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[@drewmungus5841]

When they say they don't do pronouns, default to they/them and watch them suddenly care about it

[@loreliz4]

I was gone say I bet if Jovan asked “so you’re non binary” (I know non binary uses they/them but these callers don’t know that) the caller would’ve picked a pronoun real quick 🤣

[@derangedplague]

Or just call them she/her and also watch them lose their minds.

[@Vandrid]

"You need respect people to stop calling cis women cis." in the same breath, "I refuse to call transwomen women." This caller can't even see the hypocrisy.

[@emanekaf1543]

He's the type of dude who thinks a wife can't be raped by her husband.

[@christophergibson4834]

J-"Blackness isnt an innate sense of self its something others put upon me." Caller-"No, i don't know, i can see you. You look black." 😂

[@sukobars]

Bout took me out dog 😂

[@Anglomachian]

The lengths people will go to, just to make perfect strangers feel miserable for no good reason. It costs you literally nothing to call people by their preferred identifiers.

[@Starfoxx28]

They're so hateful, and and even more disturbing when they have children

[@ibringit987]

Dude saying he'll fight people for using the word Cis is insane. He needs to be instituted.

[@KamenRiderFinn]

Dude literally said he’d commit hate crimes and thought he was in the right

[@ibringit987]

@KamenRiderFinn it's wild how they're ALL like this too. Man is threatening to be violent because language and communication hurts his brain 😭

[@cheemster2619]

"Leftists are so sensitive to mere words"

[@stevonwhite8933]

⁠@@ibringit987 The mind of a transphobe/homophobe/racist

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@ibringit987 The mind of a transphobe

[@Rei_Oni_]

bro is purposely misunderstanding cis and trans because he's stuck in his feelings

[@drossvids]

Is bro whiteknighting for transphobia ? Dude just seems like a weirdo

[@cheemster2619]

- "You're being disingenuous" - "No I'm not" - "Anyway, slurs aren't defined by th--" - "Did you just assume my gender" bruh

[@Witchoftheriver]

"did you just assume my gender" when you literally asked his pronouns at the beginning and he refused to tell you and insisted you just assume.

[@kianaolive]

“I don’t do that pronoun stuff.” I’m already tired 😭

[@LaurenElizabethYT]

“Crunk don’t do pronoun. Pronoun make Crunk feel sad and angry.”

[@DastardlyFluffy]

@LaurenElizebethYT "Crunk doesn't like change. Government scares Crunk, makes Crunk's brain hurt. Crunk listens to other Crunks for advice"

[@louzerreviews]

Then at the end "did u just assume my gender?" What a fuckin clown

[@thedyingrose_]

i will never understand people disliking pronouns when they have pronouns themselves and use it every single day.

[@aitorgonzalez4657]

Just like using “cis”, using pronouns is associated with being trans, and they hate that.

[@DastardlyFluffy]

Ikr, I mean in that sentence alone you used pronouns 4 times 😅 without pronouns verbal language would collapse

[@TBPhoenix-xg2is]

​@@DastardlyFluffy Tbf there are languages that do not have pronouns.

[@loreliz4]

Because of the propaganda surrounding it, it’s similar to the word “woke” being bastardized, pronouns have BEEN here, we learned this shit as kids, by 3rd grade at the minimum you should’ve been consciously taught wtf pronouns are, the problem is most folks do not continue education or reaffirming that education and social media don’t make it any better

[@loreliz4]

⁠@@TBPhoenix-xg2iswhat languages are those?

[@atomicrevolution1]

Not Jovan pulling up that "I" is a pronoun out the gate

[@meenty9056]

Respect for staying calm in front of such stupidity. I could never.

[@dantealighieri8403]

15:56 "The trans people cannot buy tampons because what if I need to buy some for Wife but there are none because the trans people bought them all" My friend, there are so little trans people out there that are buying enough tampons to cause a problem. You should complain to the stores for not stocking enough. What a non-issue (and weird justification to say they're 'changing people's lifestyle') Edit: oops, Jovan went over this later on

[@TheRegularHedgehog575]

Also most trans men need tampons

[@emanekaf1543]

Also normalize cis men carrying tampons in case their trans, cis, or enby friends need em.

[@aitorgonzalez4657]

Those that deny the science, any science, are showing that they either 1) haven’t actually read the science, or 2) don’t understand it.

[@maironelfstone896]

Or, even worse, they're willing to pick and choose the science they accept to fit their beliefs.

[@tugomezfav9131]

Jovan, I just have to say. Your videos have been so helpful in structuring so many thoughts I had, the way you back up and consistently debate with people really make me want to keep researching in so many topics. Thank you so much, please keep putting out highlights. Much love from Mexico 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

[@adaj472]

These conversations are so exhausting. The premise is basically, “Uh, I don’t get it… so you must be incorrect”. Edit: 22:50 “So you would disrespect a woman by calling her cis - “ This metaphorical CIS woman’s aversion to the word “cis” is inherently disrespectful to trans women. So, I, as a cis woman, do not gaf if she feels disrespected. She can get over it.

[@russellh9894]

16:00 The caller brings up supply shortages during a once in a lifetime. But he doesn't have any data to show trans people were the ones buying tampons in such great supplies that there weren't enough for cis women. Jovan's response is great here.

[@jasonevans7260]

Getting that mad "on behalf of women" about the term "cis" is problematic as hell. The dude has some issues he needs to be resolved with some therapy.

[@asdfjkl5713]

This entire confusion is based on this guy believing words are prescriptive and not descriptive. They believe everything is prescribed from god or whatever, so they don’t get it.

[@andrewwdavvid]

"I believe I know more people than you" is a wild brag

[@chexaschainska]

Why do they always compare gender to race as a gotcha , its both really stupid and frustrating.

[@combatwomb1]

You should've asked him how he feels about the term heterosexual, because somehow these types never seem to have the same problem with that as they do with cisgender

[@theakkiqueen4655]

Yeah if they don't like cisgender we could go with homogender instead.

[@TimeLady018]

I will happily refer to myself as a cis woman. I really don't get people who are so against it. It's a scientific term.

[@russellh9894]

22:36 In a non streaming setting, this is why it's so important to avoid certain words when talking to a conservative. Their propaganda usually puts a ton of baggage on certain words and actions. To the point where they say, "I don't do pronouns". It's best to define everything and avoid certain words. Otherwise, their NPC dialogue tree activates and it'll be difficult to get the convo back on track.

[@kermitthorson9719]

they really cant just give their cis pronouns, its literally one of the easiest requests to fill

[@Polcat94]

It's bc they hear pronouns and automatically think trans instead of you know regular words we use every day. They also don't expand their elementary school education

[@KamenRiderFinn]

On the water thing. My friend lived in Flint Michigan where there was an actual water shortage. People bought and gave out water and were seen as heroes. The example he used literally proves him wrong.

[@Lisa_T.]

The word cisgender is no different than the word heterosexual. Neither one is a slur, and we need both words because without them people will default to "normal" which would be a slur. JFC I can't believe were still having the same conversations that were going on in the 2000s.

[@DevonRucker]

I wanna blame no child left behind for this conversation. At this point we have a generation of low educated people who already raised another low educated group of people and those people are raising another generation of low educated people.

[@thecarrotclarinet]

dude was not listening to a single word you said the whole debate

[@thecarrotclarinet]

also he took every single opportunity to misgender hypothetical trans people

[@SomeDudeOtaku]

I absolutely love that you ask people their pronouns now, it reveals so much about the callers

[@dantealighieri8403]

What is it with callers who always ask/demand for polls? You do a poll, they IMMEDIATELY (correctly) point out that it'll be biased in your favor... yet they still say do a poll but with THEIR social circles which will confirm their point.

[@tifflynn]

I wonder if the people who are offended by being called cisgender are also offended by being called homo sapien 🤔

[@unicornjibs2623]

25:41 the signature laugh of someone who's loosing

[@butterspike680]

You cannot play chess with a pidgeon, they don't understand the rules, they will shit on the board, and after all that, they will jump and celebrate as if they've won

[@caiotug801]

You are the first English speaker I have seen who has studied before speaking anything. W channel, Finally a person from the global north who studies

[@WendyDaCanuck]

I love it when they inevitably flounce at the end.

[@russellh9894]

26:22 He already concluded that the majority of women view the term "cis" as disrespectful before having any data to back it up.

[@Hey_im_Marcy]

Ngl that's so annoying tbh the women who say it's offensive I just start calling them trans women because it doesn't seem to get through their thick little skulls that I'm just not calling them trans

[@evan-bunch-of-numbers]

He got that talking point from Musk's crusty ass

[@loreliz4]

I would’ve shut down his whole tampon/pads argument by asking why do we charge people money for pads/tampons? Women can’t help having a period (women who don’t have any health issues etc) so if we really cared about cis gendered women and their periods… why are we charging money for them?

[@ashduhhhhley4497]

Like this comment if you are a proud cis woman and don't care about the ADJECTIVE cis being used to describe what KIND of woman you are!

[@Altinastreats]

At this point just call me "cis" and drop the woman because this is exhausting

[@APPR3NTIC3]

My guy, women can see a doctor over bladder infections, which if it's a specialist is a... wait for it... a urologist. $10 says this guys whole reality is based on the fact that no woman has ever gone into detail about what went on during their doctor visit.

[@ItzJuanG]

Not done with the video but I'm guessing that since he couldn't win with logic that he's gonna try to "win" with morality

[@KamenRiderFinn]

Yep

[@pradaninja]

Cis Woman here.... IDK WTH he's chirping about.

[@LikeaSsur]

Got him from the jump, Jovan. I love it.

[@BetterThanEmber]

Now let's do a poll of how many people don't like "tall/short" 😂

[@ExpiredWindex01]

I love how you added pronouns to your opening questions, it just pisses consevatives off more lmao

[@Christionem]

Unfortunately, this guy is pretty intelligent for new Orleans

[@Soul_Watcher]

Any one being offended by the term cis absolutely has science denial. These terms have been around a very long time. Trans people didn’t make that term up. They need to get a grip.

[@nlsnmrgn_theblukid]

Great title

[@brave_skykorn]

I love when people think trans people are super controlling on getting called their prefered gender. My trans friend didnt care whether i call her by her deadname initially. Granted i took her new name after a while. some trans people are chill and use their new names as suggestions.

[@unicornjibs2623]

28:05 ah the poll i asked for is rigged tactic 😂

[@luna.a.a]

I could be wrong, but the r-slur started as a medical term before it became stigmatized and used as an insult, eventually leading it to be considered a slur. Right? I think it’s annoying and dumb for people to try to claim that “cisgender” is a slur, but it also makes me think about how the r-word became a slur overtime (unless I’m mistaken)

[@tifflynn]

Yes, but no one is using the term cisgender to institutionalise, segregate and discriminate against a vulnerable population

[@eelsonwheels8187]

I've been called cis before by people on the left as an insult, it's just their version of the r-word for people that are normal or "cis" that don't fit their agenda or beliefs

[@Amsted12]

​@@eelsonwheels8187Considering cis people on the left tend to call themselves cis, I don't really understand why they would use the term to describe themselves as an insult.

[@evan-bunch-of-numbers]

​@@Amsted12because the user you replied to is lying, and their choice of words makes that apparent

[@d.bow2442]

Dude said I'm going to keep it 💯 with you while processing at 50% lol also don't tell this man he is a homosapien 😂

[@504hotboi5]

I just want to say that this man does not represent all men from New Orleans.. SMFH.. So disappointing..

[@hw6271]

11:21 so close, but the cognitive dissonance is unreal😂

[@leelindsay5618]

Yay, this caller just experienced being yt "I'm not racist" ...lol...when you don't understand what you are saying fully so you try virtue signaling instead of stopping the racist behavior.

[@MRK1099]

Lazy 4ss

[@theakkiqueen4655]

W or L or whatever

[@aitorgonzalez4657]

Those that deny the science, any science, are showing that they either 1) haven’t actually read the science, or 2) don’t understand it.