How much water hoya really need?

Welcome to the first official episode of Miro's Hoya summer camp - how much water hoya reallu needs? It is one of my favorite topics, only second to potting mixes. We all know I am addicted to perlite. I hope this will serve well as an introduction to watering, and encourage you to find out what your plants need in your environment vs simply relying on the advice on Internet ❤️
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[@betsybegonia]

Poor Hoyas staring desperately at that watering can. 😂

[@BasiePlants]

Some got water! Not many. 😂

[@BasiePlants]

Watering - my favorite topic and yet somehow I rarely do it on time...

[@cynthiataylor3226]

Can you please provide a link to the self watering pots you use?

[@MelissaWalker82]

this series is such a great idea and already so much fun!

[@BasiePlants]

Imagine when I get to potting mixes :D 3 hours of who knows where this goes

[@mwoods4608]

anytime i think im an "advanced hoya grower" i kill something. so im taking the summer school courses 😂😂🎉🎉❤❤

[@BasiePlants]

Hahaha :D Oh, that doesn't make you a pro! :D The more you kill, the better you are 😂 TRUST ME

[@grannyplants1764]

@@BasiePlantsPlants can certainly keep one humble…🌿

[@flatcreek4665]

Glad you are going to Hoya’s For Beginners…I just got my 2nd Hoya. Thank you!

[@BasiePlants]

I hope then this series will help and by the time I am done, you will have acquired 8 more :D

[@hoedown175]

I think it’s hilarious that you’re starting with watering when most of your videos are usually about how you haven’t watered your hoyas in awhile. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 loving the boot camp videos!

[@BasiePlants]

I know. The irony is palpable. 😂

[@amandacountryman8024]

20 seconds into the video and I'm already laughing and wishing Miro was my best friend!!!!

[@marialuizacunhalima]

Such a good series, Miro! I two dislike the" taco test". I am having some Hoyas flowering for me for the first time and I do thank your guidance! Can't wait to watch the whole summer camp.

[@Planty-Mandy]

When I got my first Hoyas I was somehow under the impression that I needed to water them like succulents. Luckily I learned they needed more water before it was too late and they did much better when I started watering them more!

[@christinak9587]

Same for me! It's amazing what water can do for our Hoyas LOL!!

[@diannh2894]

I've learned it's never a one sized fits all. Clay and sphagnum tend to dry out faster as opposed to ceramic and bark or leca or soil. Between what medium you use and what kind of pot - plus environment and everything else - sometimes ya gotta learn by experimenting and listening to your plant! 😊

[@nekia2much]

Every single video that you have posted and I have watched is so informative. I was having the wrinkled leaves after water issue. Now I know why and what to do.

[@leahandress9531]

Loving this beginners’ series! I’ve been developing my green thumb for a six months or so with gardening & unfussy houseplants in an attempt to grieve/ cope with difficult life circumstances by reconnecting with nature. I’ve recently fallen deep down the hoya rabbit hole. 🌱😍 And for the first time I have to cut myself off from buying plants. Lol. Starting off with Krimson queen & princess, compacta, coronaria, linearis, lacunosa, bella, and nummularioides… The depth of info on this channel is wonderful, and cannot get enough of the charming self-deprecating humor! Miro, thank you for being so welcoming to beginners! ❤ Regarding self-watering pots, it seems there are many types. Do you have thoughts on how to evaluate which type(s) might work best for particular Hoyas and/or how to DIY our own self-watering pot set-ups?

[@BasiePlants]

I have tried to DIY them before and while it is not difficult, what was the biggest challenge for me is finding proper inner pots and cover pots that would have a deep enough reservoir. Depending where you live, some hydroponic stores may offer inner pots for whatever outer pot you want :) I prefer to buy them now, as I found a brand that is quite affordable, so that is really my only criteria :D

[@deenahickey75]

Great first boot camp first video Miro🎉

[@kathrynlundgren7618]

This title made me laugh because I know you’re being factious. I’m trying self-watering too. I enjoy your show!

[@BasiePlants]

Me? I love watering. I do it all the time. ON TIME too xD

[@kable321]

"factious"?

[@kathrynlundgren7618]

@@kable321 thank you

[@rebeccaparis6470]

These videos are very helpful! Thanks so much! New to hoya here! 💚💚💚

[@robinhavens695]

YAY!!! This summer camp is fun and I’m sooo excited for more!!!🎉💚🎉

[@butterbeanpastry]

I love this camp, just in time for summer!! Also, just added a few more to my list…..😬💚💸

[@candib24.9]

You r hilarious!😂😂 Loved the vid💚 and i truly appreciate your watering insight as a beginner. Now i know what to do with my variegated compacta 🙌💯

[@aub_k2819]

You're the best! 😍

[@karenb136]

This is a great series Miro. Knowing when to water is one of the biggest issues when you are a beginner. Thanks for the video. 🌱💚🌱

[@BasiePlants]

I agree :) I underwatered my hoyas a lot as a beginner! I mean, even now, but this is a different thing! :D

[@karenb136]

@@BasiePlants 🤣

[@wandashaw3551]

Go Camp Miro!! ❤ this video and cannot wait for the next one 😍

[@bubbyanne2]

This is the only camping I will ever do! Thanks for the info and leaving out the mosquitos. 😂 I’ve been contemplating pon and you just made me decide, especially after finding a few of my plants suffering yesterday. I chronically under water too and I may have to restart a couple.

[@BasiePlants]

Oh yes, definitely no to camping unless it is hypothetical... like this :D Well, I grow a lot in pon, but I don't think it is the best mix :) I think they all have pros and cons. But it has helped many people a lot, if they can't get the watering right in organic mixes :)

[@rareplaid]

I hear you on the camping thing! Hoya Camp with Miro is the only camping for me 😂🪴

[@sammijo6331]

This is the best channel ever. Thank you!

[@amyanderson8981]

Very helpful! Thank you!

[@dakinikiss9413]

😍🤩😘❤‍🔥Outstanding!

[@michaelkerley452]

OMG… I am so here for catching Miro using AOL inches to gage his Hoya Compacta size.😂 Anyway ignore me and back to the Hoyas.

[@BasiePlants]

😂 All I can say is, AOL is before my time :D

[@michaelkerley452]

@@BasiePlants Smooth save😉

[@samtata5632]

For sure your compacta is .5 meter

[@1ebonystar]

Love, Love, Love. Thank you for this series. New Jersey, USA💕💕😍

[@serenitygardenaviary]

New on the Hoya Bus 🚌 this is great information! Thanks for sharing!

[@northernplantuckyplantcinc2630]

I very much appreciate your summer camp! LOL! I'm still learning from my basic B Hoyas that survived my learning curve😂

[@yeahivekilledthat719]

Love the short video format. I can retain the info much better. Thanks for sharing your tips.

[@susanjohnson5824]

Thank you Miro - just yesterday I watched one of your previous videos on Hoyas that need more water - it was very helpful as was this video.

[@BasiePlants]

I am glad to hear that! :) Maybe in the future I can do an update video on that one, with a more comprehensive list.

[@christinak9587]

Already loving your summer camps! Bought a book to take notes. I was a chronic overwaterer and then became an underwaterer, so now I'm trying to reach somewhere in the middle LOL

[@BasiePlants]

Hahaha :D A book might be too much! :D

[@i.foliage]

Love the summer camp for beginners! Fabulous idea. Long time follower, first time commenter. I’ve been collecting Hoya for about 5 years now. Personally I feel the material of the pot dictates the frequency of watering too. Most of mine are in terracotta as I am terrified of overwatering and they dry out so much faster than plastic or glazed ceramic. Definitely a challenge during summer or those that are on heat mats in winter. I am in NZ so in the midst off winter atm with zero degree nights and no central heating.

[@BasiePlants]

Yes, material of the pot dictates the amount of watering too. There will an episode just about the pots :D It is kind of a topic that has to come in parts I feel. One doesn't go without the other. :) That is how the camp is structured. But shhhh tell no one! :D

[@tigrezz0852]

@minecraft_vibes4309 I know the feeling! Here in Melbourne as a Hoya beginner I’m finding myself babying my new Princess and Queen.. no heat mats (yet) but seem to be okay with the indoor heating at the moment 😅 watering soon as I notice them dried up usual 2 inches from the top 🤞🏼

[@tigrezz0852]

@@BasiePlantsthanks for this series beautiful! 😘

[@i.foliage]

⁠@@BasiePlantsYour secret is safe with me 🤫🤐

[@i.foliage]

@@tigrezz0852I hope it stays that way for you because heat mats is another whole level of pain in the behind.

[@emylucille240]

When I first started a lot of people would say to wait until the leaves are wrinkled/foldable and that's really not great for a lot of hoyas! I recommend clear pots and checking every few days/week to see if there's still moisture and watering after. A lot of my hoyas would be a ton better if I had watered more often when I first started.

[@annettearrington957]

I am not really a beginner, but still have SO MUCH to learn! Thank you for this series! Confession: I am an underwaterer 😮

[@BasiePlants]

We all have a lot to learn always :D Confession: I am an underwaterer too. Tell no one.

[@amberschmidt278]

Love the clear plastic pots for watering. Was soooo easy to check roots, and gauge the lightness of the Hoya. Made the beautiful mistake of falling for these hand thrown terracotta pots for some of the larger plants and now it’s a nightmare to figure them out. Super light airy mix and porous heavy pots. 😫😂love the new series.. will be a fun summer!

[@BasiePlants]

Oh I am sorry to hear that! I avoid terra cotta pots, they don't work for me. I hope you find a solution!

[@leannhillier-jv8wf]

Love this! Can’t wait for next week. I just started transplanting/transferring? Idk mine to pon I hope I’m doing right thing

[@BasiePlants]

Pon works well for many growers and many hoyas! :) I don't think it's the perfect mix, but I have a bone to pick with every mix I have tried so far 😅

[@marsf4883]

Very helpful, especially since most my hoyas are still small cuttings 😊

[@BasiePlants]

Oh how exciting though!

[@sandywall3632]

So many varieties of Hoya. How can one treat them all the same. So many variables too. Just by observation over time one figures it out. Love those clear pots where you can see root problems. Have watched all your videos and think you are the best

[@hristinakrsteska7924]

Agree with everything you said Miro! I keep my hoyas outside in shade throughout the summer, with some early morning sun and I usually water them every 2/3 days, if the days are very hot, but if it's cloudy and rainy I prolong the watering. They really enjoy the outside! Thanks for the series and can't wait for the next one! 💚

[@deborahmcsweeney3349]

Loved this! Have you ever used a moisture meter? I usually use my finger to check or by lifting the pot to see how heavy it feels. Keep thinking I might be safer with a moisture meter. Lol thanks for this!!!

[@BasiePlants]

No, never :) Moisture meters tend to not work well in airy mixes that have a lot of bark in them. I think your safest bet is to check with your finger or by lifting the pot :)

[@wombatsanctuary]

I am getting a lot out of this series already! As a newbie I don't know the types you listed and I would love more images added to the video! Also im a visual learner (hella adhd) and rewinded like 4 times so that my brain could process things 😂 next time I'm taking notes lol

[@BasiePlants]

most of the plants I mentioned are in the b roll :) except for medinillifolia and undulata :)

[@pile.of.plants]

thanks for this video!! can you go over how to water in self watering pots, please?

[@BasiePlants]

No problem! :) Well, for my pots, you just lift the inner pot and fill the reservoir :)

[@Yoliplanting]

Thank you this was so helpful. I’ve inherited two which I don’t know what to do with but we’re gifted to me. Both very large leaves one called an elephant hoya so hopefully I can keep them alive.

[@BasiePlants]

Oh how interesting! Do you think one is the 'Elephant' cultivar?

[@Yoliplanting]

@@BasiePlants it just says on the tag elephant and it is a rather large leaf. I am trying to watch as many of your videos to help this Hoya

[@mwoods4608]

thats the best thing about hoyas is their ability to re root!!

[@BasiePlants]

Yes! :D And in many cases, just the easiest thing to do.

[@curlsbynat9763]

I have the royal Hawaiian, microdwarf, and Hoya Mathilde bottom watering works for me. I am waiting for Hoya Heuschkeliana and the Hoya Lacunosa Perangin Durian to arrive.

[@BasiePlants]

Bottom watering works great for many species! :)

[@mayam1193]

I wanted to see you going around watering them 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@debs_boho_jungle]

❤

[@stephaniefullenwider1132]

I’ve killed 3 Hoyas this week Miro. It’s Hoya graveyard. I only have a hoya macrophylla variegata left.

[@BasiePlants]

Oh no! What happened?! Was it root rot? and were they newly acquired hoyas?

[@stephaniefullenwider1132]

@@BasiePlants I think it was root rot. I just can’t seem to find the happy spot with soil and watering. This was helpful! I just can’t wait for the growing medium video. They were all newly acquired Hoyas. I would say I’m about intermediate with aroids, philos mostly. Haven’t lost one of them in years. But these Hoyas are giving me a run for my money.

[@ehrrinkeenan]

Hi Miro! I'm not a beginner, but also not an expert! I LOVE your videos! You are personally responsible for at least half my wishlist 😊 I'm self-watering pot curious, but firmly a soil-based gal (except with cuttings--I usually use water, stratum, or moss for that). Do you use self-watering pots with any organic medium? I'm also a chronic underwaterer [i think i got freaked out early about DON'T OVERWATER and went too far in the other direction 😅]. I dabbled in pon and leca, but I just don't want to mess with the chemicals/nutrients/whatever and such (does. not. spark. joy.). I'm afraid of just leaving them in self-watering with soil. I imagine a tragic mud situation in the bottom of the pot and it's scared me off up to now. But you're really selling the SWP situation. Also, do you Ph balance your water? (I don't because there are just so many, and, well, my adhd is chaos-style & it sounds like that takes the kind of foresight I was tragically born lacking!)

[@BasiePlants]

Yes, I use self-watering pots with coco peat and perlite (about 50-50 mix) with great results :) I would not put undulata in this however. I am also now trying a mix with 1/4 coco peat, 1/4 perlite, 1/4 bark, 1/4 coco chips :) Well, tap water is usually around 8 and if you have a barky mix, you may not need to pH down as the bark will bring the pH down. However, the regular rain water they get in nature is below 7 :) So, yes, I pH down in all cases, but I don't really measure it that rigidly, I basically know how many drops to add now :)

[@ehrrinkeenan]

@@BasiePlants Thank you so much!! 💚

[@j.c7941]

Hi Miro 💫 Thank you so much for this video!!!! Out of all my Hoya my Compacta and Compacta Variegated keep turning this weird brown/ashy dead color and no matter what I do will not recover!!! Any help or advice would be appreciated. They are in an orchid mix which does fine for all my other Hoya and they all get watered once a week. I really love the Compacta and want to grow a successful one but at this point I’m over those. Please help!

[@BasiePlants]

Have you checked the roots? What parts of the plant turn brown? Are the leaves firm to the touch? It could be edemea too or a pest issue. It is hard to know just based on the description without photos :)

[@kimmills7707]

💚🌱💚🌱💚

[@juniperjupiter444]

miro, do you have info on where you read that lasiantha and praetorii are the same? wondering if I should update my labels as Lasiantha FKA Praetorii

[@BasiePlants]

It was explained in the latest issue of Hoya telegrafen :) It is also updated on Plants of the World Online :)

[@deantapt2035]

Your accent!! Are you from Portugal? 😃 great video!! Thank you!

[@BasiePlants]

No, I am from Serbia :)

[@deantapt2035]

@@BasiePlants wow thank you for your reply! I found your chanel today or yesterday and have been watching several videos and i’m loving it!!

[@debracancelliere4081]

You have serious pronunciation skills!

[@curlsbynat9763]

I like to bottom water all my plants every week😁 I'm first

[@mwoods4608]

mine did great when they were in chunky soil and I bottom watered. then i started pon and really struggled to find a balance

[@BasiePlants]

Yes. Pon definitely works fantasitc for some sp but for some it is too much hassle.

[@samtata5632]

I would like to try reservoir pots to reduce dry rot . I wanted to try a mix with both both rocks and organic , is this possible ? Like some fernfiber and coir, but with pumice and perlite ?

[@debracancelliere4081]

I noticed you watered your pots hanging on your wall grid. It looked like they were in cache pots and you went quickly from pot to pot. How do you know there isnt water left at the bottom of the pot? I would love to water like this because I take too long to water my plants. Any tips on more time efficient watering?

[@BasiePlants]

There is water at the bottom of those pots, but there is also a barrier - they have like an inner ledge. so the pot sits on that and water goes below it. These can be hacked to be self-watering too, but the reservoir is very small. Usually there are some roots that go in that reservoir and then they will quickly soak that water up, in less than 30 minutes. :) It has not caused issues for me, as it is not a problem unless they sit in the water for days.

[@karenjenkins277]

Hi Miro, do you have any tips on growing a PNG SV441 please? It's a cutting rooted in pon, self watering, not doing anything, no growth. It's also on a heat mat under a light. Am I doing something wrong?

[@BasiePlants]

That is Hoya liddleana now :) I am not great with this type of hoya. I restarted mine, it was growing, but the leaves were small. Check your plant for mites. These likes warmth, bigger pots, and to be left alone - they will wrap themselves around the trellis on their own. They like high light, but not too much and I think self-watering pot in pon is a great choice. It sounds to me like it could be a mite issue?

[@karenjenkins277]

@@BasiePlants thank you for your swift reply! I'll check it out.

[@MelissaWalker82]

NOT a veteran, but I think they want as much water as they can get provided the potting medium is very airy. All of mine are either in LECA or Pumice in some kind of Semi Hydro or Self Watering kinda deal. Constantly moist one way or another. Pumice has been the most forgiving medium for me so far, ,hands down. Thanks, Miro!

[@BasiePlants]

Oh I would love to try more in pure pumice, but you know how difficult that is to find here. 😂

[@loricrawford8426]

When using self watering pots how do you apply fertilizer?

[@BasiePlants]

In the reservoir :)

[@lakev3944]

What is the best way to keep Hoyas alive if I go on vacation for 2 weeks?

[@joehisel5966]

Wayettii and kentiana are different!!

[@BasiePlants]

These two species while currently appear as valid on POWO are under review and it is expected that both will change; even for the botanists it is hard to distinguish what would make wayetii separate from kentiana and then further to inconspicua... There will a review of Phillipine Acanthostemmas (group under these fall into). But to be clear - difference in the size and shape of the leaves does not a species make, nor do slight variations in the flower - for example, there are many lacunosas with smaller and larger flowers, but they are all lacunosa. Same for verticillata. It is necessary to take into account the wide geographical range where these plants grow and then see if something can be just a natural variation of a species or does it deserve to be a separate species.

[@plantsandspreadsheets]

Where did you get that watering thingy magingy?

[@grannyplants1764]

I got one the first time I saw Miro use one, and I love it! It’s called a pump sprayer because after you fill it you pump the handle up and down to make the pressure for the spray. I got a gallon size for about $15 at a big box store ( Lowe’s) in the USA. You can also adjust the water to be spray or stream. 😊🪴 Thank you again Miro! 🤗

[@riawhetstone3725]

My self watering pots take FOREVER to dry out. What’s that about??

[@charissecarrigan2945]

I am a beginner hoya mom. I actually feel very intimidated to even comment among all you pros. I only went back to being a plant parent after retiring two years ago. I had to move and down-size. My plant family has been cut back to only 33 plants. Only 14 are VERY basic (easy-going) Hoyas__mostly different carnosas [easy on the budget & easy on my disabilities]. They all seem very happy and continue to grow year-around (but no blooms yet). All are in my east facing-window, and I have grow lights for the darker months. *** Here's my question...I've been told by several people that after watering my Hoyas, to spray them directly with orchid foliar fertilizer. I only tried this a couple times this past month. No bad side-effects that I can see. They seem to still be thriving, but have you or any of your subscribers heard of doing this? Am I just being gullible and stupid...or do you think it may help them?

[@BasiePlants]

No need to feel intimidated! We are all hoya lovers here

[@charissecarrigan2945]

@@BasiePlants Thank you so very much. I hope one of your summercamp videos will touch on best types of fertilizer. I mix my own medium & so far, have used and stirred in worm castings. But I want what is best for their roots. Appreciate you a LOT!🙂

[@grannyplants1764]

Ah yes Miss Carnosa is currently relating to Wrinkled Leaves Symptom. oops 😱🌱

[@Allieppr]

How do I know when I've moved from beginner to intermediate? Is there a specific number of hoya? 😏

[@BasiePlants]

hahaha :D Hm, I think it is more of a species selection :D If you take on more challenging hoyas! :)

[@Allieppr]

@@BasiePlants well…my Chelsea finally decided to put out some new growth. I feel like a MASTER OF HOYA…but it’s probably just because I put it outside for the summer and told it to GET TO WORK SLACKER. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@LindaEnfield]

I’m a savage 😂

[@annaschettini6527]

Ciao ti seguo dall'Italia puoi mettere sottotitoli in italiano nei tuoi video?🥰

[@BasiePlants]

KZbin ads automatic subtitles, it is up to them, not me :)

[@sumansingh3383]

Hindi in answer

[@atociekawe9136]

I need someone to water my hoyas😅

[@BasiePlants]

SAME

[@JanetMorris-qh9vz]

Thank you for dissing the cringe-worthy taco test. I'm no expert, with only 3 years of collecting, but I knew early on that it was cruel to withhold water until your plant begs for a drink...

[@grannyplants1764]

Miro! You forgot to talk about the wonderful pump sprayer! 🪴

[@SuperJoeStalin]

I needed this motivation go water all of my hoyas today. They thank you.