How many jet engines is too many? Griffith VTO

[@HomelanderIsSick]

Captain, our engine is on fire. “No problem, we have 67 for backup”.

[@Musicreach101]

So it only runs on one engine 🤔

[@HomelanderIsSick]

@Musicreach101 No captain sully, but one engine can sure catch fire :) and 67 can be enough for the landing (hopefully).

[@williamzk9083]

Minimum you need for table flight is 3 but let’s make it 4. Let’s treble that for redundancy so that makes 12. Ideally you want so many such that 1-2 failures has no effect on operations and is merely swapped out after landing. From that pint of view 4 x 6 =24 makes sense. The engines should be service free for the life of the aircraft

[@NUTICLNMSIS]

Captain, our engine is on fire. " Whichhhh oneeee?"

[@HomelanderIsSick]

@@williamzk9083 Imagine the number of thrust levers that would be needed, and imagine controlling all of them at minimums😂

[@captain_commenter8796]

Ah yes, bankrupting the passengers AND the Airline! Two birds one plane

[@dc-101]

Two towers in onw plane ?

[@GAMERDUDE-pog]

@@dc-101dry af

[@SamHe-nm8sz]

​@@dc-101two towers two planes

[@kallyy3471]

4 towers 1 fish

[@christopherneufelt8971]

4 weddings and a funeral. Of engineers.

[@jgedutis]

This thing has more engines than passengers

[@RobloxiaIntlAerospaceGroup]

Correct

[@CosmicHase]

An electric car usually dies too. 2-4 motors and a single driver, because he has no friends or partners, because he is a nerd, no one likes him,

[@Redmentoos]

​@@CosmicHase wrong. noone likes ppl like you

[@zh84]

This is so Thunderbirds I'm surprised they didn't consult with Derek Meddings on the design.

[@thedon-e6514]

Yep - absolutely inspiration for TB1

[@DimasHaryoGustama]

This is essentially a prototype of a Star Destroyer.

[@jack1701e]

Reminds me of Mauls ship from Phantom Menace :p

[@DimasHaryoGustama]

​@@jack1701e ooh yeah, those side wings design are closer to the scimitar indeed

[@davedsilva]

Fantastic!

[@DtWolfwood]

the noise inside would be something else lol

[@ivanbidey472]

So true lol

[@clippy-v4q]

Made me think about the BAC One-Eleven

[@JoostThissen]

The vtol is to land in the city center. Imagine the noise of 50+ old engines in the city center.

[@SoggaSogga]

you wouldn't have to worry about hearing the sonic boom at least

[@floridamangaming2453]

I will now regurgitate a quote from the hit manga 'Berserk' *clears throat* GRRRRIIIIIIFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTHHHHHH

[@dc-101]

Good

[@stratometal]

Bleh, Berserk is overhype. Good quote though.

[@FarțResidue]

i was thinking the same thing lol

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

2 choking, 2 smoking, 2 turning, 2 burning, 2 unaccounted for, 2 snoring, 2 pumping, 2 slaying, 2 balling, 2 dripping, 2 fuming...

[@constantinosschinas4503]

lol, great reference

[@Boop__Doop]

Aircraft engineer 1: ok we have 67 engines. Aircraft engineer 2: do you know what this plane really needs

[@WhatWhy42]

Elon Musk: add one more... 69

[@adamSmith_1723]

This literally looks like something straight out of Despicable Me. Like the aircraft owned by Scarlet Overkill when she transports the minions to the United Kingdom

[@Dingleberry764]

true

[@safariman6410]

Berserk fans watching this video: GRIFFIIIITHHHH

[@slipper22]

glad im not the only one that instantly thought of that

[@LastGoatKnight]

MGS fans: LIQUIIIIID (because of the fuel economy, tons of fuel, so the slightest shake would make an audible slushing sound)

[@anotherbacklog]

The VTOL would have solved the issue of needing dedicated runways required for the Arsenal Bird. Kudos to the Brits and the special tea. Interestingly the tip of the Griffith reminds me of the bill/sword and oil glands of the marlin/swordfish. The marlin got a ridiculously large oil gland that takes up a good proportion of its skull, connected to oil pores along the bill. One of the proposed function of the secreted oil is to significantly lowers friction and improve hydrodynamics of the fish, allowing it to swim at unbelievable speeds. The structure is very similar to the bow shock wave from the shock cone. Maybe some sort of bio mimicry?

[@jimsvideos7201]

68? It’d be nicer if they counted the APU too.

[@twistedyogert]

69. Nice

[@tumslucks9781]

​@@twistedyogert😜😁

[@iliffwerdegast5487]

That is a Gerry Anderson craft if I have ever seen one.

[@trespire]

Firefly.

[@weldonwin]

Especially the nuclear powered one. Everything is nuclear powered in Gerry Anderson land

[@fortworthron]

Thunderbirds Are Go!!!... 😀

[@weldonwin]

@@fortworthron F.A.B!

[@HandsomeSquidward-q7g]

Okay, who the hell teleported a Speed-Freek Ork from 40K, gave it an unlimited supply of super-cocaine and then allowed it access to an aeronautical drawing board?

[@thomgizziz]

You mean paper? This literally was never a thing. You are getting duped by ancient aliens level of nonsense. Just because you have never heard about something doesn't mean you start listening and believing everything about it.

[@HarvickOne]

00:28 flew? it was not even built

[@carlosvasquez9890]

This is straight out of The Thunderbirds...

[@trespire]

From trapped in the sky.

[@Spartan136]

It’s crazy to think that we don’t have anything even close to this today, yet here these guys are designing a futuristic supersonic VTOL airliner decades ago. Either way, I want the tea they were drinking.

[@papergunman145]

And it had 68 engines. If each engine was the power of a F15 engine it would go Mach 60

[@varnix1006]

Tbh the problem of such aircraft is they're heavy, maintenance heavy, not fuel efficient, and loud. Most of the problem came from the VTOL system, they take up fuel space, and take fuel from the main engine.

[@Mr.Universe]

@@varnix1006 its been decades planes like this could definitely work nowadays...VTOL systems have advanced over the years.

[@thomgizziz]

@@Mr.Universe Still a wildly inefficient way of doing things and doesn't make it a good idea. Second this was nothing more than something on paper and yet all you slowmos are pretending like it was actually made. You don't drag around a bunch of extra engines and literally tons of weight for no cost.

[@srfnsurfer]

I think simulations eliminate a lot crazy ideas. Either financially or physics. Shame

[@kamikazeviking3053]

Griffith: just in case the Concorde didn't cause enough noise pollution

[@danzjz3923]

looks like i know what to do in Flyout tomorrow

[@thomgizziz]

Your design in flyout will push the "design" of this aircraft further than the originators. This wasn't really much of a thing and youtubers like this need to stop it with the hidden knowledge nonsense. It is basically ancient aliens for people who like airplanes and are also slow.

[@danzjz3923]

@ oh i know

[@LOUIZ-9403]

4:26 to skip sponsor

[@milolouis]

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[@LOUIZ-9403]

@milolouis nah mate, dont want my account to get blocked

[@stephenpointon]

W.E.Griffith was also the man who told Whittle the jet engine wouldn't work. He pointed out an error in Whittle's calculations and refused him government funding. He did this while working on his own design which was basically a turboprop (the contraflow)

[@NobleHusky]

I've had a design like this in my head since I was a kid. Funny to see it was given any kind of a chance lol

[@canis2020]

There is no such thing as too many. Speed is all that matters.

[@seanbigay1042]

There is no such thing as overkill! There is only "Open fire!" and "Reload!" ... Wait ... that's ... not quite the same thing ... 😊

[@canis2020]

@seanbigay1042 it's the same pictue

[@tnapeepeelu]

"Sir we have an engine out!" "...okay, so?"

[@Afro_Dude1261]

Still my favorite KZbinr who talks about airplanes ❤️

[@ratvomit874]

Tower: You're cleared for takeoff Pilots: Shit we just ran out of fuel!

[@Neur0nauT]

That's literally a spaceship. A grand proof of concept. Maybe easier to develop again some time soon with less cost and more practicality. It feels more designed for upper-atmospheric travel, with the bonus of easy VTOL... Maybe once we colonise the moon or mars.... this concept will reappear as the moon/mars Taxi! Still be super expensive to R&D at present times.

[@davedsilva]

Compact nuclear fusion to the rescue

[@chovboy7226]

it’s 1am. i have to be up in 6 hours for college. i was just about to go to bed. but found and explained just posted a new video. i am now no longer going to bed

[@NetFlight_26]

lol

[@jeremiahrbarr]

Lol, I hear you

[@thomgizziz]

And you are also wasting time writing a comment to get attention... what is wrong with your head?

[@wormyboot]

I've put Jebediah Kerman in sketchier airplanes but not by much.

[@WildBillCox13]

"We have the technology today. We could do it . . ."

[@soupisgoodfood42]

Some very cool engineering, but 68 gas turbine jet engines? Sounds like a maintenance nightmare. You'd have to stagger the engine maintenance to the point it lived inside the hanger!

[@megajeremy90001]

Since we have Griffith plane, then where's the Guts plane?

[@Epicx719]

Imagine this flying g into an Aussie airport with the engines roaring

[@NorthStar-tj5yr]

Great job on your channel, I always look forward to your videos!

[@Keyboard_Thoughts]

Average Space Engineers ship

[@paulgrove1407]

Takeoff and landing was going to be loud.

[@mrab4222]

0:38 "...able to come to a halt right in the city centre." I don't think so...

[@shishoka]

One engine short of greatness.

[@ScoutSniper3124]

This has a USAF General's sweating fingerprints all over it. It screams "Farts and Darts".

[@craigwalters]

Unrealistic but amazingly inovative. Respect to the designers for their great imaginations

[@thomgizziz]

No it wasn't there were a ton of nonsense designs like this. Just because something was designed doesn't make it real. I can CAD up some nonsense planes that doesn't make them innovative nor should I deserve any respect.

[@hughie522]

Rolls-Royce engineers were asked to come up with a way to fulfil a year's worth of engine orders with one plane

[@wilhelmw3455]

A passenger plane with no windows would be hard to sell

[@makingastardestroyer3066]

I think the 2 hours from new york to london would sell it.

[@davedsilva]

Use flat screens

[@PedroHenriquePS00000]

Im glad thats not Griffith the fifth, fiftyfith anniversary of his fifth creation, ah yes griffith the fifth.

[@WynterStormYT]

The fuel consumption on this thing would have been astronomical.

[@mattmiller220]

Two things: first, it doesn’t need wheels; second, VTOL is smart for supersonic and faster because fast vehicles require long runways and there is a trade off between needed wing surface area to land and that needed for high speed flight (hence why so many sweeping wing designs of the past).

[@utkua]

at this point you can strap an engine to each passenger and carry 24 more.

[@Crowe0920]

Love your content!!! I was wondering if you could cover the goofy XF-85 Goblin?

[@astralplane6182]

Wonderful special effects - thank you!

[@kristinaF54]

If any company could pull off this madness today, it'd be SpaceX.

[@Bobsry16]

A SpaceX, Boom Overture, and Astro Mechanica collab for a fuel efficient LNG powered Griffith would be righteous. Hybrid electric, reminds me of some aircraft thing Elon hinted too a while back. That creative madness would be much appreciated by this realistic dreamer.

[@Raphael-pt7rx]

0:35 if it lands vertically its even a VTOL

[@stratometal]

If it takes me where I want to go fast I need no windows. Honestly I would be fine in any airplane without windows, I do not want to look out and just see murky clouds and depressing vistas of urban concrete jungles. If I want a leisure sightseeing flight I will get either on a heli or a blimp. Now this plane smells of engineers inhaling coffee mixed with coke or injecting it straight to their brains. Its both awesome and terrifying, and now I am going to see if someone is willing to make one in Flyout because I suck at making replicas in that game.

[@26th_Primarch]

Hell, with modern tech, the "no windows" issue can be circumvented with rear projection screens on the interior walls and cameras safely mounted in the external hull.

[@AndyBonesSynthPro]

This is one of the most awesome bad ideas I've ever seen. Batshit crazy- definitely. Overly ambitious, check. But it is bold and adventurous, with so many cool design touches. If the Nic Cage movie "Prisoners of the Ghostland" were an airplane it would be the Griffith VTO

[@uingaeoc3905]

there are dozens of these 'VTOL lifting engine' paper proposals from the UK. They were promoted by Rolls Royce for its lift jet. Nobody ever adopted the concept for a production plane, there were a few experimental projects but the idea of a military or commercial plane should waste capacity carrying around engines used for a few minutes is risible. The Soviet Yakovlev VSTOLs used such only because they had no other way to create a VSTOL plane and these had abysmal performance. There were also suggestions, notably promoted by Shorts Bros, the makers of the SC1 shown in the video at 8:05, that a separate 'lifting platform aircraft for conventional planes to ride and take off on. Rolls dropped the idea when they acquired the Bristol Siddeley Engine company with its Pegasus vectored thrust engine applied successfully to the Harrier family of aircraft.

[@jessehorn6180]

Imagine if that was a VTOL Bomber

[@ivanbidey472]

Yeah, just imagine

[@robertsnary472]

There was also a VTOL Proposal for a Vulcan with Skybolts or similar being the payload

[@MiTheMer]

Minimizing traveling time is vastly overrated. Today where you can do business from a plane thanks to satelite internet even far more than in the seventies. Just make sure that your passengers are feeling good and can keep themselves busy.

[@Bobsry16]

Supersonic flying craft are great, especially if without boom. Mach 2.5 may not be necessary for civilian commercial or private flights given the points you have made. Enjoying and being productive on the journey. This VTOL craft is gorgeous though.

[@twistedyogert]

It sounds neat, but the ticket prices would probably be outrageous.

[@wm9782]

The CGI looked so real I thought it was a new aircraft. Very educational and had no clue we were at that level od flight way back when. Imagine if greed did not demand its existence.

[@AJ1Aerospace]

That is arguably too many jet engines

[@Noodlyk18]

Clearly, 67 is obviously optimal, but 68? Madness.

[@dianapennepacker6854]

It failed because it is missing one more giant engine in the middle making it 69 engines! Hurray for odd symmetry! Always a big one in the middle when you have two pylons on the wings. This jet will be made in the future. Something like it that is. Just an electric hybrid one. Tilt powered craft are the future! Crazy how far ahead of its time it was. We would still struggle to make it. Yet active flow control is being worked on now by NASA.

[@dx-ek4vr]

If they wanted the plane to be fast, they could’ve just painted it Red. Cause everybody knows Red makes anything go faster

[@dannypipewrench533]

@@dx-ek4vr Obviously, why else would Lightning McQueen be so fast?

[@PedroHenriquePS00000]

Sounds a lot like the starship in some ways 2:20

[@WallyMahar]

You really took care of those renders. well done.

[@StaK_1980]

Really love the smooth lines of this design! If only they'd have stuck with normal take off and landing, this could have become even more feasible.

[@StealthTheUnknown]

"how long will it take to get to london again?" "about two hours." "and how many hours of fuel does it have at that speed?" "One."

[@googleyoutubechannel8554]

I like how 'found and explained' finds some obviously unworkable fever dream of a b- engineer in the 50s and makes it into something that was actually a thing.

[@AcroAirwolf]

Funny concept to melt away the concrete of the airports. I thought the CL-704 was crazy with its 15 jet engines (I built 2 models of it in 1:72), but this one tops it at all.

[@mitropoulosilias]

this can be done... 1)you need HUGE fuel tanks 2)control of all those engines almost impossible 3)cost of flight and maintenance will be HUGE 4) there is never been such a heavy and big plane on vertical take off. it would be a huge challenge.. after all it looks stupid, while you can easily remake a plane like concord

[@jaynedavies2757]

the passengers would sue for compensation, due to the deafness caused by all those engines. lol

[@VisibleToThePublic]

These are so great to watch.

[@secondbeamship]

Of course it’s named “Griffith” from Berserk.

[@cadetsparklez3300]

i swear the uk never advanced past english electric lightning doctrine and only knows how to put more skinny turbojets on eveything. prob were so happy to add 1 extra engine to the tri star

[@madamutharika7635]

The noise in that aircraft, especially during takeoff and landing, would have been deafening!

[@Shivermytimbers-q1k]

this has more engines than the amount of Mauses made

[@naeemulhoque1777]

4:05 You're gonna make a CGI Course, Amazing!

[@protogenxl]

Needs Thunderbirds March

[@S1337theoddoneout-ip9xc]

I think all that "lead on everything" was really helping people think outside the box back in the 1950's.

[@jasonjacoby]

A vertical landing at 1500 mph sounds like a hilarious way to die.

[@MultidimensionalBeing123]

my family worked on the Conchord and Lancaster bomber

[@242Evangelion]

If something would happen to this aircraft the Thunderbirds 1 and 2 would come rescue it.😅

[@oliverseltzer2172]

"why do you fly on planes with 4 engines?' "because there are none with five"

[@Phil9874]

That cabin make me claustrophobic just looking at it.

[@scottyd980]

Yeah, Right

[@leezinke4351]

It looks so awesome!

[@AKARazorback]

Back when we still cared and made inventions, tried things. Were hopeful, inspired.

[@DerekJones1081962]

Imagine if you did something similar with 4 subsonic, non-afterburning F-35B engines in a near flying wing or swing wing design.

[@sweepberry2800]

I think it is now possible to make this aircraft shall we? First, with the 3D technology, manufacturing is as easy peasy than before.. With the "no-windows" dub, heck we can install cameras and LED screens inside to make shift windows, you don't an open window aint we? I think this is a good investment and there's a plausible potential for a spaceship design.

[@superbatzbatazr7723]

Oh my god, this is the x jet

[@cortesdopixelblock5389]

You can cover the wals of the tube with screens to simulate a flight, it will be a major selling point to the instagram passengers nowadays. Imagine fell like fly to the lindon from new york seeing the landscape

[@cmbaz1140]

It looks so cool.

[@NickyLunaLove]

I love all the whimsical shit that was conjured up on the 50’s lol

[@PedroHenriquePS00000]

Imagine the smoke coming out of rolls royce these engine

[@v.a.d1784]

🔴 video on ka -90 Russian helicopter concept

[@BlastingBison]

where did you find the information about this plane?

[@ZLTLOcean]

Real question is Why so serious?

[@zlm001]

The thought of flying with 68 jet engines makes me drool.

[@tomasferreiradutto574]

*inhales * GRIIIIIFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIITTHH (Berserk reference in case you still havent known actual modern art) OG author is Kentaro Miura, RIP

[@B_-.-]

Crazy to think that this things existence means Concorde was a relatively reasonable idea.

[@evinduggins2431]

Sounds like a Blackbird, vtol, passenger variant. Just a little slower.

[@zlm001]

Thanks.

[@andyo5220]

How would you come up with the Griffith? You'd watch a lot of Thunderbirds.

[@dwightlooi]

LOL... yeah... with the fuel fraction and the specific impulse of turbojets of that thing it'll be lucky to make it from London to Dublin before running out of fuel.