How long does it really fly?|flywoo explorer

[@Mr6o8]

Alright here’s some tips for the rth and the li-ions. So the rth won’t work unless you have 5-6 satellites BEFORE you arm. Cold starts aka powering a gps in a new location can take a few min before acquiring sats. So what I do is plug in a pack, scoot around myself to make sure the kwad is alright and gain some sats. Then I come back to myself, land, disarm, (switch packs if need be) then arm and take off and you’ll have the home arrow and the rth feature will work. BUT only use the rth switch if you are more than 100m from your home location or it will literally fall out of the sky (ask me how I know). Also once you flip the switch to turn off the rth to gain control again, make sure you have some throttle or it will fall out of the sky (ask me how I know). When it comes to li-ions you can fly them down to like 2.5v per cell, but would play it safe and only go down to 3.0v per cell.

[@BOTGRINDER]

Thank you so much!!! Shit looks like i have to do the video again 😅😅

[@Mr6o8]

@@BOTGRINDER nah that was great for a first rip man!

[@brokenpropfpv8917]

wait so the max voltage is 4.2, and the "nominal' is 3v?

[@Mr6o8]

@@brokenpropfpv8917 you can drain them down to 2.5v “safely” but it start to drop fast under 3v.

[@peterzingler6221]

@@brokenpropfpv8917 nominal voltage is 3.6 to 3.7 depending on the cell. However the capacity lies between 3.8 and 3.3 v unlike a lipo where it's at 4.2 to 3.8. That's also why higher cells in series works better with lion cells

[@HippieFPV]

11:26 "they're not having a cemetery. Like a somebody died thing" im dead xD

[@zdm5290]

Actually you can technically fly LiIon down to 2.5v per cell, also you can change the RTH minimum distance down to 50m, and set the RTH sanity checks to failsafe only to be able to hit the switch when ever you want. Edit: Pants lookin fly bro

[@BOTGRINDER]

Good looks 👖

[@originafreerangechicken]

From this video I learned that I don’t say “fuck” nearly enough. Also, this is still my favorite fucking fpv channel and place to escape this crazy fucking world. Thanks man.

[@matthis4313]

You can go to a much lower voltage on Ion cells

[@EDCandLace]

Hubby and I built a plane kinda based on a skyhunter but with a ultra efficient airfoil and a desolved foam core fiberglass wing and tail surfaces and carbon monocoque fuse. Flying Dragonlink 915 and 1.2 FPV and a full eagle tree system setup. It was a fairly large plane at 2650mm wing. It was powered by one large out runner and a folding carbon 14in prop. We ran 5S 6P Panasonic 18650s. Just a big brick of cells lol but the flight times was astounding. Over the ocean here in the keys we flew out and back over 100 miles on multiple occasions so 200 miles covered. The plane would cruise around 60mph ground speed. I'll tell you 5 hour round trip flights are exciting on paper but when you are in the air and just looking at water it gets boring quick until you loose video 50 miles out and you sit and wait for 2 hours waiting on it to come home lol.. Yes that happened on one flight, we lost telemetry and video because the antenna tracker failed and was was 62 miles out... We wait about 1 hour all thr sudden got a flicker of video and was like omg she's still flying coming back to us lol. About ten mins later video was back fully at around and we flew her in and landed. We really loved the model and so we retired her after that flight, well I mean we retired the extremely long distance flights after that and started using it for just exploring out to around 10miles or so where we was not as likely to lose it. Model has about 500 hours or more on it and never crashed, we still fly it here and there to this day. We need to build some new 18650 packs and see what it's capable of with the new and much better 18650s... This was around 5 to 6 years ago when we was doing these really long flights and I'm sure the cells of today are MUCH better then the cells of 5 to 6 years ago. I will say the cells hold up for a LONG time... Those cells we flew back then we still fly it with but you can tell they don't have a lot left in them current wise as they have a hard time putting out over 15 amps for just a few seconds without a lot of voltage sag during take off but do great at 7 to 8 amps once in the air. I'm going to build a new pack with new cells and see what she can do with a fresh pack. I mean I know the cells are a lot better then they used to be because we have built a bunch of 18650 4s packs for our race quads and they preform OK for that so long as you aren't trying to rip and you can get some really good flight times if you watch what you are doing. I bought two of the 4in flywoo quads and can't wait to see how fun a small little quiet 4in 20 to 25min capable quad that's still some what acro capable will be. We have been in to long range since the start of it, one thing I can say acro and LR doesn't normally work together but this is a truly viable option that will give solid crusie speeds, some acro capabilities and plenty of air time per pack.

[@OA_RA_FBA_FBM]

Omg I'm so happy I found this guy you are my new favorite KZbin fpv infotainment. "When do my satellites come up"? Literally 1 second later "Fuck it let's go"... 🤪 I am the same, glad to see I not the only one that thinks like this. I'm curious if your gonna try the home feature. Should make for a episode.

[@xjet]

All I ever do is cruise :-D

[@pleiadianpilot5076]

I wish i could, from the second i leave the floor i get battery warnings lol just realised who that is, hey Bruce

[@Karbonkage]

Cruising the gay bars does not count xjet😌..... 😛❤️

[@xjet]

@@Karbonkage Damn... *NOW* you tell me :-D

[@slowentropy4531]

I get so bored so quickly just cruising, I think I'd rather just go for a bush walk in person lol. I need to be flying on that ragged edge to be having fun haha. Same damn problem I had with motorbikes, I just couldn't enjoy a nice easy cruise

[@xjet]

@@slowentropy4531 For me, cruising *is* the ragged edge :-D

[@GardoRotor]

Best flight commetmentary ever👍🚁

[@johnleequenzer]

like the jeans and the new mic the new pics dope bro

[@rhinosaur6100]

I have one. It's only a 450mw vtx that comes on the analog version. I put a tbs evo on it, 800mw is way better, especially if you are going out over a mile.

[@dupfpv14]

Me too, I put a 1200mw akk on is. Much better for a micro long range..

[@rallysoob]

Skinny jeans for the win bro. Thanks for doing what u do mang. My fav fpv channel by a long shot

[@OA_RA_FBA_FBM]

I knew I was on the right video when he said... "this is all pointless information, let's head to the cemetery"

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

One tip for sat's if you don't want to waste battery and heat up your vtx when waiting is plug a usb back up charger into the FC it will power the gps. Plug it a few minutes before you fly then you'll be good to go when you go to fly.

[@seesea9614]

THAT COOL

[@cold-frontin_penguin7902]

Or just put it in race mode🤷

[@groomlakefisherman]

Great flight with a lot longer flight time. Thinking about getting one myself but holidays are fast approaching. Ya look fine with the jeans man, might not have to worry about it until you’re maybe around fifty.

[@slyplaymike1]

Those packs will go to 10volts safely....15 minutes easily

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

I wouldn't go much past 12v in a cruise and maybe 10v on a full punch the 2.5v cut off everyone mentions if you look at datasheets for the cells it's only supposed to go that low if you're pulling really low amps. In my experience once they get to 3v a cell they drop voltage super fast and it's likely shortening the life and capacity of the cell dramatically.

[@PIDtoolbox]

Ya it gets real spongy when your around 10-12v but it’ll keep going for a while after that. Just gotta watch the throttle. It’s not gonna pull out of a dive.

[@QSpeedRacer]

Manufacturer of one of the Li-ion put out 2.5v lowest it should ever go. And after being unplugged. Should bounce back to 3v. So guess guess depends how much it's sagging.. I drained mine to 2.5v and it bounced back to like 3.5v lmao 10a pack haha

[@BigDFPV]

Great review Bot, I always enjoy these types of videos from you. The jeans look fine lol

[@RLMitchell]

I've said this before, but props to you for using Aesop Rock's beat as your intro. Also, you LOOK like Aes too. If you're an Aes fan lmk what your favorite track is by him. Great video, good work.

[@OA_RA_FBA_FBM]

I'm gonna have to roll something for the rest of this video. It's just so good bro definitely new sub with bell 🔔 🙌🏿

[@jenshenrikson7693]

I've seen a lot of those long range (long time?) videos but this is the one that makes me want one! 🙂👍

[@johnleequenzer]

so cool i did a long range flight withe the same set up its on my channel love that drone and battery !!! i take mine down to 3.2 really enjoy watching!!!

[@flyingmonkey8245]

Love your videos bot unlike rotoriots, theirs seem so staged yours is fun to watch:)

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Also on betaflight raise the maximum throttle on RTH. Because on a low li-ion it takes near the maximum or more throttle to just hover.

[@jameslaraia]

Jeans were dope, video was tight, or did i get that backwards....? seriously though, jeans were cool and keep up the amazing content.

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

@1:35 you can charge on a LiPo setting but do not charge at more than 1C. Samsung calls for .5c charge rate and Sony calls for 1c. So 3amp charge rate for your LithiumIon 3s packs. Also your LiPo charge setting is likely to set your storage voltage at 3.8v instead of 3.6 volts(LiIon storage voltage). As others have said, 3.0 is about as low to go. I will goto 2.8v in the air if I need a little more time to find a spot to land.

[@BOTGRINDER]

Thank you!

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

@@BOTGRINDER the LithiumIon game is so different. So cool to see stuff finally coming for us to buy versus having to build it. Just for some info for VTC6 cells I view them as a 15 amp continuous packs. If you look up the specs out there they list 30 amps as a max continuous current. Too many people have seemed to call that as the current rating for the cells. But I have seen the cells come down pretty hot if you go above 15 amps. I have bought the RCToolKit current meter and calibrated my ESC/FC through BetaFlight. I went to the motors tab with props on and spun it up while watching to see what throttle % I reached 15 amps on the current meter. Then I played with my betaflight settings til my current meter showed the same current for same throttle. I ONLY do that with these little 3-4in quads where I am strong enough to grip them and only going to like 40% throttle max. But having calibrated a bunch of my FC I now feel much better flying my 18650s knowing I am not exceeding the pack's current limits.

[@greedfox7842]

I fly mine with a 850mah lipo... it only gets like 10-12 mins but it has a lot more power to weight, with the runcam thumb its still zippy. (AUW 246grams) the lion battery feels way too heavy for it, it takes like half throttle to even get off the ground and it screams like its going set fire.

[@skyhackerfpv7104]

Amazing commentary and review! I'm getting me some of those skinny jeans, they look sick bro!

[@anxietyfpv6072]

Probly one of ur best reviews. I bought one.

[@BOTGRINDER]

Its totally worth it, fun ass little relaxing quad.

[@DrMacca]

MOST IMPORTANTLY: The (skinny) jeans look great. Great video as well. Keep up the great work, love ya buddy! 👍👍👍

[@markapperley5]

Awesome pictures dude, keep on with mint content u the man🤘🤘

[@fitchyyboi]

Your channel is so rad lol

[@BOTGRINDER]

Hey thanks!

[@lolmetyuri]

Been making banger since '91🥶

[@adnamamedia]

Hey not sure if you know, but you can run 18650s down do 2.5v, versus 3.7 for a LiPo.

[@BOTGRINDER]

I totally didn't know until like 15 minutes ago haha

[@adnamamedia]

@@BOTGRINDER 😂 damn. I only say cause I also thought lions end at 3.7 until I heard JB or someone else like that mention it.

[@BOTGRINDER]

Haha guess I'm doing another test

[@mattknowsnothing]

@S Grim true😂

[@MattyBluntz]

You can run Lions way lower than lipo. Like 2.5 or even 2v per cell

[@MotoVenturagt]

I love your videos dude hahahah! great review

[@peregrineflow7354]

YES. Thanks Botgrinder! The Flywoo Explorer is now fully vetted. 18650 cells. Fuck yeah. I prefer flying leisurely because I'm geezerly.

[@jacobreezyfpv6287]

I totally agree with your intro at about 5 min I was like I still have over half battery

[@OA_RA_FBA_FBM]

Omg this is just too good in the late night. My guy told himself he ain't doin all that. Im done ☠☠☠

[@casper01]

Sik review bro - love the artworkz too, give it a chance - patrons can relate to the art 💯🔥🍺

[@upplsuckimcool16]

Can't you go way under 3.5V with li ion?

[@BOTGRINDER]

Yeah didn't know when I filmed this lol

[@upplsuckimcool16]

@@BOTGRINDER I didnt know until i saw that same video that told you as well.... that long range video where he goes up the mountain.... I was like ;O how the hell did he get back.... Then i went to write a comment and saw you had already written one as well hahaha He wrote back to me too and sed ot was li ion.... then i realized that you can do that.... this was yesterday

[@LumpyFPV]

Only 0:40 into the vidya and I'm already lmao. You're the fuckin man, ya jabroni!! ♥️🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@CallowayVisuals]

Your RSSI display was reading LQ in that other video. Nothing wrong with your radio. JB did a whole video on RSSI VS LQ (Link Quality).

[@BOTGRINDER]

Yeah haha come to find out the radio is fine

[@christianvanperry]

Its a LiIon Pack, Cell voltages can go much lower to 2.9-2.7V just watch at your used mAh ! U can surely get 2700mAh out of them

[@estebanc-vistaprevia2941]

Can I charge those Li-ions with a lipo charger?? (I have the iMax b6 charger)

[@BOTGRINDER]

Yes you can charge it on lipo mode but only do 1amp max

[@ikejoco1]

Holding the mic like a jambroni. Lol. Nice Mac reference. Is it always sunny there? Peace bro. Keep being awesome...

[@georgeaura]

Can you use that battery on other builds?

[@BOTGRINDER]

I wouldnt freestyle with it

[@peterzingler6221]

If you want a dead battery yes. Otherwise no. A single p 18650 pack can't cope with anything over 3inch for full bean flying and even that is already at the limit

[@peterowland1552]

Ya look safe bro. Them jeans safe 👖👍😂😂

[@7LETITBE7]

Has anyone had the issue with the explorer not binding with the tango 2?

[@slogan9105]

nice work Bot-G

[@adnamamedia]

also btw you look good in the skinny jeans LMAO

[@TheWhoIsThat]

I’ve wondered the same with my rssi I fly tbs crossfire.

[@lameandboard]

Lion batteries you can fly a 4s to like 13.8

[@NimrodPorath]

Its 18650... You can fly down to 3.0

[@BOTGRINDER]

yeah i was told that several times after i made this haha

[@bigg1smalls]

Just cancelled my order. Waiting over two months for the analogue tbs version. Might just build my own. I like the 18650 pack.

[@raddestkidever]

Mine took over two months to ship

[@TRITONFPV]

Hey Bot, do they have something like this for a 5" with an XT60 connector?

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Is that ur RSSI or LQ? Cause my crossfire is like never at 99 and I raised the scale in betaflight to make it hit 99 when a foot away

[@metaldirtnskin]

I snagged one of these (mine's DJI, sorry 😜). 7-8 minutes on a regular 850mAh 4s lipo is easily doable if you're just cruising around, which is a blast anyway. ps: welcome to the 40+ beardo in skinny jeans club.

[@Barnz1980]

Fuck you make me laugh Mr Bot👍 hilarious review 😂🤣😂 skinny jeans, the timer bit, DJI rants 😂🤣😂

[@badrx5783]

you can fly the battery down to 2.5v per cell

[@MrCrowleyandhisdrone]

Good job bud. Long flight

[@NimrodPorath]

Its not like lipo... You can get down to 3.0

[@BOTGRINDER]

correct

[@cantifpv669]

depending on the manufacturer you can go as low as 2.9 VDC a cell.

[@AdrianoCasemiro]

Nice mic. So you're flying Li-ion now? We're all getting old farts just cruising around. I guess I have to try one of those too, because its better to be old than dead, I suppose. You know these batteries can go all the way down to 12V. Fancy different chemistry on those. Love from Brazil, Bot.

[@veek2767]

Yo should I just go in with a Tango 2 if I primarily fly Tiny Whoops? What do I need for that set up. The Tango 2 looks sick.

[@BOTGRINDER]

Well you would have to put a crossfire rx in it which I do on my whoops but can be a little tricky mounting antenna

[@veek2767]

@@BOTGRINDER Someone told me there is some kinda $10 module that makes it d8 compatible?

[@doktordrone]

great info! thanks :)

[@keaganlindsay7648]

Your such a caricature, I love it 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jlarson42]

I just won the Flywoo LR Explorer frame from Flywoo , perfect timing on this video. I'm shopping for parts and saw these Li-ion batteries. I love cruising around. First time getting satellites can be slow. Should be quicker next flight. Happy ripping 🖕💖🤓

[@BOTGRINDER]

Oh awesome im already really like mine

[@ericvezina6157]

Keep going buddy🤟

[@QSpeedRacer]

Heard it has 25x25 mounting holes. Id do a 20a aio to keep weight down. And get a better gps. Also shield wires better to gps . Something. Heard a lot of things to try to fix it. I have a akk x2 ultimate vtx for my explorer

[@jlarson42]

@@QSpeedRacer I ordered a GPS mount to put it above the vtx antenna. That helped on my 7" build.

[@QSpeedRacer]

@@jlarson42 smart thimking

[@sershanity8171]

My favorite youtuber 😂💯🔥 damn I still have my skinny jeans back from d day, but I ain't skinny no more haha cheers brah🍺🍺🍺

[@AKtoTok]

Heck yaa, great flight and commentary! Idk about these, I have mixed feelings.. Ive gotten 10 minutes doing minor freestyle and cruising using 6s on my sector 150 so 🤷‍♂️

[@overdosed51]

I liked the background Bot. Then again im fucking stoned af lol

[@edwinbonilla7627]

Good gear, nice threads.. Looking good🤖 bruh!

[@02kendrick]

You can fly 18650 batteries to 3.2v no lower than 3v to get more flight time. Love your videos buddy!!

[@ThePetersand]

On LiOns bats U can go safely as low as 12.5V hence u had only 10ish min fly time hehe

[@LilwickedFpv]

U did it again Yayyyyy. lol u got to not talking dji bad lol but I luv when u do

[@509FUN]

Lol not a usual battery so it’s not gonna be a normal ending voltage that’s your problem😂 but side note I do make these packs with recycled power tool cells if you want one maybe get ahold of meh

[@dirtfpv]

Excellent vid. I just picjed up the iFlight Chimera 4" and 7". Can't wait to get them flying. Skinny jeans look great. That's what happens when you turn 40. I usually take my LiPos to 3.5v/cell, which isn't bad for them. 3.7v is their nominal (average) voltage, which is the mid-point from 4.2v to dead. You can take these LiIons down a bit more without issue, but I personally wouldn't go below 3.0v/cell. Bardwell said the other day you can take them down to 2.5v. WTF? Also, since you are using crossfire, you should stop using RSSI. It is not as accurate as LQ. Turn on LQ in the OSD for accurate information on signal strength.

[@RCRitterFPV]

Those cells go down to 2.8v don't they?

[@BOTGRINDER]

Yeah, didn't know that when I was filming lol

[@RCRitterFPV]

@@BOTGRINDER easy content.. the follow ups... things I learned from comments after my reviews... "Lets try that again" haha, Peace mate.

[@DronoTron]

14.8 on lipos, but these li ion can go down to 10V!

[@TailSpinRCSpain]

You can take Li-ion packs lower than regular LiPO.

[@jjj25313]

Bot looks cool

[@paulclement3235]

That was a good flight.

[@degenapedev]

I flew my flywoo explorer for 18 minutes and well it was quite boring after 10 min, you can fly your 4s 13.6 so you would have gotten like 20+ minutes

[@garylawrence4youtub]

Matty Bluntz tearin it up

[@godshivshiv3654]

Where do you fly in Philly I just started to fly lmk if you want to link up and fly

[@BOTGRINDER]

All over. [e-mail] hmu!

[@noisy_boi_fpv_3920]

Sats lock when un armed man theres more settings in cli to speed it up in some hemispheres. Sick vid man.

[@peterzingler6221]

Guys don't let them rip you off. Those so goooood 3500mah 3s and 4s packs are just 4 dollar cells you can buy for that money. Build those packs your self! LG mrj1 for 10amp packs or vtc5a for 35amp packs. Don't go for vtc6 they claim to be 30amps but they can't do it they are more of a 20amp cell and will die fast

[@DominicanSheik]

im 43, i wear slims, but not to the point where my balls can't breathe. but you're about to be 41. we gotta pick up a bit with the wardrobe lol

[@mauritz1774]

5 Catelites after 4 minutes is normal. Becurse the gps is Brand new. You made an cold Start of the GPS Module. When you Startup the GPS dir the First Time, then evry GPS Module needs couple minutes to Find Catelites. When you Startup the Drone an Minute or 2 Weeks later the GPS will Work Instand. You get only the long Loding time when you travel with your drone Kong Distances like an other Kontinent or other Size of the erth

[@Moonsauc3]

4s lion packs can be ran to 12v safely

[@BOTGRINDER]

YES

[@slothandturtle8036]

Cool but now you need vans or chucks 😜✌🏻

[@artply]

great video dude. I've been contemplating if I should build the Flywoo 4" as a cruiser, I will now. I gotta tell ya, my favorite part of this video is "fuck DJI" lol, i feel the same way.

[@BOTGRINDER]

Buy the explorer here-bit.ly/3emUnYz

[@Happy_FPV]

so no joke. you literally solidified my choice to stay with analogue, now i need ORCA's....but i can't fucking afford them... fuck me running...anyway.. cool video. now i want that shit too. thanks bot for making me want to spend more money and go broke further..i hope you win the lotto and just get to chill forever...

[@OA_RA_FBA_FBM]

"Also if you make them send me some and I'll say there good".

[@stevo43068]

Another fuckin' good one Brother. Love.

[@marsmachine1156]

What is the point of cruising so far, for so long if you are watching analog DVR? 🤷🏻‍♂️ If you are used to analog and never tried digital, I understand. Don’t you miss that beautiful clear digital DVR? It is so cool to cruise when you can see all the details (scraggle). Cool vid anyway! 🤘🏻

[@BOTGRINDER]

because dji is a horribly shitty company and some of us have morals and would rather support company's that give back to the community?🤷

[@marsmachine1156]

@@BOTGRINDER Yeah. Ok, sorry I rephrased my comment... sure the ol’ DJI is evil thing again. Well maybe you can show us a video with SharkByte soon, would be cool! I think DJI has made a fantastic product and is changing our hobby for the good... each to their own.

[@BOTGRINDER]

When regulations come clamping down and dji is the first to bend over id like to hear again how they are doing good for the hobby. But yes to each their own, cheers bro! I dont mean to sound to harsh in just tired of this argument with everyone

[@peterzingler6221]

@@BOTGRINDER you are right bot. F3k dji for ever

[@marsmachine1156]

@@BOTGRINDER I wanted to sell my ol’ analog kit to a friend on the weekend who FPV‘d for the first time and after seeing my HD kit he said he‘d rather save up to get that, than fly with that horrible analog DVR. Yes, they are changing the hobby and I hope Fatshark will continue to do so too, soon. I will never forget the moment, when I changed from box goggle to Fatsharks, it was kinda like, yeah the form factor is great but meh, same shitty analog DVR. With DJI FPV it is literally a whole new world. You had a bad experience, I get it but there are so many FPV pilots changing to DJI that our interest is in their interest. Just think about Caddx Vista supplies 🤷🏻‍♂️ This isn’t just a little tiny niche market for them anymore... Anywhoo, I love your channel and your hilarous commentary! Right up their with Zoroe, another pilot who has changed over to the dark side... Stay safe! 👊🏻

[@briancourtice2858]

They're not having one of those little, like cemetery, somebody died fucking things. Eh...I think "funeral" is the concept you were trying to bring to mind.

[@werriewoepers]

U can run a 16850 pack to 12v

[@FUFUFUFPV]

I fukcin love this shit, not this drone but this video bro heh

[@OnepackFpv]

Why 14.8?

[@BOTGRINDER]

I didn't know you could run them lower

[@Mr18031967]

as always bot great vid funny as fuck have a great day bro see you on the live stream