How Mods "Saved" My Life in FFXIV

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

What is this guy even talking about? Anyways, what you do YOU guys think about Mods? Have any opinions for or against them, I'd love to hear it here!

[@menkjell]

yoshi p has entered the chat

[@smol27]

helpful and honestly makes the game feel more enjoyable, so long as it doesn't heavily cheat the game

[@lokiacross0077]

Do you have any advice for where/how to start for someone interested in modding but don't know sh** about it ?

[@spiswel]

@@lokiacross0077First ask yourself what you want out of mods and where your boundaries are. makes it a lot easier to navigate if you have an understanding of what YOU want to change about the game visually or gameplay-wise. Then start small. learn about xivlauncher first. what are plugins and what gameplay/functions they affect. what Sea of Stars is. what kind of mods for cosmetics/vfx/assets exist. etc. lastly, ALWAYS read the userguides/documentations/descriptions provided and DONT SPEND ANY REAL MONEY at least until you've acquired an eye for things. (don't spend real money period tbh since the scene is extremely vast there's always, always, always going to be a free alternative).

[@SilencedWind]

I wholeheartedly agree with the glamour part. It was mostly anamnesis that sent me down the rabbit hole. Still try to keep my character as close to vanilla as possible (literally just so I can flex), and modding still helps with that. Also, GYAT

[@MrTripleM3]

I am impressed how well you can edit with only one hand.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Me too, honestly

[@SneakyMuffin]

Yoshida's arming the Square Enix orbital laser as we speak. I wish you luck sir.

[@CecilyThanador]

"I am no longer asking you to stop using mods." - Yoshi P.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Nah I'll live through it, I've played enough HELLDIVERS 2

[@despahotaru]

​@@SamTheLemonBoy⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[@MaisieSqueak]

My god I hope so. Do it if you want but stuff like this is just baiting others to follow suit and make it a real problem in the game. Before you know where we are you've got the same issue WoW had where the developers are making content that makes it hard for moded play and virtually impossible without mods Keep mods personal and respect the wish or Yoshida rather than testing the ban's efficacy like 14 year old school kids

[@valkragez]

I am convinced lemon is making this video just to show off his waifu wol

[@myrkrormr]

WoL= Waifu of Light

[@despahotaru]

It's cute though.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

True, actually, you saw through my charade!

[@LucasBernardesRosa]

I'd do it too...

[@Enter-the-Fray]

Ngl I’m slightly curious how my WoL would look like with mods Would I try it? maybe would I risk it? Nope

[@Noanatsuka]

One of my favorite mods, allows Bards to make accurate (well CLOSE to accurate) MIDI's of songs and play them instantly in the game, which allows you to do what bards are supposed to do... make others feel a bit better by listening to some banger music.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Oh yes, that completely slipped my mind, but I loved making performances as a Bard

[@SylvaGardenia]

That's not really a mod though, that's a third-party program that automatically inputs key presses. No modification to the game, outside of making sure the keys are set properly, is required to make it work.

[@bellingtoned]

Hey so asking for a friend what is this program ?

[@Cloverpotato]

@@bellingtoned The one I know is called Bard Music Player

[@Cyromantik]

I have one similar to that, it runs a scroll like Guitar Hero where you have to hit notes accurately and I have a mini Korg MIDI keyboard plugged into my PC so I can "play" while I play. I think it's "Bard Hero" or something like that, I'd have to go home and look that up.

[@spiswel]

The modding scene is an incredibly vast place and I don't think it truly registers in most people's minds as such outside of the usual "cheaters & slutty glams" sterotypes. As somebody who largely prefers to stick to "vanilla-adjacent" stuff and focuses more on QOL tweaks, vanilla models/texture upgrades and so on, I'm aware that it's not the majority of the scene either but, I love this game so much. Why would I not want to invest efforts and put creativity into my character's appearance and my own immersion as a player beyond the vanilla character creator's limits? There's a very good reason why one of the broadest categories of mods in the entire community are "vanilla mashups" simply blending elements from two or more existing gears/hairs etc together to make a cool new subvariant. Unquestionable illegality of mods in the eyes of the TOS aside, it should also be noted that the devs themselves are not only aware of the scene but actively have spoken up about learning valuable lessons from it in the past especially when it comes to the QOL parts A surprising amount of things in today's XIV would not have been implemented if not for the devs looking into what's popular among mods and plugins/addons. the Disable Camera Pivot setting when using Legacy controls? that was a mod before. the Little Checkmark next to obtainable mounts/minions you already own? that was a mod before. the HUD using Green text for your dots/debuffs vs white text for other players' dots/debuffs? that was a mod before. the Sword, star and staff icons next to damage flytext to indicate if they're physical, magical or true damage sources? that was a mod before. I could go on for hours. But the point is it's not hard to figure out why the modding scene ALSO contributes to the playerbase's happiness, and I can only wish for the game to continue adding or evolving things based on what players like to see or use.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

The best part is when the ban a person to implement a QoL mod, I love it

[@Cyromantik]

Honestly it full well makes the game playable for me. I'm chronically scatter-brained and the default UI just makes it worse, so my main mods are those that clean that up, declutter, simplify. I don't understand the mentality of people who want to ban others over accessability in online games, especially when it doesn't affect them personally.

[@Necrolucius]

Me, as a skyrim and Minecraft player, i use mods in every game who have mods for use 🤝 I like to use, its fun

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

It's always fun to use them

[@rabidsmiles]

The godsend of the combo mods for someone like me who have hand injuries saved my experience for this game. Not talking about the one that turns everything into one button but the ones that puts the 123 combos into 1 and shoves buttons that SHOULD already be 1 button together. Saves me a lot of aches and pains and lets me enjoy playing the game.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

definitely

[@liliumvulpes]

I've tried to talk to others about these mods before, because I use them myself due to pain and difficulties with movement in some of my fingers. Its baffling how many people think I'm cheating and turn hostile and insult me, with some saying that disabled people shouldn't be allowed to play the game because we are a burden on the main playerbase.

[@JaJaWeWe1]

@@liliumvulpes VPR is prove of how that should be baseline for all of these 123 combos.

[@ShiroCh_ID]

@@liliumvulpes dang that's rude of them

[@suparockr]

While I would never personally use character mods, there would be no force stopping me from downloading Gigabytes worth of dumbshit brainrot mods like turning the MCH bot into Freddy Fazbear if they let the genie out of the bottle.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

hur hur hurhur

[@tkhero7045]

please tell me the Freddy fazbot mod is real

[@markup6394]

I could go into detail about the whys but I'll leave it at that. As long as I dont hurt anyone, as long as I dont cheat, as long as I keep it to myself... yeah. I know its against TOS, but instead of spending money on countless Fantasias (and I used them A LOT), I use a mod. That way my character stays who they are, keeps their identity, and I'm having tons of fun.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Yeah, so long as you are not bothering others then it should be chill

[@IrideaeSnowbloom]

To my knowledge, the "don't talk about mods" bit is precisely so they don't have to come after your ass. There's a quiet understanding that people will mod, but as long as it's not egregious (e.g. people flaming others for their DPS when using ACT, going satellite mode when doing a world first live on stream, or otherwise fuck with the game files to get an unfair advantage or create irl billboards) they're turning a blind eye. There's so many streamers that use an entirely alternative client (for chatbubbles and some other such shenanigans) and where we know the devs have watched them at least once or know of their existence.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Out of sight, out of mind kind of thing. And other times, so long as it's not messing around that much and breaking the game's initial design like difficulty or something, then it should be fine

[@WGSXFrank]

The biggest issue with having a hot character is the nonstop erp approaches. Otherwise, it's the most fun I've ever had in a game.

[@1337penguinman]

Also, that "alternative client" is pretty much mandatory if you want to play on a Steam Deck or even a regular Linux machine.

[@CorvusSolitario]

​@@1337penguinmanOut of curiosity, why is that? Doubly out of curiosity, how is it like playing FFXIV on the steam deck?

[@Rinincali]

A HUGE fan of mods in FFXIV, started the game playing vanilla and as I reached EW I started to poke around, my WoL is still mostly unmodded but mods have helped me explore him as a character more and more. I also got into the RP scene, and no, not the degenerate one (not that there's anything wrong with that), but high quality RP that has helped me make friends in my 30s and explore the depths of my creativity. Mods help with that, I have characters that are able to be accurately represented, I can explore themes of disability, trauma, gender etc etc. There are incredible tools to assist with RPing in-game comfortably. Additionally, as a disabled person with a deep love of photography, being able to gpose in a more advanced way has been an incredible gift that allows me to enjoy one of my favorite hobbies without having to physically push myself to be out in a specific location at a specific time with a specific subject. As for visual mods/character mods I think that on a base level its just, nice to have that creative freedom. But I also think its SO important to talk about how mods generally help those from marginalized communities better represent their characters/themselves! More skin tone options, body types, scars (including gender affirming surgery scars!), mobility devices, prosthetics. The list goes on and on, it is so nice to see people able to play a character with those aspects because of mods and anyone who shits on mods inherently should really poke around some themselves, I think they'd change their tune.

[@SlimeyCube26]

My favorite mod is the ragdoll mod it makes failing less annoying and I can’t help but laugh

[@suplexsuarez3384]

I never laughed so hard as I did when I got yeeted into a small wall then flailed in the air as I landed behind it

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

It was the best thing about prog

[@KajuKajuKatli]

wait don't be shy what's the mod?? I NEED IT. AS A DRAGOON I NEED TO DIE AS STUPIDLY AS POSSIBLE

[@suplexsuarez3384]

@@KajuKajuKatli Google "very accurate overwatch death ffxiv" and you should see a link to a page from gumroad. This has the ragdoll, a flying spinning death, and 3 sound effects

[@Dream_Daze]

I'd actually love a ragdoll mod

[@has9793]

loved the angel and devil bit

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

My pride and joy

[@shalimardamere302]

Honestly probably everyone at one point before starting to use mods, lol :D

[@PapaPyrite]

Modding actually got me into learning how blendr works. I couldn’t find the kind of mod i wanted for my character, so learned to edit mods and even started uploading them to the archive.

[@UnkownRDO]

it goes from reshade to modding to erp to earning gill from being a succubus.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

I can't wait to be a gillionare

[@UnkownRDO]

@@SamTheLemonBoyyou can also do patchday crafts xD

[@thecthuloser876]

My view on mods depend entirely on the type of mods in question... Cosmetic stuff..? 100% cool, even if I have personal issues with stuff that radically clashes with in-game aesthetics. (But folks can do what they want, even if I dislike it.) Quality of life stuff? Heck yeah. Other stuff is more questionable a touch more questionable. Sometime like ACT is good in theory, allowing you to improve your skill in the game... But it's also something that doesn't really matter in the games' casual content. As long as you know the basics, that's more than fine for MSQ and roulettes. It's still a useful tool, however, and I think more good than bad. What I am 100% against however are some of the mods that call out mechanics, show safe spots in raids, etc. Anything that trivializes game design, even game design you personally think is bad, isn't something I think should be supported in a multiplayer game. I also think there's a fine you can cross when you're no longer playing the game. If you ever feel you *need* mods, forgetting what drew you to the game in the first place, it's problematic. (But I'm the maniac that plays vanilla Skyrim/New Vegas/Fallout 4 every few years to remember what I like about the core game.)

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

So long as they don't cheat the game in horrid ways then it should be chill

[@thecrowonyourshoulder]

I am in the same belief as you 100%. I am a vanilla player in FFXIV, and I've enjoyed thousands of hours without the use of a single mod only because I am just satisfied with how the game is, and I take breaks when I feel caught up. Not only that, but I have many friends who use mods, and I let them enjoy their stuff without judgement. The only thing that got me sort of riled up was when a static member was using cactbot to improve his parses and felt the team was holding him back because they didn't have the tool, and two of them played on console. Thankfully, it was short-lived, but it didn't make anyone feel good about raiding on this team after the fact. Aside from that experience; it has been very chill with the people around me who uses mods.

[@1337penguinman]

I've always had a rule that I don't use mods that affect gameplay in any real way. Mainly because I don't like feeling gimped on patch day.

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

For me, I'd enjoy the outfit mods and attack animation mods. I get the game's limitations but the modders do some damn good work with new animations. I still remember seeing a person show off a Gunbreaker mod where each attack had a blood splatter effect. That and a cool attack right out of Mortal Kombat X where they got their gunblade stuck in the enemy and kicked it to dislodge the weapon. The reason why I said Mortal Kombat X also is because Jason's grab attack was the same concept where he brings his machete down on the opponent's head and kicks them away to dislodge it. Honestly my favorite attack animation in the game due to how much it screams Jason Voorhees and the kick sounds like its packing a punch behind it

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Oh that's cool, I don't think I've ever seen that mod! :O

[@Kottery]

I honestly have trouble playing without mods after having been using them for years. High quality au ra scales, freckles, makeup, flat as a board, a fat ass, and all sorts of outfit mods to make in-game clothes properly compatible with everything. One of my favorite mods is an overhaul of White Mage's spell effects, spell names, and spell icons turning it into a blood mage/vampire aesthetic. Also GShade is an absolute requirement to even play the game for me. Vanilla FFXIV looks so grey and washed out to me.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

To make yourself feel like a unique character, besides. And yeah the shaders part really makes everything so much shinier

[@burneraccounthandle]

gshade bad

[@Instancias_de_paz]

That whm mod you mentioned picked my interest... Can you link or name it?

[@luckylynx613]

Me watching this as a ps4 player

[@SemekiIzuio]

Same...

[@GlitchWitchNyx]

Okay, after seeing your character's face for the first time and hearing the smallest snippets of her backstory, I just want a lore video on her now.

[@Grimnoire]

Some KZbinr made her in a basement with a box of scraps

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

That has been something I'd love to work on, but in time when I can invest so much time into story-writing and telling

[@ShiroCh_ID]

@@SamTheLemonBoy so... she is like Cid? but has Aether power lol

[@jessicawoodley9577]

@@ShiroCh_ID there's at least one fanfic out there with a garlean wol where crystal mom just *whacked* aether manipulation into them, which is hilarious "HEAR." *thwap* "FEEL." *thwap* "THINK." *thwap*

[@fightylightyy]

Whoa, who's that weirdo upscaling the reaper's corsetlet? c:

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Ain't No Way :O

[@fightylightyy]

@@SamTheLemonBoyhehe, a friend DMed me like "yoooo I just saw you in a youtube video" and sent me the link!

[@JamesRogers1983]

lol. You published this video at about the same time I stopped using mods on my main character. I felt she had lost her identity as a Seeker. She no longer had her clan identifiers. her face, while absolutely gorgeous, just wasn’t her face. Don’t get me wrong, all my other characters still have their mods and I’ll still have fun doing all the stuff, like exploring new mods etc, but on my main, not anymore. She needs to be herself, the way I created her and spent the last 2.5 years with. I love mods, they’ve really got the creative side of things going, but for the character I play with as my main, that I do content with and see in cut scenes, I want that to be what Squeenix envisioned. I’ll have my mod fun time with the other 9 characters. Great video, really enjoyed it :)

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Thank you for sharing your story! It's always awesome to hear people's side of things, and thank you for the comment, I'm really glad you enjoyed it!

[@LeonLupin]

I wholeheartedly agree with your points. Mods made me more expressive, and in turn more confident in myself and what I like. Do you remember when I commented at one point about switching to "big tiddy fem au'ra"? I went through with it as you can see in my pfp, and modding made representing myself through her a lot more meaningful. For context, I am born male, but feel like I'm both male and female inside, so having my WoL and being able to truly customize everything about her, enables me to live out that side of me. Not only has FFXIV as a game made me way more social and welcoming, it has also enabled me to explore sides of myself I never knew I had/needed to live out. I don't think that I could say this with the same energy if mods weren't involved. From dances, to comedic animations, gear replacements and even the spicy stuff, these ways of expression that mods provide us with, are essential and important in my eyes. Since I've been watching your stuff since almost the beginning of my journey in XIV, your Hyur was among the first I had ever seen with mods on in your videos so she really influenced me wanting to switch to a fem character, initially it was going to be a Hyur as well. I am happy with my scales though, and most of all happy I am able to be her and still feel like myself thanks to mods. I hope we run into each other in the game someday! 💜

[@Lyu-Phy]

Your point about people living out their whole side of masculine/feminine through their characters applies to a lot of people I think, something that more and more people realise.

[@Gillian_FFXIV]

@@Lyu-PhyActually very true! I do this too and even Xenosys Vex does it with Thirsty Bia lmfao it's an excellent way to express another side of yourself considering we, as people, are complex beings and all :3

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Thank you so much for sharing your side of things, and I hope we one day do cross paths with one another! :O

[@LeonLupin]

@@SamTheLemonBoy You're welcome! I'll see you in Eorzea 🙂

[@LeonLupin]

@Lyu-Phy yeah, it took me a long time as well to realise I'm more complex than I thought 🙂

[@Wastingsometimehere]

Rightfully pointed out one major thing people forget. We are playing a Japanese game that's just translated. The laws of Japan come first. It would be on the JP players to make their lawmakers change.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Which won't do much of a change, I think, I would assume it's set in stone

[@AlexanderBrantley]

Could you make a video on how modding works because with your charm, it would make something seen as difficult to get into a little less. Love your channel. Keep up the great work! 👍

[@SayaKirasaka]

Ive already said it to you personally but ill say it here again, thanks to you I discovered mods back when in the first place and Im glad I did. A big point, that you also touched on, is that mods help to create a character that really feels like *your* character and not like preset nr.546. And once youve started using some QoL mods going back to base game is just a pain every single minute of it... until someone gets banned for it and they add it in the game themselves.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

I still can't get over that reality, I'm glad you found some enjoyment in it!

[@kadetanaka5325]

I've been playing and modding the game for 5 years but I never got into modding my character's body shape myself. It's so easy to mess up, at least from my experience. Doesn't stop me from modding everything else though, like teleport animations to minions to mounts and going wild with Glamourer XD

[@Leon-he1yd]

Its...i have a mixed opinion of mods for XIV because i DO use the QoL stuff and that shit makes a world of a difference and some vfx mods (time/space blm ftw) but i cannot stand the absolute horniness of the community it gives me so much disappointment so kuch i dont bother letting people know i even have them as im afraid of whatever mistake im going to find existing

[@meowmisskittycat5415]

Honestly without them I don't think I would have spent thousands of hours in the game. They've allowed me to socialise and make plenty of good friends with them. It's allowed me to become more integrated into the community than I did with out them. Was hugely against it to start with but I'm honestly glad I gave it a shot, or I would have been that anti-social solo player still, only playing with close friends when they got online.

[@sirforcer]

As a side note, while not a total replacement for ACT, Stone Sky Sea actually works pretty decently to tell you how well you know a job on a dummy, so you don't necessarily need 3rd party tools to know if you are good or not like you did at the start of the video. ACT doesn't really shine until you use it in a real fight which is where you see how well you can apply your rotation knowledge while also doing mechanics.

[@Howlflame]

Im lazy and don't care about making my characters look different. I have enough fun as it is using the vanilla stuff for my characters. But i love seeing what other people come up with. Plus, i don't have to see what they're doing in game.

[@megagreatgodlywhiteshark2929]

We need the bigger advanced slider facial and body modification options plz??!lol

[@lacatan6664]

Mods ruined my life. What am i doing in blender. What the fuck is a colorset

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

The colorset in Blender got me fucked up, not gonna lie

[@Tsugandate]

Thoughts and prayers to all of us for when Dawntrail comes out

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Surely

[@megagreatgodlywhiteshark2929]

Hyzienuse Sparecrow in Brynhildr,just let all know lol

[@eowarion]

I thought I recognized YAB+ right away.

[@messoremvitae]

Large+SC here XD

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

It's great, no?

[@The_Remage]

Same! God bless Aleks (Small+Buff+Small WC here - perfect tomboy umu)

[@dusieqq]

YAB and Bimbo+ the greatest of bodymods out there

[@markup6394]

I prefer T&F ^^

[@JTRyuujin]

I haven't thought about modding too much since I've only been playing for a few months and is currently a free trial player, but I have heard there's some useful ones like ACT you mentioned. I knew visual mods exist, and could understand why. Admittedly, I'm debating on maybe changing into a Hrothgar whenever I buy the game. Not sure yet. So I looked at a video of the character creator to maybe get an idea. And holy crap, they're have it rough! I knew about the whole hat situation and admittedly the video is outdated, but geez! I know some Hrothgar players use "certain" mods, but I totally don't blame them for using any visual mods to spruce of their character's appearance. I might have to look into it myself once I buy the game. Here's hoping Dawntrail does add more though. They need it.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Dawntrail will fix everything, prayge. But don't let that discourage you from playing as a Hrothgar, they look great in their original design! Minus the fact that they can't wear hats but still, they have a great design

[@JTRyuujin]

@@SamTheLemonBoy Oh yeah. I'm definitely gonna create one when I buy the game. I do like their designs and seen some really good glamour on them. Hopefully it won't be too long. We'll see!

[@CadeAid1]

I gave my midlander elezen ears with a mod and now that’s a part of his roleplay. Mods are awesome for customization and creativity.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

best kind of hybrid

[@Scorchlette]

I'd enver say this in-game or on the subreddit, but the Job Bars mod has unironically made me a better player. It's helped me get a much better feel of timing for DoTs and personal buffs, way more than anything in the vanilla game does.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

I can imagine some more fleshed out details can help people become a better player

[@user-rz5yk5sr7t]

I never cared about fleshing out "Lore" for my character until I modded her to hell and back, and now she has lore through every single expansion and a cool character arch

[@suplexsuarez3384]

Its fun seeing what other people come up with. on one side of limsa youll see a devilish mommy succubus with large black and red wings, on the other side someone is boxing players dressed like an oversized flaccid winky that flops to the ground when it /playsdead

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Or the *dies of cringe* /playdead

[@MrLightlike78]

Your character really do be lookin fine though. I looked respectfully *nods*

[@doinyourdad_6969]

I find this ironic for me cuz i just started modding after 10 years of playing on ps3 and ps4. And i can say, that lil lala devil is real. And im glad to have knowledge of body sliders :D

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

The Lala devil is literally me frfr

[@RuneKatashima]

I can't get in to cosmetics because not only do I feel like it's "cheating" still (We put a lot of effort in to our glams too, subverting that is cheating the process) but those around me can't see it. And who am I dressing for? Not myself. I made my catboi and I can't bear to part with him despite all the female glams that look good. Or hairstyles.

[@MatPanana]

Criminally underrated channel. Amazing editing and great sense of humour!

[@dpmoore99]

I am a console and pc gamer and I can say that modding any game especially after beating it does come with a certain feeling of accomplishment and success. I love to see how far I can push the game, or how silly I can make it. Some titles I try to make it as realistic as possible. Needless to say on the specific topic of FFXIV I have been an avid player for a good while (2.5x) but it goes without saying I was really nervous the first time I downloaded ACT and tried it out. I can say it was an eye opener. I have not installed it again as I took a hiatus and now have returned. But using things like shaders and the simple login UI or even setting up a cleaner hud system I really do enjoy. The customization and interactions with the game in my opinion are what makes games 'good' or 'great'. For example I did play WoW from beginning to WoTK. I had so many mods on that game it would be a miracle to load it up on my laptop when I was traveling. But it was expected to have parsers and node finders to have some what of an edge in the game which I believe did allocate for the toxicity in the game. All that is to say it should not matter if you mod a game or not. The purest gamers will chime in and state that it is defiling all the hard work that the devs did to get it to work. I have to combat that with yes all the hard work to abandon the idea after they get their check and no longer work on those features. Take for example the aesthetician or squads in FFXIV completely abandoned ideas. I will stop bitching but I think mods have a place in gaming and should be left alone and not be judged if you use them or not. At least you paid for the game and have not pirated it. If you are not happy with it there is not exactly a return feature after sinking in a decent amount of time to 'give it a chance', you might as well make the game something you enjoy. And if you are making your career in this field of digital art and games as a content creator you have to bring something to the table that entertains the masses, this way you can make a living. There is no shame in that. Pursuit of happiness my dude. Do what you enjoy try not to think of what the masses think do what makes you happy. You do not live in Japan so you are not going to go to prison but be careful that you do not get your account banned! Good content my dude keep it up!

[@ImEcchi]

Looks like I’m playing this game now. I thought ESO would of supported mods but all we get is UI stuff…

[@xsteelersx6]

Good ol' booba. Very true lemon! Without visual mods i would have unsubbed for probably 8-9 months in the middle of endwalker where I wasn't raiding or actively doing much other than logging in and tailoring a character with those tools. It really adds to the longevity for me.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

It really revived that desire to just login to enjoy the "other life"

[@RawryZenpai]

Do you have recommendations when it comes to plugins for getting into creating custom cinematographic shots and the like? 🤔

[@IssicheaV]

Ktisis or brio for Gpose

[@1337penguinman]

There's a great guide by someone called Reni. If you google that it will get you going in the right direction.

[@firebolt2406]

My personal favorite mod has to be a certain Taco Bell sound effect mod I added a little bit ago. Not only does it add a ragdoll effect to deaths (only to humanoid looking characters) but it plays the Taco Bell noise and so I can't help it but laugh my ass off every time I defeat Gaius on the elevator. Edit: On another note, I'd love it if anyone knew a mod that changes the male midlander animations or at least their sprinting animation. It always felt off to me compared to the other races' animations.

[@evaboeglin5690]

I think another big part of why third party tools aren't allowed is because the devs want the game to be fully available to both console and PC players. If third party tools and plugins are allowed carte blanche, there will arise an issue of people (or PF particularly) not allowing console players to join their party for HL content because console players do not have access to tools like ACT and melon. There's already a bit of that, but it would become much more prevalent if third party tools were openly allowed. Hence why the devs don't really care if you make your Hrothgar have a huge bulge or whatever, but will say something if people are showing themselves using third party tools to raid.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

yes for sure, they want to keep it fair between PC and Console, but unfortunately everyone knows that there will naturally be a big gap in fairness when it comes to consoles vs computers

[@KnightDarkcrow]

I KNOW THAT BNUUI! THAT'S MY FRIEND BOA! LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Very nice bnnuy, prayge

[@RahmpageChicken]

I actively use anamnesis to figure out what glams I want to acquire next, and it's ultimately what pushed me to savage raiding (Aspho chest glams are goated). I also use it to help others with their glams :P

[@Witchezghost]

I'm actually laughing, my friend took a screenshot of my gpose in the video and showed me, I literally got out of bed to watch this. IM THE SEXY AURA.

[@Max44321]

Mods are amazing and super fun, really add to the experience of the game. Especially when you add in so, so many things the game is missing. Like individual chat name colors, or CHAT BUBBLES! Mods helping with fishing and hunts are also amazing.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

QoL can take one's experience so so far!

[@dhoward720]

How does one even use mods like this? I've seen mods for replacing gear with other stuff but how are you full on changing your characters proportions?

[@234Spotman]

My fave mod is Porch, knowing what song is playing in a zone and being able to play music whenever I want :> I love Soken’s music!

[@BitBlush]

Customization+ lets you modify the shapes and sizes of any bodypart by modifying the model's skeleton itself. First thing I did was make my miqo'te's ears into fennec ears, extended my bangs and twintails, and I've loved it ever since.

[@pantheamurasaki]

we stan YAB users here. (even if I'm more of a rue girlie myself, I still need those buff arms and watermelon crushers)

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

thank God for YAB, and Rue, we love a good tumtum

[@Lineyakitty]

I just started using body mods previously I just did ui stuff and the Viera hat mod. But the skyworker's singlet top made my boobs look really blocky from the side and so change was needed!

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

the immersion, Mason!

[@Norbert_Sattler]

You misunderstood something. What is illegal in Japan is to mod the console, i.e. to crack the console's OS. Modding a game installed on the console (or a PC) is a completely different thing, despite the same word being used. The worst that can happen to your for installing a mod in your FF14 is a ban of your FF14 account. Thankfully our lord and saviour Yoshi P. said between the lines "Use whatever you like, but keep it as the down low." So as long as you don't go and harrass people over their DPS in the meter, nobody will mind, regardless which country you are in. So far the only mod I used is Hrothgar and Viera hats.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

From what I saw in research it gave the impression that everything that alters a game's files is dubbed illegal, but Squeenix also has the ideology of "Out of sight, out of mind" just to ignore the other players' enjoyment

[@billy65bob]

@@SamTheLemonBoyThat is what their TOS States. Basically they made everything that modifies or injects into the game (Reshade, Steam/discord/gog/epic/etc Overlays, dalamud, etc) against TOS. But quite ironically their specific provisions make auto-clickers 100% within TOS - Because they interact with some external system (Window manager) that just happens to interact with the game.

[@Carlos-qg2me]

i had the same reaction as the angel lalafell 💀

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

me too, actually

[@Carlos-qg2me]

@@SamTheLemonBoy id like to know how you modded the armor tho? im new to the game so i just know the mod for the face hair, but the body one doesnt work on armors (im a degenerate too)

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

@Carlos-qg2me it depends on the body, some armors fit different bodies so you have to filter out the body type you use and find an armor you like, or commission a modder to make the armor of your choice fit the body, so for example if you use Gen3 and download an armor for Bibo, it won't show because they aren't compatible, if that makes sense!

[@matusakclowes9188]

Honestly I've always been scared to death to try mods in FFXIV. I play a male viera because I like the body structure and poses, but I wish I could play without the ears and maybe a longer hair. Sadly I'm too much of a coward to use mods for that because I fear SE will ban me if I start posting screenshots of my character just because of that-

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

So long as you aren't so open with things like your character's full alias/name and just keeping it on socials, it should be fine, a lot of people are doing it and they aren't being so open about their characters identity and such

[@EpicJosueJedi]

Wait till he sets up Mare Syncronus and joins a lewd syncshell, now that's the real ffxiv modding experience (stuck in balmung as we speak)

[@TheNikolasC]

Part of me was always a stickler for vanilla, and as little modding as possible - and I still am. BUT, my new friend group nudged me to install some, and I said "okay just qol and whatever you guys have so I can see your char as you wish them to be with their changes" and here I am being a goofball looking at stuff like animation updates for certain jobs - literally have the Friday Night dance from Yakuza 0 , etc. who knows, I might dabble in it one day more, but it def makes the game more fun and goofy

[@Corva7]

What a great video. You made your point clear and all the reasons you presented are well explained. Awesome work Lemon!

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Thank you, I'm really glad you think so!

[@linus11vf1j]

Mods outside of ACT pre-mare i remember being a niche or very private thing. The second that mare was introduced really allowed for the community to explode and that expression to come out into the public. With penumbra and ktsis enabling easier access to them and gposing. I personally subscribe to the model of "If you're not good enough without it, do you deserve to have it?" I played the game since 2018 vanilla, raid, gpose, fashion contests, etc. and still done well without them. Then i got mods and it amplified and added options to that core foundation. However, i make sure to not be dependent on it, and a key thing did cone to mind. I want the character i see to be seen with the same impression by everyone. You've done that very well by basically looking the same with a few enhancements, but not wildly different from vanilla. I know others look entirely different from their vanilla, and in a way it detracts from more public interaction because of it. Also it's always disconcerting to see a lot of the players act like drug addicts on withdrawal every patch cycle waiting for mods to update, and then shooting up as soon as they're back.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

I fully get where you're coming from, and it's funny to imagine the concept of withdrawals because it can give that impression

[@vajra6888]

im not kidding when i say that I found lifelong friends through big pp hrothgar mods

[@SlimeyCube26]

What… 😧 (this made me spit my coffee)

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

amazingly based

[@muchmercy3449]

the world changes when you discover player mod syncing

[@SwiftGale1]

Used to be a console player. Up until a couple years ago I had a potato laptop that could barely run most games on "The dirt is brown and there are no shadows" quality. Found a static near the start of Endwalker's second raid tier, and played with them for a good while. By the end of that tier, they had me convinced to buy it on PC and start modding. Started off small with some minor body tweaks and glamour options. Turned into ACT (And while I love this thing sometimes, at least to give me an idea if I'm doing good damage or not, I can admit I am probably pretty silently toxic with it), class reworks and emote swaps. Can't understate how much I agree that modding makes this game better. Even for someone like me with next to zero creativity. Just a shame that DT kinda broke everything like that for over a month (And most are still broken).

[@XenoJoker]

Can someone link me to the orange Justice mods? Im having a hard time finding it.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

sure! here's for Female: www.xivmodarchive.com/modid/38240 here's for Male: www.xivmodarchive.com/modid/38239

[@XenoJoker]

@@SamTheLemonBoy bro, thank you so much.

[@MakeItMetal239]

FFXIV is an incredible game, and having mods enhances the experience of the fantasy. It is amazing the love and dedication that mod creators have to make this game even more attractive to the public and community. thanks to mods the game will never feel the same and there is always going to be something new and fun to keep us engage in this game.

[@devxved]

Just got into modding because my e wife made me, dont regret it. The whole FC syncshell shenanigans are so worth it.

[@StartouchArts]

Mods are truly a wonderful thing. Using mods and plugins, I was able to turn my WoL's scales pure white and enlarge his tail to reflect the Light corruption he dealt with in Shadowbringers, as well as just making him a bit chubby thanks to Customize+. Whenever an update happens and mods get turned off it's genuinely WEIRD to see him with his normal tan Raen scales and super thin.

[@Zedonus0]

The Lalas on the shoulders was 🤌🏾. Them Lil deviants were perfect for getting the point across.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

The devil one is just like me frfr

[@ark5074]

Cosmetic mods have made the game so much better for me and made me wanna farm glamour I never would’ve gone for otherwise. I love them, now if only I could find some good short side hair mods for my bnuy lol.

[@SonySteals]

Long story short: Big bewbs mods made him play more ff14. Also, his character is his waifu

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Kinda true

[@boanoah6362]

One thing to remember, you really only need to be 'good' at your job in higher end content, storymode, dungeons, trials, hardmode, extremes, whatever it's totally fine. If you're not proging an Ultimate or going into Savage Raids you're okay to suck.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

But it would be really nice to have an ability to play better than decent in casual content too, but naturally there is no real incentive to do so

[@boanoah6362]

@@SamTheLemonBoy Oh for sure, there's never anything wrong with playing better or striving to improve. More so just a reminder for anyone watching that if they just want a casual experience it's more than fine too.

[@obamaorb7426]

I spent like 5k combined hours on ps4/ps5. When i finally decided to build a pc i realised i was playing a whole different game for those 5k hours

[@Zullala]

I really wish that the base game would at least add some new hair styles. I want some punky styles. I used to have a lot of mods but my computer had an oopsy and I lost them all. I haven't downloaded any of them again, not even reshade. Well that's not entirely true, I did download reshade for about 10 minutes but then I got a direct x error and couldn't log into the game so I uninstalled it ;_;

[@katelundberg2029]

Mods saved my Ninja, I genuinely loathed the Ninja run because the character I wanted to make for my Ninja was more practical and also more into perfecting their form and the Ninja run is just arms flopping uselessly like a naruto cosplayer. Getting to use the Rogue's running animation was so huge for my enjoyment of the class and is why it's one of my 3 favorite classes so far(alongside white mage and my main Scholar)

[@LemanRussx]

Been waiting for this vid for real, also what's your hair ?

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

It's a paid mod, but here's the link to the original creator! www.patreon.com/posts/umbra-65205646

[@Scyclo]

Square Enix don't really care about cosmetic mods from what I know, I mean Yoshi-P used shapely taters lol. I use subtle cosmetic mods and body mods like the body se, I'd use bibo+ if it didn't cause my TexTools to freeze and then subsequently my fucking computer to also freeze. Idk why that happens to me, it's weird. I also have a face modifier that makes the faces more detailed and crisp it really pairs well with the body se and bibo+ and then a hair up reser to improve the way hair looks.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

I believe that they don't care as well, but they will have this stance because of consoles, surely

[@billy65bob]

Maybe put TexTools away and look into Penumbra.

[@jtwhat3004]

Is there a source for that shapely taters claim cause I need it xD

[@chumleyhuffington1450]

I dont mind mods, but I stay away from character mods. Like if I see myself as a sexy badass, but to everyone else I look like a regular guy, it ruins it for me. So I do what I can to make the best looking characters in vanilla, so I look great no matter what. I dunno if this is a silly thing to worry about, but I think about it alot.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

That is something I always focused on, having nearly the same look vanilla and modded

[@ReveredDead]

Mods and the community in general is a huge testament to the massive success of this game. Yoshi P and SE might not approve but they can't deny that this is all just the result of success and perfection.

[@jeannecaelum5167]

Without the little helper mods and the one reading NPC unvoiced lines to me, man...mods really help a lot of people, especially the impared ones like me.

[@highping8402]

Hey, whats the name of the chest amor with the cape ?

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

It's a Reaper outfit you get at the end of the Endwalker MSQ, it's only available for Reapers

[@Jeezes718]

My general understanding is that Yoshi P doesnt much care about cosmetic mods, so long as they can't somehow improve your performance. The only thing he's really antsy about is mods that give people an edge in raids and such, as it's from a tool not everyone has/has access to. He also doesn't like people streaming this stuff because if he sees it, he is bound by law to do something.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Naturally

[@mattiemorgana]

Mods were just the thing I needed after like 5 years of playing the game. Breathed new life into the game for me. Now in my downtime I have become more social with people in the game and try to seek out other Moon Walkers to enjoy the game with as they see themselves. I'm a pretty, pretty femboy now and I've never been happier. xD

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

femboy, femboy, wokege

[@iainmuir6116]

Id be interested to know what mods are being used other than YAB+

[@bribombshell]

I mod so I can play Female Hrothgar early. Simple. It hurts no one and enhances my experience of playing. Good video.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

For sure, thank you so much!

[@predleysoom7672]

Do you have a link for your character mods? Your body preset looks amazing

[@Ms._Crimson]

Look for "Yet Another Body" it looks like that this is the body he is using.

[@court-j35t3r]

today i learned that youtube will now light up the subscribe button when the video tells you to subscribe

[@argentbast]

Mods are great fun, though I personally never use them. I can also appreciate Yoshi P’s stance of not allowing them and not asking questions. The degeneracy is a double/edged sword (in both style and combat encounters). When the alterations are small and personal, that’s great! But once it becomes something the development team has to start designing around (apart from adding new features), that’s when really nasty things can start creeping in.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Yeah, I can definitely stand by that

[@Ziploc_Wonder]

I'm so glad this reappeared, for I had forgotten about this masterpiece. Still scared to give it a try, though.

[@Kickassninja35]

What face sculpt do you use lemonboy????

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

None, it's vanilla with Asymfaces that increase the quality

[@Kickassninja35]

@@SamTheLemonBoy oh man it looks hella good props to you fr!

[@diamonddeloxdev]

Good vid, love to hear how you feel about the game n your experience.

[@diamonddeloxdev]

Also, about the Mods question: They're a nice addition to bring out people's individuality and creativity.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Yo thank you so much, that means a lot, I really appreciate the support!

[@diamonddeloxdev]

@@SamTheLemonBoy o7 Your editing and effort deserve it!

[@hufflepuffler2575]

I personally see no problems with modding. So long as you are using it for your own means and for your own character and it does not mess with anyone else's game, it should be allowed. I use mods myself and they are purely cosmetic to make my WoL's story more fleshed out.

[@SamTheLemonBoy]

Definitely

[@Thebeerhistorian]

Dude what mod did you use to customize your character? I like the curvy look!