a previous one that was very similar in regards to e-cars. I agree they are just not ready for market. Range and Charging are the main two reasons.

[@paulb4uk]

I have said all along battery's will wear and the range will get lower as it gets older plus the weather will also play a big part .they are one big hassle and there will never be enough charging stations Who has the time to spend 40 minutes to charge their vehicle .I have a 145,000 miles on my 1993 carlton .

[@stephensalt6787]

Take a look at TFL truck & TFLEV, watch the tests and comparison tests for the Ford F-150 Lightning EV and the mind blowing Hummer EV which weighs 4,500kgs which can accelerate o-60 in 3*5secs which takes a week to charge at home off a normal socket or 39hrs on a proper home charger. And this behemoth is exempt the congestion charge in London! The lack of logic is tragic, good vid.

[@decayintheuk]

My e-bike battery packed in after 3 years and 30-ish charges. The bike lived in the house and was left at 60% between charges, the replacement is £600 and this is just for a bicycle. I’m selling it and going back to total pedal power😠