How Much Australian Junior Doctors Earn VS UK NHS Doctors | Salary Breakdown

[@Inflammasomes]

You are often jokingly referred to as NHS refugees here in Aus.

[@DoctorKenji]

🥲🥲🥲🥲

[@christinefiedor3518]

Never heard that before and I’ve lived in Aus since 1989.

[@AhmedChughtai]

I moved out of the UK after F1 and moved to Germany and I finished my residency a year ago. When I started my residency back in 2017 I made an average salary of just above 70k Euros (Gross) as a first year resident. I think I worked about 46 Hours on average. I did Radiation Oncology as a Specialty. Over the period of about 6 year it went up to 100k+. Post Residency its a lot better and working hours in Private Practice are like max 42 hours a week. Obviously, it varies .. some slightly senoir colleagues make 200k/year for 42 Hour week. GPs in underserved areas make also very good money. Locums in Emergency Med or Pysh or Radiology pay also really well. I know some people who work about 45 Hours doing locums with a base salaray of 14k a month plus extra depending on the sessions. And the jobs are Endless.

[@julienalexander6113]

I recently watched a reaction video about this, comparing it to U.S. pay. It's unbelievable. I currently live in the U.S. but I'm planning to apply to medical school in Australia.

[@HamzaKhan0711]

But I thought usa doctors get paid the most? And theres shorter training pathways even if the residency pay isnt as high, so med school in the usa would be better no?

[@julienalexander6113]

@@HamzaKhan0711 In terms of pay, yes, but even U.S. doctors just starting out don't get compensated as they should. It's really messed up.

[@HamzaKhan0711]

@@julienalexander6113 oh really? That's interesting to hear because I feel like everyone looks towards the usa and would definitely move there given the chance, as it's seen as the 'best lifestyle' for doctors overall.

[@julienalexander6113]

@@HamzaKhan0711 It probably depends on the individual and their circumstances, but yes, better pay and lifestyle could be one way to put it. However, I wouldn't be too sure because this country also has a lot of issues.

[@Inflammasomes]

Getting on a training pathway is very hard in Australia, Intern wage are better to be sure, but be careful what you wish for. We are considering moving to the US after the Australian internship.

[@donna25871]

Also all of the professional learning that your friend (courses, membership, exams etc) does can be claimed back as tax deductions. I’m a teacher and I get back thousands a year by claiming these deductions.

[@jayswish857]

2 mins if you want what you came for 02:00

[@OllieTudor]

would love to see the same video for USA

[@DoctorKenji]

Soon come!!

[@dena3107]

This is a great video- well explained and to the point-but can you ask your friend about living expenses compared to UK? He received approx £3.7k per month but will bills and rent be more expensive in Aus that it would counteract the benefits of higher salary?

[@DoctorKenji]

Thank you! From what he said, it depends where you to choose to live and spend your money on. If you line in central Brisbane or London, it can be quite expensive. On the whole though, living costs tend to be slightly less in Aus

[@christinefiedor3518]

Can you please explain why my 89 year old mum that lives in Scotland , when she needed a hip replacement went private as the nhs waiting list was so long. It cost her £16000? Despite no complications. I live in Australia. A friend whose father in law retired out here needed the same op and had it had done privately. Again no complications but it cost $18000. That’s in uk £16000 =Au$ 31000 Australia Au $18000, A huge difference. But the care is every bit as good if not better in Oz and health care professionals get better pay. So the uk is making a killing if you excuse the unfortunate pun! Such greed! Just how much is enough? Now retired I was a double qualified RN having trained I the NHS and emigrated 30 years ago. When I got my first pay check I actually thought I had been overpaid. But it turned out I wasn’t . So better pay for working less hours. I thought all my Christmas’s had come at once.This loss of health care professionals is only going to get worse unless drastic action is taken by government in the uk. I also heard recently that uk trained nurses may have to upskill as their competencies are falling short of Oz equivalent!! Never in my wildest dream would I thought that would happen. And yet still people still say that theNHS is the best in world , but the reality is nothing could be further from the truth.

[@redaanalla9458]

can you add us and germany pls

[@DoctorKenji]

Will do!

[@redaanalla9458]

@@DoctorKenji thanks man i appreciate your efforts

[@OldProGolf]

And Romania?

[@marcusk2331]

How much would you earn per hour in year 3 as a medical doctor in 🇬🇧

[@HamzaKhan0711]

Hi Dr Kenji, so your friend who is a pgy3 in australia is he an f3? As in did he do both f1 and f2 here then went to australia as a pgy3 or f3? And thank you for your videos. They are great and we all appreciate it.

[@DoctorKenji]

You’re very welcome! :) no he trained in Australia

[@HamzaKhan0711]

@@DoctorKenji thank you for your reply dr Kenji. So if a doctor whose just completed fy2 over here in the uk chooses to go to australia for a 'gap year' or f3, will they be called a pgy3 when in australia? If not what specific level in Australian terms would they be at? Thank you for your time.

[@DoctorKenji]

@@HamzaKhan0711 yes they would be

[@HamzaKhan0711]

@@DoctorKenji Thanks for the reply. I'm going into 2nd year medicine and already looking into this stuff looooool😂😂

[@esvedra2419]

Australian healthcare is not 100% free.

[@DoctorKenji]

No, they pay a 2.5% Medicare levy as I mentioned

[@esvedra2419]

@@DoctorKenji Also high earners pay extra 1.5% surcharge if they use public healthcare. This encourages them to take out private insurance instead. It's worth noting that 50% of australians have private insurance and that reduces burden on the public sector, improves working conditions and wages. British public is extremely opposed to private sector.

[@christinefiedor3518]

@@esvedra2419 agree. I trained in the NHS as a double registered nurse and moved to Australia in 1989. Old school lol.At aged 38 I suffered a major stroke but wasn’t considered a high risk so they left no stone unturned in testing to find out the underlining cause which was a minor congenital heart defect. I lost the ability to talk, walk, swallow, balance, read, spell, count as well as the use of my right hand. With much support I rehabilitated to the point that the only residual issues I had were the non use of my right arm and hand and slight balance issues. I even found employment in tertiary education. I’ was treated as a public patient in a public hospital and could not fault the care I received. It didn’t cost me a thing.People in the uk have a blind spot when it comes to health care , and the nhs is unsustainable in its current form. Health care world wide has become very expensive but if people were made to contribute a bit more towards it then maybe they wouldn’t be so wasteful .Out here its means tested . A mix of public and private seems to work and the nhs needs total reform but right now I don’t see anyone with the underpinning background, skills , political will and the guts to successfully undertake the challenge. Wes Streeting sure has his work cut out for him.