How Much RAM Do You REALLY Need For Gaming? 🤔 (2024)

How Much RAM Does A Gaming PC need in 2024? PC Centric puts 16GB vs 32GB vs 48GB vs 64GB to the test with a RTX 4090 and i7 14700k! DDR5 memory RAM capacity and speed PC gaming benchmarks at 1440p with Ray Tracing! ⭐ Aorus G16X Laptop: bit.ly/3UxKbDQ (AD)
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00:00 How Much Ram Do YOU Need?
01:01 Testing Methodology
02:23 Hogwarts Legacy 16GB RAM
04:04 Cyberpunk 2077 16GB RAM
04:51 Planet Zoo 16GB RAM
06:13 Spider-Man Remastered 16GB RAM
06:48 CoD Warzone 16GB RAM
07:24 Changing the RAM
09:01 Hogwarts Legacy 32GB RAM
09:47 Planet Zoo 32GB RAM
10:09 CoD Warzone 32GB RAM
10:54 Cyberpunk 2077 48GB RAM
12:07 BenchMarcus Graphs
13:52 Conclusion...

[@tadejpeckaj1151]

When I was building my SFX monster I said fuck it and went for 64GB.

[@stevens1041]

I paid for four DIMM slots, I'm gonna use four DIMM slots!

[@tadejpeckaj1151]

@@stevens1041 SFX systems have ITX boards with only two slots.. but I used both well. 2x32GB of 6400MT goodness for my R9 7950 💪

[@VanadiumMC]

@@stevens1041 After I build my pc, I'm going to get the extra 32GBs

[@MrAnimescrazy]

I went with 4 sticks and 64 gigs of ddr5 with my 4090 build but I may switch to two later but I will see.

[@TritanGaming]

My mate is building his $10k and going for 128gb lol

[@VarjoPira]

32 is the sweet spot.

[@sopcannon]

16gb is bare minimum

[@Definedd]

@@sopcannon true but ram is very cheap nowadays, theres plenty of games that will push system usage over 16gb nowadays

[@MonicaHolly143]

​@@Defineddplenty ? Lol

[@stevens1041]

100%

[@sopcannon]

@@Definedd I am using 32gb of ddr4 i got for £100 3 years a go

[@itsjustdroid]

I very much appreciate you trying to control for as many of the variables possible. Some try but it seems like you have went further than most others 👍🏽

[@ARecklessNinja]

Another great video, thanks for all the bits of knowledge during the testing as well!

[@jritechnology]

As much as I want - Me, 2024.

[@mauricejohnson660]

Right when I was looking for video about ram you uploaded. Lol cheers brotha 🙏🏽🔥

[@CNC295]

Look we all know 32 gigs of Ram is the sweet spot currently.

[@delayedcreator4783]

no

[@gezimlimoni2319]

​@@delayedcreator4783and what is the right amount?

[@ALxdCr4ftPlays]

Yup. I have an i7-14700k, RTX 4080, 32GB DDR5, Samsung Pro 990 2TB SSD. As a KZbinr, when I edit even a 30 minute video, Task Manager reports my RAM use is 13GB while PowerDirector 365 is processing that video (expected final video size 13GB, 4K 30fps). And CPU running at 20% and GPU at 40%. 32GB is more safer and future proof than 16, though it depends what programs you use.

[@ALxdCr4ftPlays]

Not to mention it can have the video processing done in under 12 minutes. My old PC (i7-6700k, 16GB DDR4, GTX 1070, I got in 2016) would take 2 hours to process that kind of video editing.

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

@@delayedcreator4783 It actually is. Anything less is meant for cellphones and tablets.

[@Swatmat]

i went for 64gb DDR5 6000 CL30 for my current system, DCS world regularly uses 45+ and I've seen Star Citizen nearly hit 32 in places

[@paulct91]

DCS, a great game, wish I new how to fly better with just a keyboard and mouse, I miss the simplicity of MFS's controls.

[@Swatmat]

@@paulct91 its just not meant to be played with those controls, there is a reason fighters jets use a stick and throttle and pedals,

[@keithallison8040]

Did the same 64gb cl30 6000 works great well worth the higher cost

[@walter_the_wobot2349]

Returnal would have been a good game to test because the devs recommend 32GB

[@PcCentric]

So does Cyberpunk!

[@-Ryan-1776]

I use 32gb of ram. In games like escape from tarkov, it uses up to 26gb. This is at 1440p

[@EviljelloX]

tarkov is barely playable spaghetti code with more memory leak than a a guy with alzheimers. 16gb is fine for almost anything else barring creative workloads

[@selim7945]

I wouldn't worry about that cuz the new update which they sell 250$ pack that is completely broken. Terrible management by the devs so RIP Tarkov 👋

[@45eno]

If you had 64gb installed I bet you would see over 30gb used. The more installed the more is used. With 64gb installed I was seeing an easy 10+ gb used on boot up.

[@lsik231l]

I'm building a new PC and decided to get 48 gb ddr5 ram (24x2). I feel like that's the most balanced in terms of capacity and performance. The 24g sticks are single rank and can have better oc potential than dual rank 64/32x2 kits. So extra capacity with the benefits of a smaller stick. Plus, its easier to have 64gb+ total ram considering the amount of VRAM on GPUs these days (48 system plus 16+ VRAM). I also won't have to worry about performance issues due to having other applications open and be fairly future proofed. Can't wait to get my parts and build/tune it. Hey, PC Centric. For the next RAM video you mentioned, any chance you can do some comparisons between stock, XMP/Expo only, and XMP/Expo + tuned (tighter timings) gaming performance? Maybe that's a lot to ask, but it would be interesting to see the 1% low differences. P.S. - Looks like you guys left the zoo benchmark in your summary chart. It would have been nice to leave that one out as it was an outlier to get a more accurate picture. Cheers man.

[@andydbedford]

If you want that kind of content just go and watch Buildzoid over at actually hardware overclocking. Basically if you’re building an AMD system, then tinkering with your ram is just a major major headache just enable Expo and leave it at that. Intel are a bit different but come with its own issues too.

[@j.a.velarde5901]

Thank you! This was useful, and I am on the verge of a purchase.

[@mylovereviews]

Great infomation for me. thanks

[@MrAnimescrazy]

I went with my first all white high end build with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 ram in the phanteks nv7. I also went with the phanteks screen to fill in some space and the phanteks gpu vertical bracket angled back. The build is sick and I clean it monthly. I may switch the ram from 4 sticks to 2 sticks at a later time when new motherboards, new ram and the 5090 comes out. I will see when everything comes out and after reviews from the youtube tech community.

[@EmeraldMakesTapes]

Hey I'm looking into what pc I want for my bday in around 3 months but I'm really struggling, some pcs may be a scam or not as good as i think. Just by looking at your channel I know you are an expert, what fairly priced good PC should I get?

[@tommyrotton9468]

what's always running in the background is the answer the more you have multi tasking the more you'll need for example Tech once said he ran video editing software whilst he gamed, so of course he says get 64Gb. I have 32Gb and at worst have Edge running a radio station broadcast, never fill up the RAM unless I add more and more tasks. VRAM might well be the must get 16 or more VRAM for ultra settings in the near future?

[@YacovIchao8903]

Hi PC Centric I have a question How about all the tutorials on the net And especially on KZbin To improve computer performance? All kinds of guides to change settings on a Windows computer and such called pc optinization guide etc. and use all kinds of software to improve the computer And there are many of them I'm interested in hearing your opinion on the matter Do they really help improve computer performance

[@farazsiddiqui1312]

Does ram matter with resolution for example 1440p vs 4k??

[@YuniorGamboa]

I started with 16 GB on a pre-built and then upgraded it to 64GB If you can, then do this. Future proves it as much as possible for 5 years

[@Shinigami-gk2mr]

i have 32gb of corsair dominator titanium ddr5 7200mhz ram and I'm loving it, I'm playing at 1440p on a Samsung odyssey g7 32 inch monitor

[@andydbedford]

I’ve just finished a 7800X3D + RTX 4090 build and put 32gb Corsair vengeance 6000 mt/s CL30 and it just buttery smooth running cyberpunk, Hogwarts legacy an Alan Wake2 maxed out at 1440p ultrawide. I would say if you are building a new system just get the 32gb kit run it in dual channel, enable xmp/expo and it you will be just fine. Great video Marcus 👍

[@Foley58]

I found out of all the games I tested on my build , CoD/warzone has the least impact stressing the system

[@manicseamonkey]

Using 32Gb @5600Mts (2x16) with a i7 13700K. Picked up another identical kit to make it 64Gb but have not got around to installing it yet. Slightly drunken purchase on eBay when no one else was bidding. Not sure I really need it.

[@CStove]

I went with 96 gigs. My motherboard max is 192, so I just went with half that. So far, very smooth!😊

[@paulct91]

No, go higher, after ram prices settle, eventually, it can be fun using Primocache to help cache all that ram as really fast external storage buffer, its quite taxing but looks cool at least.

[@CStove]

@@paulct91 I'll bump it to 192 sometime in the future, for sure.

[@DaAngelGarcia]

Bench Marcus is the mannnnn 🖥

[@jokingtiger]

You could have just run all of the ram kits at stock speeds no XMP. That way capacity is the only difference. But what do I know.

[@Lil_Puppy]

I have 64gb and it's barely enough if I have to open a guide on Chrome. But seriously, 32 would have been fine but who knows what I'll do with it in the future! Probably sell the other 32gb cause I don't do video editing.

[@FND1337]

To see the RAM utilization would have made sense. 😢

[@Justtwodangmany]

😂 Itd be a 60 second video if he opened performance manager in every game with 64gb installed. "Is it over 32?" No: 32 is enough Yes: 40 or 64 is needed. So there ya have it, cheers! /video

[@get2choppa429]

Was ram usage even showing in frame view on afterburner?

[@apex12307]

can you please test on microsoft flight simulator 2020

[@buki231]

2x24gb @ 8200mt is the sweet spot on my 2 dimm apex encore mobo. Some games and apps definitely benchmark linearly with faster memory speeds. Dont think there is a a difference in quantity other than my system is stable with 2x24 hynix m die vs 2x16 hynix a die.

[@Randalsgaming]

I had just bought a 7800x3d build with 4080 super for 1080p so in fact people would want to see this difference on a bigger scale.

[@filip799]

Hello, i need help, should i buy pc that has i9 13900k 4070 32 gb of ram 1tb ssd or ryzen 9 7900 4070 32 gb of ram and 2tb, im goint to game but also do video editing, what should i pick ( both of them are the same price). Plz help

[@VenkataRamachandra]

Hi bro Lenovo Legion Slim 5 16APH8 (82Y9000QUS) $899 and Lenovo LOQ 15IRX9 (83DV00FXUS) $890 Which one is better to buy in 2024. Or is here any other Gameing laptops in this price point. Please reply. Thank you 😊

[@ethengreen]

Whenever I am building a gaming pc the minimum RAM has always been and will continue to be 32GB. For me 16gb just is not enough even if people say that it is.

[@teboho_26]

I'm on 10gb(8+2).. and i play forbidden west & cyberpunk pretty fine😂 so maybe anything above 8gb is golden. I don't do anything heavy besides gaming.

[@michaelosmolski]

I am in the market for DDR5 64GB kits but struggling to get confirmation of which ones have DIMM sensors. I want Aida64/Hwmon to show me DIMM temps but not all mem manufacturers have thermal sensors on their modules. I would love all YT memory reviews to include system monitoring stats, showing all SPD timings, temps (if supported) etc.

[@ice.3000]

Get Gskill DDR5 64Gb cl30

[@michaelosmolski]

@@ice.3000 was looking at gskill but so many options. I prefer a non rgb 64 kit that has sensors, can you suggest one?

[@ice.3000]

@@michaelosmolski G.skill Trident Z5 non rgb

[@TheLordNugget]

I play a lot of 7 Days to Die. When you run stuff in the background and especially when you have Chrome open, the system can definitely hit 16 or even 17 GB in use. I'd gone all in with 64 GB, so it wasn't an issue, but it was a bit of a surprise as I had thought that 16 GB was fine for gaming. 32 GB is definitely the sweet spot these days.

[@qrogueuk]

In Jan 2020, I built with 64GB never really considered less at the time. Just means I can run more software at the same time and I don't just use my PC for gaming.

[@GGGryphonZ]

32GB is definitely the sweet spot but i went with 64GB

[@MrAnimescrazy]

Yup me too just in case and I like to have more then what I need.

[@RohanSanjith]

48gb is ss

[@LyricalViking]

Recommended for overall stability: 32GB's Minimum: 16GB Overkill: 64GB

[@daniil3815]

Talking about realistic approach. You had to test with other apps opened, realistic use case of pc.

[@jiinx72]

I'm going 64gb of ram on my next build. More than enough seeing there's no advantage to having huge ram we see in some ytube shorts build aka 128gb ram builds. Yes I'm putting 64gb ram but it's a steal add it'll probably be my last pc build outside of small upgrades. All my builds I've done for my family have 32g seeing that's a sweet spot add they don't play triple A games.

[@kshitijrastogi1]

Bro use MSI Afterburner RTSS, how many times I've to remind you! RAM usage was not even showing in the FrameView.

[@AlexHusTech]

I know right, was the first thing I was looking for to see the actual usage!

[@NO1SCOUTFINDINGTHATFUTURESTAR]

thanks marcus your video always helpful. your legend mate

[@richardbarnhurst5789]

I've got 64gb of DDR5 with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D all I'm gonna say you go in Ryzen Master to put the CPU in game mode and everything just crashes so I'm gonna say and AMD side it doesn't really matter as it's unstable loool

[@ryogaming4771]

Now do the same thing with discord, 2 monitors ,msi afterburner etc openened

[@smoothboye4203]

And your HDD is like ignoring the pen and setting up a typewriter

[@xlr555usa]

I had a testbed system that couldn't run Star Citizen with 16gb. It was poky and the devs provided a warning about the memory limit. You also want to have headroom, 16gb is not good enough for 2024 and beyond. My next monster workstation will have 128gb.

[@SVSpc13]

Hogwarts Legasy on AM4. 1440p and everything on max including R.T. I was hitting 22GB on the RAM alone.

[@kingcrackedhen3572]

32gb is my go to, though right now I have 48gb (2x16+2x8) and I’ll admit there is zero difference I have noticed going up unless minecraft is your game of choice

[@cocopuffz604]

32 in total. 16 for the game, the other 16 for other apps in the bg while you game. Discord. We browser. All the launchers etc. The movie running on the 2nd screen in HDR 4K

[@theguycanfly98]

I like the MW3/Warzone inclusion most youtubes don't really test it

[@sarahwilliams1956]

So where is this video I was promised on the Thermaltake SWAFAN EX fans because it’s been a month and I’m waiting patiently Marcus

[@eminpasha7472]

Wondering I have 64gb 6000mhz but two have different vaultage. 32gb different vault.

[@Motion_God]

I have 64 gigs overclocked at 6600mgz

[@sokola311]

32 is great for me. Mushkin RED baby!

[@Pendif]

I was playing my ram when to 98% on 16 gb of ram do i need 32 gb ?

[@spyderzetta3391]

Now, have a stream on your second monitor (or anime, movie, etc), multiple tabs open in your web browser (ouch if you are using Chrome as its ram use heavy), games downloading in the background from steam etc, while playing your game at 4K 60fps. Not to mention all the background windows OS tasks (prefetch, etc). Then come back and tell me you only need 16GB of RAM memory. 16 GB is fine if the only thing you plan on doing is game. But if you are mulittasking heavily, you will need more than 16GB to have a smooth gaming experience AND be able to multitask effectively on everything else PC. I just stick to 16GBx2 🤷‍♂️ always have enough headroom, just my 2cents.

[@bigalamos]

What make of keyboard is that?

[@fightinirish2079]

Sounds about right

[@Zelkova48]

ok now tell me how to download more RAM, i need to upgrade mu PC

[@drennin9352]

Well, first you must take out your CPU and dip it in liquid nitrogen. This will actually enhance the performance of the CPU so that you can upgrade your RAM without any bottlenecking.

[@DeadPiixxel]

got a 4090 because I want to play at 1440p 144fps longer

[@MrAnimescrazy]

What are the rest of your specs?

[@ALxdCr4ftPlays]

32GB DDR5. Especially for games which are as demanding as Microsoft Flight Simulator and Cyber Punk if you want to play those in 4k ultra with ray tracing.

[@rabb1tjones921]

Didn't you just need to run them all at JDEC base, then they would all be at the same speed ?

[@TheHangarHobbit]

I upgraded to 64GB of RAM from 32GB with my 5700X and here is what benches won't tell you...with 64GB of RAM thanks to Windows caching EVERYTHING I use often is preloaded into RAM so launches instantly. Browser? BAM. Music Player? BAM. Video editor? BAM. Hell when I play War Thunder with my buds I usually have to tell them what map we are getting as thanks to Windows caching I'm already picking my load out before they even get the load screen, it's just BAM and I'm in. So when my 5700X gets too long in the tooth to game I'll be going 64Gb minimum if not 128 simply because everything going BAM feels just too damn good.

[@chaneclarke4234]

Can a 9800 amd graphic card run cod mw 3 remastered?????😅😅😅😅

[@DavidPrime-bf5mp]

Is it worth getting ryzen 7 8700g over ryzen 5 8600g please

[@onedayatatime723]

Are you gonna stay on integrated graphics for more than 2 years?

[@morgangiles5768]

I bought mine second hand and my processor is beefy compared to my GPU gonna upgrade to a RTX 4060.

[@no-zb7lb]

I think 32 should be minimum what y'all think about?

[@ChillyNuts4u]

nah 16gb minimum but 32gb is sweet spot, depends though, if you do professional/creative work then 32gb is minimum and 64gb+ recommended

[@no-zb7lb]

@@ChillyNuts4u hmm you are right tooo BTW thanks but what about streaming and gaming which one should be good

[@ChillyNuts4u]

@@no-zb7lb streaming and gaming you will be fine with 32gb, I used to stream with only 16gn and that was completely fine :)

[@kylerclarke2689]

Not having ram usage on the overlay is ludicrous

[@nrgaquafreshyt2434]

with 8gb of my ram cuz if i use my other stick it blue screens idk what to do if i should buy some more or nah

[@-Ryan-1776]

Definitely buy more

[@Adam-fz6sj]

@@-Ryan-1776 Check compatibility with your mobo and make sure the ram you have works with your system properly.

[@nrgaquafreshyt2434]

thanks guys

[@-Ryan-1776]

@@Adam-fz6sj my system works just fine. Used same gskill trident z in both msi and gigabyte boards. Perfectly compatible with both those boards.

[@Deadmansc1ick]

What is the tool in the top left of screen that is used to see cpu/gpu temp, frame rate etc. new to pc. Just finished my first build and getting my head around everything. Thanks. 👍

[@drennin9352]

I am also wondering this. Just bought my first prebuilt and it is arriving tomorrow. So I want to see how people are using that tool to see their benchmarks lol.

[@PcCentric]

Nvidia Frameview

[@drennin9352]

@@PcCentric Thank you so much!

[@Deadmansc1ick]

@@PcCentric Thank you my good man. Appreciated.

[@kreed9323]

Can someone please help me. So I’m getting a RTX 4070 GPU and I’m getting an Intel i7 13700K ( My motherboard is only compatible with intel CPUs apparently) Anyway I was wondering is this enough to play most games at 1080p/1440p at high settings with at least 60fps? I should also say that I have 32gb of RAM

[@mattjvideos3663]

Ye some games will run 4k on medium settings with that combo

[@JayzBeerz]

64GB is so cheap it should be the minimum.

[@dalehammers4425]

There is zero point in not having at least 32 GB today. And the results were pretty much dead on to what I expected. The only reason you would actually go higher than 32 though is future proofing.

[@GazMoore]

Gaming Laptops are cool to watch a review on and dream but to actually own one over a pc is hilarious 😂

[@Adam-fz6sj]

Hogwarts likes 20+ gigs of ram. Plus, it seems to play better at 32 GIGS at 6000 MTs CL 30 over 64 GIGS at 5200 MTS CL 38 judging by the 2 Rigs I now own and previously owned. My old Mobo died and took out the ram, so I upgraded.

[@MonkeyMan125431]

Do you still experience stutters when playing? I’m considering upgrading from DDR4 to DDR5 and wondering if that would fix or improve the stuttering

[@Adam-fz6sj]

@@MonkeyMan125431 Small random stutters when something starts in the background or when windows does its check for updates, nothing big so I would go for 32 GIGs CL30 at 6000 MTs over CL38 but only if you can find the ram for a good price and it works with your motherboard.

[@86ericg]

Moore ramm you wont og to worried about memory chache on hard drive or virtual memory

[@superidiot232]

and in all of your "testing" we still don't know how much ram was each game using... and how can it be that you get more fps with 64GB than with 32GB if you set it identically and if game is lets say using 12GB of ram?

[@ARK2022]

Just put (8*2)16gb 5200mhz. Its good for now. Later add another 8x2 ram.

[@Daddy-.-]

Def a good question. Some like to just game on their pc whilst others like to game, play music, stream and watch videos on one pc all at the same time (well not videos and music but you’ll be surprised)😅

[@AB-dx1co]

Anyone still rockin 4gb ddr3 in 2024

[@EviljelloX]

no

[@Ksukiyomi]

no

[@MachoGoat]

No

[@raz9800]

I had 8gb ddr3, but just upgraded to 32gb ddr5

[@Ksukiyomi]

@@raz9800 massive jump 🔥

[@Luck_Vods]

I got say, isn’t these tests unfair? Like, one of the things that RAM do (or the only thing it does) is being able to run more stuff on the computer. With other words, if you want to play 8 games at the same time (for some reason) buy more, if you only will use like a game and discord go for less.

[@Vialli100.]

I have 32gb G-Skill TridentZ neo 3600..

[@mauricejohnson660]

How is it performing

[@Vialli100.]

@@mauricejohnson660 Very well, in benching it performs above expectations (Userbenchmark).. I used the same memory (except DDR5) for my nephews build and it is also great memory..

[@barnsleyj96]

I run 32gb and it’s definitely the sweet spot

[@PoserGalore]

32 is the new 16

[@kesamek8537]

8Gb or 16Gb for League of Legends, World of Warcraft, Runescape, Roblox, Minecraft, CS:GO ... that's nearly the entire PC gaming market right there. Keep it real bro.

[@stawsky]

At this point 32Gb is absolutely minimum. I watching this video with only 1 tab open and nothing else and of course some apps working in a background and PC use nearly 10gb of ram add a game to it and it seriously can hurt your game performance. I do have 64Gb in my PC because is necessarily. As Big Fan of Skyrim I do have have quite big mod list (3500+) and there are locations (for example outside of Whiterun) where PC while playing taking over 50Gb of ram....

[@lsik231l]

Nice. I went with 48 gbs to mod and play Skyrim again. Figured I'd need more if there's enough mods installed lol.

[@stawsky]

@@lsik231l I think 48gb for heavy modded Skyrim is absolutely minimum. I just checked and all my mods take 565gb disc spaces…. Originally I wanted to go with 48gb because You can OC better then 64gb but is fine.I was able my from 6400Mhz 32-39-39-102 to 6800Mhz 30-30-40-40 and they are perfectly stable with Intel and Rtx.

[@SNFDNSD]

you'd make a decent Peter Parker or Harry Potter.

[@elroacho]

Why no 96gb option

[@simonbaker7462]

I dont build my pc for today, i bet if we looked back so many years 8gb was optimal. Give it next year or year after it will be 32gb.

[@JohnAlzayat]

Leaving this comment before watching: 32GB is the new minimum/sweetspot.

[@DraughanTV]

Need ? 8gb. Will enjoy having ? 32 and beyond.

[@Bobby_Duncan]

As much as i can download

[@user-yq4us7ys5x]

Noti gang!!

[@dystopia-usa]

64gb if you want to build a proper system that you don't have to upgrade during its typical 5-6 year lifespan.

[@ItsJake531]

Is DDR 5 THAT much of an upgrade from DDR 4?

[@VelvetThunderB99]

No wait for DDR6 in 2026

[@PcCentric]

I did a video all about this :)

[@OutsideDuhBox]

By 2026 32gb is gonna be the bare minimum required...

[@genasgenas]

Console vs Pc *No troubleshooting *No tinkering *No maintenance *No stutter *No crashing *No horrible ports *No cheaters *No noise *Less heat *Much less electricity usage (hundreds of $$$ in a few years) *Extreme depreciation $3000 Pc will cost less than 2000 in 2years+. Console 449 and after 4 years still £409 . **If it makes you feel better, you can replace "NO" with "Much less" Pc gamers say that games are cheaper? All I see here in UK £2-10 cheaper. And console gamers have to pay subscribsion right? You will pay for electricity much more so forget what you saved here. I almost never buy games. For the last 26 months I paid only £4 a month for Game pass Ultimate and played lots of good games for free. Now playing Diablo 4, Star Wars Jedi Survivor . Amazing value. So I would have game pass no matter what. Just these 2 games paid off all my 2years+ of game pass. PS5 better than 3060. In a few months PS5Pro will be coming out,probably will be close to 4060ti - 4070 I like to press and play and I got no time and patience to deal with all the Pc stuff. I wouldnt play console if I cant choose 60fps. All Xbox X optimized games I played have option of 60fps or 120. Things have changes since Xbox X and PS5 came out, no need for Pc.