How OLD is Goku? | Dragon Ball Aging EXPLAINED

[@saudbintalib5701]

Also I like to think that Goku's physical age doesn't really equate to his calendar age so technically he wasn't officially born until he was out of his own incubator

[@InnovativeJdawg]

That could be a possibility! We don’t know much about the process behind him being in the incubator aside from a quick panel

[@Only_Some]

​@@InnovativeJdawg but we are aware that saying biology is similar enough to a human biology that they do at least have to carry. And Bulma was what 9 months when she gave birth to bra/bulla whatever the baby's name was

[@yumin_pluto558]

@@InnovativeJdawg Actually Bulma is around 5 when Goku gets sent to Earth in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, so he is fourteen at the start of Dragonball. He says he is twelve at the Tenkai'ichi Budoukai but he wouldn't know his actual age since that information was lost when he lost his memory. In reality this only retcons his statement of being 12 and returns him to 14 at the beginning of Dragon Ball.

[@justinw7323]

Either way I am now older than Buu Saga Goku. Yikes. And I was 16 when starting to watch the show. I'm 40 now going on 41 when he fights Beerus 4 years after the Buu saga. Feeling old. I like to compare my age to Gokus. Cuz in 6 years I'll be as old as he was at the end of Z .

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Been a fan for a long time, that’s pretty cool!

[@justinw7323]

Yeah because of the content and Super being added helped.

[@justinw7323]

I turn 41 this year so I already am his calender age when he fights Beerus for the first time. Yikes. I was a fan for 25 years. Because of all the fresh content coming out. About the same length of time when Goku fights Frieza on namek.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Whenever your birthday comes up, happy birthday! I've been in the fandom since I was a young kid, so it's been about 20 years for me too. Crazy how much time flies.

[@Dreamy1894]

It almost lines up, in '86 he was 12, 38 years later in '24 he should be 50, by looks King Vegeta must've been at least 60 and Paragus 70-80 before aging badly in exile.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Yeah, kinda cool how their fictional years line up with our years

[@wesleykim6523]

Nice to see you back! Also, its kind of funny how Dragon Ball, a series that’s a bit infamous for yelling out numbers, makes something that should be as straightforward as the ages of characters to be something you have to actively look into. (Also, wow! I did not realize how young Goku was back in early Z, being only 24/25 when he first turned Super Saiyan, and having Gohan when he was 20!)

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Thank you, sorry I’ve been gone for a minute! Also I agree, crazy how some power levels are more common knowledge than somebody’s age.

[@bigoofers]

Goku spent a month in the Time Chamber while training with Kami to fight Piccolo, so he is slightly older physically and mentally by a month

[@InnovativeJdawg]

That’s also true. I feel like it’s sort of similar to the Time Chamber he was in with Merus where in the grand scheme of things, even though it does age him slightly, it’s not too important in the grand scheme of things. Although, it could lend itself toward how he physically grew up so much between the King Piccolo and 23rd Tournament arcs

[@MrAppleSalad]

Id love to see you do a continuation of this for GT, really see how desynced those 3 ages can get XD

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Oh yeah that physical age would be pushed all the way down lol

[@jhtoxic7870]

Goku is chronically 45 although mentally he’s 12.

[@Tappin_YT]

@@jhtoxic7870 goku’s is actually really smart

[@jhtoxic7870]

@@Tappin_YT Yeah you’re right. After all, Goku was smart enough to bring back Frieza the biggest psychopath in the universe who is hell-bent on destroying him him and his loved ones. He must be a genius.

[@Tappin_YT]

@@jhtoxic7870 Beerus brought him back

[@jhtoxic7870]

@@Tappin_YT but it was Goku’s idea in the first place. Vegeta even acknowledges this and calls Goku out for his incompetence. And what do you know Goku’s stupidity bit everybody in the ass Frieza’s back and he’s even more powerful form. Also, it’s important to note that they could have immediately killed Frieza once he was brought back, but no, they just let him leave.

[@Tappin_YT]

@@jhtoxic7870 but that was on everyone and if he didn’t get Frieza they would have lost

[@yukikid2195]

I haven’t seen someone mention it. But wouldn’t goku having been dead during the saiyan saga mean his mental age goes up 1+ extra every time? So at 7:12 it should look more like physical:30 mental: 39 calendar: 37?

[@yukikid2195]

Nvm. It’s a 3am lol. You retroactively added it 😅

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Yeah, mental ages have been taken into account lol

[@MostlyAMan]

Stopping someone from saying first.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

And in the process, you get to claim first for yourself 👌

[@lazerbreaker4758]

To do good you must become the villain

[@mitchellbailey6258]

432nd

[@juliangonzalez9744]

first

[@lukewilliams9360]

You became that which you swore to destroy!

[@evanvinet8773]

7:43 so, big point of contention here Elder Kai had about 75 million years remaining, and he gave HIS life to Goku so, would that mean Goku would theoretically live that long?

[@InnovativeJdawg]

I always took it as he just traded his life force to Goku. He died so Goku could live. I don’t think the lifespan transferred over with it, BUT, that would be pretty cool

[@michaelwhite4130]

This video is about as accurate as you can get with this subject. Although its also interesting to note that Goku doesn't even know his true age, considering everyone who was present for it was killed by Frieza. Not that Toriyama had that in mind when making Goku's age, we just have to go off of statements and guides lol

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Thanks for that, I appreciate the comment! It’s definitely a weird subject to talk about, but thankfully those guides and statements are fairly well acknowledged and accepted

[@digitaladventurer2142]

Your ages are slightly off or its a matter of Goku having a late year birthday or something. He actually confirms he's 12 during the 21st tournament thus making him 15 and 18 respectively during the 22nd and 23rd tournament's. They also used the Namekian dragonball's not earths which only took 4 months to use each time. And only a year passed between Goku's fight with Frieza and his arrival on earth. King Kai states this when he feels Frieza coming to earth and it could happen they could have used the Dragonball's the 2 times and then Frieza arrived 4 months or so later. Also Goku and Gohan came out of the chamber 3 hours (or 45 days) early. Not much but still not a full year. All these minor changes are what make Goku's age hard to pinpoint

[@InnovativeJdawg]

I’d argue it’s us not knowing exactly when Goku’s birthday is. He says he’s 14 in the Pilaf Arc, when in reality he really meant 12 (he says he didn’t know what came after 11 when he said the 14 age) and he confirms he made that mistake at the 21st tournament. It’s likely implied that he had just barely turned 12 in the Pilaf Arc and is in the last little bit being 12 at the tournament before he is officially 13 in the Red Ribbon Arc. It’s all up to interpretation though. Late 11-12 is a good estimate for the beginning of the series.

[@onyxwolfreaper21]

As if time travel movies arent confusing enough, freaking Goku's actual age is just as confusing

[@InnovativeJdawg]

True, and it’s only gonna get more confusing when Daima releases lol

[@onyxwolfreaper21]

@@InnovativeJdawg Well shi-

[@IkerProaPlays]

a 4 feet 16 year old 💀

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Yessir

[@davecerv]

What a fun video!

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Thank you!

[@SSJ3MetaridleyXros]

+ add GT Goku: Physical age at the start of GT 48 - after the wish 12 Metal Age 56 Calender Age 52 +1 Year after the Galaxy Tour for the black star dragonballs

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Plus the 100 years at the end when he leaves with Shenron and then shows up to talk to Goku Jr. Thanks for adding that!

[@saudbintalib5701]

@@InnovativeJdawg you mean Shenron hahaha

[@InnovativeJdawg]

@@saudbintalib5701 Oh yeah sorry lol, autocorrect

[@iceboyproductions]

If you add the final age numbers together Goku is currently 141 years old.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

And that’s not even counting GT where he actually goes away for 100 years lol

[@ConvictionAnimations]

I wonder what would happen to vegeta since he's got 30 years left

[@atdynax]

The question is how did Gok know his age, when no one knew the year he was born in? On planet Vegeta the way years are counted isn't the same as on earth.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

There’s no real explanation on it, maybe Grandpa Gohan just guessed and told him he was a certain age? Realistically though, it’s just because that’s how Toriyama wrote it, he just had Goku say it and that was that

[@Kirbyranitar]

@@atdynax In all fairness, Goku was a new born (originally) when Grandpa Gohan found him, and I guess his birthday is based on when he found him. That’s my guess.

[@StareachValcin]

Goku stated that he was 12 in the 21st tenkaichi budokai, so he would be 11 at the start of dragonball since Goku was able to search for the dragonballs immediately after the tournament, signifying that a year passed since the start of dragonball. His calendar age, physical age, and mental age should be 1 year shorter than stated in this video.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

@StareachValcin Actually, since he’s 13 in the Red Ribbon Army arc, it’s implied that he’s at the tail end of being 12 during the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai as, like you said, the Dragon Balls were still inactive during the tournament. So it’s still likely that he had just turned 12 sometime during the Pilaf Arc or soon before meeting Bulma. We don’t know when exactly the arc takes place in Age 749. So it goes something like this: He’s 11-early 12 in the Pilaf Arc, late 12-13 in the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai, 13 in the Red Ribbon arc.

[@StareachValcin]

​@@InnovativeJdawgSorry, but I respectfully disagree. Goku did state he was 12 during the tournament, and the red ribbon army arc takes place immediately after the tournament ends. So, Goku's not likely 13 during the red ribbon army arc.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

@@StareachValcin That’s fine if you disagree, it’s all up to interpretation on what months these events fall into, how long the downtime is when things take place, and whenever Goku’s actual birth date is. We only have years to go off of for the most part. But also, I’d like to point out that Goku spends a month in the time chamber as a kid anyway, so that lends itself towards his age being bumped forward, even if just a tiny bit.

[@StareachValcin]

@@InnovativeJdawg it's fair enough to bring up Goku's first time in the hyperbolic time chamber, but that was long after the red ribbon army arc. So, it doesn't change my stance on Goku's age back then. Thanks for being civil, even though we disagree on this stance.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

@@StareachValcinno problem, thanks for the discussion! I hope the video was enjoyable regardless

[@saudbintalib5701]

LMAO!Bulma's hair is literally that greenish blue color in the colored manga at 2:13 only to be completely changed to purple later on OUT OF THE BLUE!Yeah pun totally intended hahaha but it all seriousness was that color a mistake with Toriyama himself being the one to suggest the official colorists to change it to purple this is just like the reddish brown hair Vegeta situation all over again but with Bulma unironically in fact maybe you should make a video about how the Capsule Corp family which Vegeta and King Vegeta are a part of are like the ONLY family in DB to have natural hair color changes just like that on a whimp that'd certainly be fun.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

That’s a pretty good idea to make something talking about their hair color changes, I’ll have to do it sometime!

[@saudbintalib5701]

@@InnovativeJdawg I actually like them all with blue hair probably cuz I love starring at the sky hahaha but still

[@kaminari-Ife]

How annoying would it be to say that I’m the 71st?? Jk, this is a real well made video, you seem like you’ve been perfecting your craft over the years 😅

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Thank you! I’m hoping to keep getting better, but I just want to make videos that people can enjoy first and foremost

[@lazerbreaker4758]

Isn't the original timeline where future cell trunks went back to?

[@InnovativeJdawg]

No, if I remember right I think that’s just another alternate timeline kinda like the “unseen” timeline. But I haven’t brushed up on the timelines discussion for a while.

[@MostlyAMan]

​@@InnovativeJdawg Next video idea?

[@lazerbreaker4758]

@@InnovativeJdawg i think the original timeline is bad where everyone died

[@InnovativeJdawg]

@@MostlyAMan Yeah, I’ve always thought about doing a timelines video at some point!

[@fastinradfordable]

Imagine how amazing the show would be if goku never die💀😭😭😭

[@InnovativeJdawg]

His age would be a lot simpler that’s for sure

[@Georg3e]

Do GT goku next

[@prometheusmodelow8322]

Well you got Goku's age in the RR arc wrong, because he says he's 12 DURING the tournament, the training for the torunament was just like a couple months long, there's an inconsistency with the dragon balls being available in that arc when they are supposed to be stones for a year, but the official timelines officially say that we don't have a year timeskip in between.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

I’d argue it’s all because we don’t know exactly when Goku’s birthday is and when in the year these events take place, other than the Tournament. He says he’s 14 in the Pilaf Arc, when in reality he really meant 12 and he confirms he made that mistake at the 21st tournament. (He says he didn’t know what came after 11 when he said the 14 age). It’s likely implied that he had just barely turned or is in the early to halfway stages of being 12 in the Pilaf Arc, and combining the length of that arc with the training for the tournament, he’s likely in the last little bit being 12 at the tournament, then there’s that short gap where he officially turns 13 in the Red Ribbon Arc. It’s all up to interpretation though. Late 11-12 is a good estimate for the beginning of the series, late 12-13 for the 21st Budokai into RRA.

[@prometheusmodelow8322]

@@InnovativeJdawg Yeah in that year he would turn 13, but not much time passes between the 21 tournament and the RR arc: The tournament is during may 7, and Goku defeats the RR Army in may 12, so unless his birthday was in between those days he would still be 12 when the arc ended. He was definetly 15 and 18 in the 22nd and 23rd tournaments respectively, because they were both also in may 7, and he was likely still 15 when he defeated King Piccolo in may 9. The may 7 date comes from the daizenshuu timelines, it's extrapolated from the may 9 date that is directly stated in the manga by Piccolo when he conquers the world 2 days after the tournament, so they simply established that the tournaments are celebrated on may 7 every 3 years. So it seems Goku's birthday would be around the middle of the year. Also i doubt Goku even knows his real birthday, Grandpa Gohan probably just told him his birthday was the day he found Goku which in the Jaco manga it seems to be in early August which is consistent with what Goku says in the 21st tournament.

[@DenshaOtoko2]

Goku is supposed to be 46 years old in the end of the Dragon Ball Super anime and 55 years old at the start of Dragon Ball GT. And 155 years old in the epilogue of Dragon Ball GT.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Yeah, his calendar age is 46 as of right now

[@AlphaProto]

Nah, I think Goku was right about his age the first time. Toriyama forgot he made him younger. Dragon Ball Super Broly showed it was the year 737 when Goku was sent to Earth. It's the year at the start of the time skip montage.

[@kiran6387]

At end of z vegeta is 53 Goku is 47 And broly is 53 ( he is as same age of vegeta)

[@kagelynx]

Goku literally says he's 12 during the tournament, and there isn't a time skip when he attacks the red ribbon army immediately afterward. There's a contradiction between the manga and the "official guides" timeline.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

@@kagelynx I’d argue part of the confusion is us not knowing exactly when Goku’s birthday is. He says he’s 14 in the Pilaf Arc, when in reality he really meant 12 (he says he didn’t know what came after 11 since he didn’t know how to count at that point) and he confirms he made that mistake at the 21st tournament. But, keep in mind that time HAS passed since the Pilaf arc by the time the tournament starts. It’s likely implied that he had just barely turned 12 in the Pilaf Arc and is in the last little bit being 12 at the tournament before he is turns 13 sometime around the Red Ribbon Arc, whether that be in the middle of it or the end of it.

[@kagelynx]

@InnovativeJdawg I thought I responded with a long post, but I guess not. Long story short, other characters' Manga age doesn't match with the official guide. More contradictions than Goku. My only point. Age is right, depending on the guide or manga.

[@mussajawara2844]

Ebu sent me

[@InnovativeJdawg]

What’s Ebu?

[@LeonardoRodrigues-uj1sm]

Super retcon'd BoG's timeskip

[@InnovativeJdawg]

@@LeonardoRodrigues-uj1sm Do you have a source saying it was retconned? Both the anime and manga say “time has passed” and nothing concrete that would make us think it doesn’t take place a few years after Buu.

[@darienrobertson8667]

2:17 he says he’s 12 during the 21st budokai, not before it. so all your ages are one year too high

[@InnovativeJdawg]

I’d argue it’s all because we don’t know exactly when Goku’s birthday is. He says he’s 14 in the Pilaf Arc, when in reality he really meant 12 and he confirms he made that mistake at the 21st tournament. (He says he didn’t know what came after 11 when he said the 14 age). It’s likely implied that he had just barely turned 12 in the Pilaf Arc and is in the last little bit being 12 at the tournament before he is officially 13 in the Red Ribbon Arc. It’s all up to interpretation though. Late 11-12 is a good estimate for the beginning of the series, late 12-13 for the 21st Budokai.

[@brianlaureus]

You made an mistake Goku and gohan never spent a full year in the time chamber but I get why you kinda just rounded it out.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

@@brianlaureus Yeah, it was not an exact, but basically a full year. Mathematically I think the time they spent equaled out to like 320 days or something very close to a full year like that

[@hue_jazz59]

3:24 wrong, dude . It's all dragon ball up until uub . Dbz is an anime name only

[@InnovativeJdawg]

I’m aware

[@hue_jazz59]

@@InnovativeJdawg you're alright, jdawg. You're alright I'll sub ... for now

[@InnovativeJdawg]

@@hue_jazz59 Hopefully you like the content lol, I appreciate it!

[@hue_jazz59]

@InnovativeJdawg it was your reply good vibes that got me, man . Keep up the good work

[@Her0the_1]

I don't mean to be that guy. But i thought (at least in the anime) Goku and Gohan were in there for only a few months not a full year

[@InnovativeJdawg]

They were in there for about a full year. Not exactly 365 days, but mathematically something like 320 or something around there. Which is just about a year anyway.

[@Her0the_1]

@@InnovativeJdawg ye I googled it right afterwards but there's no way you could calculator the day anyways

[@kstanni87]

Should Goku be retconned to be just be 43 and the mental and calendar ages be dropped ?

[@InnovativeJdawg]

I feel like most people just go based off their calendar age rather than take everything into account

[@ravipapa4134]

Bardock is 64 years old

[@guilhermehx7159]

And GT??? 🙂

[@InnovativeJdawg]

GT takes place roughly 5-6 years after the End of Z and then at the end of GT, Goku disappears and returns after 100 years, but doesn’t look like he’s aged physically!

[@saudbintalib5701]

The real question is does Goku actually love Chi Chi?Jk jk hahaha

[@MicroWave233]

He does but in his own weird way. You can see in the goku black arc he was pissed when he heard zamasu killed chi chi and gohan.

[@saudbintalib5701]

@@MicroWave233 actually it's Goten and Chi Chi

[@MicroWave233]

@saudbintalib5701 my bad. Been a while since I've seen super

[@Sergeant__Pain]

didn't goku go in the time chamber as a kid

[@InnovativeJdawg]

He did, but only for about a month. It might alter his age “slightly” but not enough in the grand scheme of things.

[@jamainegardner4193]

How the devil did you think of this?

[@InnovativeJdawg]

I think I remember coming up with the video idea sometime when I released my Other World video (the most recent video before this one). I was thinking about characters not aging and I wanted to talk more about it

[@jamainegardner4193]

@@InnovativeJdawg I gotta wonder who could possibly have a more confusing age than Goku. Only two that come to mind are Piccolo and Buu.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Goku is definitely one of the most confusing since he’s died AND he’s been in the Time Chamber for long periods of time. Piccolo I’d say is confusing in terms of visuals, cause it’s hard for some people to see him as just a few years older than Gohan. Buu’s age is pretty straightforward, he’s just SO old because he’s been around since time immemorial, so he’s very very very old. Vegeta’s age could be confusing, he’s died a lot alongside Goku and has been in the Time Chamber several times too, even more than Goku

[@jamainegardner4193]

@@InnovativeJdawg For Piccolo, I was more meaning that not only is there already a problem with his age given that he has the memories of King Piccolo as his reincarnation vs physically being a child, but then when he merges with Nail, does that add their ages together? What about Kami? Does becoming essentially the Nameless Namekian again also add to his age, or even reset it? There's several things to factor in there that might make Piccolo currently over 1000 years old despite physically being 30.

[@DanielJakeManalang]

I got send by our father Ebullience

[@Djrodent1]

Didn't he go into the chamber as a kid

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Yes, but it was only for about a month which, even though it does age him, it doesn’t do much in the grand scheme of things

[@darthmagician]

Like 40

[@InnovativeJdawg]

At some point, yeah

[@Georg3e]

Dragon ball minus? The hell is this fanfic doing in here😅

[@InnovativeJdawg]

@@Georg3e it’s a one-shot manga written by Toriyama a few years ago that retold the story of how Goku was sent to Earth. It introduces his mother, Gine, and it’s what the first 30 minutes of Dragon Ball Super: Broly is from

[@Georg3e]

@InnovativeJdawg interesting thanks for the info! But👀 kind of odd to change the story so late ya know?

[@yukikid2195]

@@Georg3ethat’s what people don’t get about db, you can kind pick you own canon so long as it lines up

[@Georg3e]

@yukikid2195 still very odd to change his own work after decades of it being basically seamless and pretend that's the actual continuity. Kinda like how jk Rowling kept changing her work years after her books are written just too appease a bunch of people she'd anger in a few years after. I don't get it.

[@yukikid2195]

@@Georg3e he did it again. With the ending of Z he changed it. Multiples are fun

[@Beesnorter]

my wenor sore and puffy. don't pin this or else.

[@InnovativeJdawg]

Damn

[@Beesnorter]

@@InnovativeJdawg you thought you won? check again. Thanks for your compliance friend 😄

[@ssgoko88]

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