How many swordsmen need to fight a Spearman?

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@weaponism
@weaponism Жыл бұрын
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@callumbiasnow4825
@callumbiasnow4825 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who has played the classic “Dynasty Warriors” games will already know it takes approximately 500 swordsmen to defeat one spear.
@gj1234567899999
@gj1234567899999 3 жыл бұрын
“Ride into the middle of an enemy formation, and swing the spear like a whirlwind over your head until 500 enemy are killed” Sun Tzu, The Art of War
@mindbreak666
@mindbreak666 3 жыл бұрын
Unless you picked honda/lu bu... Then the number of swordsman required is literally beyond what the world can throw at you.
@General_Klytus
@General_Klytus 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@General_Klytus
@General_Klytus 3 жыл бұрын
@@mindbreak666 💯
@absoluteManiac
@absoluteManiac 3 жыл бұрын
"IT'S LU BU!!!"
@richardschafer7858
@richardschafer7858 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting exercise. The spear is called the King of Weapons for a reason. Still, the relative skill of the combatants, fatigue and sheer numbers will always play key variables.
@BeachBoi1000
@BeachBoi1000 3 жыл бұрын
In a confined space, I don’t think so
@silviuflorin744
@silviuflorin744 3 жыл бұрын
These dudes bad tho
@richardschafer7858
@richardschafer7858 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeachBoi1000 True, it's why God made knives and short swords.
@BeachBoi1000
@BeachBoi1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardschafer7858 I thought the blacksmith made them
@kingkazuma2239
@kingkazuma2239 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardschafer7858 it's why man made guns
@ShadowOfCicero
@ShadowOfCicero 2 жыл бұрын
A Japanese nobleman once hosted a match between Musashi and a spear master. The spear master attacked three times, and Musashi deflected three times. They then stopped. When the nobleman asked why they stopped, the spear master replied, "If my spear can't get past his sword in three attempts, he's the better fighter."
@MrJinglejanglejingle
@MrJinglejanglejingle 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the spear master was bored, as he knew the fight too well and didn't want to harm somebody.
@semi-automatickevin8167
@semi-automatickevin8167 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJinglejanglejingle nah its cause spears are widely considered to be the ultimate melee weapon, compared to swords and such. the spear master knew that if he couldnt hit musashi in those three hits, musashi was the better fighter because of how deadly and precise spears are
@twentyonetortas5921
@twentyonetortas5921 2 жыл бұрын
@@semi-automatickevin8167 wait I’m confused with your comment. how are you saying the Musashi is a better fighter if you’re saying spears are the more precise and deadly weapon?
@twentyonetortas5921
@twentyonetortas5921 2 жыл бұрын
What’s a Musashi? Is it that badass samurai?
@MrJinglejanglejingle
@MrJinglejanglejingle 2 жыл бұрын
@@twentyonetortas5921 I think its some form of raw fish?
@snowwhite7677
@snowwhite7677 Жыл бұрын
This would be better if you had an old man sitting on a throne, stroking his beard in the background.
@AdamBechtol
@AdamBechtol 11 ай бұрын
:p
@mephestopholes
@mephestopholes 11 ай бұрын
IDK why but this might be the funniest thing I've seen in a year. Kill Bill 2 came to mind.
@michaelbarnard8529
@michaelbarnard8529 6 ай бұрын
The laughing girl behind the camera is good enough.
@lancehobbs8012
@lancehobbs8012 3 ай бұрын
Just as some other dude is revealed to have the mark of the dragon tatoo
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea spearmanship required such cardio!! 🤣🏃🏻‍♂️💨
@leonlazlus9589
@leonlazlus9589 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jesse 👋
@tondo9669
@tondo9669 3 жыл бұрын
this is a 3 vs 1 battle so the spearmen must avoid being surrounded and must keep their distance
@Kenshin_Tran
@Kenshin_Tran 3 жыл бұрын
id imagine 1v 2< requires some strategy of movement regardless what weapon you hold
@terkelalgevind529
@terkelalgevind529 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kenshin_Tran Halberd go brrrrr like barbarian if i lived then i would be spinning through legions of romans like butter, (eating vegan and doing crossfit) kek
@TeoSarp
@TeoSarp 3 жыл бұрын
lol are you serious? ancient warfare is crazy, most of the "warriors" were strong and lasting, most of them were like christiano ronaldo, we got fatty and lazy with technology and industrialization.
@bariumselenided5152
@bariumselenided5152 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls and other games really don’t do justice to spears, I think. I’ve always thought of spears as just really weak weapons, only good for poking at people from behind a shield. But this dude gets in the mix, I’m really impressed. I also wish I could these sorts of things, they look so fun
@sletso1
@sletso1 2 жыл бұрын
Its because maybe you thought poking was a weak attack. I dont know im just a gamer who prefer spears
@smexijebus
@smexijebus 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls needs all the weapons to have weaknesses and trade-offs so as to make all them worth playing and trying out. The game would be awful if you could poke bosses once or twice and kill them, as happens to humans. They're trying to do justice to the gameplay, not realistic weapon lethality. I mean most shooters have regenerating health and people are bullet sponges.
@ThePhilosogamer
@ThePhilosogamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@smexijebus That might be what FromSoft though, but that's not actually how it worked out in practice (some weapon types in that series are objectively better than others), nor was it a goal worth pursuing in principle either. Nioh's existence is proof that you can balance weapons against one another without resorting to arbitrary numerical tradeoffs to justify their usage. And for those wondering, spears in that game are used more similarly to what you see in this video - swift and versatile - not, "really long rapiers" as they're often shown in games.
@smexijebus
@smexijebus 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePhilosogamer Nioh has no competitive multiplayer, the need for balancing is much much less restrictive. When all your players do is PvE, it doesn't matter how overpowered things are (to a certain extent) but when there's lots of PvP involved it becomes far more necessary to balance those out, less everyone use only that and all variety and fun (and thus playerbase) disappear as well. P.S. Two-handing spears in any FromSoft game changes the moveset and makes the spear much more versatile than 'a long rapier'. But if you use a shield you, well, use the shield. Like one would in real life, as well.
@allmightygir4865
@allmightygir4865 2 жыл бұрын
The Nioh series does spear pretty well. You couldn't really see it from this demonstration but realistically if you had minimal training and had to fight in a war during the time of sword and shield a spear would have been your best option. It gives you range and as you did see in the video, options.
@joejoelesh1197
@joejoelesh1197 3 жыл бұрын
Love the blood effect. Often when watching sparing video it is hard to see when and if a hit occurred. You have to rely on the combatants obviously calling their hits. Even if they are calling them making it clear to the opponent it is often unclear to outside viewer
@KjamLXX8
@KjamLXX8 2 жыл бұрын
One method is chalking the weapons, that way when someone is hit there is chalk left on their outfit to show where the hit occured.
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 2 жыл бұрын
@@KjamLXX8 But then you have to clean it after each round, no? Akin to paintball. At one point you'll be covered in paint.
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 2 жыл бұрын
It is akin to the videos that add hitmarks in Airsoft or the kill score you get in games.
@KjamLXX8
@KjamLXX8 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonatasAdoM Yes and No. If it has to be cleaned then it has to be cleaned and a damp cloth and quick wipe down is all it would take.
@Lightning_Lance
@Lightning_Lance 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future you can fight people's holograms and actually use lethal force. That'd be cool.
@joshsanders5263
@joshsanders5263 2 жыл бұрын
I read once a story about a famous spear master that was accused of having an affair with one of the wifes of a great empire's minister and found guilty by the emperor. The sentence for such a crime was prison for life. The emperor, knowing the reputation of the accused as the best master of the spear in the entire empire, decided to give him a chance: If he managed to defeat a platoon of 50 swordsmen soldiers alone in an arena, his crime would be forgiven. The spear master accepted the challenge. And in front of the audience of the arena, the fight left everyone perplexed, because even surrounded by the swordsmen, the master was doing very well and had already killed 20 of the 50 soldiers! But he was momentarily distracted and took hit in the belly. Even though he was bleeding, he kept fighting and still managed to kill 15 more soldiers before collapsing and being killed by the rest. The emperor couldn't understand why he made such an amateurish mistake when he was dominating the fight. Then the emperor looked at the direction the master was looking when he got distracted and saw the reason. The minister had slit his wife's throat, the same woman the spear master was having an affair with. That was the reason for the distraction. The emperor was extremely strict, but he was also fair. He then ordered his soldiers to take the minister and throw him into the arena, giving him the order to take the late master's spear and finish the fight in his place, as punishment for interfering in his punishment. The minister, crying and begging for forgiveness, took the spear and, despite being a competent swordsman, he was unable to handle the spear, which was customized and heavier than normal spears, and was quickly killed by one of the remaining soldiers.
@iorifori91
@iorifori91 2 жыл бұрын
That's me the last soldier
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 2 жыл бұрын
Can you give a reference to time and place of the incident. That was fascinating story of will and skill
@st.zahren5683
@st.zahren5683 2 жыл бұрын
the name of the master spearman? playboi carti
@blazzinga595
@blazzinga595 2 жыл бұрын
Fair ? WTF he sent 50 men to a death arena for his amusement. He would let the man who betrays his fellow citizen trust to go unharmed should he won . He sent the man whose honour was tainted to a certain death after he caught his wife cheating. And couldn't care less about the woman who started in the first place. That's some tyrant type of misconduct. I doubt it to be a true story but regardless the claim of a fair emperor is absurd.
@Jeff_189
@Jeff_189 2 жыл бұрын
@@st.zahren5683 average braindead carti fan
@KVCunknown
@KVCunknown 2 жыл бұрын
What I learned from this is that all the video games where a group of enemies attack you one at a time is actually totally realistic.
@chaosgyro
@chaosgyro 2 жыл бұрын
Even in real life, no one wants to play the tank.
@mitchmac3383
@mitchmac3383 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they didn't try to 360 surround him, triangle formation style. I'd guess 1 of the 3 swordsmen would eventually be able to find a gap and "kill" the spearman from behind 🤷‍♂️ interesting content for sure, though
@brammetje290
@brammetje290 2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchmac3383 This is why the spearman is constantly moving, especialy at the start, he is preventing them from getting around him. If you look closely as the direction he moves you can probably pick it up.
@arbre_mystique
@arbre_mystique 2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchmac3383 he isn’t giving them a chance to surround him
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI 2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchmac3383 A: like others said, he's deliberately avoiding that by moving B: you actually don't necessarily want to rush in at the same time, because in real life the "friendly fire" setting is always on.
@granatmof
@granatmof 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when I used to LARP. A single spear or other pole arm is quite powerful. People mock the "attack all at once" oversight in action sequences, but when the group doesn't have experience working together against one target and the target has experience about controlling the flow dynamics if the group, the single person can manipulate positioning in the battlefield to minimize simultaneous attacks, especially through flanking and charging lone people in such a way that causes the group to get in each other's way.
@nilskahle5863
@nilskahle5863 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I have seen LARP Veterans demolish groups of 7-8 people when they were surrounded. And they did not use a spear.
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 2 жыл бұрын
Only effective if there is enough space like this gym where the spearman can run around. On a crowded battlefield or inside a building, a spear is less wieldy. Plus, the swordsmen in this video do not have a shield.
@dabinhaler1337
@dabinhaler1337 2 жыл бұрын
yeah that white t shirt guy let the swordsmen down, guy never played a bit of dark souls pvp or wat
@thanorodd5663
@thanorodd5663 2 жыл бұрын
Not only in LARP, but in the real world, nobody wants to die. Attacking all together may neutralize the enemy, but at what cost? It's easy to see a movie or video game and think, "if they had just attacked together, they could have killed the guy!" from the perspective of a fictional drama where 'they' are just fodder for the cause. A real person thinks, "What if I go down with him?" and waits for a safe opening.
@Taurgis2
@Taurgis2 2 жыл бұрын
i do some SCA heavy armor fighting. and yeah. group tactics are important, but are hard to develop well. its why formation fighting is really popular. because its hard to communicate over the shouting and yelling. ive been both on the receiving end and offensive when fighting numbers. and the best advice i can usually give is to just force the enemy to work against themselves. and always appear crazier than your opposition.
@tarettime9392
@tarettime9392 2 жыл бұрын
There's a reason why throughout history the spear was the standard weapon for the foot soldier. Especially the lesser trained ones. It takes multiple skilled swordsmen to kill one semi trained person with a spear
@陈凯文-n1h
@陈凯文-n1h 2 жыл бұрын
It's mostly depends who's the person behind the weapon and conditions A good swordsman or spearman would know to not show of opening
@seasnow6073
@seasnow6073 2 жыл бұрын
@@陈凯文-n1h said like a true weirdo. Spear is always a main weapon throughout history of classic warfare. It gives good reach for footman or cavalry, while swords is not. Its real life and not some fantasy when u can cut anything with a sword under 1 sec
@tarettime9392
@tarettime9392 2 жыл бұрын
@@陈凯文-n1h I disagree somewhat while yes who's wielding what is important the reality is someone with minimal training with a spear will more often than not beat someone with a few years of training with a sword and someone with years of training with a spear will more often than not beat an expert with a sword
@陈凯文-n1h
@陈凯文-n1h 2 жыл бұрын
@@seasnow6073 never said sword where main weapons of units, just said it's depends who's better and what are the conditions
@seasnow6073
@seasnow6073 2 жыл бұрын
@@陈凯文-n1h dude, what u saying is subjective and not objective arguments. The one that attack first will have the upper hand
@mymartianhome
@mymartianhome 2 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of my kendo days. We used to fight one against two or three to learn tactics and awareness. The singleton needs to use mobility so that they only face one opponent at a time. The group need to be able to launch simultaneous assaults from different directions.
@MavrikUSMC
@MavrikUSMC 3 жыл бұрын
"2 swordsman and a sith lord vs a spearman" Would be a more accurate title. 🤣
@kellenknipp955
@kellenknipp955 3 жыл бұрын
Legendary
@THEINTERNETANOMALY
@THEINTERNETANOMALY 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment this is 💯💯
@dfcrest1418
@dfcrest1418 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@MaxUgly
@MaxUgly 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, this is so fake. Lightsaber would disintegrate the spear on contact, everyone knows that...
@alwari527
@alwari527 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaxUgly It's Beskar 🤣
@ryanhampson673
@ryanhampson673 2 жыл бұрын
Spears have been used longer than swords. They obviously give greater reach to a soldier but also they are cheaper to produce…It takes a lot of metal to make one sword, but the only metal on a spear is the spear head so you could make a few spearheads for the same amount of metal as one sword, and wood is usually always plentiful.
@Stop_Gooning
@Stop_Gooning 2 жыл бұрын
It's also easier to train somebody to be "basically competent" with a spear than it is to train them to the same level with a sword. If it takes _a really good_ swordsman to beat three average dudes with spears - and you could arm and train SIX competent spearmen for the same cost as one really good swordsman - then average dudes with spears are just the logical choice.
@spugelo359
@spugelo359 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stop_Gooning Except that's not how it works on larger scale... you can also arm swordsmen with a thing called shield. And it's fucking effective against arrow, that are far bigger problem than the puny guy in front of you with a pointy stick... which you can also protect from with that shield. Spears were the logical choice for cheap badly trained armies of peasants that don't matter if they die. Still effective weapon if they don't get fucked over by something... like arrows. If you can't afford a sword and shield, you can't afford proper armor either. Even if it wasn't for arrows, swords > spears at close range. Spears are great as long as you manage to keep your enemies at distance, but once they get close? You're fucked. With many soldiers to spare, getting close isn't "if", but when. Even Romans that invented deadly spear formations abandoned them in favor of sword and shield (and javelin, AKA small spear with better range).
@mweskamppp
@mweskamppp 2 жыл бұрын
@@spugelo359 The romans were an exception. Most antique armies preferred spears. Especially Alexanders greek. Swords were often for self defense or a backup weapon. Especially in medieval times. Sometimes bow and arrow were more important in other times they had an inferior role.
@bluemobster0023
@bluemobster0023 2 жыл бұрын
@@spugelo359 well here's the thing smart guy. The Roman's used spears as they advanced to break through sheilds and then they would change to the Gladius. But they also carried multiple spears since it really is an amazing weapon
@spugelo359
@spugelo359 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluemobster0023 Good job... you almost got it right. What they carried around was basically a javelin, a spear for throwing. Not for poking. You poke once and it breaks, not very good for poking weapon, now is it? Enemies did use proper 2 handed spears, meant for poking. But Romans already figured out how to defeat spears. Throw javelins, charge in with shields protecting from spears... and stay close so those spears become ineffective. And stab them with gladius... no much room for slashing in tight formations. Even when they preferred a weapon for poking, they went with the sword. Because it's short enough for close combat.
@qudavid1128
@qudavid1128 3 жыл бұрын
His movement and control with that spear is just beautiful to watch. Love this
@CastIronGinger
@CastIronGinger 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this and the blood effects made it easier to see, thank you! I’ve always loved the spear
@zes3813
@zes3813 11 ай бұрын
wrgg
@ericjohnson4877
@ericjohnson4877 3 жыл бұрын
I've geeked out and studied the geometry of 2vs1 and 3vs1 engagements. The idea in any case when you have the numerical advantage is to try to attack from widely different angles of approach. This puts the most stress on the defender's ability to ward off attacks. The objective is to try to create an angle of approach from the two attackers that is such that the defender can't really see and address both/all the angles at the same time. Eventually the hope is one of them can close in from a flank or from behind and strike a serious blow. The interesting thing is that if you consider everyone's mobility to be roughly equal, in a 2vs1 scenario, the two attackers can never really force the engagement from two widely different angles because the defender can retreat when the attackers are close, circle out to counter their efforts to come around on a flank, and if they both move to opposite flanks, he can quickly cross the line between them (given that there's enough distance between them and he moves quickly) and he can escape to make them have to form up and try again to engage him. It really takes a third attacker and a 3vs1 situation for the attackers to be able neutralize the defender's evasive maneuvering. The interesting thing in the video clip shown here is that with the three attackers, they don't really utilize their advantage at all by encircling the defender. They instead seem to stay grouped fairly close together in a line, which puts the least stress on the defender's ability to defend himself, because everything remains for the most part in front of him, within his peripheral vision. If you were to instead combine the efforts of two attackers to create two different angles of attack with a third attacker that is positioned behind the defender, blocking an uncontested avenue of retreat and limiting evasive movements in general, I think the spearman would be overwhelmed by the three separate angles of approach. The spear can be pretty effective transitioning from a forward facing exchange to a rearward facing exchange because either end of the weapon can strike a serious blow. Where the attackers can leverage an advantage is that they are able to threaten from three angles, meaning whichever two approaches the spearman has covered with the two tips of his spear, the third should be able to probe the spearman's defensive guard and force him to pivot, change guards, parry, anything that can open a new angle of attack for one of the other attackers. Anyways, I think this type of drill is great for developing skills, both for the attacking side that has the numbers advantage and for the defender. You have to move tactically and intelligently, but each of those movements can be isolated, identified, and practiced. Plus, the coordination of two or more attackers working together is a great drill for developing tactical awareness.
@shinyori
@shinyori 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what to say about that. One of the swordsman might "sacrifice" himself to immobilize the spear and it's game over for the sperman. Plus people don't jist drop dead when they are touched by the spear. It takes a lot of force to actually deadly pierce a body. If the spearman misses and the spear gets caught or stuccked for 1, 2 seconds, he is doomed. 2 vs 1 duels in a real life and death situation are very hard to pull off.
@Kannot2023
@Kannot2023 3 жыл бұрын
@@shinyori Or the spear can be stuck in an attacker. To kill someone you need to pierce clothes, armor and flesh
@jacobknox2380
@jacobknox2380 3 жыл бұрын
cardio or use guns! lol seriously though, to outmaneuver and survibe a real 3 on 1, youd better be able to keep moving those feet! fatigue equals death in a melee
@SlugSniffer73
@SlugSniffer73 3 жыл бұрын
Well that was a long way of saying nothing profound
@hsquirrel7407
@hsquirrel7407 3 жыл бұрын
What about 3 v 2. Starting in a position of 3 surrounded by 2 together
@ThatSomGuy
@ThatSomGuy 3 жыл бұрын
"Spears are the weapon for war. Swords are weapons to take a prisoner." -Miyamoto Musashi
@digimeth1216
@digimeth1216 3 жыл бұрын
"Naked man hiding in pantry, has ass in jam" - Lo Wang
@prefix253
@prefix253 3 жыл бұрын
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@alienlodejavu9504
@alienlodejavu9504 3 жыл бұрын
'we only need a French fries to kill our enemies' Bollywood director
@deeznutsenjoyer1967
@deeznutsenjoyer1967 3 жыл бұрын
@@alienlodejavu9504 "i enjoy deez nuts"- me
@nathanbruce1992
@nathanbruce1992 3 жыл бұрын
Musashi says swords are the weapons of the warrior in the Book of Five rings. He said theres a reason you call spearman spearman, archer an archer, while you call a swordsman a warrior He also said you should learn all of them. Idk where you are getting that quote from man, but definitely not his personal writings..
@rfv1903
@rfv1903 3 жыл бұрын
Wow , this dude is bad ass! Exceptional skill with the spear. And tactics on point versus multiple opponents.
@Byrenious
@Byrenious 3 жыл бұрын
All of their tactics were trash.
@AlphaQHard
@AlphaQHard 3 жыл бұрын
@@Byrenious Ok master jason 🤡
@Byrenious
@Byrenious 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaQHard doesn't take a master to realize that dragging your blade on the ground isn't the best idea
@allenzero1
@allenzero1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah fancy spins an dragging blades... Treating it like a game not giving a crap about afterblows an otherwise taking the sort of swings that get you hit like you don't care about your life... The problem with foam an lack of bruises is carelessness an fighting like a clown.
@step670
@step670 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure result will change in favor of multiple swordsmen after some practice. For now they look very confused, like it is their first time in this format. Teamwork and communication are bad. Spearman looks very confident, he definitely tried it before.
@joa8593
@joa8593 2 жыл бұрын
Each year, there's a demo match of naginata vs kendo that's fun to watch. The katana was never really used like this for a reason. Initially, it was a side arm for archers (archers vs. spearman would be a fun video LOL). Longer swords were used mainly by and to take down mounted cavalry. It became the main sword in the Edo period because of the limitation on sword lengths, by which time guns were already an established part of Japanese warfare. In other words, this was the length that the government figured was too short to be useful.
@Hideyoshi1991
@Hideyoshi1991 2 жыл бұрын
the katana was a side-arm and became a very formalized status symbol for the samurai(like sabres for officers in Europe until ww1) has nothing to do with the blade length being useless.
@switters8679
@switters8679 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hideyoshi1991 Read up on some history. Why was it chosen as a status symbol. What cultural impacts did the various wars have on the culture, and what laws were passed (hint hint hint hint hint) because of them. You sound like someone who really likes katanas and don't want them to be portrayed a way you feel is demeaning. Well, that is not a very intelligent way to look at it, and you are seemingly on the internet where all of this information is readily available. I feel embarrassed for you.
@Hideyoshi1991
@Hideyoshi1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@switters8679 m8, a katana is just an average sword. It became a status symbol because it clearly showed the rank of the one wearing it. Something which was very important in the rigid class system of the Edo period.
@quiknik22488
@quiknik22488 2 жыл бұрын
@@switters8679lol god damn 0 chill
@410cultivar
@410cultivar 6 ай бұрын
​@switters8679 it was chosen as a status symbol for the samurai because 1, they always had one(tachi) which was an excellent weapon for those on horseback. As the armies got larger, spears and guns became more popular, the tachi was shortened to better handel fighting with many men around. By the time the edo period rolled around they wanted everyone tonk ow who they samurai were, thus two swords were mandatory, the length had to do with non samurai being allowed swords, the length was regulated for them.
@Saberwulfy
@Saberwulfy 2 жыл бұрын
For those thinking that there is rivalry between spears and swords, in warfare the infantry equipment has always been spear, when the sword was introduced it was added and not replaced the spear. The probable order was a club; spear; spear + shield; spear + sword + shield.
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy 2 жыл бұрын
It's a stupid mentality promoted heavily by silly fantasy. If you faced an actual elite warrior from either Japan or medieval Europe, he'd most likely have a spear or other polearm in hand with a sword on his hip.
@danilooliveira6580
@danilooliveira6580 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheChiconspiracy depend on a thousand different factors. no one would carry a spear for self defense, and no one would equip footmen with expensive swords. if you are fighting heavily armored opponents you will want a mace or hammer (even Japanese samurai had their war clubs), in this a spear will do less than a sword that at least has some weight to it to ring some bells if you hit with enough force.
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy 2 жыл бұрын
@@danilooliveira6580 The average spear has a mass advantage over every type of sword but a greatsword... and if it was made of a hardwood haft, it will loose alot less energy and impart MUCH more energy than a flexible sword blade could ever do. The fact is that even after poleaxes and other polearms existed, heavily armored western knights still used spears with diamond cross sections on foot to good effect against each other, and samurai were using a te-yari that was sometimes barely longer than a katana for fighting indoors... all while wearing a katana on their hip.
@Jackson-sc8jp
@Jackson-sc8jp 2 жыл бұрын
depends a little on formation and time period, Romans for example used a short sword called a Gladius because the type of shield they used lent itself well to the army making a sort of turtle formation and poking through the cracks of the shell so to speak. the short sword was more maneuverable and easier to fit through the gaps, using a spear in that scenario would likely see people on your side getting accidentally stabbed, your range of motion being significantly reduced by the people around you, and the shaft might even get caught in awkward positions and break conversely, if you're gonna do a cavalry charge, you bet your ass they're using some kind of polearm for that. Reach is huge in attacking from horseback
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jackson-sc8jp Not really accurate. The Romans always had either a melee spear or a throwing spear that could also serve in melee. In most combat spears were likely used overarm which allows for fighting at very close range, allowing more power to be generated on the thrust and also avoiding the issues of hitting people behind you.
@russellcooke1542
@russellcooke1542 3 жыл бұрын
Great battle good to see everyone having a great time can see the friendship between competitors keep up the action well done spearman Han moo👊
@hanmoorang
@hanmoorang 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! I will go to walse next years with Spearman. Please say hello to Robert and Sam minchinton. And I look forward to meeting you. HanMoo!!
@russellcooke1542
@russellcooke1542 3 жыл бұрын
@@hanmoorang I will say hello for you looking forward to your visit Hanmoo
@krieger8825
@krieger8825 3 жыл бұрын
He was fighting Darth Samurai
@joshuabecton4746
@joshuabecton4746 3 жыл бұрын
They would usually have short swords on their sides, when the enemy would get close enough that the spear was no longer effective. Incredible display by the Spearman, and good effort from the swordsmen.
@tobiasrietveld3819
@tobiasrietveld3819 3 жыл бұрын
'when the enemy would get close enough that the spear was no longer effective' is always such a weird idea. As if the spearman can't walk backwards or sidestep to maintain distance (and attack a few more times while doing so). And if fixed in formation you'd just run in the spear of the second line.
@juliennbitt3376
@juliennbitt3376 3 жыл бұрын
A katana can cut through a wooden spear at close range; furthermore even metal.(unless high grade steel) which would mean the spear would weigh like five katanas... So yeah
@juliennbitt3376
@juliennbitt3376 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobiasrietveld3819 Katana is the best instrument of death. People respect their katanas like the sword was a person or member of the family.
@thelastkushbendr7091
@thelastkushbendr7091 3 жыл бұрын
@@juliennbitt3376 spear beats katana sorry fanboy
@juliennbitt3376
@juliennbitt3376 3 жыл бұрын
@@thelastkushbendr7091 agreed to disagree ****
@leyrua
@leyrua 2 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that I haven't seen spears implemented well in any medieval fighting game. It's always just the poke poke move, and maybe a sweeping one, which apparently vastly undersells the weapon's potential.
@Cocoabuelo04
@Cocoabuelo04 2 жыл бұрын
In new world u can throw it and use it as a vaulting pole lol.
@gamuhnerdu4759
@gamuhnerdu4759 2 жыл бұрын
Not unrealistic like 90% of a spear's use is limited to thrusts
@mromero675
@mromero675 2 жыл бұрын
Mount & Blade II, Bannerlord has the spears and polearms along with excellent game physics, and yes, you can use a lance on horseback.
@ThePrizrak0317
@ThePrizrak0317 2 жыл бұрын
Look at God of War Ragnorok
@blackearl7891
@blackearl7891 2 жыл бұрын
Nioh
@JCOwens-zq6fd
@JCOwens-zq6fd 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Though ideally the spearman would've been fighting in formation w/ other spearmen historically speaking which would've changed things immensely. A sword is just a sidearm. A backup weapon.
@captainobvious8037
@captainobvious8037 3 жыл бұрын
Right Give farmers a spear and teach them how to stick together, instead of fancy and difficult sword skills
@marc7817
@marc7817 3 жыл бұрын
No. Sword was not only a backup weapon.
@BalmungTaishou
@BalmungTaishou 3 жыл бұрын
Backup weapon indeed but not to a spear but to a uwi(Japanese longbow)
@jarlnils435
@jarlnils435 3 жыл бұрын
@@BalmungTaishou there are more weapons other than japanese longbows that need a backup weapon. Swords for most of history were backup weapons for spearmen. When you are in a shieldwall or hoblite phalanx and your spear breaks or when you are in a pike phalanx and the enemy has managed to get behind the pikes, you have to draw your sidearm. Which is a sword. Because swords are the easiest to carry at the side as a backup. The backup of your sword would be a dagger or knife.
@BalmungTaishou
@BalmungTaishou 3 жыл бұрын
@@jarlnils435 hm in the constraints of Japan's history the primary weapon of the samurai were bows,spears then uchigatana so yes everything else is a backup for the bow. Since it was quite honorable to call someones name and then shoot them when they faced you.
@carvis3290
@carvis3290 2 жыл бұрын
Great combat! Very Cool! Swords are oft portrayed in pop culture, but on the battlefield, companies of Spear (Yari) conscripts or trained militias were one of the most common front line soldiers in history. The spear is long, powerful and typically requires much less metal to produce on a mass scale. Training to be a novice with spear can be taught to larger groups than specialized, close combat arms. The stick is pretty universal, but techniques vary across the world. Also defensive formations are much stronger with long arms. See Phalanx, Schiltron, Pike Wall for breaking horse charges, etc.
@haroldcruz8550
@haroldcruz8550 2 жыл бұрын
Only the Roman army in history was able to effectively use the sword as their primary offensive weapon for a long time.
@haroldcruz8550
@haroldcruz8550 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribos2762 Yes but it was kinda a misnomer because yes initially the Roman army used spears but they transitioned into using swords. Of course there is a debate on that, I tend to agree to the side of the historians that the Romans did transitioned into using swords because more evidence tends to favor the said interpretation.
@gatocles99
@gatocles99 2 жыл бұрын
@@haroldcruz8550 The Romans' primary weapon was their shield. It was used offensively to bash and unbalance, and bind, the enemy, opening him up to the chops and stabs of the gladius. We don't see that in the movies, because it is not pretty... rather, it looks like a rugby scrum, with blood and guts and grown men screaming and pooping themselves.
@Stop_Gooning
@Stop_Gooning 2 жыл бұрын
Spears are also easier to teach people how to use. If you had to raise a militia from a village of peasants in a hurry and - for some reason - you had your choice of swords or spears, it would make more sense to train them to use spears.
@dustinakadustin
@dustinakadustin 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stop_Gooning exactly, spear training will consist of "face the enemy and start poking" vs sword training that is "face the enemy and swing a bit but not too much and remember to keep the edge aligned and keep your shield up at all times and don't overswing" 😂
@RoseKB22
@RoseKB22 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding the subtitles! It was super helpful for those of us who don't speak Korean. These videos are so fun, not to mention educational. Thanks so much for sharing these videos!
@ReverendMeat51
@ReverendMeat51 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese
@force83x
@force83x 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm its Japanese
@scott6291
@scott6291 3 жыл бұрын
As a Korean, I confirm that the people involved are Koreans and they speak Korean
@RoseKB22
@RoseKB22 3 жыл бұрын
@@scott6291 Thank you!
@Hexra_
@Hexra_ 2 жыл бұрын
In every single imperial Chinese, Korean or Japanese drama that took place in wartime era, I've always loved their spearmen tactics. Their style was a lot less crude than the gladiatorial spear techniques which I hate. Woldo, Guandao and Naginata all look absolutely beautiful and their combat style even more. This showcase is really great to see the polearm being used so effectively
@umbraviventem
@umbraviventem Жыл бұрын
The reason why the Asian spear tactics look better than the western is because the people who are doing the research for those tactics and looking for people to be trained actually want it done right. Where as in western media they just want it to look flashy. Not understanding that with the spear specifically the effective use of one is WAY more flashy and entertaining than the bullshit they make actors do. Western media also heavily leans into the "poke people with this weapon" aspect of a spear and ignore the fact that the weapon can also slash and bludgeon people. A perfect example of this was in The Last Samurai when Tom Cruise is told by the samurai that the spear is not just for thrusting, and he is shown how to disarm and knock someone down in a single elegant move. Outside of a documentary that is one of the few times I have seen a spear used properly in western media.
@MagMar-kv9ne
@MagMar-kv9ne Жыл бұрын
Yeah but i hate how the chinese use the Spear, always holding it in the middle and using it more like an axe or sword. They do not use the distance of the spear at all.
@Hexra_
@Hexra_ Жыл бұрын
@@MagMar-kv9ne yeah its less effective in swordfights since some of them use one handed spear techniques unlike Pikes and Halberds that aren't meant to be since they're very long, not really the point of what makes it a spear. But man, the Chinese use those short metal spears (Qiangs) and they look absolutely cool to me, especially the way some of them have their poles designed like a dragon
@AriUgwu
@AriUgwu 3 жыл бұрын
The quality of content almost makes me wish it required a short interview before watching. So many secrets here. The footwork shouldn’t be taken for granted. The tactics of the spear are top notch. You know it’s Budo when increasing opponents makes your life easier. The fact the swordsmen didn’t trip or strike each other by accident is a credit to their training. So good. It’s philosophy in motion. I hope we have another resurgence of Budo in the west. With MMA it seems to leave you sore. With Budo you leave having lived a dozen lives and died a thousand times. With MMA you are happy to have won. With Budo you will meditate on what was lost, and if the cost can be justified. I’m beyond grateful for having this training before going into service. It saved lives and allowed a type selfless service that is difficult to describe. Shinshin Shigan is a feeling I hope many more people are introduced to through Budo. Thanks for letting me ramble.
@gurugurukuma
@gurugurukuma 2 жыл бұрын
if you want to watch the full footage, check their main channel Hogu Couple.
@ndyoyo1905
@ndyoyo1905 2 жыл бұрын
literally anyone can do MMA whereas Budo takes REAL training
@cryptobungus5778
@cryptobungus5778 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you fight a trained mma fighter and post a video.
@AriUgwu
@AriUgwu 2 жыл бұрын
With my sword or my spear? I don’t think that would be a fair fight. Did you watch the video?
@gurugurukuma
@gurugurukuma 2 жыл бұрын
@@AriUgwu i think he is referring to that NDYoyo guy.
@jonathanwelchbmnc7615
@jonathanwelchbmnc7615 3 жыл бұрын
Told a buddy of mine about how good the spear is. I will be sharing this with him.
@phantommaggotxxx
@phantommaggotxxx 3 жыл бұрын
There's a really good video by Lindybeige 'spears are better than swords'
@jonathanwelchbmnc7615
@jonathanwelchbmnc7615 3 жыл бұрын
@@phantommaggotxxx thanks for the recommendation. I just watched the short version. Really enjoyed it. 👍
@malakatan3235
@malakatan3235 3 жыл бұрын
I always halberd guy but odd games always use sword
@sillymesilly
@sillymesilly 3 жыл бұрын
@@phantommaggotxxx wayyyyy better. Every standing army prioritized spear
@RealYRM
@RealYRM 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an exercise where the swordsmen focus on one handed deflect/sidestep + grab the spear haft, especially when the spearman is outnumbered. When they were able to get inside, grabbing the spear might've been game changing.
@cleanserofnoobs4162
@cleanserofnoobs4162 2 жыл бұрын
The spear was like the AK-47 of ancient times. Easy to make and use, and covers a large array of sinarios. It might not be the farthest ranged weapon, but it can be used for a good distance. It can only be beat fairly by either another spear or a bow (sniper).
@redace4821
@redace4821 2 жыл бұрын
Or really close range. At that range a Knife is better than a Spear.
@cleanserofnoobs4162
@cleanserofnoobs4162 2 жыл бұрын
@@redace4821 True. Assuming you manage to get close enough, a knife can be beneficial. But the shaft of the spear can be used to deflect or melee a close opponent. But yes, it won't be anywhere near as deadly or effective as a knife in that scenario. The main strategy of being a Spearman is to keep your enemy locked away at a distance, which is rather easy to do. Even an inexperienced Spearman can hold his own against a swordsman that is experienced.
@jerkchickenblog
@jerkchickenblog 2 жыл бұрын
lol there was no 'ak-47' of ancient times. that's hilarious. unless you mean a whole fusillade of archers. that would be the 'ak-47 of ancient times' lol. and ak-47s aren't any good at distance, the spray is too large
@josippenezic7106
@josippenezic7106 2 жыл бұрын
​@@redace4821 Remember that there are line of spears and few lines deep . One from line behind you can defend you . Back line used towing spears witch bend after they hit so enemy cant use it again ... And better quality spearman had short swords , shield ,clubs ,towing weapons ,"elite" spearman had heavy armor ...
@Erideah
@Erideah 2 жыл бұрын
In non-military scenarios where armor would be light or non-existant, I'd add a handful of bo-shuriken or throwing knives; things you'd pair with a sword for self defense for just this type of scenario
@Boywellesley13
@Boywellesley13 Жыл бұрын
I'm a viking age re-enactor and have done both sides of 1 spearman(with and without shield) vs 2 sword/axe and shield. Shields make a huge difference as it makes it much easier to deflect the spear and get past the point. A spearman with a shield is also very different as although they have less control of the spear with only one hand they can now block and attack at the same time. In all my experiences having shields involved puts the spearman at quite a disadvantage, It is quite easy to deflect/trap/parry the spear when you have a shield and a weapon making it impossible for the spearman to keep the tip on target, you then just close in a quick and close as possible. Any other 2 handed weapon is the worst is against spears, dual wielding is better, Shield and weapon is best.
@sharp7j
@sharp7j Жыл бұрын
Shields are the most OP weapon based on my LARP exp. Put a spike on a shield and I would pick it over any other single weapon in a duel to the death hands down.
@umbraviventem
@umbraviventem Жыл бұрын
shield is the ultimate enemy of the spear. It essentially removes all of the non-thrusting utility (99% of the spears utility) a spear has and turns it into a deflectable weight. Part of what makes the spear hard to master is mastering how the weight is distributed as you manipulate the weapon and your opponent. If your opponent can take a precise movement (like a thrust with a swipe to knock you out) and just deflect and push that spear away, it will throw the spearman off balance.
@qoki2244
@qoki2244 Жыл бұрын
Cant you just easily go for the legs
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын
@@sharp7j bc you all are playing pretend and make belief. if you hardkick a shield you easily fk up the arm behind it and stagger the user and you are quite safe from retaliation; same if you grab and fall rotated you break the arm, easily. there is also a ton off technics especially with axes to make a shield a handicap for the user more than an asset. shields are amazing, but they depend a lot on multiple people are fighting together or fighting people who are either unwilling or unknowing about how to counter it. a LOT off weapons you need to sacrifice something to win, as obv you are killing vs losing a hand example. besides neither the sword users nor the spear user here got any clue what they are doing, they look like random schoolkids having fun with sticks ...
@jessenelson8106
@jessenelson8106 Жыл бұрын
Shield is the ultimate weapon, developed to beat the stick, but ultimately struggles against missiles. Still used for riot suppression today.
@Amoryl
@Amoryl 2 жыл бұрын
for the most part the spearman does an excelent job controling the movement of his opponants. the lightsaber really needed to learn to commit, unfortunately when they finally did they were too far away from support. pack tactics are key, you have to flank your opponant to open them up and negate that reach, but the spearman will, as he did several times, appear to open himself up to a flank to draw one too far away from the support of the others and make them an easy target. that time he was locked in a corner would have gone very differently for him if they were working more as a team than as individuals who happened to be together.
@juliahenriques210
@juliahenriques210 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. In my experience, against three coordinated swords a short spear is toast. If they pressured more, the spearperson would have had to improve, being more aggressive and feinting more, but they would have had the edge. When I trained, if you didn't finish each sword in three or four tempos, the others would get you.
@Stop_Gooning
@Stop_Gooning 2 жыл бұрын
The spear really comes into its own when you have a bunch of people using them in a line - especially if they're covered in a way that you can't flank.
@FinnMcRiangabra
@FinnMcRiangabra 2 жыл бұрын
Nonsense. This was not a real demonstration. Swordsman parries the spear, rushes forward, kills the spearman. The people with fake swords in this clip have no idea how to fight against a spear. They do not position their swords correctly to parry a spear thrust. And any other attack by a spear takes more time than the equivalent sword attack. So, parry the spear thrust, rush up, and kill the spearman. Simple as.
@Stop_Gooning
@Stop_Gooning 2 жыл бұрын
@@FinnMcRiangabra I think there's still value to be gained by watching a bunch of amateurs flailing around: it lets you see the innate advantages or disadvantages of the weapon in the absence of personal skill or experience.
@periculum69
@periculum69 2 жыл бұрын
@@FinnMcRiangabra You are absolutely correct on tactics. I've seen other demonstrations that I liked better where it had people unfamiliar with using spears face off against skilled swordsmen who had never faced spears before. I'd love to see a demonstration where everyone knew what they were actually doing, but this level of mutual unfamiliarity with spears seemed to balance the playing field well. And they learned together that the correct tactics were exactly as you described. You had to get within the spear's reach and then you had the advantage. But that is still easier said than done. Even after they learned that, they would still fail to execute it and be "killed" more than half the time. Maybe they could have improved with practice, but again the spearmen were also learning and could have improved with practice. You are absolutely correct about what tactics to use, but I'd hardly say it's that simple like a sword should always win. The extra reach from the spear is still definitely an advantage in its favor.
@cade5792
@cade5792 3 жыл бұрын
Great display of skill from the spearman. Great mobility and aim. However, the swordsmen looked uncoordinated. They all looked like they were waiting for their 1v1 moment. Didn't capitalize on any extreme range spear thrusts, no trying to bind/bat the spear, and seemed very uncomfortable in general. Great video!
@iamtheteapot7405
@iamtheteapot7405 3 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but this seems like more of a practice challenge for the spearmen, I doubt the swordsman were really trying to push their advantage.
@cade5792
@cade5792 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamtheteapot7405 I would disagree. If that were the case, then the exercise would have only had 2 combatants on the mat at any given time. As funny as it may sound, I do indeed have experience fighting against and with spears in armored combat, both in a single combatant setting and in a massive battle. Look up Eyes of the Dragon, Great Western War 2021 for an idea of what I'm talking about. Fighting alone and fighting with others is definitely a different skill set, but not by much. If they trained more and had someone dedicated to fouling his spear, they could overwhelm him, perhaps taking 1 casualty consistently.
@iamtheteapot7405
@iamtheteapot7405 3 жыл бұрын
@@cade5792 I think you either completely missed my point or you are responding to someone else.
@cade5792
@cade5792 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamtheteapot7405 I understood your point. This drill is indeed focused on the spearman. I do not think the swordsmen were holding back by agreement or ruleset. I'm not doubting their skill or experience. I wanted to highlight that their previous fighting experience did not prepare them for this exercise. While, for the spearman, this exercise was basically a series of three 1v1 fights in very quick succession because of how the swordsmen chose to approach the fight. It is called "How many swordsmen [are needed] to fight a spearman" after all.
@iamtheteapot7405
@iamtheteapot7405 3 жыл бұрын
@@cade5792 Ok then we respectfully disagree.
@mollofistraye5164
@mollofistraye5164 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely lost it at "trauma" HAHAHAH I NEED MORE THIS IS TOO GOOD
@tonglu3699
@tonglu3699 2 жыл бұрын
This video is a wonderful demonstration why half of human warfare throughout history was about trying to drive your enemy away with a pointy stick, and the other half was about tossing said stick into your enemy's face.
@captainnyet9855
@captainnyet9855 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, and that's only because we set the time limit to "history"
@tonglu3699
@tonglu3699 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainnyet9855 We are watching a video of three swordsmen vs a spearman. What’s your point?
@Toutong_
@Toutong_ Жыл бұрын
@@captainnyet9855 Pointy stick was one of the first weapon ever invented. It evolved into the spear and kept its best weapon status until good firearms were available.
@el_famoso_albatar
@el_famoso_albatar Жыл бұрын
@@Toutong_ *bow enters the chat*
@엘제-k9u
@엘제-k9u 10 ай бұрын
@@el_famoso_albatar Ah, the ones that launch tiny spears balanced with feathers
@MrFox-ip3jf
@MrFox-ip3jf 3 жыл бұрын
His strategy of switching at the placement of his weapon works really well. They got used to him holding it. And now he drags it. Now they have to plan on the spot.
@taintedmyth0s636
@taintedmyth0s636 2 жыл бұрын
When the boss switches to their second phase xD
@andriosz
@andriosz 2 жыл бұрын
Dragging forward should be illegal. Hard to do with a real spear on a ground.
@greenirez2798
@greenirez2798 3 жыл бұрын
And people always question me when I use polearms in D&D. Figures like Sky Lance in Hero and Guan Yu in Romance of Three Kingdoms always struck me as more skilled and awesome warriors than your typical sword and board fighters.
@takingbacktoxic7898
@takingbacktoxic7898 3 жыл бұрын
In early editions of the AD&D game, pole arms and spears did have advantages especially at lower levels of play, as the longer weapon always won initiative in the first engagement between two opponents.
@KoryLunaa
@KoryLunaa 2 жыл бұрын
I mean if we're talking 5e, suprised it isnt the other way around A longsword in 5e doesnt have access to the Polearm Master feat, especially when combined with the Sentinel feat, is an an extremely effective combo A normal longsword and shield combo is kinda ehhh in 5e comapred to that Though this is assuming your willing to take these feats over say another like Great weapon Master combined with a Grewtsword or Battleaxe or an Abilty Score Improvement
@joshuabrant3487
@joshuabrant3487 2 жыл бұрын
using it d&d is weird because how often are you fighting in an open field vs in a cavern a castle etc
@greenirez2798
@greenirez2798 2 жыл бұрын
@@KoryLunaa yea polearm master is my go to feat for lvl 4. I’ve been fortunate enough to have been able to convince my last few DMs to allow us a free starting feat at character creation, so my Goliath Paladin, Dragonborn Barbarian and Bugbear Fighter have all been able to start with Polearm Master from the get go so I can utilize the lvl 4 asi for strength or sentinel.
@KoryLunaa
@KoryLunaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@greenirez2798 Yer, Polearm Master is overall a solid feat Bruh I love free feat house rules, I've implemented in my games and all it's done is make my games more interesting and the players have more fun, nice that you can find DMs who also do that rule
@reallifeengineer7214
@reallifeengineer7214 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video a lot. Thank you. 😊 Had the swordsmen synchronized their attack literally at the same time, they would have had the upper hand. But all they did was moving their formation with the spearman to avoid the spearman achieving flank position and turn into a 1-on-1 battle. A 3-on-1 battle is no good, if the 3 aren’t attacking at the same instant. Kudos to the spearman though. Definitely fighting smart. Trying to break up the 3-on-1 advantage and turn it into quick individual 1-on-1’s.
@TarrenHassman
@TarrenHassman 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely noticed the lack of coordinating movement from the swordsmen, but it’s impressive that they would have needed to be skilled in formational movement in order to take down the spearman. The definitely tried to coordinate attacks a little, just not very much or well
@reallifeengineer7214
@reallifeengineer7214 3 жыл бұрын
@@TarrenHassman Unfortunately, in a formation of spearman vs samurais, I think the spearman formation wins. Samurai side would need to weed down the spearman formation with archery first. This is just my speculation though. I don’t imagine a formation of centurion winning against phalanx. Unless flanking maneuver. But that gets us into another rabbit hole quick.
@TarrenHassman
@TarrenHassman 3 жыл бұрын
@@reallifeengineer7214 100% I meant that the 3 swordsmen need high knowledge of flanking and coordination tactics to even potentially beat the spearman. Just mentioning that even if their tactics weren’t the best, needing such a high level of tactics to win 3 v1 really puts the power of spears into context
@reallifeengineer7214
@reallifeengineer7214 3 жыл бұрын
@@TarrenHassman Ah. I see what you mean. Yes. I agree wholeheartedly.
@markrcca5329
@markrcca5329 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. But unless the swordsmen keep a close formation, it's very hard to coordinate a simultaneous attack. I'm not sure why, but it's some kind of instinct, to wait until the spear is finished with one of your friends, before you feel its a good moment to attack him.
@johnathant6735
@johnathant6735 Жыл бұрын
It was very skillful how the spearman continued to shuffle and flank the group. Kept them all in a single line so he could not be surrounded.
@mindofthelion712
@mindofthelion712 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you can see and hear how much fun they're having in this
@ericrecano8557
@ericrecano8557 3 жыл бұрын
I recently just found this channel-all the practitioners have good skill but that Spearman is exceptional-it does help that the spear is the ‘king of melee’ weapons but when out in the hands of a real expert it makes for a huge challenge for the other combatants. I loved how the spearman prevented from getting flanked or surrounded. Great channel!
@Drewer222
@Drewer222 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly one of the best videos I've seen in a cool minute, it's very interesting seeing how each weapon is actually used in combat.
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 Жыл бұрын
*Laughs out loud!* This is great in the first place, but the edits make it even more fun! Suddenly, I want a spear. ;)
@Sijilos
@Sijilos 3 жыл бұрын
Looks great when he snaps the spear straight to the swordsmans. I can't imagine dozens of spears lined up. Aaaand music was a killer! Definitely suscribing!
@FingerSpazm
@FingerSpazm 2 жыл бұрын
There's a reason spears are the ultimate melee weapon and always have been throughout warfare. Wood is cheap and making shafts is easy! You only need tiny bit of metal at the end. Great for mass production! And the range meant that even inexperienced fighters could kill or injure a much more skilled opponent using a sword before they could even get to them. Many ancient battles were won by relatively untrained commoners with spears! It's like how guns beat all melee weapons, range is a huge factor!
@gozer87
@gozer87 3 жыл бұрын
Love the squelch sound effect! It's tough to take on a good spearman when they have room to run.
@blooperman1997
@blooperman1997 3 жыл бұрын
True enough, but when one of you is pretty much guaranteed to get shanked, which one is going first?
@esrohm6460
@esrohm6460 2 жыл бұрын
the wild thing is with this is that thanks to the spear caparison you don't realize that a shinai is stupendously long. if you hold one and swing it around your range is massive but they look so tiny here
@wolfgangritter9277
@wolfgangritter9277 3 жыл бұрын
Fun to watch. I come from a different fencing system and I would have handled the weapons and general movement differently. As the swordsman I probably would have tried to close the distance and get into a bind between sword and spear for a better control of the spearman's movements. But all in all, the spearman showed good knowledge on controlling the distance and avoiding to face his opponents all at once - very clever.
@psychocomytic9778
@psychocomytic9778 3 жыл бұрын
For sure, lack of coordinated attacks was the big reason swords took such hard losses. But they missed some big opportunities to trap the Spearman and his weapon.
@VarnaSaga
@VarnaSaga 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the term "divide and conquer" is the strategy the spearman did well in this video otherwise he would have easily been overwhelmed being outnumbered.
@cjcj7387
@cjcj7387 3 жыл бұрын
french foil, spanish rapier and dagger user here. 15yrs exp. 1v1 you still would have been killed pretty easily to the spearman. Maybe with spanish rapier and dagger you could do better as spanish rapier has a lot more range. but foil and epee. No. the second you try to "close the distance" is the second you "fall on the enemy's spear"
@Helldog117
@Helldog117 3 жыл бұрын
In a fight against multiple opponents hit and run and circling tactics tend to work best to divide and conquer the enemy. with a spear you can do this and they won’t even be able to touch you
@toddellner5283
@toddellner5283 3 жыл бұрын
No matter what system you do you have to have darned near perfect distance and timing to fight with a sword against a spear or polearm
@random-unbreaded-commentor
@random-unbreaded-commentor 3 жыл бұрын
The "you died" at the end sent it for me. Loved this
@NIGHTMAREDEVASTATOR
@NIGHTMAREDEVASTATOR 2 жыл бұрын
the screams suit perfectly with the music. the effects are a nice addition and the rules are simple and effective. i need more of these awesome videos, great work
@kurochi89
@kurochi89 2 жыл бұрын
This is hilarious to watch. They had to have had a lot of fun doing this. Spears were cheap to make and doesn't require a great amount of skill to be used effectively which is why they were used so much in history. Great demonstration to the advantages that a spear had.
@claudemaggard7162
@claudemaggard7162 2 жыл бұрын
No spears gave the user more range like artillery does on the battlefield. That is about it all summed up for you. Used in formations made it pretty lethal.
@Jonic_P
@Jonic_P 3 жыл бұрын
Keeping a low guard was an interesting play with the spear. Besides "hand snipes", I've seen a lot of spars ended with someone make a sudden attack on the legs. With the spears reach, and the fact most of them were employing high guards, going for the leg is a good strategy. Now considering things like Italian and German Swordplay etc. does employ some low guards, that interplay could be interesting... But considering my own experience with how unpredictable spear fighting already is (with how quickly you can change grips and can throw it at almost anytime)... It would still be difficult as hell to fight with a sword 😂
@OverSooll
@OverSooll 3 жыл бұрын
Finally something real with weapons, the spearman is a real master !
@justsomeswordkid1630
@justsomeswordkid1630 3 жыл бұрын
yes until the end where he didnt kept the enemy´s at distance. i dont really understand why he stoped running in the end like it would have been a victory if he didnt let himself get cornered and i dont understand why he let his guard down at 4:29
@imadegenerate9867
@imadegenerate9867 3 жыл бұрын
@@justsomeswordkid1630 Out of stamina maybe
@justsomeswordkid1630
@justsomeswordkid1630 3 жыл бұрын
@@imadegenerate9867 he didnt look very exhausted
@golgothatheend
@golgothatheend 3 жыл бұрын
@@justsomeswordkid1630 There was another match earilier on, with two swordsmen vs spearman. He was running two matches, trying not to get outflanked, so I'd assume he was indeed exhausted by that point.
@tyronekim3506
@tyronekim3506 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call shinai a real weapon, but it was interesting to watch.
@EduardoBenfield
@EduardoBenfield 2 жыл бұрын
When the last swordsman throw the sword and run, I almost choked from laughter ... he was dead and he knew it... thanks for this video!
@poetry8888
@poetry8888 Жыл бұрын
That fromsoft ending was classic. So fun. You earned that like and it was very educative to see how powerful the spear really is
@TenchiBushi
@TenchiBushi 3 жыл бұрын
YOu make me wish I live in your commuting area or at the very least a distant train trip away. I want to experiment with some techniques and tactics! Greetings from Aomori, Japan!
@KoaStudio
@KoaStudio 3 жыл бұрын
Aomori! Iine, been there a few times while I was living in Oodate. Tanoshikatta ne!
@bobrovs1
@bobrovs1 2 жыл бұрын
When we played same games best swordsmen tactic was formation line relatively close each other (and advance to spearman holding line): spearman hits (maybe) one swordsman, but others counterattack and win in most cases. Otherwise spearman can charge each swordsman individually and win each charge due to the advantage in the length of the weapon (as shown).
@gregbrown3082
@gregbrown3082 2 жыл бұрын
But much more reliable is the tried and true strategy of waiting for your opponent to die. All you have to do is be younger... And I'd say you've got this one in the bag.
@p.o.d.t
@p.o.d.t Жыл бұрын
oh my god you are a fucking genius@@gregbrown3082
@nekosaiyajin8529
@nekosaiyajin8529 11 ай бұрын
@@gregbrown3082 Not true, since it's commonly known that the waiting strategy's main winning condition isn't age at all, but the ammount of food and water avaiable to each fighter. One of the fighters could be 20 years older than the other, if he had more food and water avaiable he would still win. Although, I must say, that if the hunger and thirst variables weren't a factor in this strat, and all we were left with was age to determine the winner, you sir, would for sure carry no losses against anyone in this comment section. Furthermore I must also insist that, even if thirst and hunger were considered, and there was no food avaiable but plenty of water to both fighters, you would most definitely still hold the winning record.
@BluntedBaboon
@BluntedBaboon 3 жыл бұрын
It seems in this sort of exercise a spearman gains a lot of benefits thru it being a practice / dummy session. I don't think you could really aggressively push a spear around the ground like that, and the durability of a spear comes into question if it is parried with a sword.
@petergoge2072
@petergoge2072 2 жыл бұрын
No. It's almost impossible to hack a spear in two with a sword.
@JeremiahPTTN
@JeremiahPTTN 2 жыл бұрын
Spear shafts were always a dense hard wood. Very strong and would require several hacks in the same spot to get through with the sharpest of swords.
@Sentient.A.I.
@Sentient.A.I. 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeremiahPTTN Yeah but if the 3 surrounded him there would be a swordsman likely injured or dead. Also these swordsman did not have shields which allowed several swordsmen to charge a lone spear user hacking at him from the safety of the shield.
@KyranFindlater
@KyranFindlater 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sentient.A.I. you think shields help all that much? Your legs and groin get stabbed a long while you protect your torso and head with the shield. you go down for the fight, but live to fight another day (maybe). Ancient greek combat was all about spear and shield, but the shield only gets you so far! It's also very specific to fighting with older soldiers close together. A swordsman with a shield often means you end up with a shorter sword too, which doesn't help.
@mikeduff2070
@mikeduff2070 2 жыл бұрын
the spear showed it had little durability when the guy had time to just put the tip back on.
@hardstylelife5749
@hardstylelife5749 Жыл бұрын
So the “broom technique” is the ultimate supreme attack, noted. Jokes aside that was most interesting; very cool to see how the spearman changed his tactic from one match to the next. I would be most interested to see more test with different swordsman and spearman, so to see more scenarios. Great video
@awenoldschwatzanegga
@awenoldschwatzanegga 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting indeed. But without fear of being impaled, or proper armor to slow some movement, the effect of the spear is greatly diminished in a practice exercise. Love the video though!
@tranquilclaws8470
@tranquilclaws8470 2 жыл бұрын
Armor doesn't actually impair movement much at all.
@ChiloeYOMIH
@ChiloeYOMIH 2 жыл бұрын
@@tranquilclaws8470 depends on the type, if you were running around with some enviormental abuse abomination of iron plates for armor it would slow you
@b.h.abbott-motley2427
@b.h.abbott-motley2427 3 жыл бұрын
In his 1626 book, Richard Peeke claimed to have used a makeshift quarterstaff with sharp point to defeat three Spaniards armed with rapier & dagger. George Silver thought the short staff, a 8-9ft spear with a point on each end & stout enough to give powerful blows, had the odds against two opponents armed with swords & daggers. Those historical examples suggest three was about the number of folks with swords required to defeat someone with a spear on average. (Peeke didn't think the odds were in his favor in that fight he managed to win.)
@christopherknorr2895
@christopherknorr2895 3 жыл бұрын
Bear in mind also that many of the wins you would get in that match up would see you totally unharmed at the end, ready for the next fight, while even 3v1 the swordsmen are likely to take losses against you even when they win.
@cccaaawww8685
@cccaaawww8685 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s my analysis of the entire thing. 1 the spearman does appear quite skilled and using the spears range to manipulate their movement to isolate targets . 2 I found the swordsmen to be hesitant to attack or move which allowed easy hits to be passed up.For example when the spearman makes a large thrust to hit another sword they hold their guard instead of running in to kill the foe. 3 I see that these are kumdo trained swordsmen which puts them at a disadvantage if you compare them to HEMA.HEMA it is common for two heavily armored foes to grab one another’s blade in a counter.In here I see no such attempt. 4 and final the swing attacks done by the spearman would seldom penetrate any armor so I would not count those hits. If you think I made an error in my judgement please do tell me and thanks for reading.
@notanonymous3976
@notanonymous3976 2 жыл бұрын
they might be practicing unarmored.. but i agree. the swordsman just let the spearman run circles around him when they should be the one causing him stress and surrounding the spearman
@edk488
@edk488 2 жыл бұрын
One correction - this is the korean variant of sword fighting, called "kumdo". And all of the participants are korean
@cccaaawww8685
@cccaaawww8685 2 жыл бұрын
@@edk488 thank you I thought it was kendo I shall make that edit
@thoyo
@thoyo 2 жыл бұрын
pre-WWII Kendo, grappling was an essential skill. Unfortunately, few schools incorporate it now, giving many HEMA styles a big advantage.
@cccaaawww8685
@cccaaawww8685 2 жыл бұрын
@@thoyo I did not know that. Thanks for that nugget of knowledge.
@kamille286
@kamille286 2 жыл бұрын
not gonna lie, this video was way more entertaining than I thought it would be, I thought it would be very confusing following what was happening, but the subtitles help a lot. Good job
@sammyli9456
@sammyli9456 3 жыл бұрын
Training like this is the real practice for an active fight and help us improve the potential skills, as there is no rule. I love to watch this VDO and any similar one. 🙏 3:06 so funny 😆😆😆 ((but it is the real case🙏 !!!))
@michealhuff2299
@michealhuff2299 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 43 and have practiced WuShu for almost 30 years. I am immersed in the martial arts world. I’ve never once had to use my knowledge with a spear, soft sword, broad sword, staff, or ANY weapons forms in real life. This is not practical knowledge 🤷🏻‍♂️. Spears and swords are no concealable, so pretending like being good enough to apply these techniques practically is moot and pointless if you expect to one day use it in real life. As a Chan Chien Northern Stylist who’s weapon of choice is the spear (like most snake stylists) I am very proficient with a WuShu spear. It serves zeros purpose in my life outside of WuShu/Kung Fu. I get that realistic training leads to realistic results....but in reality, how many of videos are on World Star where a dude pulls out a straight sword while in a fight? I just feel that if you’re gonna spend time training for a realistic situation, then you think realistically 🤷🏻‍♂️and in reality, on the streets, you’re going to be defending yourself against a gun or a knife. Train practically to defend yourself against THESE weapons. See, I don’t have a backpack big enough to conceal a 6.5 foot long staff with a pointy tip🤣🤣🤣I do however have pockets that can hold a pistol
@michealhuff2299
@michealhuff2299 3 жыл бұрын
What I’m saying is, if you’re practicing martial arts purely for practical application in realistic situations, think realistically about the situations you may find yourself in. If you’re practicing ancient weapons forms for self defense you’re practicing for the wrong reason. These are weapons of war, not self defense
@sammyli9456
@sammyli9456 3 жыл бұрын
@@michealhuff2299 ...🙏 Thanks so much for your valuable comments. I very much like to see a variety of aspects on the same topic. So, your comments are impressive to me. - I do not have much experience in real fights without rules ; but accidentally I had been a couple of street fights where I felt my skills were poor. BTW, one of the said fights dragged me to the local police station; and I felt so bad and promised to myself I would not be in any fight (even a barking fight/ debate fight) again. - Now I am just a u-tube watcher and have fun spending time to watch the new comers in the martial arts field. - The world has changed a lot; in that most martial art practitioners nowadays are trying to beat each other in the cage like we saw from the action movies during our teenage. - They practice martial arts for real fights ; but they can never know how each real street fight will impact on their lives. The loser suffering injured from their martial art application will ambush them. A person I knew was stabbed behind in the toilet when he was peeing. It was a tragedy. - Despite my full impression on this VDO, I still do not want to practice for fight. So, I very much like your comment 🙏
@tyronekim3506
@tyronekim3506 3 жыл бұрын
Nice show. Reminds me of a day, long a go in a friendly match, I challenged a woman using a naginata and I using a shinai. I put in a lot of effort but still lost the match.I found respect for the long reach weapon.
@inutil6117
@inutil6117 3 жыл бұрын
Just watching them spar, I can tell he's so fluid. Movement wise, technique wise. Very hard to read. Practically no weak points. Very good distance management. He's deadly.
@Vscustomprinting
@Vscustomprinting 2 жыл бұрын
For sure, but I don't think he was up against very strategic swordsmen .. another comment highlighted how the 3 fighters were not effectively strategizing against him.. maybe some more battle test swordsmen would make him look a bit less competent.. really interesting to watch him tho... Definitely dangerous to drag your spear on the ground one handed tho in a real battle.. what if it snags on a rock? What if it slips out of your hand?..
@juliahenriques210
@juliahenriques210 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vscustomprinting This. Those broom tactics... It was gaming the system so much it was actually funny.
@jerkchickenblog
@jerkchickenblog 2 жыл бұрын
the weak point is he doesn't know how to control the space the way he should with the length of the spear
@spugelo359
@spugelo359 2 жыл бұрын
@EndGameYTcaptain Unfortunately, these kids are playing games and not real life. Those 'swords' aren't sharp, the shield is missing and apparently using 2 handed spear is a great throwing weapon... it is not. Throwing your only weapon away is like throwing your life away. If that dumbass can just throw the spear, those 3 swordsmen should be able to too and suddenly it's 3 ranged weapons versus 1 😂
@calsalitra4689
@calsalitra4689 2 жыл бұрын
@EndGameYTcaptain Spears are made of wood, but that wood is treated to be tough. It takes much more than a sword swing to break one, even several axe swings to the exact same spot may not break a spear, and a competent spearmen won't make it easy to focus down the spear like that.
@jammRJ
@jammRJ 10 ай бұрын
If the spear is that light , no one gets damaged much , if its heavier the wielder simply gets tired
@planetlimbo5981
@planetlimbo5981 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the dark souls you died at the end. Spear wins usually.
@westindie1132
@westindie1132 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel!!!
@beto_belchior
@beto_belchior 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is just amazing plss keep uuup Hugs from Brasil 🤝
@cattfishh7331
@cattfishh7331 3 ай бұрын
Ancient equivalent of 3 handguns vs 1 rifle
@swiswi
@swiswi 3 жыл бұрын
Proudly learning the same style with the spearman :-)
@pedrolucas-jv5fu
@pedrolucas-jv5fu 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, wich style is this? I'm very curious
@christopherknorr2895
@christopherknorr2895 3 жыл бұрын
Following.
@malakatan3235
@malakatan3235 3 жыл бұрын
Hanmudo
@swiswi
@swiswi 3 жыл бұрын
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@swiswi
@swiswi 3 жыл бұрын
@@pedrolucas-jv5fu Hanmoodo : Korean martial arts that have been passed down in Bae family since the late Chosun dynasty
@zachlewis9751
@zachlewis9751 2 жыл бұрын
"Your friends might get me in a rush but not before I make your head into a canoe" - Tombstone. All three swordsman could easily take the spearman, but no one is willing to take the risk.
@eyesofthecervino3366
@eyesofthecervino3366 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. Lots of people saying the swordsmen were too reserved, but . . . yeah, of course they'd hold back. They can't afford not to.
@zachlewis9751
@zachlewis9751 2 жыл бұрын
@@eyesofthecervino3366 That's what I like about these kind of sparing matches. They are far more realistic than anything anyone ever sees. A real fight isn't like fencing, you don't go so aggressive trying to win and open yourself open to an attack.
@quentinwilliams5786
@quentinwilliams5786 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the strategy of holding the spear all the way in the back to reduce arm fatigue then using both hands only to block or strike when in range
@jerkchickenblog
@jerkchickenblog 2 жыл бұрын
holding it in the middle is only done in movies. all spearmen hold one end, or else you lose the point of it being a longer ranged weapon. anything else you do with the spear in the middle is just to switch back to holding the end, this also goes for real martial arts using any 'stick' quarterstaff, jo/bo etc. you hold on to the very end
@ezequielcanale
@ezequielcanale 10 ай бұрын
I don't understand why if they get hit (not stabbed) with the spear, the get hurt. The spear is a pointy stick so unless you got pierced or pricked with the tip, it would be like getting hit with a stick, which would hurt but wouldn't incapacitate the limb. Or is it supposed to be like a japanese naginata?
@TexasRedOutlaw
@TexasRedOutlaw Жыл бұрын
The technique of keeping the spear along the floor seems very effective, it goes below the guard of the sword, preventing parrying away, it makes the attacker less confident as even a slight mistep will be a nick to the feet, it almost plays on a bit of a psychological block aswell, something crawling towards you along the floor, you give it way more distance than you would if the spear was in the air, allowing him to control far more floor space.
@vinhix
@vinhix 11 ай бұрын
Except its complety useless if you were using a real spear, since the steel and depending on the floor, it would barely slide, of not even slide at all, unless you did a lot of strengh. So thats the technique I found the worse, since its only useable in this situation.
@willthesword
@willthesword 11 ай бұрын
It also shows you how pointless this rules set is, as if you were running your spear along the ground like that the actualy amount of force you could get on someones limb when you hit it would cause a scratch, and then they hit you with a full strength swing.
@엘제-k9u
@엘제-k9u 10 ай бұрын
@@willthesword You sound like you've never cut yourself. slight pokes with sharpened metal can cause meaningful damage. Yes, it's not as leathal, but it can hurt enough to cause shock paralysis. And that split second is more than enough for a proper secondary hit.
@willthesword
@willthesword 10 ай бұрын
@@엘제-k9u shock paralysis? What have you made up here? No, seriously, Google it and tell me if you get anything describing it, because you've just made it up. Adrenaline in these sorts of situations normally keeps you going well past significant injuries without you even realising you were injured. People keep fighting with multiple bullet wounds without pausing. A light cut from a spear doesn't cause someone to stand still to be killed.
@엘제-k9u
@엘제-k9u 10 ай бұрын
@willthesword My bad. The translator got screwed up. But it seems you know the general concept so whatever I know that adrenaline can keep you going, but the neural feedbacks work in multiple and contested ways. Depending on numerous factors your body may walk it off temporarily, or it may go stiff like cramps in a sense. Human body is way too much complicated to be put into this-equals-that. You're not wrong, but I'm not wrong either.
@PrometheanConsulting
@PrometheanConsulting 2 жыл бұрын
I think the rules of this contest greatly favor the spear over the sword. Most of the "touch" and slashing attacks by the spear would not be disabling though certainly inconvenient. Even a kill shot might not drop an opponent before getting seriously injured in return. Fun to watch but as a competitive 3-weapon fencer (and occasional stage combat fighter including spear basics), I have my doubts. Dragging the spear point is very poor technique. And the swordsmen appear unskilled in their use of distance and ability to coordinate... there was of running to a position, setting, and getting killed. More of an exhibition than an actual test between skilled combatants.
@MontySlython
@MontySlython 2 жыл бұрын
These aren't HEMA fighters, they are sports enthusiasts, neither likely has much experience fighting in a group or fighting a combatant that has reach advantage.
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy 2 жыл бұрын
A real spear can deliver far more powerful blows than a sword could... Many sword cuts are mitigated by heavy clothing, never mind actual armor.
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy 2 жыл бұрын
@Matrick How the is being empty handed better against any weapon? If you're wearing a good pair of gloves, you can grab a sword blade with little issue, but actually trying that against someone slightly competent is basically suicide, and a spear would be even worse.
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy 2 жыл бұрын
@Matrick Have you even tried it against someone with a rapier? It's a nightmare, and a spear can be redirected faster and hit a wider range of targets. Feint high and quickly thrust low into the femoral artery. Feint low and make your opponent reach down then stick him in the throat. If you have ANY kind of weapon, you have something that you at least have a small chance of parrying with that isn't your easily pierced flesh.
@Lethalmuffin87
@Lethalmuffin87 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah sweeping the tip like that was bad form, I learned to get behind the lethal range quickly and use the blade to disable further use. So in this example push forward, and step on the pole arm while another attacks. Or just rush in before he can pull back the haft. If your weapon is close range and you’re up against a medium range opponent you want to push the advantage and take away their ability to plan an effective counter. These guys seem like beginners just casually seeing what a fight would look like spear v sword. A master swordsman knows his weakness though and the weakness of the spear. A sword advantage is the entire weapon is dangerous whereas the spear only the ends are effective offensively while the haft is defense
@qwerty3465
@qwerty3465 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff and very well done with skill, proper music AND nice effects :) That said, I am fairly sure 3 weapons will prevail if coordinated properly (and the skill gap is not too great - see Dynasty Warriors). Although the spear wielder does a very good job of keeping his distance and the swords in front of him, the 3 swords don`t really push their (huge) advantage of being able to threat/attack from different angles and are nearly always fairly static and in a
@mpcbsar
@mpcbsar 2 жыл бұрын
Love the blood splatter effects. Great video
@wereyouaking
@wereyouaking 2 жыл бұрын
The spear is an extremely fast weapon, especially when you considen that the opponent must first move to you before they can attack
@raebertgrayson5766
@raebertgrayson5766 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that struck me was the hesitation on the part of the swordsmen. I also use a spear (among other pole arms), as well as the sword, so I understand the advantages and disadvantages of both weapons. There were many moments when the spearman would make a move that would've ended him, IF just one of the swordsmen would've carried through with a serious attack; they chose to block many of the spearman's thrusts, when simple movement would have gotten them closer to make their attack. The spearman as well made errors... (before I go further, I understand it was a light-hearted contest, made for fun) ...and just about the only technique I saw him using was the thrust. He hardly ever used the shaft, or the butt. Some of his moves were opened him up considerably. Skating the tip of his weapon along the floor as he did when things got "serious" would not have been possible with live steel. Overall, it was a deeply enjoyable video. Good job!
@CustardDonut
@CustardDonut Жыл бұрын
Wowser, where do you live that you use both a sword and spear.
@raebertgrayson5766
@raebertgrayson5766 Жыл бұрын
@@CustardDonut I study martial arts in southern California. This has let me excell in Medieval combat in various Medievalist combat groups.
@Boywellesley13
@Boywellesley13 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, deflect the spear down and to one side with your weapon/ shield, step diagonal forward the other way while keeping your weapon/shield on the spear shaft and close for the kill. You have to wait for a chance and commit. It is much easier with a shield, being able to hook with an axe has its uses too.
@MikaeruDaiTenshi
@MikaeruDaiTenshi Жыл бұрын
@@raebertgrayson5766 My tactical approach, though myself neither being experienced nor trained, would be to wait for the spearman's thrust, then sidestep, grap the shaft, and either go in for the attack or break the spear. Or, in a 3v1, let the others go in for the kill. However, I do understand that this would be a risky thing to do in a real fight, and there might be a warrior's (samurai) code against doing such a thing. So, what would you say about that?
@raebertgrayson5766
@raebertgrayson5766 Жыл бұрын
@@MikaeruDaiTenshi That's a very sound approach! Getting one's weapon grabbed is always a risk when using pole arms, especially in mass combat, Most people would be at a loss on how to deal with it. The obvious counter would be to free the weapon by leveraging it against the opponent's grip: the human hand has certain inherent weaknesses: moving your weapon in a circle usually serves to break such a grip. if done quickly enough, It's surprising how little force is required to do so. Points for posing a good observation!
@ashthestampede6625
@ashthestampede6625 3 жыл бұрын
last guy on first round. Quick spear toss for the win 😂
@tvgerbil1984
@tvgerbil1984 7 ай бұрын
They were so polite. Although they surrounded the spearman, they insisted to attack him one at a time.
@silentprince01
@silentprince01 2 жыл бұрын
I believe I read somewhere, 1 spearman is = 6 swordsmen. Which is why in ancient times the spear was actually the main armament of most professional military, and the sword was actually a sidearm/secondary weapon.
@alexanderolson6622
@alexanderolson6622 Жыл бұрын
There are a bunch of different factors. Spears are cheaper and easier to manufacture than swords by a great deal, and formations with shields make thrusting weapons, especially with reach, favorable. They're also easier to use - a good friend of mine who is an enthusiast of this sort of thing stated that a naginata wielder can adequately contend with a swordsman who is three times as skilled. There's historical basis for that in noblewomen using them for home defense. In many cases there's a pretty favorable ratio, I would love to see your source on the 6:1 and exactly what sort of situation that applied to.
@Stoneybyrd808
@Stoneybyrd808 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to participate in this training session! Especially with the spear!
@vincentlee7359
@vincentlee7359 3 жыл бұрын
Now... How many swordsman would it take to fend off an entire group of spearmen?
@charless3108
@charless3108 3 жыл бұрын
If there are enough spearmen to surround the swordsmen it's probably game over
@vincentlee7359
@vincentlee7359 3 жыл бұрын
@@charless3108 only fair since they did more swordsman vs spearmen lol
@ThinkingHard
@ThinkingHard 10 ай бұрын
In real life, you cant run around this fast with armors and heavy spear, and tapping with tip wouldn’t hurt anyone. Thrusts would have to be harder and if he manages to get one, pulling out the spear would be hard before the other person comes to finish you
@markrcca5329
@markrcca5329 3 жыл бұрын
amazing. I tried it years ago, two swords against a spear/halberd. One good way to defeat him is to stay close to each other and rush him simultaneously. But that's hard to do. Psychologically we are wired to wait until the opponent is finished attacking one of our friends, before you feel you can attack him. If you spread out trying to surround him, it's difficult to synchronize your movements, and he can pick you off one by one. I suppose you can use sound commands to signal rushing him all at once from different directions.
@porkcutlet3920
@porkcutlet3920 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, people tend to forget the psychological aspect of having a weapon with a longer reach. It's scary, and even scarier if you're facing an actual weapon.
@markrcca5329
@markrcca5329 3 жыл бұрын
@@porkcutlet3920 agreed. Also, I think seeing two people fighting naturally feels like a dangerous situation, while a person facing you but not yet fighting feels far less dangerous; while in reality it is a lot safer to attack someone while he's busy fighting someone else!
@markrcca5329
@markrcca5329 2 жыл бұрын
@Carlos Moreno I think the Swordsmen should have tried getting into a close line formation. Once the Spear lunges at one of them, successfully or not - the other two can instantly counterattack. But when they are spread out like in the video, by the time a Sword counterattacks, the Spear has plenty of time to regroup and face him individually again. From a line formation, the Swords can even initiate a simultaneous attack on a signal (like a count of three). One Swordsman would probably get speared, but the other two have a good chance to hit the Spearman. Once the Spearman sees this tactic, he will run around and try to get on the side of their formation. But if the Swordsmen always adjust their little line to face the Swordsman, he will just keep running around and will eventually tire himself out. Eventually, it will come to a draw because the Spear would not be able to safely attack the Sword formation, but the Sword formation of course will be much slower and cannot chase him around the battlefield. However, I would consider that a tactical win for the Swords, because they can take any part of the battlefield they want, while the Spear can only stay alive by running away.
@Redsiix
@Redsiix 3 жыл бұрын
This is why spears were primary in ancient times while the sword was a secondary weapon. The spear is like your rifle and the sword is your gun. Both can do damage, but the other is more effective in killing.
@manticore4952
@manticore4952 2 жыл бұрын
Spears were used by peasants, swords by nobility.
@ghost_of_jah5210
@ghost_of_jah5210 2 жыл бұрын
@@manticore4952 spears were used by the winners, swords by the losers😂
@yeoseotidle2290
@yeoseotidle2290 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghost_of_jah5210 it’s way easier to carry a sword in everyday life rather than a spear, that’s why the sword made a good secondary weapon for those with money
@richter9485
@richter9485 2 жыл бұрын
@@manticore4952 Yeah but which weapon did the killing? Not like most of there were famous for it or anything. Knights with the lance? Winged Hussars Companion Cavalry Greek Hoplites The friggin Roman Legionaires threw Pila/Spears Even the samurai used spears in large battles. I know its hard to understand but Hollywood movies will have you believe everyone uses short one handed weapons like axes and swords 90% of the time. Or if they went two handed it would be a Greatsword lol. In reality the weapon that has longer reach wins.
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy 2 жыл бұрын
@@manticore4952 Wrong. Spears were the primary weapons of warrior nobility from Western Europe all the way to Japan. Swords were backup sidearms. As a norse warrior king wrote "a spear is worth two swords in battle".
@dand3953
@dand3953 2 жыл бұрын
There is a tactic used in Japanese swordplay where one swordsman will intentionally sacrifice himself by grabbing and tying up the spearhead and even impaling himself while the other (one or more) swordsmen simultaneously rush the spearman. Also, all those swordsmen were not strategizing as a unit, but attacking individually, that's a brainless tactic guaranteed to get you impaled. Last but not least, nobody seemed to have any throwing weapons that can certainly disconcert a lone spearman.
@NghiaHoang-nt4ib
@NghiaHoang-nt4ib 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Japanese and their nature instinct of committing sudoku
@MrSporkdude
@MrSporkdude 2 жыл бұрын
and all that straight from your arm chair how impressive
@sunghyeonmoon2506
@sunghyeonmoon2506 2 жыл бұрын
This was talking about melee vs melee. If there were arrows, the other side just needs a shield. It's just a simulation in a brute fight
@kevinwarburton2938
@kevinwarburton2938 2 жыл бұрын
@@NghiaHoang-nt4ib I was just playing a game of Seppuku ...it didn't end well :)
@SentientTent
@SentientTent 2 жыл бұрын
A swordsman really needed to unscrew the pommel of their blade and end him rightly.
@thomasmacdonough288
@thomasmacdonough288 2 жыл бұрын
Dang that Fire Emblem weapons triangle wasn't lying after all
@defenderbyname3484
@defenderbyname3484 2 жыл бұрын
The spearman dragging the tip of the spear along the ground is really interesting technique. It would take them nearly the same amount of effort to raise and jab it above or below the waist, but those two attacks require entirely different defences from the swordsmen, letting them tailor their attack to best counter the swordsman's defence. That's clever, and I learned a thing!
@Lopata991
@Lopata991 2 жыл бұрын
but only in a gym, outside in real life there would be rock and soil that would dull the tip
@defenderbyname3484
@defenderbyname3484 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lopata991 that's a good point (get it? 😁) But in this environment it works really well, and even in the field the same tactic would apply by just holding the tip near the ground
@Lftarded
@Lftarded Жыл бұрын
​@@Lopata991he's using the spear tip as a ruler so they're out of distance, and when they start to attack him, the spearman can just jab the spear to him or retract it to parry
@isaiahwelch8066
@isaiahwelch8066 3 жыл бұрын
I play Dagorhir, a LARP-style game where we pad the weapons, and disallow headshots. Other than those differences, dagorhir is really similar to this. What should have happened is that the swordsmen needed to attack from multiple angles simultaneously, specifically from both of the spearman's left and right sides. They did not do this, and so were defeated. This also demonstrates why cultures with shields are so ubiquitous, in that a shield is the most able to deal with a spear's reach. Basically, use a shield to get inside the spear's reach, and the opponent can finish the spearman off with a melee slash or piercing stab.
@ikatekeda6267
@ikatekeda6267 3 жыл бұрын
Amtgard. Everything you just said is correct. I know we use featherlight, please don't bully me about it. They also need more aggression. Arm block that spear, who fucking cares if you lose t if you get to stab the guy, but at the same time they probably run the mentality you don't have respawn.
@ActionNerdGo
@ActionNerdGo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ikatekeda6267 a Belegarth guy here, (figured we'd get the tri-fecta) I've explained to many a new fighter that "it's called 'sword-play' and 'spear-work' for a reason" also of course our games include shields, which is a major reason kendo practitioners often struggle when they first discover foamfighting.
@ikatekeda6267
@ikatekeda6267 2 жыл бұрын
@@ActionNerdGo It's never fun to go up against a speed pole, but you can do it if you need too. Shields are, however, unendingly useful. Still, stiff block to the side and advance, make them run away, but stay with them.
@bobon123
@bobon123 2 жыл бұрын
They didn't do it because the spearman was very good in avoiding it. If you watch the video carefully you will see that his continuous movement was meant to keep all of the opponents on the same side to avoid being flanked. It is very tiring of course, as you have to back-pedal continuously.
@isaiahwelch8066
@isaiahwelch8066 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobon123 : That's not the only reason -- it's part of it. But the better part of this video showed a lack of coordination between the swordfighters in attacking the spearman. Had they attacked both sides simultaneously, the spearman would have had much more difficulty in defending. At least one swordfighter should have tried to keep the spear from being withdrawn to stab, staying inside his reach. As for shields, it's why I call using a shield to kill a lone spearman "surf-boarding a spear," since a light, medium shield allows a shieldman to not just knock a spear away, it allows a shieldman to get inside the spear's reach, and control it. Ironically, I'm a short guy with short arms and legs, and I notice that those with longer arms have an easier time getting to the spearman once they get within that reach. But the point is, the spearman tore apart the other three because of a lack of coordination. If the other team had attacked in coordination, he wouldn't have stood much of a chance, no matter how much he backpedaled.
@AppliedMathematician
@AppliedMathematician 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, longer reach is indeed an significant advantage, however the sword-men did not seem to use coordinated tactics. For example, two of them doing a diversion while the third gets out of the field of view of the Spearmen.
@Frater_Maven
@Frater_Maven Жыл бұрын
The two weapons EVERY culture no matter how far apart or geographically isolated they may have been, were the Knife and the Spear.
@goofsaddggkle7351
@goofsaddggkle7351 3 жыл бұрын
So interesting - looks like really need calculated coordination. Definitely putting the sword down for spear next time I am on a casual walk through feudal japan.
@nikolaisalikov1257
@nikolaisalikov1257 3 жыл бұрын
I would want to know what the spearman practices (style/discipline/etc).
@라임바라
@라임바라 3 жыл бұрын
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@라임바라 3 жыл бұрын
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@라임바라 3 жыл бұрын
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@nikolaisalikov1257
@nikolaisalikov1257 3 жыл бұрын
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@allenzero1
@allenzero1 3 жыл бұрын
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@zenraloc
@zenraloc 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta really get in their dead zone, even if it puts you at risk, when you fight a spear men you either give him the advantage and with that your death. Or increase your odds to 50%
@polerin
@polerin 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Though this is why I kept a long knife on me with a short sword. The short spear becomes a credible defensive weapon when popped vertical, and you can then step into an oncoming sword welders dead zone. Shields still messed me up though.
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