How Much Time Should You Spend on Artifact Farming? | Genshin Impact

[@jyolikearock_]

Is this a guide or did I just trick you into watching my Akademiya dissertation? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ This was a passion project of mine that I was working on for several weeks before I quit Genshin earlier in 2023, which I've just got back around to wrapping up. There are already a lot of excellent guides on the topic of Artifact Farming, so this video might not bring anything groundbreaking to the table, but I'm still hoping there are some interesting things you can take away from the approach I've taken in tackling this topic.

[@michaellouiegredorjr3551]

Hello! Will the artifact simulator be available for public use?

[@benutzernamenichtverfugbar4977]

In essence, this was nothing new for me, but I really liked your examples with some actual numbers. Helps to put it into perspective. Also, very nice visualization of the data. Great Guide for new players. And yes, you can really feel how annoying it can be to farm artifacts for characters, who only really care about Crit + ATK or HP vs. characters, who utilize many stats. Virtually all my Emblem artifacts end up getting several EM rolls. Unfortunately, I have only one Xiangling, so...

[@zungsle]

Looking forward to your abyss guide

[@azralia4265]

With so many Artifacts and Character scalings to take note of, I wish some would make an excel focused on which Artifacts to KEEP and which to feed.

[@UnusualDeathCause]

This is just what I did by looking at how artifact system works. Perfect artifacts arent worth my time, never farmed them. But this mathematical proof is very cool.

[@NakamaGenshin]

I think one thing to consider while looking at artifacts tho is, that you don't only build one character, but multiple ones, which means that "leftover" artifacts can still be an dps increase for your other characters.

[@MinaAfton-t2f]

That's what i do, I select a few more characters that I put into consideration when I'm pulling my main character, i manged to strongbox a few artifacts for sucrose and sayu while also farming for hutao, and even ended up with some nice elemental dmg bonus off pieces (usually electro which I don't need atm but I can't just throw a double crit goblet like that)

[@Punchbadguy]

It's the reason domains like vermillion/echoes is less desirable to farm since only two characters really want to farm that domain. Compare that to Gilded/Deepwood and the number of characters that want or can be built with those artifacts makes that domain stronger.

[@picapica8266]

@@MinaAfton-t2f i do the same but with EM DMG pieces only, for the 5th free piece of artifacts.

[@alexprus7953]

​@@PunchbadguyGilded/Deepwood, Marachussy/Golden Troupe and Emblem/Shimenawa are probably the most resin efficient domain

[@frooploof]

What if the set is very niche and specific

[@YeddoYT]

How is this not more popular? Easily the most in-depth, cohesive breakdown of resin allocation I've ever seen

[@rcisneros8567]

because people can barely read, let alone understand statistics.

[@merydex7717]

Because the video is inherently useless, there is not one point you couldn't have figured out by yourself after playing around with artifacts or just using logic. Even the numbers shown for resin farming recommendation make no sense to recommend as the only purpose is statistical.

[@Dysceme]

​@@merydex7717 On the contrary, this video is quite valuable. Even though I can kinda agree that some key takeaways are just logic, this video is just worth watching for anyone not familiar with Genshin or gacha games in general. Like you said, if you play enough, you can figure out a lot by yourself (e.g. focusing on main stats is the most important). But this video is there to prevent a lot of new people (and old players who don't think too much about efficiency) to waste resin and 5-star artifacts. It gives them a rough goal for artifact farming.

[@nodrvgs]

@@merydex7717it is definitely not useless. Whilst most of us have already figured out how to effectively allocate our resin spending, not everyone would’ve figured out the time period of obtaining meaningful artifacts.

[@aonion2915]

​@@merydex7717 It could be, if you're someone who has done those. But if you're someone who: Doesn't play genshin regularly Is still unfamiliar with the deeper aspects of the game and just follows the easiest "tell-you-exactly-what-to-do" guides Plays various other games, with less priority on genshin Perhaps you haven't yet, or will never, reach that one point. It's great to think outside your perspective when questioning why something exists. Is it helpful for someone in a different position than yours?

[@ShelbyLikesStuff]

It has just occurred to me that not everyone just says “fuck it we ball” and hope for the best when it comes to building characters

[@R3belyc1ous]

Fr

[@driloni1burri119]

Wait people dont

[@lakkycharms]

those people dont know how to have fun

[@WD_Unieles]

Yeah we fucking balllllll

[@nodrvgs]

😭😭😭😭

[@aluinkali7100]

Damn the quality of your videos is so top notch. You present high level concepts in such a digestible form. I’m a day one player who basically lives in the abyss, so I don’t necessarily learn a lot of new things. But it’s still so nice to get a refresher of this quality every once in a while. Especially when it’s supported by great material like this simulation. I‘d definitely send every new player your way since your videos could be super valuable to them.

[@ACG0204]

Totally agree! 💯

[@DwarfLordGeorge]

having grinded for 11 weeks of deepwood getting no em deepwood headpieces, I feel robbed.

[@Dragonape12]

Damn sucks i feel your Pain tho with farming vermillion set when chasm came out farmed for 6months got only 1 anemo dmg piece it rolled shit

[@Lunaa22lovegood_stanstuff]

I have been in navia's domain since her release and have not gotten any upgrades since cloudretainer 🤡

[@archangel2301]

i swear dude.... i have been farming that domain for kuki, alhaitham and dendro mc and have yet to get them into even a decent 4 pc... i have drowned around 2000 resin in that domain already...

[@alexeystarkov7504]

Welcome to GI artifact RNG, it's even worse than wishing system

[@apirtayooo]

I spent 5 months on that domain for Nahida but my AlHaitham got good pieces and instead she got a mid EM sands 😔

[@yr4hcaZ]

another advantage to strongboxing is that it lets you skip domains with only one good set (VV/maidens) and instead farm a more resin efficient domain like golden troupe or gilded, effectively farming 3 sets at the same time. I'd love to see how this pans out in the simulation

[@see_yl]

I ran simulations for this exact issue. The results vary a lot because we don't have the data to know if a given artifact is "good" or even the % for 4-liners (Strongboxing for example has a higher % for 4-liners than domains but we don't know by how much) But I've come to these conclusions: Given 2 domains with one domain containing the artifact set we want but having a bad set as the second option and a domain where both artifact sets are desireable. If we strongbox every "bad" piece resulting from farming these domains into the artifact set from the "inefficient" domain the numbers are as follows: 1) Farming the efficient domain and strongboxing will result in 25.5 - 33.4% more total "good" artifacts 2) Farming the "inefficient" domain and strongboxing will result in 1.53x - 2.2x faster time aquiring the artifact set that we actually want

[@yr4hcaZ]

Interesting findings! Combined with Jyo's takeaways, I think the best practice is therefore to farm the inefficient domain for 2 weeks to get 70-80% of the power budget from main stats, then strongbox the rest while farming a more efficient domain since you'd only care about good artifacts at that point anyway

[@see_yl]

@@yr4hcaZ Yeah I guess that works, what I took away from my findings though is just farming efficient domains is going to be better in the long run. Yes, it will take longer to build some characters but it's not like we are in a rush as players to build our characters.

[@yr4hcaZ]

fair point. also worth mentioning that artifacts which can be strongboxed are from older domains, so it's unlikely you'd be in a rush to farm it regardless

[@picapica8266]

@@see_yl honestly the only reason i wanted my chars to have very good stats is for abyss 12th floor. I'm AR 56 now and only managed to full star till 11-3. Tried doing the 12-1 this time and died. The ennemies are just too strong, aka have enormous amounts of HP. And i hate the fungis bcuz to get the good drops, i can't atk with either Elec or pyro, wich are the best chars i have so have to go with bloom reac. But do those dendro cores only explode when the time is up, or if i were to trigger a react and create sum more it forces them explode ? Bcuz i don't do much dmg like that and rn i have Nahida with EM, Dendro dmg and crit and do 5k pure Dendro DMG so was wondering if i could do more dmg with full em...

[@drthirdworld3190]

I didn't know about the strongbox artifacts being more likely to have 4 substats. This is a great breakdown, and really seems similar to my experience building characters like Xiangling vs characters like Ayaka.

[@Juanni]

I know right? I’ve been playing fairly consistently since launch and I never knew strongbox was even better than I thought

[@nikamri]

Bro, wake up and decide to write a thesis about artifacts farming

[@fhrog]

well somebody has to do it, there's a video about anything and everything for a reason because of people like him lmaoo

[@picapica8266]

did you meant "wOke up and decideD" ?

[@SuperRandoms.]

Resinless behaviour💀

[@alexprus7953]

With the way you've worded this, it sounds like an order 😂

[@sheslittlerookie.]

Even he know how it sucks to spend resins for months struggling to get a good status or a whole collection... rather that daily we're screwed as a fuck

[@chewtoy4460]

Dude I swear you're a natural at this Everything is so easily digestible

[@BooskeyRt]

​@@gamingtemplar9893probably because the video is literally about resin efficiency in artifact farming. He gave a lot of info on why that is and showed the math on a lot of it to make it easier to understand, idk if you actually watched the video. Your "advice" is just a guideline for how to make your primogems efficient in terms of strength, which everyone gets told already and is useless at this point. That has nothing to directly do with resin, like what he was talking about. Also what you said about strongboxxing is bullsht lol, it's much more efficient to use on DPS oriented artifacts than on support oriented artifacts, as substats are much better on strongbox artifacts than domain ones, and those substats are more important on DPS artifacts

[@BooskeyRt]

​@@gamingtemplar9893I meant *useless to say*. the advice isn't shit it's just already repeated so much that everyone knows that it's "better" to pull for archons and super strong units

[@trashbuilds8351]

@@BooskeyRt I think another thing people fail to realize is that for new players, the only teams you can build are based off of the banners available when you started so a lot of these 5*'s could take a year to collect - so if you want to beat spiral with what you have available, then you will be building characters that might not be so primo efficient. Plus, there are things like playing on controller or mobile (internet speed) that make the "best" 5*s not necessarily feel as great to one player as they do for another and it can take time to try out characters until you find ones you like. I loved the info in this video because knowing which characters have the best artifact farming efficiency in the first few weeks gives me more confidence to farm for characters I've been putting off because I assume it will be as time consuming as the ones that have taken months. Veterans might know this already but seeing the math and charts is really helpful I started a new account to try characters I don't have the primos for on my main and I started using strongbox straight away and got some great artifacts that saved resin for building Xiangling & Raiden so strongbox can be vital for new players - even when I only had 6 artifacts to feed lol I still got a coupe better ones than I had. I wish I did this on my 1year old main account sooner!

[@sawgames8623]

​@@gamingtemplar9893you missed the point

[@user-rm3itr40rnd]

@@gamingtemplar9893 Just look at that meta slave. Why should I ignore my favourite DPS character whose playstyle I like? Did you know you can beat abyss with any well built team? And abyss is just smallest part of this game. Some characters who are strong in arena battles, are not comfortable to play in openworld. So play the characters you enjoy would be the best advice for Genshin.

[@Hakusho21]

08:29 I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of xiangling. I try to play diluc. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play yoimiya. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Hu tao. My xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Klee. Her best team has xiangling. I want to play raiden, childe. They both want xiangling. She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull engulfing lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with homa." I can't pull for homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.

[@vitor900000]

I suggest you try couple therapy.

[@willrmmerhunter]

​@@vitor900000Probably a bot. Saw thT comment copy pasted multiple times for months.

[@el7284]

​@@willrmmerhunter it's a copypasta

[@willrmmerhunter]

@@el7284 Aka, probably a bot.

[@Hakusho21]

@@willrmmerhunter Indeed, it might be a bot. You should report it. (For legal reason that was a joke, pls don't report me 😭)

[@SomeoneSayOri]

This is definitely one of the most well-researched and informative videos in the theorycrafting sphere. Great job!

[@Spark_Square]

I was feeling meaningless and lost interest in my favorite subjects like mathematics and physics not knowing what the use of my interests were ( being burnt out by a toxic family and a pathetic education system) This video single-handedly sparked my interest back in mathematics, coding, problem-solving and of course Genshin It made me realize just how much I love numbers and a rational mindset that comes up beautiful solutions You running the code and putting the numbers in a graph was incredible and gave me a breath of fresh air , all I was thinking about was which week gave the most amount of damage, derivatives, functions and all stuff This was an incredible watch and probably gave me the inspiration to get started again to do what I love

[@knmrt2760]

Wake up honey, new Jyo video just dropped !

[@MinaAfton-t2f]

IM AWAKAE XD

[@exile53]

I can't believe you wrote js program just to show us the proper results or how actually not only luck but system plays big factor as well, you saved a lot of time not only on resources but for overall game! It was really efficient guide, appreciate your efforts man.

[@Makkushimu]

A thousand times to be able to start counting consistency... If that alone doesn't tell you how absolutely broken and ridiculous the RNG is for artifacts and farming them, I don't know what is.

[@insentia8424]

A thousand is the absolute minimum of repeats one needs to do to be able to draw any reasonable conclusion once RNG is involved. That's just how analysis of random events works, you need huge data sets, otherwise your conclusions are worth shit. What would let you make conclusions about how absolutely broken the RNG involved is, is a comparison of the minimum stat gain in that dataset, the maximum, as well as how much the simulations tended to deviate from the mean. But not the amount of simulations done... The amount of simulations only lets you draw conclusions about how accurate his conclusion is.

[@jblancard]

are you dumb? 😭

[@dorkcreates2332]

Writing a whole program and creating a video just for my understanding? Hard work is seen and appreciated. Subbed!

[@Avalions]

This video was bonkers. You sir got my deserved sub for the immense effort put in this video... Since being a day 1 player I mostly knew all of these tips shown on the video, but it is nice to finally put it all on numbers and finally see it. Man I really wished I could've seen a video like this back when I started playing genshin, the amount of information packed in this video is straight up crazy. This is a goldmine of min-maxing information for new players. Well done man, truly well done!!

[@behindthesmile1276]

Thanks for this. I'm the type a person that needs some kind of quota/indicator to know when/where is a good stopping point. Being able to see when to stop farming was nice.

[@hazelmaple]

The fact that artifacts greatly effect how strong your characters are I find it shocking that there is absolutely 0 guarantees you will ever get something to improve your character. We have no say on set, on piece, on main stat, or on substats. We only have a say on which ones we decide to level. I wish outside of strongboxing we had a say on something since it affects your characters strength greatly.

[@plvto1]

this. it makes me not want to pull for new characters knowing that I'll need to grind a new set for them or keep having to swap old sets with them and another character back and forth.

[@Daivd1111]

Hoyo should link this video at their official website!

[@PerfectChaos7]

I love videos like these, where it greatly helps out newer players by telling them optimal uses of stuff so that they can avoid making newbie mistakes (and uses solid math to back up the claims so that it's difficult for even the skeptics to not believe it), but also offers useful statistics for veteran players such as myself. I often see many new players say that they do certain things (that are really un-optimal, such as using their 5* artifacts as fodder while converting their 1-3* artifacts into mora [NOT a hypothetical example]), and when I tell them how inefficient that is, they just choose to not take my advice and just do what they believe. Videos like these offer more data/proof for such people to actually perhaps change their mind.

[@el7284]

A friend of mine foddered his fav weapon to level Aquila for Bennett. People don't get how bad mistakes can get because of how casual the game is.

[@KratosAurionPlays]

This is usually why artifacts are one of the last things I focus on. The first part is easy it's the optimizations that take forever lol

[@farhanasif8295]

Commenting for better reach and yt algo. It's easy to see how much passion you have for TC, keep making good content! CHEERS mate!

[@Eanki_]

"You will slowly accumulate an abundance of artifact experience" Dude I have literally nothing to feed into new artifacts. Playing since 2020 and the only way I can easily +20 an artifact is if I feed it one of my +20 double crit artifacts that rolled twice into some useless stat and pray the new artifact is at least as good or better than the one I sacrificed.

[@SS-ri9ib]

I think the only way to fix your issue is to continue farming artifacts, but never use any low level artifacts, you should do this for about a week straight and you should be golden for quite awhile.

[@mendics]

I like everything he mentioned on the video except that. While it is effecient to only use 5*s for strongbox, avoiding foddering them for exp, you do get burnt out if you do the artifact route for exp as your main source of exp. I did it a couple times before and its a fast track to quitting, only do it when you feel you want to do it, and even if you do it, you'll have a lot more artifacts that you want to level than you have the exp to gacha them all. Bad advice imo.

[@callmeashy]

yeah I've never had an abundance of artifact xp I'm pretty sure only people who spend all of there resin on domains and play for hours every single day do

[@johanarm1201]

He is the friend that explain concepts better than teachers

[@highquality5140]

this is incredibly impressive. it really puts into perspective where your resin is actually going

[@rodrigoaraujoyoh]

This video is so, SO good. Oh my god. Knowing the numbers on how effective it is past certain point is somehow freeing.

[@yoishiu]

this kind of stuff, theorycrafting, comp building and enjoying this game despite the (glaring) flaws it has together with its community. this is what i love about this game! thank you for such a high quality video. it was amazingly well written and researched!

[@waete_et432]

probs the best artifact farming guide to ever be released

[@Bleu79]

This is one of the best genshin guide i've seen. Especially so with numbers to back it up, thank you

[@Pheonee]

This video slaps. Accurate, helpful information presented in a clear, understandable way. I'm also a longtime player who knew all of this implicitly, but seeing it laid out with numbers and articulated so clearly was still interesting to watch, and beneficial to solidifying my understanding.

[@Ichi.Capeta]

have been a while I click on the sub button. This is some dedication right there, people.

[@rino0410]

unironically helped me decide what amount of time to dedicate to art. farming... amazing video dude!

[@whatz1861]

Me as a computer science student trying to take a break from coding and shit and decided to watch some genshin vids and turns out the coding part wouldn’t stop haunting me even during my break time 🫠

[@adsoromerogranados3751]

best video on artifact farming on this platform, congrats :)

[@HumbleZealot]

bro got up and decided to decipher the best way use of resin

[@lelannd]

I hope you do more of this kind of videos😭 maybe a "Explaining all termenology in Genshin" one? Like ICD, Snapshotting, etc.

[@jyolikearock_]

I have a couple others for ICD and Elemental Gauge Theory, which you will hopefully find helpful: ICD: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYm7oKmho693g6ssi=brkMruoLuqf6W1P8 EGT: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYO8d3yAodKLfKMsi=YLZ0dETdQCTSWBqh

[@lelannd]

Ohh thank youu for this!!! Your videos are so well written, it was so easy to understand! 🫡❤

[@Sencifouy]

You are GOATED. I obviously was familiar with those concepts and the overall good ways to build a character. However, this video is very noob friendly and I love it

[@anshnanavati]

What a great and well-researched video! You deserve way more recognition man. Been here since the first ever ruin serpent abyss guide. Keep it up :)

[@hahayayak3620]

Such an underrated video bro damn

[@userneim7673]

Great video! I loved the in-depth explanations along with multiple example progression curves. Also, I'm always down for some CV trashing. The idea that CV is a remotely accurate metric for character strength needs to die. I do wish the video covered domain resin efficiency. Particularly how the X.0 domains, which generally features two useful sets and multiple characters that use each of them, are nearly always a better use of resin than the X.3 and x.6 domains. Emblem, MH, and GT are particularly resin-efficient because you can find characters that want basically every stat combination on them. Additionally, RV difference between a BiS 4pc and 2pc/2pc also factors into domain efficiency. Often times, the most resin-efficient choice for characters like Wanderer is to spend 5-10 weeks in DPC domain like you suggest, then wait until its strongbox is available. However, from the perspective of improving a single character with a signature set, I understand why you omitted domain efficiency from the video.

[@altofficialreact8621]

me waking up and login to youtube and the algorithm pointed me this video while i have my morning coffee, seven months later.. : i need this more...

[@roadkill-bbs2002]

This video is amazing and very engaging nice work sir ❤❤❤

[@tomekpiatek88]

Hands down the most useful Genshin guide ever made.

[@phoenixlau]

Thank you for the EM Kuki graph. You wouldn't believe the amount of dumdums on the internet that claim hyperbloom is harder to farm for due to rarer EM mainstat drop rates. Inherently one should already understand that rolling for substats is the true rate limiting factor rather than mainstat, so it's nice to have a visual representation of that fact to point to.

[@namvutranngoc6945]

this is real but at the same time I have never gotten an on-set 5* EM gob/circ for my Kuki or Thoma or Ei

[@agoodnoodle999]

I love watching way too in depth genshin videos but I must stay, the way you presented the data and shared your findings was excellent. Loved the video!!

[@dimpejogja]

Thanks for your hard work. Your video is still plenty helpful for me so I can manage my artifact farming time better, although I probably will still farm Hunter and GT sets until 4.0

[@raphaeldemuizon]

I just found the must VALUABLE video after over 2 years of Arte farming, thanks a looooooooot!!

[@ajbrawlstars8844]

I never thought strongboxing is actually gd i thought it is waste thnx for explaining very gd video😊

[@kristenturner8967]

This was so incredibly well done and finally helped me get a rough estimate on how long farming will actually take. I've always dreaded and avoiding truly farming artifacts because it feels so random and I figured I could theoretically spend months and not make any true improvements. 10 weeks is still a lot of time, but now I know that there *is* a sort of "stopping point" where it's reasonable for me to move on. Thank you so much for making this and explaining it in such a clear manner.

[@teitonii]

this is an attractive display of some of the important statistics but it really really needs to be said that you should never be farming artifacts for only a single character at a time, which this video for some reason doesn't mention. even if its one of those domains where one set is literally garbage, the rolls a piece of it could have can easily end up being so good that they blow any set out of the water, not to mention that EVERY character has one free artifact slot that doesn't need to be on-set, AND rainbow (no set at all) setups can often be bis. also hot tip, look at exile and instructor 4 star pieces when you kill bosses, those sets are bis on some setups with characters like zhongli and gorou.

[@_black_bird]

This is the first video of yours I've watched and gotten recommended by KZbin, I am incredibly impressed by the quality and presentation of the information, it's also kind of a forced awakening cause it makes me realize some of my characters will only get better now if I get a hyper lucky artifact lmao

[@araarashinigami]

I think this is the best character guide video I’ve seen. I think the only thing missing is showing us exactly when to upgrade a piece versus when to discard it.

[@ethereallight7168]

Wow. You are very professional in making content. Your videos really have a lot of effort, time and research put into it. And I truly appreciate that as a first viewer. Keep it up

[@ohhSaiko]

My answer to the entire video: I'll keep wasting all of my resin on artifacts until my koko is at 50 crit rate

[@magicauau1267]

I didn't know strongboxes have a better chance for 4 substats artifacts, very interesting video thanks

[@dogishappy0]

I love how this video is hard proof of the 80/20 rule. It was 8 months between the release of 4.0 and 4.6, with both patches releasing new artifact sets. 20% of this time is 6.4 weeks of solid farming. Assuming you do all weekly domains (30*3+60*7)=510, you are left with 750 resin each week. Spending 750 resin on exclusively artifacts for 6.4 weeks= 4,800 total resin. 4800 total resin divided by the resin you generate each week, 1260, gets you 3.8 weeks. Notice how (edit: in the first graph) we hit 80% power roughly right before 4 weeks of solid grinding? Boom! 80% artifact power with 20% farming time.

[@MarkSkater]

i am vet player started 2 months after launch n yes this is a helpful guide n visual to confirm what i have been doing thank for sharing

[@iroh2522]

Is that graphic that is shown around 1:17 available anywhere? I'd be curious to have a look at the full image!

[@jyolikearock_]

Ya, here you go: ibb.co/PQTsNjZ The exact numbers are actually a bit dated because I made it a couple years ago using Traveler and some botched Artifacts. But the priority of what to build in what order should still be consistent with the order of what gives you the highest returns per Resin spent.

[@iroh2522]

​@@jyolikearock_ Thanks so much!

[@trendmadegamer8725]

​@@jyolikearock_doesn't work anymore 😢

[@mephisto--]

Damn omg That may be the most useful Genshin guide I've ever watched. Thank you a lot for your work, so many good things to know !

[@wanderinggamer5079]

Nice vid just helping the people like my cousin: TLDW: It takes about 10 weeks of Farming to get about 90% of the way there for most characters. Less picky characters will be about 7.5 weeks and using strongbox helps…obviously. Characters that only care about 1 stat will take about 4 to 5 weeks. Key thing to note. Level up the stuff that’s guaranteed. I.E. Boss Mats, Talent Books and Weapon Mats! Good Luck.

[@Gazeta2nd]

Good to see you back Jyo. I always loved the way you structured your guides and was sad to see you had stopped uploading. I hope all is well on your end! If you decide to come back to frequent uploads know that you'll have viewers like me ready to watch anything you post.

Thanks for this great video, Jyo! It's always good to see an old topic be discussed from a new point of view. I feel the ~10 weeks approach so reliable right now with my Navia 😂 I passed the 4.3 update building her, and then the previous update (4.4) trying to get a better CR circlet, and ended the 6 weeks with NOTHING NEW related to 4.3, lol. But, as I was just trying to improve my build, and I'm a veteran with my favourite chars and weapons at MAX levels and most of the talents at 8~9, I'm good to burn my resin with artifacts for now until the next new char or weapon I'll possibly get. Anyway, it's good to know these results, I'll probably will spend less weeks to improve future characters and more weeks enjoying them.

[@Axterix13]

That's the type of thing that can really hit you in the RNG... when you have existing artifacts that are good, and you're farming for that new set. You routinely get stuck at a point where you need circlet/sands with a specific main stat and a X DMG cup.Either one will do the trick, because you can then off-set the other. But now you're in a situation where you need the right main stat with the right substats and they have to get rolled into. And until that happens, you aren't getting a 1-2% increase per week. You're sitting at 0%, until finally you get the one piece that makes swapping worthwhile.

[@trashbuilds8351]

Navia has been rough for me too, although I've mainly been farming MH/GT - I haven't farmed her domain exclusively. So she's on rainbow to get the best stats but sadly missing the buffs from her full set (she still beats spiral though - probably cuz Furina is carrying her lol). It's good to know when the stopping point is and this video has given me so much more confidence to plan out artifact farming for my backseat teams I'm building (Cyno/Wanderer)

[@jonathanhh3728]

I’ve played Star Rail since release, started ZZZ on release, and now I’ve finally been getting into Genshin. This video is excellent because I believe it’s applicable to all the games. The numbers and stat rolls change slightly but the ideas should be generally the same. Thanks for making it!

[@nic0648]

Id say youre the best Genshin Guide maker. Not only do you mostly focus on Spiral abyss, which is arguably the only challenging content, but you did so with really good explanation on how enemy Ai behaves as well as good positioning which helps all players unlike the other CC who just focuses on teams. Veteran players dont need to be told which team works for a chamber but positioning certainly helps, because, lets face it, when you have too many units already, sometimes your play can be pretty unoptimized. Its the same with this video, while veterans already uses the artifact strongbox and are aware of efficient resin use, there are still minor things you managed to impart us, such as that added chance of 4 substats on strongbox artifact. I dont think ibe heard CC's talk about that. Lastly, your clear and easy to understand explanations free from annoying and unnecessary effects coupled with a calm voice makes following the topic easier. I hope more people see your content especially the newer players.

[@nodrvgs]

yes same! Just subbed because of this video

[@AIizs_]

Lets be honest, we are farming just fot that top 1% on akasha...

[@uncaringbear]

This might be the most useful Genshin video I've seen in a long, long time. I've been playing actively since launch and the key take-aways from this video are spot on and explained very clearly. This is really great stuff!

[@treehouse7861]

interesting how 20 weeks is not enough to get scara into the top 15% on akasha

[@jyolikearock_]

Scariest comment right here 😬

[@belugastyle480]

Really good work here, thank you. It's a known fact that artifact farming is no. 1 source of frustration for people who want to push their characters to the limit, and I think they do realize that extra 30 CV they will get across 5 artifacts is generally speaking isn't worth it if takes whooping half a year to get. But people who play for a long time also have nothing else to do, not everyone is into leveling up every single charcter they own just for the sake of it, so they are still chasing for that 3-5% extra damage cause the only other option at that point would be not farming anything at all, which seems like a waste of a valuable resource. But thing is... At some point I stopped farming artifacts for an entire patch, and it made me feel better about the game. It is very important to be able to say to yourself "it's good enough" about some 27CV feather with some %ATK or EM and just move on, it helps alot in avoiding burnout.

[@maurorodriguez9508]

I'm a day 1 player and even if I had some idea that after a point your probability of getting better artifacts was very slim, I was very ahocked with the 10 week Mark you showed. Really cool video ❤

[@rzkrdn8650]

The thing like Husks domain that have a different bias (less likely to get DEF sands than any other domains for example) is sucks. Hoyo knows what we want, and lower the odds on what we want out of that domain

[@ColinsComments]

This sounds fake

[@Elliarts54]

@ColinsComments It IS fake. Every main and sub-stat relies on rng, which isn’t tied to a domain. Which means, that you can be getting def artifacts in husk domain, but hp in another domain. Which isn’t tied to any domain passives or so, but pure rng luck.

[@rzkrdn8650]

​ @Elliarts54 F**king f**k you guys. i've tried posting of someone proved it 3 TIMES, once with the link and no link for the others but it keeps getting removed by youtube for some reason. It's a thread by u/Mugagator with 6 months worth of data. someone else even had done with larger sample but for the life of me i couldnt find it anymore. just look it up yourself ffs

[@rzkrdn8650]

@@Elliarts54 F**king f**k you guys. i've tried posting of someone proved it 3 TIMES, once with the link and no link for the others but it keeps getting removed by youtube for some reason. It's a thread by u/Mugagator with 6 months worth of data. someone else even had done with larger sample but for the life of me i couldnt find it anymore. just look it up yourself ffs

[@rzkrdn8650]

@@ColinsComments My comments to you about the evidence keeps getting removed. idk what to do

[@Jucez]

This was really helpful as a player just entering artifact farming, amazing quality video!

[@vjaay6748]

bro cooks well, this is such a good and educational video

[@ocher8931]

This is the best artifact guide I’ve seen yet.

[@HenryDelRosario]

I really love this and I hope your channel gets more popular because of it. No wonder when I farm a new relics. That feels so good in the first 1 to 2 weeks. Now it actually makes me feel free conversely, to stop farming after 10 to 20 weeks. I’d rather get a new character and new relic set!

[@gunnercat8045]

this is the type of informational or educational genshin video i wanted, an easy instant sub

[@xanthee_imr]

Amazing content, I neglected this video for a long time since I assumed it covered concepts I were more or less familiar with as a relatively old player, but still the process was so fascinating and you managed to surprise me again. Your videos are an inspiration for this community, thank you for coming back and cooking again

[@SimonCleric]

This video is so calming, it almost makes Genshin character upgrading not look like shit. Almost %)

[@namelessaccount2325]

This is so good, man this is fucking good, this is top tier vedio in every aspect

[@jacobphillips3882]

Thank you for the vid!! I have been using 5* artifacts for xp and didn't realize how beneficial the strongbox would be for progression. This is gonna be so nice since I'm building a few characters right now. I love learning how to min-max my genshin experience :3

[@johns783]

One factor that isn't often discussed is how valuable that last little bit of improvement can be. Meaning a 5% improvement may be the difference between having the dps to one cycle something, thus making it a comfortable clear, vs not quite getting there, fumbling for a while and maybe just barely making your abyss time, or falling short. I was pretty well invested for a while, but man did getting a single 5 star signature weapon really put me over the top. All of a sudden I'm able to 36 star every abyss. So that's the thing with long term investing in arts and such, it may be slow, but the difference can be night ad day to invest just that little bit more to tip the scales in your favor.

[@okrichie9077]

This is really interesting. I disagree about artifact exp though. The amount of artifact exp required to get full level 20 artifacts across all characters of a full roster is immense and I'd love to see some analysis of that. I appreciate not everyone builds every character with a unique artifact set but as someone working on that I can confirm that the amount of exp required makes for a year or more of full resin investment into just artifact exp.

[@talksoloxtl]

As a new player to Genshin, your resin efficiency video is exactly what every player needs to learn to prevent broken accounts. I had an overall dps strategy, but you clearly identified the boundaries when it becomes inefficient farming. Spending around 25% of your time, 5 weeks, to get 80% dps of the max artifact set output is a normal ratio in MMOs. The real gacha mechanics is obtaining the last 20% dps of the max artifact set, which requires 75% of your time farming. That is the real kill joy as a casual player.

[@RandomMusik]

This is the single best explanation iv ever seen. After 3 Years of playing the game.

[@jsk8052]

Love the visualizations! Would you be interested in comparing the resin efficiency of building a character with a 4pc set as opposed to a 2pc/2pc set with good substats? In this video, you claimed that the front-loaded gains came from getting the right main stats and completing the 4pc set effect. But this runs counter to the logic of other theorycrafters, who prioritize good substat quality over completing the set. For example, with Wanderer, you’d be comparing the resin efficiency of completing a 4pc Desert Pavilion set vs a 2pc VV + 2pc Atk% set. If this interests you, I’d love to hear your thoughts on it!

[@RicoAlencar]

This is the best guide that ive seen as a new player. Also the bg music reminds me of jurassic park lmao

[@starfinity]

I appreciate how clear and concise this guide is, almost feels like an academic paper. Very well done 👍

[@taska9187]

I'm not really a new player (3 years mark coming soon I guess) but I really like this video, especially the way how you managed to talk about all this in such comprehensible way. Lately it's hard for me to concentrate on things that are not that interesting (statistics and such) but the way you do it is just something on another level. Maybe it's the editing, maybe it's the natural flow of the script, maybe it is altogether, but I enjoyed this a way more than I though I would, thank you so much! PS:I do have one question, a bit offtopic though. As you stated in the video, as a long time genshin player I don't really care about the way I spend resin in genshin anymore, since I have a lot of working team comps for the abyss and enough decent artifacts with weapons (some weapons are not even lvl 90, because why bother). But recently I got into Honkai Star Rail and as a newbie I can really feel deficiency in resources, to the point where all those promocodes with resources saves the day. And as a newbie, it's really hard to understand what exactly I need to focus on when upgrading my characters. So my question is, is the logic stated in this video more or less applicable to the HSR progression? It would help me a lot, thank you so much/

[@m3mori]

Why did this insanely detailed video pop into my recommended and where has it been all my life!

[@themightyant.]

Would love to see how the curve and variables change vs HSR.

[@TaigaZzz]

This is so fun to watch wtf

[@davidlg571]

This might be one of the best, if not the best, video of Genshin I've ever seen. And I've seen infinite videos.

[@novicehikari]

This is a really nice guide. Even for me who have been playing the game for 2 years. The data gave me a hint of relief in knowing that what I did to build my characters where correct and made me rethink in maybe adjusting a bit in being so overly focused in one domain to get that 40CV Artifacts

[@MervinCarloMarcos]

I have been playing genshin since January of this year only, and this is the first and only video I found giving a strategy for artifact farming with sufficient and newb-friendly explanation. Thank you very much!

[@crunchycres]

Wow... I must say this was quite eye opening for me. I'm an 1.0 AR60 player with almost a full roaster of the entire cast of characters (and quite a big load of weapons too). Building characters, especially artifact farming, is something that I actually always enjoyed doing, hence I have many dedicated builds for my characters. Ofc it's still an exhausting and even frustrating process, but it's the part I'm always the most proud of once I 'finish' building a character. But... I always have this habit of doing the artifact farming first, because I prefer having the worst parts done before getting to the guaranteed stuff. That habit actually made my first ever 5 Star (Diluc) being benched for more than 3 years, cuz I rarely got anything usable from CWoF domain (btw, recently managed to actually build him finally). After hearing all this, I might actually reconsider my order of character enhancement😅.

[@KendilKanan]

Amazing, I really wish I had a guide like this when I was a new player. Not that still now it has not given me worthwhile new insights. But If one new player asks me for one video to see, this is exactly the one I will refer them to. Great job! Thanks.

[@ethanmiller631]

this game gets real serious

[@yptrumpet]

Terrific guide. I'm AR60 and resin isn't very important any more, but it's extremely satisfying to find the numerical truth behind these systems. Especially behind the Strongbox!

[@yptrumpet]

Would you be OK with me sharing your video and writing up the core concepts in HoYoLab? With full accreditation, of course, and the right to remove if you change your mind.

[@jyolikearock_]

Absolutely, please go ahead. Would appreciate if you could also link my HoYoLab username, which is jyolikearock@

[@Chillin_94]

This is awesome! Thank you for bringing us this information in a condensed and understandable way.