How NOT to create MP3 music from cassette (Feat. Techmoan)

[@LGR]

Superb to see two of my favorite channels combined! Great topic as always, David :)

[@Wiktorion]

Three of my favourite channels in the same place?! You guys are the trifecta of retro electronics. LOVE your channels.

[@Oryaw]

8-Bit Guy Techmoan LGR The holy KZbin trio of outdated technology.

[@wolfgangervin2582]

Pepsi Man You forgot Oddity Archive.

[@iminthatweirdpartofyoutube2687]

It's not out of date if you still use them!

[@blutkprotection5597]

+Pepsi Man YAAAAA!

[@serioushex3893]

So when you crushed that thing with the steamroller, would that be "Compressed audio?"

[@kurtkluge1686]

Compressed into 8 million bits.

[@onemancheeseburgerarmy2972]

No, that's crushed audio

[@missingno2401]

@@onemancheeseburgerarmy2972 bitcrushed audio

[@Blue_Flower8812]

lol

[@tharii314]

decimated...

[@kenm2709]

Another reason why the recording is so bad, is because it doesn't record directly, it records the sounds out of it's own speakers with a little mic in the front, that's why that small hole in the front is labeled MP3 mic, don't believe me? Try to convert tape to MP3 with the volume off, nothing will be recorded. This thing is beyond cheap, it's a complete rip off.

[@Naitrio]

oh god thats so bad.

[@The8BitGuy]

seriously? If that were true, then it would probably pick up other sounds in the room. I should have tested that, but it is too late now. hahah.

[@kenm2709]

The 8-Bit Guy I'm dead serious, I tested this myself, and yeah if you have the volume low enough and you are doing other things you'll pick it up, take a look at the box if you still have it, you'll see the little MP3 mic in the front.

[@iamstickfigure]

LOL! Wowwww.

[@oldschoolgamer8278]

レトロアートVideos You're just kidding! that's so bad. You would hear a car with is passing by and so on. Be happy u don't have any troubles with that piece of.... junk, 8-bit guy!

[@cirava]

The converted audio from the boom box sounds like if you downloaded the WAV from Limewire, put it into Windows Movie Maker, than went and uploaded it to KZbin in 2005.

[@dhc612]

Then someone downloaded it, played it through a high school PA system, somebody then recorded THAT, and uploaded this to limewire, then the entire process repeated once again.

[@totaltotalmonkey]

Then someone downloaded it, played it through a PA system, somebody then recorded THAT, and uploaded this to limewire, then the entire process repeated once again, again.

[@mcrecordings]

So myspace quality? :D iirc that was only 64kbps, I used to rip audio off there (unique remixes etc.) and it was utter garbage. I wonder how Tom's doing...

[@fetusman2248]

@@totaltotalmonkey Almost a copy lol

[@inactiveytchannel]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5XPnWyqjMuAp9U this video did that process back in 2005, and still has better quality

[@Di3mondDud3]

After seeing that ytp, when he made the face all i heard was techmoan singing "we're up all night to get lucky"

[@thespkrYT]

This original video felt weird now because I watched those YTPs all the time lol

[@zsin128]

@@thespkrYT same

[@rentisme]

Same bro 😂😂

[@SockyNoob]

@@thespkrYT Same

[@cat1554]

We're up all night to get lucky. We're up all night to get lucky. We're up all night to get lucky. We're up all night to get lucky.

[@KnapfordMaster98]

8 Bit Guy and Techmoan collab. Well, there's my life completed.

[@Evan2]

KnapfordMaster98 I know right? I'm crying it's amazing

[@mrsnoo86]

Holy moly. Yes! 😆😆😆

[@jpTankMan]

Now all we need is LGR, and the circle is complete.

[@seanharris6982]

Total nerdgasm.

[@Ojisan642]

Plus a bonus KZbin Pedant segment at the end. Brilliant!

[@LaskyLabs]

"Techmoan keeps sending me junk, and I'm just gonna throw it away." "This, is a Glock 19"

[@araigumakiruno]

Terrible Person ytp

[@aris95]

Whaaat ytp???? "YTP stands for KZbin Poop. Taking sources from franchises, videos, memes, photos, and music then mashing them together with a video-editing software (Vegas Pro)." urban dictionary

[@kristianmucaji9420]

I prefer a Glock 17.

[@LaskyLabs]

@@kristianmucaji9420 the Glock is boring. Don't get me wrong, reliable, but so boring... I prefer a USP or Berettas.

[@kristianmucaji9420]

@@LaskyLabs WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT THE GLOCK!?

[@LRM12o8]

13:18 Well, I must say, usually I'm against unnecessarily producing e-Waste and thus hate to see scenes like that, but because of how many audacious claims this device makes while failing miserably to fulfill them, I was really glad when I saw the Steamroller! This needless electronic device destruction was WELL DESERVED! PS: love the collab with Mat!

[@bjornroesbeke]

This device is e-waste from the moment it's produced.

[@RickyRat256]

I own it it’s good for playing tapes

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@@RickyRat256 But it can't actually play tapes properly. It's no good for that either...the steamroller is all it's good for. The only other thing I can see is scavenging the magnets from the speakers, if you need strong magnets.

[@Kristjan687]

@@bjornroesbeke goes for bad chinese phones too

[@ALittleBitOfGay]

@@StormsparkPegasus those janky ass speakers definitely don’t have strong magnets in them. They are at best refrigerator magnet strength

[@dugpa175]

Lol, great to see the Techmoan muppets make an appearance.

[@jamesrbrindle]

M Dunn sad as it might sound, i live for those little sketches with the puppets/muppets at the end of the videos. Proper cheered me up after a bad day.

[@SudosFTW]

I too share this like for the Techmoan Muppets. and, the more they show up, the better he gets at using them. it would make my day if CTW contacts Techmoan to do some sort of one-off on Sesame Street as a muppet that repairs old electronics or a tape player or something to teach the lesson of "just because it's old doesn't mean you need to throw it away" to help instill that sort of thing into today's youth, and hopefully help to stunt at least some of the wasteful choices of individuals later on in life when it comes to physical amenities, their age, and their features compared to something newer. even if they make him use a different muppet altogether, the muppet voice is all anyone needs to hear. it's perfect, and sticks with you. that's not something you easily forget.

[@aintgotnobody5518]

MrMe01 yeah like we are gonna believe you

[@minion_josh_]

MrMe

[@LouSpowells]

The 8BG and Techmoan? That's just awesome. I know I'm a bit late to the party, but I sure would enjoy seeing a few more crossovers like this, perhaps even with other tech-channels.

[@sdf39882]

Aww. For real crossover, you shoulda sent that thing to Hydraulic Press Channel.

[@zappy595]

Steve Fernandez omg yes

[@Sciesdraspsp]

or the will it blend channel.

[@thogameskanaal]

To Ashens...

[@l4p1n]

And that radio can attack us at any time, so we must deal with it !

[@RCAvhstape]

"This boombox could strike at any time, so we must deal with it."

[@005AGIMA]

Ouch! We get these "retro" systems here in Australia and I was tempted, and even more so when I realised tape to MP3 was a feature. Glad I didn't pull the trigger. I think the best "retro looking" technology...is....original retro technology :)

[@XX-121]

just get a walkman or something and use the headphone output with an 1/8" to 1/8" cable to the line in on a pc and use a program like audacity (free) or sony sound forge to record it to a wave file. then convert to mp3. in sound forge all you have to do is resave your file as an mp3 and it has an awesome built in converter. not sure about audacity because i have never used it.

[@minecraftWithDanielD]

trance dj Tell me, if your trying to get the best quality out of an audio file, why would you bother compressing the recording with a lossy format? Realtek technologies are already shit enough, I don’t understand why you’d bother converting to mp3 when you have a passable file already

[@pault151]

Bit late response, but.... None of the tape>MP3 have Dolby decoding, so you're already losing decent response and noise reduction. Nobody is willing to spend the licensing fees to pay Dolby anymore, which is why I made sure to have my old high-end cassette deck cleaned and calibrated. Not bothering with doing new cassettes anymore of course, I still probably have a few new ones sitting around like Techmoan did.

[@Mosolarfan]

now that is some serious music compression @ 13:40 !!!!

[@custommangekyousharingan455]

The Left Hand lol

[@lopescorte104]

laugh hard here kkkkkk

[@barrybear2012]

I would expect to see something like that from shango066 lol.

[@sjm4306]

Lol, after 13:45 I really bet the bass sounded even flatter ...

[@cesar122111]

Hi Shawn haahah

[@rickygonce4103]

HA, ITS FUNNY CAUSE IT'S TRUE!

[@StarryFinita]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... I get it.

[@donifiedG]

sjm4306 i get it

[@donifiedG]

Lol

[@penorpie7224]

11:57 Apparently AdBlock didn't pick this one up.

[@dumdum7786]

Lol

[@cyndernight2422]

you get a cookie!

[@trifus1051]

Lol

[@petergriffingaming6115]

WOOOOSH

[@davidmullenix3757]

@@jonavene12 r/woooosh

[@0ctothorp]

You have my everlasting respect for getting a steamroller to run this thing over, I can't think of another youtuber who would think to do that and it was worth it.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Yeah that thing was horrible. Not even supporting stereo sound means it doesn't even take all the audio off of the tape. So not only is it making bad quality mp3's with a low sample rate, it's destroying half of the source to begin with. Aside from running it over with the steam roller, it would only be useful if you wanted to take it apart, I dunno maybe it had some capacitors or something that would be useful in another application.

[@johndododoe1411]

@@StormsparkPegasus Or the cabinet and mechanism could be refitted with hand built quality stereo electronics that does what this claimed: Analog stereo amplification with X-bass circuitry from an expired 1980s patent, FM stereo reception based on the Kloss receiver design, MP3 and FLAC processing with a Ti BeagleBone based circuit and a navigation LCD behind the tuner scale. Etc. Etc.

[@jaydeniemuth9366]

The only time 8-guy has gone savage.

[@KvertoAnimations]

He has shot a ibook g4 with a airsoft

[@Arcanattg]

@@KvertoAnimations Where? I can't find it :O

[@KvertoAnimations]

Search "destrucion ibook g4"

[@BilisNegra]

@@Arcanattg kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWGnf3h8rN2KZ6s A very old one, guess it would not fit his style these days (well, to be fair it didn't back then either).

[@badgerlordpatrick6493]

Well, there was that time he brought out his piece.

[@Brunosky_Inc]

Crushing that awful boom box with a road roller. Are you appeasing your inner Angry Video Game Nerd, 8-Bit Guy?

[@MisterClaws]

I was wondering if it improved the sound quality after the roller ran it over.

[@minscandboo1213]

+MisterClaws It did actually. Because it's silent.

[@WolfenShinigami]

Probably did. Made a fantastic crunching sound, at any rate.

[@arthurfelipemuckenheim851]

I guess everybody who takes us back to the past to show us some shitty stuff that sucks ass end up the same way...

[@Bounty2223]

Brunosky Inc. No but this is now thr hydraulic ptess channel. It can attack any time, we must deal with it!

[@WarrenGarabrandt]

Was anyone else irrationally excited when Techmoan showed up here?

[@Adenzel]

ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)

[@ModellistaCompulsivoOnline]

Me too! :)

[@technologyproductions-ye3px]

me

[@martinvkumar1]

Warren Garabrandt both were in different continent

[@WarrenGarabrandt]

Yeah, but it is good to see a collaboration video occasionally. I enjoyed it.

[@troyc4841]

Love the crossover. Both of you guys are an attribute to the preservation of vintage gadgets. I'm a fan of both channels.

[@mooniejohnson]

I don't see the problem with the "eject" button not working on the original boombox... why would you ever want to change tapes away from the Ghostbusters soundtrack?!

[@BlokeOnAMotorbike]

copyright issues.

[@Architector_4]

Because one could have been foolish enough to accidentally put a non-Ghostbusters cassette!

[@peteytwofinger]

i had this problem in a car , the tape was faith no more king for a day abum .

[@zhubwat]

@@Architector_4 Those who are foolish enough to do so are banished from listening to Ghostbusters cassettes.

[@BilisNegra]

Still an issue, since the unit has no auto.reverse...

[@AlainHubert]

After 13:45 it should say X-FLAT instead of X-BASS on it... lol ! A perfect example that even in 2017, there are still some really crappy Chinese products being produced over there. Despite their huge improvements in the electronics market over the last decades.

[@jari2018]

I wouldn't cost them anything to fix it either but if they are tonedeaf and thinks 64 k mp3 is good - only variable mp3 around 100 k has the smallest size to sound good.

[@beszt95]

You get what you pay for. Honestly though, I still would've expected better for even $30.

[@FigureFarter]

now 2019

[@Tahngarthor]

I just wanna be fair here and say *just because* something comes from china doesn't mean it's going to be bad quality, but as is said, you get what you pay for, so if you buy a cheap box, expect it to sound like crap.

[@nicolek4076]

I remember a time when "Made in Japan" meant really crappy quality.

[@thequux1]

13:34 Probably the best sound that unit ever made.

[@Sleeve_Did_It]

The recording from the QFX machine sounds like AM radio. And I was seriously considering buying one of these before I watched this video. You saved me about $30 and a lot of headaches. Thank you.

[@LoserNO13]

You gotta be kidding me lol. First I stumbled across 8-bit guy, which led me to The Obsolete Geek and they just happen to be friends, then some time later started watching Techmoan and now they're collaborating. Awesome!

[@dizzeep2023]

The ending was extremely satisfying

[@Megacooltommydee]

Reminds me a bit of the Angry Video Game Nerd for some reason, but without any of the cursing or the anger.

[@nuralimedeu]

Yes, right, let's just destroy a bad piece of hardware out of frustration instead of properly recycling it into something more useful. In my opinion, the destruction was pretty pointless.

[@leandrotami]

Reminds me of Malcolm in the Middle, when the dad uses one of those to crush lightbulbs and all kinds of stuff just for fun.

[@raminatox]

"'Infinity War' Is The Most Ambitious Crossover Event In History" Me: This video...

[@kirkmooneyham]

That "boom box" really has about one use only: cheap radio for the garage, just for some background music while working on the car or whatever.

[@DIYDSP]

I have one of these. Un4tunately the tuner is very bad, only gets two stations. The whole unit is horrible. I forgot how painful D batteries are to unload, charge, and reload. The flash media poke out car and are just begging to be broken off. Recording from radio is awful.... I suspect it's using the microphone, not wires for rec signal!

[@StormsparkPegasus]

It doesn't really even have that...this thing is literally "not fit for purpose", it doesn't do what it was advertised to do *at all*. It's completely useless as anything but e-waste, or taking apart the speakers and scavenging the magnets. Smashing it with a steamroller is more useful than the device itself.

[@ArmaBiologica35]

Or maybe as a way to salvage parts for other projects, though I do think the quality of the individual components is much better than the unit as a whole lol.

[@BilisNegra]

@@DIYDSP Absolutely not using the mic. Probably you're just joking but there are lots of comments actually believing that's the case FOR REAL!

[@karvast5726]

Then for the price why not buy any other radio

[@MuradBeybalaev]

Ludwig V.Beethoven joke was worth it.

[@Adenzel]

I was gonna mention that, I shall like yours instead =)

[@FinalBaton]

I chuckled irl

[@benjaminmiddaugh2729]

I know I'm late to the party, but that has to be the best joke I've heard from the TechMoan muppet crew.

[@spudd86]

Dual Mono actually means it's treating the left and right as totally independent when encoding, that is it's essentially the same as two mono MP3s played at the same time with one going to the left and the other the right. Normally stereo MP3s use the fact that left and right audio signals are usually highly correlated to get better compression without loosing quality (or better quality at the same bit-rate). So not only did it mix it down to mono it then wasted bits encoding the same thing twice.

[@LRM12o8]

Oh, and I thought someone had finally found a name for "mono sound coming out of both channels simultaneously", as opposed to the actual mono that is left channel only. Damn it!

[@33Duce]

8-bit-guy + Techmoan = Awesome Content

[@MaksimchukFL]

I love how they put linear potentiometer for volume purposes (has to be a logaritmic one, just because that gradient needed)

[@ShadowTV2006]

the mp3 sounds like its been recorded in 8 khz

[@HamtaroEL]

22050hz sample rate gives 11025hz signal which is not good for music but okay for speech.

[@agentsmith3577]

yeah, like a landline telephone!

[@audiodood]

yikes

[@PaulMansfield]

sounded like original eight bit computer sound!

[@lunakittyyy]

Cmon, a SoundBlaster on Windows 3.11 sounds infinitely better. How do you screw this up this much?

[@thewrightwilliams]

techmoan and 8 Bit Guy at the same time is like Christmas and Easter on the same day. Seriously, this was my two favorite channels at the same time. 10/10

[@rrpiva]

Compressed sound at the end!

[@The8BitGuy]

haha.. Yeah, I definitely upped the compression, didn't I?

[@IVAN3DX]

Death Magnetic seal of approval

[@GeoNeilUK]

Have a +1 for making the sort of joke that I wouldn't get until I'm sat on the bus hours later laughing my arse off to the bewilderment of my fellow passengers.

[@christhomas7905]

Awesome to see two great KZbinrs collaborating together for our entertainment. Love watching you guys!

[@markanderson350]

Just because the sound was a bit flat, does not mean you had to make the machine flat. LOL

[@Emptiness_Machine_2001]

Mark Anderson if the Sound would have been only a bit flat

[@henryrichard7619]

Honestly it was like a quarter tone sharp

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

Real men hold the recording device up to a speaker.

[@Dimondminer11]

Real men use an old Samsung Convoy 2 flip phone to record music off of the radio before they had any smart device of any type.

[@DimitriVonTolan]

Since 1996

[@FOXFIRE_RACING]

Lmao i been there

[@rm_steele]

Real men fall into a ditch and have their body never recoverd, therefore dying to mysterious circumstances

[@aleydaangeles4921]

Real men remember the song through memory and hum it to hear it

[@3xP053r]

I just finished watching the newest Techmoan's video about an obscure camera, glanced through Subscriptions list - and cool, a new video from the favourite youtuber, 8-Bit Guy! But clicking it and seeing "Feat. Techmoan"? What kind of sorcery is this? Really, the only missing thing is to send it out to EEVblog to take it apart and then to Ben Heck to make it into a handheld console with water fountain :D

[@The8BitGuy]

haha.. I just met Ben Heck in person 3 days ago. I haven't talked to the EEVblog guy, though.

[@dylantruong897]

Cool.

[@FennecTECH]

dave is quite a guy and is verry responsive would love to see the two of you togther

[@markusdauer6676]

i watch both videos just now :D i'm a huge fan of these two guys

[@smarkies]

Then send it to Biclivedotcom, then ColinFurze to make it much more awesome, and have it reviewed by ColdFusion or Ahoy, then CaptainDisillusion, then after all that send it to Hydraulic Press Channel + SlowmoGuys.

[@Mastergeko4]

I can imagine David’s conversation with his friend to ask him if he could run over a crappy boombox with a steam roller

[@justuslm]

I'm blown away by the quality of that cassette tape though. In KZbin quality you don't hear the difference to the original file at all!

[@ethan043]

You don't even need a fancy deck like Techmoan's to get a nice recording, you can get almost the exact same sound from any half-decent deck from the 70s or 80s, and you can pick them up really cheap. Cassette is underrated.

[@justuslm]

MrEthan520 Anonymous Let me just make sure I understood you right. In general, tessellated polygons are less intensive for the GPU as 'true' polygons, since they use a lot of the information from the original polygon that they were tessellated from. Right?

[@freeculture]

Problem with tapes is rubber, and all rubber gets old (hard) and causes trouble. Unless your deck doesn't use belts and does direct drive or something. Same problem with VCRs, rubber, and replacing it is not trivial, and the people who used to do it for a living, are pretty much gone by now. He has that very problem with his Panasonic. The cool thing about digital memory media, is they don't use moving parts anymore, and quality depends on dac, codec and digital compression settings.

[@ciprianwinerElectronicManiac]

That's true but when using a older tape deck, you don't have the fancy tape calibration so that It will sound exactly the same as the source. I've gotten some very good recordings on very very cheap tape decks from 80's and very bad results with others. But I've got lucky I guess.

[@EduardRitok]

yeah, cassette tapes can be very high quality media .. even I am still using them these days .. I record from wav or flac files only ...listening experience is much better than if I would listen to 192- or even 320 kbps mp3 ... I use chromium dioxide tapes ..occasionaly metal alloy tapes

[@shamuutube]

Just give the radio to hydraulic press channel and let him deal with it

[@The8BitGuy]

Actually.. I seriously thought about that. But I needed to finish this episode since it has been in production for 3 weeks, but I had to go out of town in the middle of it, which delayed it.

[@nonyabizz9390]

An amazon review of the product that was ONLY the video of the steamroller would be hysterical. One thing I found funny was how you suggested people make MP3 files at the end of the episode. I did the exact opposite in highschool! A portable CD player was just not an option, and even if it were, I didn't own enough CDs. Copying my MP3s to tape and playing them on my walkman was much easier!

[@The8BitGuy]

I did much the same back around 2000 because I still had a cassette player in my car.

[@25852Dan]

I still use one of these in my car that has a cassette player: images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51xadE%2BiqHL._SX300_.jpg I plug it into my phone and the sound quality is good.

[@Ruinah]

The 8-Bit Guy Similarly, I used to record Tracker modules to tape using the line in on a karaoke machine when I was in high school. 90 minutes of my favorite Demoscene music per tape...

[@BlokeOnAMotorbike]

I built an mp3 to cassette playthrough bug out of an old pair of earbuds and a cassette shell, worked great. OK the output was mono through the bug but I didn't have access to micron-precise wirespinning gear... yeah, just like that thing @25852Dan has.

[@Bassotronics]

I remember when mp3 was becoming a thing, I was hearing so many terrible mp3 recordings and I was furious that people were ditching CDs for crappy low bitrate mp3s. But I’m glad that the majority of people a few years later noticed that and then tried to locate higher bitrate mp3s or FLAC. I even know people who converted all their CDs to MP3 and end up throwing away the CD’s. That’s total ignorance right there because original CDs have better quality than MP3. I want to vomit when people do that. And especially when they record them at 128kbps or lower. 🤢

[@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores]

When people have poor listening devices, they may not even know what they are missing. I remember back when most video cards could only support 256 colors, people would recompress JPEG images to GIF and not know the difference. I know a guy who has converted hundreds of his CDs to MP3. However, if he had not done this, he would not have sold many of his CDs to me for a dollar or two a piece. :)

[@pineappleroad]

I feel kind of glad that when I first started ripping CDs, I selected a lossless format (WMA Lossless) several years later I ended up having to re-rip everything, as I didn't have a way of converting the lossless files into MP3, and I ripped it to MP3 (and I deleted the lossless files) and now a few years after that ive ripped the CDs that I still have to FLAC (still have most of the CDs, the ones I dont have are ones I dont really care about, and I am also glad I was able to successfully rip the irreplaceable CD that is badly scratched to FLAC, which is a CD you CANNOT buy in any shops to my knowledge, and it seems as though there may be less than 100 copies of that CD, and NONE of the CD databases seem to recognise the CD, I dont even have the names for the tracks, as when I was given that CD it was not even in a proper CD case, and it seems to be a burnt CD)

[@debranchelowtone]

I agree with you, this is why i did everything in FLAC. Worse thing is that there are many local radios that plays mp3, even through FM and audio treatments you can still hear the lossy compression.

[@gayusschwulius8490]

To be honest, most people cannot tell the difference between a properly encoded 320 kbps MP3 and the equivalent raw PCM sound anyways. It requires both very fine ears and very high end equipment to tell the difference. So using MP3s is perfectly fine for most people.

[@Bassotronics]

@ *GayusSchwulius* Yea. Most people. But the point I’m trying to make is that the quality instead of getting better throughout the years it actually got worse with the introduction of the MP3 after having CDs with studio quality for such a long time. I have yet to try out the DSD format though.

[@RCAvhstape]

8bit AND Techoan? In one video? My computer is melting down from the awesome...

[@Halo3machenima]

The sound quality of that thing is like someone farting into a tin can.

[@Ubersnuber]

Hey, if the tin can is of good quality, and the fartee drank lots of beer the day before tinning it; there could be some good bass happening.

[@AshtonSnapp]

Ubersnuber *slow claps*

[@Milamberinx]

Ah, that's by Bach, isn't it?

[@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917]

Shannon Gerry Never finish of Debussy. ALWAYS finish on the Bach.

[@Rocky2000258]

@@Ubersnuber true

[@SenjayaXiera]

2 youtube legends on 1 video. This is my best day

[@BilisNegra]

Same here.

[@c88rrado]

feeling exact the same thing mate

[@HBC101TVStudios]

Still no VWestlife.

[@YanestraAgain]

Small comment: The MP3 technology did not become patent-free until 2017, so that a license was required until then, especially for the encoder technology. As far as I remember, the fees were also based on the supported sampling frequency.

[@MemeReviewer]

Huh, guess that explains the bad quality

[@billlowe70]

I started laughing at 9.32 when the distinctive sound of the 80's came out the Modern QFX's recording of an 80's sounding piece of music that originated on MP3. You're home now MP3, safe and sound in good old 1985 "1985?!"

[@user-gb7cl8np3p]

Hahahah!!!

[@numbers9to0]

Universes collide! Like they did before with Techmoan and LGR. The end is near! Send the boombox to EEVblog for a teardown. :)

[@SomeGuy_GRM]

ö. . , now we just need to get all three in the same video.

[@minscandboo1213]

420/911 cossover ideas, especially the duraga1 one.

[@videotape2959]

druaga1 makes some of the most useless and insipid videos I have ever seen on this website. I do not see the appeal at all.

[@edmanrapperu]

They're appealing because of how pointless it is (for the most part). It's entertaining to watch him dick around and trying to overclock his oven or whatever.

[@spikester]

I think Bigclive would be a better one to tear this down, he'd go into much more detail with it than Dave ever would. It would be interesting to see if they just ran mono off the tape to the recorder/usb board.

[@NikiDaDude]

Feels weird watching Techmoan in only 720p

[@Liofa73]

Looked the same as usual on my iPad... Where I prefer to watch KZbin.

[@williamhayden7711]

Is that what that was? I was wondering. Time to make a video about it.

[@gavincurtis]

Your right. I noticed it didn't look as good on my 4K HD watch.

[@miaugato93]

> only 720p looks at personal devices: *1280x1024 desktop, 1280x800 laptop, 858x480 phone* ten keks

[@AlphaXY13]

OVD >only 1080p devices Looks at devices: 3840x2160 desktop, 2560x1440 phone, who needs laptop when you got phone. ten keks

[@LauriEkman]

Techmoan made great job recording the tape!

[@BoyAditya]

Thechmoan got a sweet audio setup

[@chaugan]

Regarding what you are saying about it being LEGAL to record from the radio to a tape "back in the good old days"; here in Norway, a fund was set up when the cassette tape came to the marked and the goverment put a dedicated tax on all new blank cassettes. The specail tax went straight to that fund and the redistributed to the official Norwegian corporation that administers copyrights for music in Norway, so that artists got some portion of the "lost money" because of "piracy" (it was later continued to blank CDs). I've also read that the Swedish goverment did the same thing. So, yes, it was "legal" by not being a law against it here, but still, we paid for it in some way. Today's fun fact!

[@miaugato93]

i agree of that, my country (Portugal) recently applied that for storage devices. I prefer that than prosecution for downloads. In this information age, downloading is the bane of society.

[@QlueDuPlessis]

Here in South Africa, it's officially illegal. It never stopped anyone but there yer go.

[@organfairy]

The Danish government did the same for blank CDs.

[@doktorno6755]

Same thing in Poland. The CD burners, xerox machines and everything that has recording features has copyright levies included in price. I am not sure about smartphones, computers etc.

[@HidekiShinichi]

chaugan I guess if you would market that tape as a "tape for programs for computer" or something like that you could ommit this tax xd

[@d0kker]

Im seriously watching Techmoan at The 8-Bit Guy video. Good job guys :-).

[@N3RDYKNOWIT]

when two of your favorite youtubers who you know separately are actually best friends :)

[@MIW_Renegade]

N3RDYKNOWIT I know right

[@PurpleSanz]

The steamroller ending was so AVGN, I loved it! LOL

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Yep...I'm usually against destroying things like that, but in this case it was a completely nonfunctional piece of crap that is completely useless for the purpose it was supposedly sold for. The only thing I would've personally done, is taken the speakers apart and snagged the magnets out of them before I crushed it.

[@MDLuffy1234YT]

| ROAD ROLLER |

[@LayangSeto-lu1tc]

The 8-bit Guy : How about going practical !!?? Let's hope whoever rode the steamroller isn't AVGN with "Rolling Rock" gag intended

[@stevemaherart]

This has got to be one of my favourite youtube collaborations since Big Clive and Ashens.

[@kaeden7570]

@Aiden can you send me the link

[@fortherecord1569]

Not mentioned is at 9:07, a good amount of flutter happening. The pitch seems a touch higher too.

[@drumguy1384]

I noticed that as well. Techmoan talks about this a lot when reviewing cassette players. That cassette mechanism is garbage. But it's to be expected since they simply don't make good quality cassette mech anymore. There's a reason Techmoan still uses that deck from the early 90s, quality went downhill after that.

[@CoTeCiOtm]

@@drumguy1384 Well, I have a mid-2000 Sony stereo component that has a cassette player and the mechanism is pretty good. There's a noticeable lack of high frequency response and no selection for chrome/metal tapes and no ability to record to metal tapes, but nothing to say about the level of wow & flutter and azimuth stability, in fact, the mechanism looks almost the same as a mid 90's Pioneer deck I have, so it might be leftover stuff from older decks.

[@coolduder1001]

I don't remember unsubscribing

[@branaa09]

Mitch McCann Thank KZbin I guess they do that!

[@tiagotiagot]

Been hearing about that happening more and more; and it has happened many times with me, I always have to check the subscribe button whenever I click a video, even from the Subscriptions feed, there have been times that the moment I clicked on a video I got unsubscribed from the respective channel. :/

[@fungo6631]

And thus, the 8 bit guy and Techmoan beef YTPs were born!

[@coriscotupi]

Always take marketing claims with a grain or two of salt. When consumer products have huge stickers stating "MEGA BASS", "HIGH POWER" "LOW DISTORTION" or other subjective, eye-catching claims, it's usually just manufacturer's bait to lure unsuspecting consumers into buying their low-quality products. Quality products don't need stickers to state the obvious. Usually, whatever boasts "HIGH QUALITY" stickers, isn't.

[@punker4Real]

I knew bose was not high quality with their cheap Chinese news paper speakers

[@LRM12o8]

damn, I was gonna reply "like bose, right?", but punker4real beat me to it!

[@ps3master72]

Or Beats. But both Bose and Beats are highly overrated.

[@dleland71]

"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase closely associated with P. T. Barnum.

[@petermoeller5901]

Mega bass may mean "mega bad" or "mega mushy". Ever notices good equipment doesn't make the stupid claims like "mega bass" or "500 Watt"?

[@v3xman]

OH EM it's 8Bit guy and Techmoan in one video. My favorite retro electronics channels combined ^_^

[@NukTap]

techmoan's boombox time capsule video showcased something just as bad as this but made in the early 90s

[@wetherby6774]

It's 2020 and I love the nostalgia. I have a SONY boombox that I use only in an emergency, mostly when I convert a cassette file to MP3, I connect the home stereo to the computer. I have problems with straight patch cords with RCA plugs because they produce a loud hum by themselves. I asked computer whiz Kim Komando about it and she recommended to me a unit by Xitel called the Inport Hotwire, which was a bit costly but does the job. I had the earlier version but when Microsoft updated their operating system, my previous version became obsolete and I had to purchase the new one which I believe cost about $70 American. I can happily say I have it a number of years with no complaints and am satisfied. I found this video very entertaining and I am a subscriber to Techmoan's channel, he's a great presenter and has good taste in choosing old equipment. Rock on you guys!

[@jarede3724]

That poor soul copied 300-400 tapes on that thing...

[@bluboxes]

Jared E I have no sympathy, if he did that without noticing the garbage quality, he is an idiot.

[@LRM12o8]

@@bluboxes HAVE YOU NO HEART?! EVERYONE should feel bad for the 300-400 tapes that have been abused in that terrible machine and could've been brought to much better use! SHAME! Now I can only try to find solace in the thought that maybe, just maybe, he might bei a paid shill who actually didn't make a single bit of tape suffer this terrible fate worse than a treatment to the world's strongest magnet...

[@samuelsujuno375]

@@LRM12o8 he should have gotten an old tape player (like a sony boombox) to record the tapes over to digital. its what I use to record my old mixtapes to digital before I overwrite them. Sounds just as good as the analog version.

[@judenihal]

I only hope that the content is just speech and not music. I mean for storybooks and voice recordings, this would be fine even though the quality will degrade, but when recording these kinds of content quality becomes lesser of a priority.

[@MetalheadAndNerd]

@@LRM12o8 Maybe these were 300-400 chrome tapes which were thrown into the bin after the owner did the transfer.

[@pauljs75]

Anyone else disappointed there's no smell-o-vision when the new cassette was opened?

[@trashcan4798]

5:58 oh my god I love that Nixie tube display

[@BlueAcidball]

“Ludwig v. Beethoven” I see what you did there

[@D4MexicanStaringFrog]

8 bit guy and techmoan. This is the dream

[@afkbehr]

thank you so much for the awesome closed caption. i’m glad you let people like me enjoy your videos :)

[@mobjois]

I love both your channel and Techmoan, so this was extra great. Also, nice job “Americanning it up” by crushing the bad boombox to distorted electric guitars!

[@Bloodname_Gaming]

This video has been memed to death, so much so that I can no longer watch it without hearing “Nine dollars, which is a lot of money” and so forth

[@DouglasWalrath]

aww u should've had bigclive or EEVblog take it apart

[@the123king]

Photonicinduction should just fry that crappy modern boombox

[@DouglasWalrath]

Josh Rice sure, after bigclive or eevblog reveals its innermost secrets

[@joshuasprucie8933]

Douglas Walrath just needed big clive to open it for inspection and more epic electrical destruction

[@ShawnTewes]

Ben Heck and co. could use it for salvage wars 2

[@ericjx]

What happened to Photon? He reappeared for all of a month and then vanished in a cloud of plasma.

[@matthewkinney5474]

When your two favorite youtubers get together and make a video 😀

[@michaelmayne6097]

I love binge watching your vids man

[@RossWasTaken]

Michael V A P O R W A V E yeah, I'm sick and off school so I'm bored and bedridden, these vids definately do the trick for me.

[@KrizmaOG]

i know this is an old video but gotta love seeing techmoan in videos!

[@rage94]

13:51 you can see how there's all made, looks like this shit is working by a single small cheap PCB, no wonder it has a sound as of the bucket :D

[@AmyraCarter]

It records the treble at a high rate...it's awful...

[@LeminskiTankscor]

As a fan of both channels, that was glorious.

[@jdroo]

I actually think that 20$ radio to mp3 made your intro sound more retro, lmfao.

[@jamesmuffins3330]

Roo I mean you have a point there, but this is the 21st century lol

[@jubuttib]

Eeeehhh, kinda, and kinda not? A lot of people get a retro feel from bad audio quality, but like he mentions in the video, cassette tapes could sound pretty damn good with decent hardware. Retro can still sound terrific.

[@hornybastard1839]

In the time period of the early early days of the interwebs though

[@benniepieters]

Retro, but not in the good way

[@Metatr0n]

Important distinction here: "Retro" means "How it was back then" and not "How we imagine it was back then". People always think everything was shit 30 years ago, while walking around with their iPod and Beats by Dre, staying ignorant of the fact that there were so many devices out there 30 years ago that would have beaten the living crap out of Apple's and Dre's products...

[@coecludd]

I transferred my old tapes years ago by plugging in my tape player audio jack into inputs on the back of my computer and recording on a software called Goldwave. I then used noise reduction, made sure the volume wasn’t too loud during the initial recording and did a fade out at the end to reduce tape hiss.

[@JD92205]

The ending to the X-Bass is totally 80’s, love it

[@HedgehogStudios1]

I'd never expect a 30 dollar boombox to be good but... wow, I wouldn't expect it to be this bad. Also, for those who don't know 99% of the time any audio playback device claims to have bass it doesn't.

[@HedgehogStudios1]

CFAMediaV7 K

[@technologyproductions-ye3px]

Laser Lens I actually expected it to be 5kbs

[@Omnilatent]

I had to laugh a lot when I saw the steamroller. Great video!

[@mr.smash698]

I was laughing so hard I cried a little.

[@Porygonal64]

ROADU ROLLA DAAAA!

[@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591]

You should see 8Bit's last girlfriend... not a pretty sight. Anyway... let's get back to steamroller comments!

[@SKILLED521]

The cameo by Tech Moan is a treat. Two of my favorite KZbin lad.

[@ash_au]

Poor old "TechMoan" doesn't get a link in the description?!

[@Stefan_Payne]

You should have done a Teardown of the low quality one... Or mail it to some Australian guy ;)

[@ConnorR.mp3]

What's his name? Small olive? XD

[@Stefan_Payne]

Dave :D (eevblog)

[@ConnorR.mp3]

Stefan Payne Oh, I thought you meant bigclivedotcom. He's from the UK, though.

[@lcrazy8l]

I'm pretty sure Dave is tired of cheapo electronics on mailbag. He's groaned sooo many times at cheap-ass multimeters & cameras. I do love this Electronics-KZbinr-collab stuff though, Techmoan ending made it even greater than anticipated.

[@ericjx]

Clive would love something like this so long as it was purchased on ebay from China.

[@MadScientistsLair]

That recording is so rubbish that I can hear the sheer badness of it just with my laptop speakers! The ending of the review was SO satisfying...and I think you improved the functionality of the unit in the end. ;)

[@pyotyrprepka1875]

And the sound quality too

[@jannejohansson3383]

Or from mobile phone speaker..

[@goodiesohhi]

AHHHHH. So this is where that clip of Techmoan saying "The 8-Bit Guy" used in the infamous YTP comes from.

[@TomGreen99]

Wow two of my favourite channels! If only Ashens were here....................

[@sj1122334455]

That QFX radio sounds exactly like a low quality flash game

[@riverhuntingdon6659]

Just look at the cassette playhead. You can normally tell if it's a mono head. Think I'd have kept the motor, and head, the rest, into the bin ! The bits might come in handy when resucitating some old cassette recorder. Panasonic knew a thing or two about boomboxes in the 80's. :-)

[@JackBobsonOfficial]

Dual - Mono? Hmm. I think it records in mono and adds another channel with the same audio. Think about this: You have Audacity running and in this programm You have a Beatles mono track. Then You add the same Beatles mono track and You make it a stereo track. This thing does the exact same.

[@johndododoe1411]

Isn't "dual mono" a format intended for two audio languages in one TV broadcast. Like original US English news on audio channel 1 and a Mexican Spanish version on audio channel 2 on a TV station near the border.

[@JackBobsonOfficial]

@@johndododoe1411 Possibly

[@minecraftWithDanielD]

I mean realistically when we listen to mono, it’s basically automatically converted to dual mono just so we can hear on both ears. Though I’d be interested to see if the metadata is just weird, or if it’s a true 2 channel audio file. But MP3 is such a horrible format that it becomes hard to tell. You’d need access to the recorded file. Or anything that this machine spits out

[@JackBobsonOfficial]

@@minecraftWithDanielD True. You just pop it in audacity and there you can see the differences between the channels.

[@WildBluntHickok]

@@minecraftWithDanielD I've seen true mono files in audacity. There's only 1 waveform. We could see the waveforms for both channels in the video.

[@tryzmsotryll]

*WESTINGHOUSE WATER TREATMENT*

[@kylejscheffler]

Dot Com!!!

[@p0llenp0ny]

Shhh it might be copyright.

[@SamLK]

huh

[@araigumakiruno]

Visit westinghousewatertreatment.com its westinghousewatertreatment.com

[@Milamberinx]

I wonder what Westinghouse Water Treatment does, perhaps their website westinghousewatertreatment.com might tell me. Yes that's westinghousewatertreatment.com

[@jokeris1994]

Been watching both channels randomly. Great material. U truly deserve the profits from the videos you make, your videos are actually interesting. Unlike some random shit in the side like "Gordon ramsay perfect shit burger"

[@elephystry]

Emailas Gmailo You're an idiot sandwich.

[@MrButtonpresser]

Great cross-over + muppets!

[@svenschwingel8632]

This device is made of a rare metal called "Chinesium"

[@mr.9931]

No, this comment is not racist... It's kinda true actually.

[@pyotyrprepka1875]

Got that right

[@soldadoryanbr7776]

It's not rare actually

[@mm-xu5df]

QFX BRAND CHINACRAP LTD

[@rob9754]

The thing is also mostly made of a rare plastic called “Chinopolymer”

[@grahammcdonald]

Nice. I enjoyed seeing techmoan turn up. Big fan of both you guys.

[@SquareBiscuitProductions]

Who isn't though am I right? How can you *NOT* love these two?!

[@SuperShermanTanker]

Wow cassette isn't actually bad at all with the quality if you use quality cassettes with quality recording/playback equipment

[@erichraeder2989]

SuperShermanTanker m4 shermans sucks m8

[@GamesFromSpace]

Even commercial cassettes degraded after playing them enough. But yeah, like VHS, they get a bad rep because of how cheap they got towards the end.

[@Thommybee-85]

i have fond memories of them melting in the car.

[@Hagledesperado]

Same here. Well, the car did catch fire, so I guess it was to be expected, but still.

[@qbmac2306]

Maybe the bass on the QFX sounds flat because you crushed it with a steamroller.

[@Peeps40836]

Finally. My dream of a crossover of The 8-Bit Guy, Techmoan and The Moans has come true.