How Overlord 2 Ruined My Week (Story Explained)

[@SkeletonBeleton]

I feel like in a rewrite the elves could still CLAIM to love fluffy cute nature but it's juxtaposed with them treating absolute face-ripping beasts like lap dogs-- the same attitude as people who name their dogs Princess

[@masterjoda999]

So an entire race of Hagrid

[@WTFisTingispingis]

@@masterjoda999 Hell yeah

[@BobMcBobJr]

Elf: This is Cuddles. Scared Human: The giant porcupine Dragon!? Elf: Yep, Isn't he cute? Who's a good cuddles? Cuddles: Rooooaorr! Kill! Destroy! Elf: Good Cuddles! Get the human!

[@nevermore7285]

I saw the change in corruption as being well representative of the character. In Overlord 1, you had a choice between embracing your role or instead maintaining some of your former goodness as a fallen hero. Which made sense considering who you were. In this, your a bullied kid who was raised entirely by the minions, and even before that came from a harsh culture if Kelda is anything to judge by. Some you instead having the choice of corruption vs destruction makes more sense. Your not really as craft or grey, because the minions that raised you aren’t either. Even the mistress chance made so sense, as underused as it was and as juvenile as it was. His father was a knight with a seemingly strict view on love, and his options were a pair of sisters. The witch boy was raised by minions who definitely don’t have the best view on romance, if Gnarl’s comments are anything to judge by.

[@Sporner100]

@@nevermore7285 for me corruption vs destruction seemed quite detrimental to a game about being Evil. There was just less of a point to it without the ability to choose good. I didn't usually choose good in the first game, mind you. This is purely about choosing evil vs not being able to choose good.

[@OverlordTenjigoku]

Your comment make the most sense out of everyone here and you answered with great reasoning and logic. This incite makes the most sense. 😎👍

[@nevermore7285]

I feel like the 3 mistresses were kind of meant to represent each of the minion types, but cuts and budget stopped that from being fully realized and developed which makes me sad. Kelda represented the browns, being brutal and to the point; Juno being the greens, or at least could have if she really was more tricky and a political snake or an actual witch; Fay corrupted would be the reds, while a ghost would be the blues. I loved Kelda as a kid because she was badass at least on paper, though I like Fay more for being a surprisingly serious character and her exasperation for her people’s antics. Her being willing to corrupt herself for the greater good was really cool to see. Honestly feels like there should have been more to them, like actually side quests and such you did to earn their favor/love instead of just buying knickknacks. This game was my childhood, which is why I’ll always love it, but it definitely felt like there was a lot that was underused or rushed. I did love the twist with Florian as a kid, seeing him just drop the hippy elf act and reveal himself as the emperor was awesome. Another thing that I felt was undersold. And the fat jokes was a lot. Having it just be a mother goddess thing with the elves, which is based off the old fat statues, or the mermaids as a gag, or the Empire to show their hedonism and how the emperor is treating them like cattle, would have been enough. But all of them put together is just… ugh.

[@Luablood]

I liked Juno cuz she was hot.. game isn't that deep, stop digging

[@pinkeye6803]

100% I loved this game series, but overlord 2 felt off from the start. They also released it with the intent of not making the same mistake as with Overlord 1, where they barely released any DLC, or were incredibly late with it. They wanted to not do that with Overlord 2.... which AFAIK, got 1 DLC then they buried the franchise...? It really felt like with the success of Overlord 1, they wanted it to be bigger and better, and just made it too big... and had to make some very unfortunate cuts. The humor seems to be the same way. Just blown too big, where it doesn't fit anymore.

[@cannicuspalentine2264]

Wait a minute, elf woman defending her people, killed and raised into undeath by an evil tin plate tyrant, why am i getting a sense of deja vous? And why do elves always seem to get the short end of the stick in modern fantasy? Warcraft, Dragon Age, DnD, Warhammer both versions, Elder Scrolls, Witcher, Overlord why does everyone seem to hate elves?

[@khanlusa]

Honestly I almost spliced footage from Sylvanas's Warbringers cinematic

[@Keram-io8hv]

This is modern fantasy, you need poor opressed race to feel sorry for Also getting shorter stick in ES? Literally the greatest threat to Empire are high elves, in Warhammer everyone is doomed and DnD? Nothings wrong with them there too

[@samiamtheman7379]

Well in Elder Scrolls, Elves genuinely did a lot of fucked up shit. Can't speak much for Warhammer Fantasy since I'm lacking in the lore department, but in 40k they're the reason at least one of the Chaos gods exists.

[@Keram-io8hv]

@@samiamtheman7379 In Fantasy there bit Tolkien-esque but they are not crybaby pushovers like in Dragon Age

[@SirGentleshark]

From what I've seen, Elves are often used in fantasy in ways similar to Vampires, Fae, etc. which is to say standins for either Bourgeois Elites/Nobility tied to arcane traditions, long lived and uncaring for the lives of those "beneath" them... and, at worse, this is expressed by them being coded as foreign, feminine or gender ambiguous, and queer, which in turn motivates a lot of the popular violence against them. This doesn't mean "elves are always standins for women/femininity/queerness/foreigners/etc." but that's often a writing crutch used by certain writers that fits neatly into popular depictions of post-Tolkien fantasy Elves - at least in Western media If your story calls for a stand-in for either an uncaring foreign sorcerer, you can choose to depict them with the same kind of queercoding that Disney did for it's villains and you can go ahead and make them an Elf too to emphasize their "other-ness" and "fantasy presence"; if you want to have an opressed minority as a analogy for racism but aren't comfortable using real-world racism in your story, slap some elves in there instead to again: emphasize how they're "othered" by comparisson to humans, conventionally attractive (for those "falling in love with the beautiful opressed minority" plots) and both humanoid enough to be empathetic and weird enough to be fantastical - it's ultimately down to lazy handling of tropes by writers that aren't really thinking "that deeply" about it The opposite problem plagues Dwarves, as they're often used as a cheap writer's crutch to represent conformity, traditional masculinity, protestant work ethic, greed and industry, etc. - which, as an autistic obsessed with fantasy Dwarves, I am extremely frustrated by - I mean, bearded women and literal underground societies would have so much potential for weirdness that never seems to get explored...

[@g00dtimepandapanda88]

That glitch is exactly why I didn’t finish the game as a child. Half my fault, I had found an upgrade thing for my minions but it was over a narrow log bridge. The heart and upgrade piece got stuck, neither group of minions could set either one down, so I teleported and uh oh no heart.

[@samiamtheman7379]

When I played this game, the most annoying part was subjugating Everlight during the Elves' rebellion because there are civilians in the area and you can accidentally blow them up. I do hope that this series gets more games since I loved playing Overlord 1 and 2, but given that Fellowship of Evil sucked ass and Codemasters is owned by EA, it's very unlikely...

[@magmadude35]

Not where I thought I would learn the difference between jungle and rainforest but I'll be dammed if it wasn't delivered in a way I'm going to remember forever

[@creampuff7842]

This sounds like that one teenage friend who keeps joking about a fetish being weird and they just think it's funny and you find out later they just have that fetish, just the verrrrrry large women just keep showing up

[@thomasjoychild4962]

It just... keeps coming up, right?

[@samreddig8819]

@@thomasjoychild4962 something is for the devs yeah.

[@sneakymcbadguy5121]

Honestly I feel like the corruption system being replaced makes sense, The 3rd Overlord was a fallen hero who was an adult able to make his own decisions, how he wanted to go about Overlord-ing was his decision, but the 4th Overlord was raised by Gnarl and the Minions, creatures solely dedicated to evil, so obviously he’s gonna be a lot more ruthless than his papa

[@nevermore7285]

If they ever made another one of these games, it’d be cool to mix some of the mechanics like the minions and domination system with Shadow of War’s nemesis system. They’d go pretty well together.

[@ANGGELAful]

Honestly... the fat thing feels more like "the writers barely disguised fetish"

[@Raulgb5]

I mean I'm fat and was fat when I played Overlord 2 and never really bothered me, I even found some of the fat jokes funny, not all mind you, but we need to be able to laugh at ourselves, take ourselves too seriously and we end up unable to enjoy things

[@karrimgyver]

You have the right attitude. And appetite.

[@naheleshiriki5496]

I don't think it's that big of a deal so much as overplayed. I think there should never be red tape when it comes to comedy as that is the main way in which real discussions can start, through laughter. As she stated this is a crutch in their writing as they just keep going back to it.

[@pyorre2441]

@@naheleshiriki5496 There is old rule about jokes that three is maximum amount people will find a joke funny if it is repeated, it seems the makers of this game overdid that by a country mile. I have not played this game myself.

[@WilliamMiller-fc9qv]

Agreed, but I will say they went to far with the jokes as it comes across as lazy and repetitive. It should be more varied.

[@levijonathansix]

As someone who has always been skinny and leads an active lifestyle well into my early 30s I will say I take issue with the rampant obesity problem in the US and I think there is a level of shaming and stigmatism that should exist around it because diabetes and heart disease plagues our society and affects our children when we don’t know how to take care of ourselves let alone our progeny and I firmly think child suffering and death is not cool. HOWEVER, this game’s problem is not that the writers believe being fat is gross, unhealthy, or funny, which is subjectively humorous to some, it’s that it consistently pulls the same punch over and over… and over. I agree with the fact that the joke is played out ad nauseam. Almost every detestable character contrary to the goals of the player is fat or an effeminate man… or both. I’m not even one to virtue signal for the sake of wokeness and I realize that this game is targeted for a young male audience with the idea of playing an Overlord in and of itself being a textbook power fantasy so the misogyny, machismo, and edgy aspects aren’t as disturbing to me. But it’s just plainly not funny when the same joke gets made repeatedly. Even a light jab at someone’s appearance in real life can evoke a chuckle but hearing the same person rail another person for their weight, looks, or demeanor is just malicious and downright mean and most importantly in the context of trying to be funny, very unfunny. At some point you realize the joke is not in jest or light-hearted and instead becomes more of a directed attack. A comedian can get on stage and make a dicey joke about fat people and will usually win the crowd over if the joke was executed right but there is no comedian on this planet who dedicates a whole comedy special to ribbing people with weight problems for their hour-long special because it would lose people very quickly. That’s what this game tries to make work. Ralphie May, Gabriel Iglesias, and Chris Farley among others have created a career out of the absurdity of their weight but that wasn’t the only thing they had to say. Make the joke and move on. This game can’t seem to do that and the comedy suffered for it imo. Beyond that, most successful body image jokes are self-deprecating. None of the appearance jokes in this game are aimed at the player or the Overlord and remain solely focused on pointing and laughing at other people which feels very elementary and lacking in any level of self-awareness. And maybe there’s some meta humor about the main character being a malevolent ruthless jerk who preys on these type of people because he’s heartless but the writing seems far more low brow and lacking in depth than that would imply. Honestly the comedy isn’t great at any point. It ultimately feels mean-spirited to the point of trying to make a statement instead of a joke.

[@neon_pixels]

Aw, as I watched your retelling, I was hoping the twist was that the Emperor was actually the child of the previous game's protagonist, who had gone overboard with Rose's orderly ways.

[@sirkelendor5429]

The player character is the child of the first games protag

[@Kris-wo4pj]

​@@sirkelendor5429they were hoping for a better twist

[@sirkelendor5429]

@@Kris-wo4pj thats a worse twist tf

[@picklefathernurgle2719]

I hope we get a third, actual game out of this. I feel like modern Triumph is still based enough to make something good. Dark Legend and that one MOBA don't exist. Weird you'd even mention them.

[@madwolf7033]

Imma go out on a limb here and say: This game was deliberately cringe to distant itself from epic tales. And saturated distasteful humour reminds you, the player, that your side is not the good guys

[@RVGmetallicasaw]

While I agree the game focused too much on fat people for its jokes… being mean-spirited is the entire franchises vibe. Everything comes back to being cruel and mean either for no real reason beyond satisfying the bully or megalomaniac in the player or because it benefits you, often both. It shouldn’t focus so much on fat people, and should strike at the short people, as well as anybody and everybody else, especially when it would be hypocritical. Because in this franchise, cruelty = funny.

[@justinbell2166]

This game series would be wild if the creators of south park got in on it

[@helltaker6865]

I'm not saying you want another Sylvanas, but the profile pic speaks for itself

[@MantraHerbInchSin]

I need more good games with harems damnit!

[@Saltboi1823]

I feel like they could also rewrite Juno to actually be a witch and a fiercely independent woman who does not go with, but viciously opposes other men attempting to sexualize her, and is enamored by the overlord due to him being quiet and not judging her for being into the occult. Fay too, could stay as a mistress, but instead of being an enemy who suddenly becomes an ally, she is on your side from the start, but warns you to stay out of the sanctuary, and when you do not listen, she banishes you from the sanctuary and warns you that nothing is for you there, but in the wastes, she finally decides that times are desperate enough and lets you drain her, becoming evil but not a mistress just yet, then you can do quests for her to help defend the Sanctuaries (Albeit sanctuaries that are now changed by their ruler's corruption), and her joining you as a Mistress is only obtainable after she agrees to join you at the end of that questline.

[@michaelscotthawthorn7871]

I really want a more modern version of this .. with better graphics and graphic wenches ..

[@nicktheprickgaming8586]

Ikil

[@williamwinsemann]

I’m currently working on a few songs about OverLord: Raising Hell, and I just hope that one day she tries to make a review of OverLord: Dark Legend

[@corbin_4738]

While I am glad that are continuing to put out content, I cannot stress enough (nor often enough) how great your reidealizing and retelling of stories was great. You've a knack and voice for the telling of stories. I do hope you get back to that some day.

[@khanlusa]

Well, not in video form, but I am working on putting my ideas on AO3 so they are at least Out There

[@DBArtsCreators]

Cool video & ideas. The only criticism I have for your proposed changes is that Overlord is meant to be a mean-spirited game where you play as the bad guy (with 'how bad' being somewhat up to the player) and nearly everything is a stereotyped mockery of what people like about medieval fantasy. I'd say the issue with Overlord 2 isn't the fat jokes & sexism - it's that there's not enough of any other mean-spirited stuff unrelated to those things to balance it out.

[@bruuuuuuuuhhhh]

I mean, you do club baby seals to death as a tutorial.

[@DBArtsCreators]

@@bruuuuuuuuhhhh Now the next question: if we had cannons, would our practice ammo be minions, orphans, more baby seals, or halflings?

[@idanilsson3464]

The sexism is never put forth as something evil. Its there for the player, its not part of the lore or the worldbuilding.

[@bruuuuuuuuhhhh]

@@DBArtsCreators which one would sound the funniest when fired at a high velocity

[@DBArtsCreators]

@@bruuuuuuuuhhhh I think it's a tie between the baby seals & orphans. Orphans bring high-pitched screaming, but the seals will sound the funniest when they explode on impact.

[@wyattbranham4919]

I hope they make a real sequel, and double down on all the stuff. More off color jokes, more objectification, and more making fun of hippies, and definitely more mistresses who only want your coin and status. With one mistress who genuinely cares about the character, cause that's tradition at this point.

[@AnarchoCatBoyEthan]

this video will be fun because no matter what is in it the intro talking about Obscure 2 already made me go back and watch your Obscure 1 and 2 videos and then also realized you had a video about Overlord one so this video basically gave me 3 more to watch, lol. Great stuff!

[@masterjoda999]

Yes, thank you, finally someone else who recognizes the psychopathy and horror of chimpanzees

[@redsnake188]

God, I love the overlord games. These games are near the near perfect only issues I have some minor gameplay issues, and it's just not long enough. The humor is 10/10 I love that this game embraces its theme and never feels like its trying to hold back or expand appeal to an audience that wouldn't enjoy it. It knows what it is. It knows theres audience, and it embraces those fans. I hope we get another even its just one more some day

[@prettycoolguy3206]

Tbh I like game harems in theory. I mean yes, let me romance all the characters lets go. But the practical reality of that is that less time gets dedicated to fleshing out the individual characters. Each additional character means more time & resources that could be spent developing other aspects of the game. So yeah, I like them... in theory :(

[@VVabsa]

I mean, being unapologetic evil and being a problematic (over)cringelord kinda goes hand in hand.

[@Neoprenesiren]

Overlord is based and minionpilled, the only thing that could have made it better is if you played as a snu snu hip crushing fem overlord and conquered the lands while amassing husbandos.

[@malcolm4737]

Gigabased take, hope Triumph Studios would stop messing around and finally make a sequel with male/fem Overlords and flying mounts for your Blue ones.

[@lucaballarati9694]

If you really wanted to be lazy and change as little as possible, Fey's character could still be saved by later revealing that she actually *wanted* to side with you because you were taking the fight to the Empire and that the whole "evil energy" thing was just an excuse. But yeah she shouldn't be with you if you *kill* her. Aside fr the grossness, what's the point of giving the player choices if they have no consequence? People should die when they are killed.

[@WaterLockser]

While everyone is free to have their opinions on things I'll be honest. Trying to compare and hold a game made 15yrs ago to the current day standards and societal norms just honestly feels pointless. Its like the folks who watched the classic Disney films and got offended by the things in them because they don't meet that persons standards based on the current day. They then demand scenes be changed or removed altogether. Instead of trying to change them etc instead use it positively to show how far society has evolved since then.

[@Cruddy129]

i agree we should stop pretending that the standards of games and movies are the same 10+ years ago

[@lorenzskyfall7046]

"how to fix the game, simple make a different game" what an introspective

[@khanlusa]

You're welcome to suggest your own fix ✨✨

[@redsnake188]

​@@khanlusa easy dont change a thing go play something else, litterally anything else that YOU enjoy, and give the fans overlord 3

[@Slidescum]

@@redsnake188 my thoughts exactly

[@Jodariel.]

​@@redsnake188imagine being mad at someone that made their whole channel about giving their opinion and their version of how the game would've been better. Don't like the opinion? Go to a channel YOU like that has a similar opinion as yours. Why you mad? 😂😂😂

[@thomasjoychild4962]

Today I have learned the difference between jungle and rainforest. Educational as well as entertaining criticism!

[@jankeijzer8975]

Okay the timing off the Editing of the hell off a wobble got me good. Damn i should not laugh but the timing was so good that i sprayed water out of my nose. You have my sub for that. Genius editing. Praise you ooh overlord of laughs.

[@bernardus3289]

My GOD playing this game and the first one was a blast this week BUT the controls feels buggy sometimes on pc. Prob just an old game struggling to keep up but meh. I really liked both games and still hoping for the 3rd game. Fellowship of evilness does not count as a continuation of this series or as a game. Also as a fat guy I got a chuckle or two at all the fat jokes

[@kleinwolf35]

I already told you, I'm in. You don't have to sell it, you know?

[@MageScience]

so like, i get the bad stuff, i understand the bad stuff, but like i also feel that the game, in its base form is designed to be played with the mindset of being evil, your not supposed to care for others, your not supposed to care about the women your not supposed to give two damns about anything, you kill baby seals for gods sake, and while I get it yknow objectifying women is wrong, making horrendous tropes such as the "goth" or "men + boobs" and "perfect" girl is shallow and unfunny, these games were made like in 2009. also, keep in mind that most of the bad shit that's said in the game is by the minions, who are...unintelligent creatures who don't know any better and speak without filtration, so keep that in mind as well. finally I like to choose to believe that our perception as the player is warped to see things in a different light, such as seeing romans as fat pigs, seeing the elves as hippy tree huggers, etc etc, of course this doesn't excuse the fat shaming, but again, the whole "evil" thing.

[@Mikito456]

I have not seen or thought of this game in like 14 years. I remember playing this in early high school, and I liked the mechanics. The addition of minion mounts, and new pieces of armor, was interesting. I also thought the first game was vastly superior in terms of story, and plot. The first one perfectly subverted the expectation of a noble hero saving a fantasy world. This sequel was a little a wacky and over the top, I always like seeing Roman characters, and the changes to gameplay was fun, the story just didn't hit the same. I very much agree with all your suggested tweaks, except for Juno. I think keeping Juno as an optional second mistress is reminiscent of your character in the first game. I love the idea of Kelda fighting in combat alongside you, this your respect and acknowledgment being the thing that brings you closer together. Like you said, she was the only person to accept you as a child, and should be the romantic interest. However Juno should remain as a sort of temptation for evil. She is petty, vain, greedy, but also they should have made her cruel and chaotic. Do you give your entire your base instinct to destroy, pillage and horde everything, even if it means betraying Kelda & Rose? In short I like the changes to Kelda, but I think leaving Juno as an optional, "chaotic wife" would have been fine as well. Love the idea of Fey becoming a villain for the next game, either as a Dark Queen or Banshee Overlord.

[@bobburba4144]

I have no idea how I got here from where I was. Algorithm must like you.

[@orribirgisson421]

A few points on the how to make it better section. Yes the fat jokes are overdone but a few of them do have a place like the empire being fat, lazy and undiciplined outside of the military and the right hand man makes sense as the emperor (not sure if I should refer to him as Solarius or Florian) has no interest in building a lasting civilization of humans and likely intended for it to fall apart after his goal was reached by either destroying it himself or leaving it to crumble to the corruption, greed and laziness he not only allowed but nurtured (that is my interpretation at least might be looking to deep into a silly game tho). The elf priestess being on the thicker side makes sense if you look at he statue in the first game or the multiple ones in this one but this is way to far. The faires were kinda pointlessly fat outside of giving Quaver an exuse to make a bee joke and establishing that minions like big bazoongas and don't really care beyond that but I did chuckle at Gnarl voicing one (same voice actor apparently voices Florian/Solarius/the emperor too) so I'm all for a redesign tho the flower idea might clash with the cartoonish and slightly off putting style of the game. Love the mermaid idea but don't think eldritch deep sea monster with a hint of body horror would mesh with this game in particular what with the cartoonish style. counterpoint about Fey (btw she is in fact not an elf but a different and apparantly unique fairy), keep the corruption mistress option specifically because of that yikes evil factor, make the banshee hate and haunt you and not be a mistress, but make a third option if you don't enslave or destroy the towns where she looses most of her powers but is uncorrupted so she becomes the counter voice to Gnarl and his evil for evils sake advice. Juno needed to be fleshed out more (or at all) and there are hints in game that there might have been more too her at one point in development, if we look at her decorations and favored minion tipe there are two distinct themes, opulence and grandeur in lions, eagles and gold vs venomous and treacherous in snakes, spiders and dark silver, so I think there is a lot of unused potential in Juno as a backstabbing politician and/or assassin that may or may not betray you, even better if you can't be sure by making her be the flirtiest of the mistress options but all the flirting sounds vaguely threatening. Kelda fighting alongside you in some missions would be awesome but I think the saving the overlord plotline is a bit much as the whole point of the game is to be a near unstoppeble overlord with a small army following you everywhere. On the topic of the mistresses specifically the decorations they bring should be aesthetic only but unlocking some of them could tied to side quests for each individual mistress, hunting with Kelda to get fur and trophies for her decorations, extort, robbing or killing nobles with/for Juno to get the fancy gold ones for her and finaly helping/exterminating magical creatures for Fey depending on which version of her you have and get a clean or tattered decor for it. Meet in the middle on the elves? someone in the comments mentioned elves as a bunch of Hagrids with "misunderstood" dangerous creatures and I lake that idea but also have a sub faction of elves headed by Florian acting like the hippie flower children they do currently as he is trying to subvert the elves to make them less of a threat to his plans. as for Florian himself the only change I think he needs is a more distinct change in how he talks after revealing himself to drive home that the obnoxious hippie flower child was all an act. as for my own suggestions for improvements: a low corrption/order route, instead of just destroy or enslave you can rule (see uncorrupted Fey idea). more to do with the towns/town inteface, as it is it's just pay to take over, I would like to have just a bit control over the towns I supposedly conquered like fixing the damn bridge in nordberg, specializing/upgrading the towns towards something like keeping the tourism going in everlight for more gold every time you visit.

[@TheRauzKindred]

In regard to the story, I think a friend of mine I streamed this game for said it best when I hit the seal/sea mines moment, "WHAT IS THIS? INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS, THE GAME??", I enjoyed her reaction so much it's a core memory at this point. Humor wise? Yeah, parts of it aged like milk, the ham fisted fat jokes primarily, but myself and my friends who I've shared this game with mostly laugh at it for its insane level of absurdity and audacity. I would like to see a new overlord game, probably with better writers. Because, a fantasy parody game where you play the "bad guy" is just something I've not seen a lot of, and I would love to have more. Even my GF found this title hilarious, I think the only thing that took the edge off of the fat jokes for us, at least, was the minions being attracted to the heavier characters. Even if it was played as a really bad joke, my friends and I decided to take it as "hey the little gremlin monsters like big ladies, neat". As for game mechanics I'm just sad Blues didn't get a mount. I think what would have been a good addition for blues possibly, giant frogs. It could give them a combat stance with the ability to tank and dish out some damage, albeit not being very fast. They'd become an excellent "wall" to protect you or even guard areas with close to mid-range combat via the tongue and jump stomp attack potentially stunning heavier opponents who normally toss your little monsters like salads. I remember giant frogs in the first game being a damn well nightmare to deal with being unmovable and unstunnable tanks, and getting to dish out that pain and suffering back at the opponents would have been a bit cathartic. For the utility side, it could have allowed them to retrieve minions with the toads' tongues to rescue them from a distance, or even rescue more than one at a time because of the frog's mouth being so large. Still loved this title's mechanics, as it had a lot of gameplay mechanics that were genuinely improved upon from the first.

[@Boingodadoingo]

that glitch ruined my first playthrough as a child i didnt realize it was a universal and consistent problem lmao

[@AwayWithYouVileBeggar]

This video reminded me of this one RPGMaker "lewd" game I played some time ago called "Conquest" like 10-11 years ago. The reason it reminded me of it is because the premise is pretty much the same but the Overlord isn't that cartooney and, besides the fact that he makes sense in his dark mentality, he actually tries to woo the heroines that oppose him. To spoil the beginning and give an idea of the game: The Overlord in that game is a Tyrant but if you choose to make the heroines your maidens you can only do that by being a benevolent Tyrant. In that route the Overlord becomes a protector since the people he conquered are "his" and nobody threatens what is his. You (the Overlord) and your Orcs start your conquest with a small village that's under the protection of a mercenary group led by the first heroine. You obviously conquer the village and plunder the place. The main mechanic and the thing that strengthens your orcs is the women you take as plunder. Here you can choose to "keep" the women to yourself or allow your orcs to have some fun. The same mechanic applies to the heroines but if you choose not to claim the heroines for yourself that is the end for that path (which locks you out of future decisions). Choosing the cannon route by claiming the heroines as your maidens opens up the "romance" path with them where you have to make them understand your pov by showing them that there isn't that much difference between you and the rulers of the land. The Mercenary Maiden for example will follow you only if you bring her back to the village and show her that you actually respected her fallen comrades by offering them a proper burial. She also sees that you did respect your end of the bargain and the village is intact with people going around minding their own business. My favorite is the elven maiden who is comatose because of you and the only way to save her makes her mad at you. The Overlord saves her and to show her that he's serious about her being his maiden he puts his life at stake and only like that wins her heart. This is what happens for all of the heroines. There are 2 that are more villainous so they don't need much to accept you as their lord but for the rest you have to put some work. This culminates with the last heroine (the most op one) that can only be recruited if the rest of the maidens are on your side (aka loyal). With their help you find out how to recruit the last maiden and finally conquer and unify the land under your rule. It is a damn shame that the project got dropped since there are no images for the lewd scenes and one segment at the end is unfinished (you play it but it's rushed). Thankfully the story is complete so you can play the entire thing but the ending pointed towards a sequel that will never materialize. This is one of those games that was created back when lewd games were in their infancy and people would post them on flash forums and such. Nowadays you can find plenty of good stories (and plenty of trash) thanks to subscription services that allow people to have their passion project and get paid for it.

[@An_Ian]

Loved this game personally. Partly becuse I enjoy the catharsis of being an evil dick partly becuse I found the humor enjoyable mostly becuse Im a pikmin fan and the gameplay is just janky pikmin with a walmart LOTR knock off paintjob

[@Deathmageddon]

Everything you complained about makes the game sound awesome tbh

[@khanlusa]

That's the beauty of opinions, if this made you want to play the game then be free and do that, I hope you have fun ✨✨

[@josephwebster2319]

aren't you so cool and edgy, better be careful with that edge or you might end up cutting yourself on it

[@mercidicAGES]

I agree, tho not because of the humor. it's a cartoonishly evil game in a cartoonish setting, so a lot of the flat jokes and writing seem kind of fitting for a game about being cartoonishly evil. You aren't the good guy, so I don't particularly find issues with the way they treat the characters in the game. It's not a serious game with a serious take on morality. It's just surface level bad guy doin' bad things. It'd be interesting to see a more adult and realistic approach, tho.

[@svenneumann2816]

​@@josephwebster2319TIL having a sense of humor is "trying to be cool and edgy"

[@josephwebster2319]

@@svenneumann2816 except this isn't "having a sense of humor" lil bud, I know it's hard to wrap your mind around but jokes have to be funny to be you know jokes

[@zinc2zinc2]

always love seeing overlord content

[@-zerxvil-5208]

33:30 Really? In a game named Overlord? 😂

[@Kris-wo4pj]

If it was the actually overload making these jokes id get it. But its not theyre making these jokes about themselves at this point. I think the devs saw how fable did its humor said yeah i can do that" then didnt actually do that.

[@yoshinikoori9855]

>Evil Overlord >Don’t insult fatties Apparently, evil *should have* standards or “be nice or respectful”?

[@zuttoaragi8349]

@@yoshinikoori9855 That's always driven me nuts. People complain about EVIL characters doing EVIL things. Like, duh, HE/SHE/IT/THEY/XIR/POUNDSIGN is EVIL!

[@zuttoaragi8349]

@hyponautical Exactly.

[@Cleverman27]

Played it as a kid, found it entertaining. Played it when I was older, still found it entertaining. I approach it from the perspective that it’s a ridiculous story and not to be taken seriously in any manner. Just go be an unapologetic evil overlord and have fun with it.

[@Coffee_nightowl]

This is exactly the kind of game my brother would love. He's 28. I played an Overlord game for the Wii as a kid, I remember it was short but fun. And no gross objectification of mistresses because the game completely opted out from you having mistresses. My childhood friend mentioned this game in passing, but I think it was a good idea that we didn't play it. Shesus.

[@sleepy7671]

I feel as if the series was aiming to be comically evil and not to be taken seriously in the slightest. Just a funny (albeit raunchy) bad guy doing bad guy things and genuinely not caring about it afterwards. It is understandable how he’d treat anyone or anything outside his rule that serves no personal gain as either inferior or objects of ridicule with the barrage of jokes, insults and general disgust. Granted, the fat centered insults can get redundant, the best option would be for more substance and diversity in the insults

[@cooltrainervaultboy-39]

To be honest, the only issue I had with this game was the magic system. Mechanically it just never worked right, so I just stopped using it altogether. Had it been more like the first game's, I think it would have worked a lot better. As for the mistresses, Kelda is OTP and best girl.

[@ZAllen-bt6kb]

I'm still waiting on a sequel with all the pros n cons of early 2000s humor n jank

[@Raulgb5]

36:05 Yo I was agreeing with you on the other things until then Kelda part, making the fairy queen the next game's antagonist actually sounds awesome, and honestly I don't even remember the name of the 2nd mistress she was way too boring,and having Kelda join the fight could be a cool scene, but the whole cheap romance novel part of Kelda saving the injured overlord and him speaking for the first time just to thank her is WAY too cringe, it honestly sounds like bad fanficion

[@zanekorvek8643]

Overlord And Overlord 2 are classic games need a remaster keep all of the original writing its perfect!

[@danielsaviopereiradasilva709]

OMG your videos are amazing, I would love to discover your channel earlier, congrats on the quality.

[@ZanTheFox]

28:25 In the real world, the saying "Happy wife, happy life" is extremely common for a reason. The man traditionally provides, but the woman is the one who has control of the household. Coming home to someone who is mad because you forgot the milk or didn't do an errand or forgot something does indeed suck. Buying your spouse an apology gift to make it up to them (I prefer glass sculptures because they are more elegant) is also pretty common. 34:00 Yes, historical Rome did not have that many fat people in it. Yes, they make a good exemplary character flaw about self control and decadence. The game is a crass comedy so they are turning that knob to 11

[@MacTwist44]

I recall playing the game and loving it a lot when I was younger, it's been many years since I played it (And my English has improved immensely in that time, a lot of the jokes and comments flew over my head) and I was expecting to not like this video when you brought up the fat joke's at first. "Oh it's just a couple of times, you're evil! Of course you're gonna be cruel to people". but as the video went on and on, I noticed you we're totally right. The game does target fat people specifically quite often, and always as if being fat was the worst thing about these people who owned slaves and thought nothing of killing people for amusement. I still cherish the game for getting me into villainous protagonist games but I see it's flaws much better now after watching this video, thank you. It was a really enjoyable video and I can't wait to watch more from you.

[@RedRam_Menhtrol]

It just recently hit me how perfect the Gremlins 2 theme fits with this game. 😆

[@matthewdemarey4762]

Comedy is definitely subjective and that's okay. I think where the problem lies here is the presentation of the game's premise rather than the premise itself. There's nothing wrong with enjoying the game, and I don't think it necessarily means you're an asshole, but that's the only part I really disagree with. Ultimately I'd fall short on calling it problematic, just annoying at times. Like you said, the game doesn't take itself seriously, and neither should we spend all that much time taking its humor seriously. Great video, and congrats on a new sub. lol

[@Mastercheap]

5:16 you forgot the not at all magic rotating starff

[@casthedemon]

28:22 i mean....isnt this true? Just seems like good life advice from the minions to me.

[@89BlackGatomon]

Great video, thanks for your efforts.

[@darksiders18]

i remember player overlord 1 when it came out in 2006 or 7. When i got my xbox 360 i bought overlord 2 and i loved it. I bet the game multiple times. Your being way too literal about this game.

[@chaopainter4595]

WAIT THERE'S A OVERLORD 2 REVIEW TIME TO REDO A REPLY THREAD!!

[@chaopainter4595]

My conclusion is overlord raising hell is the best

[@vladpw123]

I think it could work to leave Fey as a mistress or potential ally. If we rewrite elfs as people who revere nature and exist outside of good and evil, then we can assume that Fey will also has no quarrel with Overlord. Since he is a part of this world natural order. In general i think idea of having 3 mistresses could be interesting and unique if each of them are given more agency. I think Juno may be rewritten to have the same idea but change an execution. Like she is a schemer and socialite who sentenced to death after one of her powergrabs gone bad. Then it we can setup as 3 of them disliking each other for personal reasons. Kelda is disliked because she is brutish and kinda barbaric. Juno is seen as useless rich girl and Fey as a stuck up with superiority complex. Through game they help Overlord each in her different way and start to respect each other. Juno has a lot of expirience in imperial politics and court games for example. Kelda at first sees it as nonsense but later sees it as a battlefield of its own. Or Juno who has enherit distrust for magic due to her imperial upbringing, and antogonistic to Fae because of this. But then forms a bond with Fae after she saves her. We can even tie game endings to them. With best ending achievable only if overlord connects finds common ground with each of them.

[@sirkelendor5429]

I think the main problem with this game is its not apparently obvious that the game is supposed to be a parody. Which i didnt even realize was a problem till this video, because it was always obvious to me

[@Giddyshoes]

Eh, I'd not get too wrapped up in what kind of jokes or representation is happening in games like this, which you've said before do not take themselves seriously, it's the same way comedians let loose. You'll find it's mostly some Americans or Canadians who get sensitive about joke content nowadays, i hear France is getting crazy too, but the rest of us are here for any joke. Agreed though, they hung onto the same jokes a bit much, and this entry was hella bugged to try and enjoy it all. You had to hope it'd hold up mid-playthrough 😂

[@craigbolton2231]

Someone was working through their fat kink when they made this game. Not a mummy kink, this was a maw kink. I dont mind low hanging jokes, some were funny some were mean but thats kinda the point in an evil game. But jesus i didnt notice the mother goddess statue in the last ones dlc. The abolute absurdity of it was the worst kind of funny. Im all for people creating art however they want but how the hell did that ever get past the censors. How did that even get past their own QA team. Id understand some edgy indy developer doing that, but a mainstream developer? Id rather they not but whatever floats their boat, which is apparently fat women for that one dev in their office

[@mrinanis]

just realized that they stopped showing how bad obesity is on games and now 2 out of 5 adults and 1 out of 5 children's are obese and that has serious medical consequences...

[@DaroriDerEinzige]

... I mean, I don't get why she's upset about cheap jokes if the whole game was meant to be "kinda making fun of itself and about fantasy clichés". Like she's like "OMFG YOU MADE FUN ABOUT ELVES!!! THATS SOOO SEXIST AND CONSERVATIVE!". o.o"

[@zuttoaragi8349]

@@DaroriDerEinzige It's not the elves being made fun of that bothers her jellyrolls, it's the fact they're making fun of hippies and climate activists, who I'm sure she agrees with on a great many things.

[@benjaminseelking9483]

As an avid Fan of the Harem Genre, i must speak out against the reduction of Female Companions, even if i agree that they should be handled in a different Way. For Starters, the unlocking of the "Adult Fun Time" scenes should not come through buying Stuff, but via Minigames which are the "Time spent together" signaliser, where Witchboy can get to know each of his Mistresses. Speaking of the Mistresses, to make the Harem work, 2 of them require rewriting. Somewhat extensivly. Kelda the least, mostly just making her non-hostile to the other 2. Juno could be shown with a metaphorical "Mask", that being her canon Personality, which falls apart over her Time once she is brought to the Nether and shown genuine Care and affection by Witchboy. Maybe writing her Arrivalscene where she, after seeing Kelda, makes a Remark about another powerhungry Man collecting Women, which Kelda can counter with something along the Lines of, "he has yet to enter my Chambers uninvited" putting Juno more at ease. Fay requires the most work, but there are Ways. Firstly, she is not drained to fuel the Towerheart, and neither does Witchboys corrupt her. Secondly, the Elfs are now all female, because the males all died, either because of the exploded Towerheart, or as an aftereffect of living in the cursed Forest for extended Time. Which drove Fay´s Mother into an early retirement, forcing the Crown onto Fay, making her a very young Queen, who was also surrounded by only Women for quite a few Years. So once Witchboy comes along, all tall, powerfull and masculine, she rejects him as something foreign, unknown and dangerous, but he also intrigues her. Later, when the Towerheart has taken all the Magic of the Shrines as well as hers, and appears to be at most a Quarter full, she does offer her Life to fill it, but Witchboy decides on a different approach. He casually charges her with one Hand (which again does NOT corrupt her) making her feel stronger then ever before, while just as casually filling the Towerheart up to 100%. This Display of Power, (which you as someone truly intelligent knows to be one of the very few true Aphrodisiacs) together with the (pleasurable) Sensation of Male Energy entering her Body and mixing with her own, Female Energies, should serve as a superior explanation/justification for Fay to, as you put it, "want to jump Witchboys Bones." Forming these 3 into a Harem however, i feel should fall to Rose, who as Witchboys Mother naturally would hold some Authority in his Life, in particular since i would make Wb recognise her in her first Visit in the Nether, and makes her stay instead of leaving him again. That would give her something to do, namely forging them all into a Family that can and will support her Child in his Conquest, and eachother in Life. Maybe even getting a dirty ambigoues Implication that Aunty Velvet might "join" the Houshold

[@lordhorus01]

I didn't even get that far into the game I got just passed the dryads, got stuck, fell back down an elevator that I'd just gone up, only to discover a progress breaking bug in the form of not being able to get the elevator back. Between replaying 20 mins or playing something better, I picked better.

[@jollyroger195]

I wish this game would come back. I miss being an Overlord. I also miss all the dumb humor, it still gets a small chuckle out of me.

[@TheThirtyFourth]

Maybe it's my nostalgia blinding me(and the fact that this game gave me several kinks I would learn about only 10 years after playing it for the first time, corruption being the biggest one), but I find most of your complaints unfounded. Your biggest mistake(IMO) is looking at this 15 year old game with a modern eye. I don't mean it as an insult, I just think that you're missing a point of who this game was made for and what ideas were in there. First game was a surface level parody of Tolkien world, pretty much, a humorous perversion even, where they took the worst parts/stereotypes about every race, turned them up to 11 and had fun with it. Overlord 2 does the same thing, with Romans(not even real Romans, they are caricatures from Asterix and Obelix, pretty much) , Elves(of course they are cartoonish hippies with a bit of LGBT paint, that's how mass media viewed nature loving fantasy creatures at the time) , Fairies etc. They took the most basic negative stereotypes, cranked them up, threw a humorous filter and got this surface level parody. That's why they aren't insulting empire for any evil they did(+you're playing as the most evilest evil to ever evil, duh), and only for them being fat fatty fat fats. It's the easiest thing to point out, a surface level insult, cause the game is not even tryin to be deep deliberately. Is it distasteful? Yes. Was it meant this way? Yes. Do you have to enjoy it? No, but applying modern society standards to this game is silly. It's a product of its' era. Oh, and about treatment of women: This game is a power fantasy for DA BOIZ, and what DA BOIZ usually think about relationship with the girls? Buy stupid things, make them happy through it, somehow, and then you'll get to shake the tower at night. That's also the reason why you have an option to go for harem route, cause DA BOIZ love having multiple women fall over them. Yeah, it's sexist, catering to male fantasy specifically and a game like this would never fly today, unless it's some tasteless 18+ steam junk, but at the time, making games specifically for DA BOIZ was seen as the winning strategy, since gaming was way more male dominated back then.

[@idanilsson3464]

The idea that these things werent critizied 15 years ago just show how little you know about gaming history. Games where critizied for it then and is now. Theres nothing new or modern about it.

[@TheThirtyFourth]

Maybe you're right about that, i haven't seen every review ever of Overlord 2. But the fact that the game got a mostly positive reception upon release and became a cult classic, in my eyes, does inmplicate that people back then weren't as offended by the content, since, like i said, it wasn't a statement on anything, just a surface level satire, where you can be evil for the sake of being evil. And yes, the fact that you're not the hero in the slightest also makes complaints about morals of charaters misplaced, cause you're not supposed to emulate the behavior you see in game.

[@codyhamilton7682]

23:09 this happened to me in the first game I lost a thingamajig required to get to the next stage and it was no longer on the map

[@Gambette69]

The meta commentary is stated as though this series isn’t an incel power trip… that’s the point of the game is it not? Dude’s an outcast, dork-fuel, rolling with imaginary creatures uglier and more outcastie, and smaller, who leans into it all by being evil, and grows up to be tall dark and mysterious…. Of course the women are undesirables except for the ones he gets to be with him with no effort… Why even bring it up? Lol

[@Nerdnumberone]

It might be interesting to have the "mistresses" act as advisors or proxies to serve some useful role. The Overlord can't be everywhere at once, so having your badass tomboy childhood friend mop up the last bits of resistance with a handful of minions could be good. A charsmatic socialite might serve as a spy in high society. A cunning leader could oversee logistics and other projects. And so on. Granted, these roles wouldn't need to be filled by conventially attractive women, but there is a significant portion of the general gaming audience (myself included) who like seeing attractive female characters. I wouldn't make them all automatically mistresses. You don't need to screw everybody you work or cohabitate with. If they insist on the queen being a romance option, she could join as an advisor or liason as part of your alliance of mutual interest. She *might* warm up to you IF your actions serve the interests of her people AND you prove to be an admirable person.

[@andrewamell4965]

Brohter might i sugeest toning down the censorship bleep in the volume mixer, even when the volume is turned down to 50 its irritatingly painful in volume

[@EnordAreven]

Smartly done and well reviewed

[@DanjasLP]

Whew, reading that title I thought that you meant the anime Overlord and its second season for a moment.

[@Eyrenni]

I could see a third game with Queen Fay as the PC. We drain her in Overlord 2, which corrupts her. Check transformation into evil. She's now drained of power and needs to power up throughout the game. Check for power progression. And if we want to; check for swapping out the gender of the PC to get something new going. We could even have a RIVAL in the form of a kid that Witch-boy got with his mistress (regardless of what gender they are). Or sibling duo for rivals if we should tick both human mistresses. Otherwise just twins or normal siblings (like Rose and Velvet) as rivals. Rival could remain your rival and we end that in a duel or you can become a power couple that destroy everything.

[@roznai]

Lmfao im long dorito shape 🤣

[@Skytalez]

Ok, hear me out What if we keep Fey(Fae? I have no idea how to spell her name correctly) and Juno as mistresses but we change them. Let's make Juno a schemer and social climber who are more conventionaly attractive than wifes of empire moneybags because she was born into empire underclass. And what if make elves more ponient critique of envirometalists by showing that they would rather have a moral high ground then achieve results. Also let's not brainwash Fey into being our mistress but that she did by choice as a bargain with the Overlord so he would do something benefitial for elves. That way we can make so that every mistress is avatar of diferent flavor of evil. Kelda is the ravaging evil that prefer using brutality and fight through obstacles, Juno is scheming evil that prefer deception and subterfuge to achieve her goals, and Fey is dogmatic evil that prefers subjugation and want you to build totalitarian society for your minions and then use them to solve problems. Then you can have to dance a horizontal tango with the one whose approach apeal to you most.

[@Sporner100]

I honestly thought a lot of the fat stuff made sense in universe. The followers of the mother goddess sharing a different beauty standard than the empire wasn't a bad idea and the wealthy fat tourists going on vacation there kind of made sense. Both were cartoonishly exaggerated, but so is the entire game compared to its predecessor. The minions were malicious, but they're supposed to be evil incarnate. Honestly you telling a game about being Evil "Don't be mean" got a small laugh out of me. There only being one woman who isn't fat or living in the slums in the empire is probably just the dev team being lazy, as the whole game had an uncomfortable amount of npcs just copy-pasted over and over again. Now there were two instances where the use of fat people really was unnecessary: first, the women with the unfaithful husbands didn't need to be overweight. In fact it might have been great to have 2-3 completely different ones there. The other was the overweight slaves. Was there an explanation how they managed to gain so much weight while being slaves?

[@masspayne]

While i did enjoy the video since it was about a semi obscure game i used to play just like the game kept going on and on about fat people you kept going on and on about fat people jokes and just like the game it got tiring real fast. The really anyoing part was you trying to apply modern day values to a 2009 game lol

[@milky2872]

Not only that but like... you're playing as an evil character. When kelda makes a joke about the governor's fat, he's also a colonizing slaver. Are we trying to defend that? I mean you club baby seals to death but the fat jokes are too far?

[@grumpysphinx4911]

2009 IS modern day lol, it's not ancient history. People talked about the same issues at that time, criticizing fatphobia, sexism, racism, etc

[@masterofthelag8414]

@@grumpysphinx4911 I mean... that's a decade and a half ago, at this point. It's not that long ago in the grand scheme of things but it's a long time and it's absolutely valid to argue that tastes and culture has changed quite significantly since then.

[@deadwolf2978]

Homestly, your short sight analysis is boring. You mention that game doesn't take itself seriously, but then proceed to judge every part if it as if it a statement. No, games premise is simple: The Good (as envisioned by some with radical ideas ) has won, and as it has turned people into monsters. You just need to clean up and set things in balance. But it also takes a laugh about idea of relationships between fairly tale Prince and Princess. It makes it cynical and fun. You keep forgetting that your morals do not apply to Evil. 😅

[@Slidescum]

She was soooo borrring

[@Unknownplayer_0117]

I want to see you do a story recap of the wii game and overlord 3

[@andrewgrasham4604]

When I saw you were going to cover this game my first thought was "oh there's going to be opinions about the girls!!"

[@Dongcon-zg9dt]

I dont get it. You're playing a villain in a grim dark fantasy, but it can't have mediocre humor. Where exactly do we draw the line for evil play throughs?

[@khanlusa]

idk avoid telling the same joke 20 times ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@marcovandermerwe3026]

I think I didn't take the fat jokes or failure to represent women favourably very seriously. I mean you play a cartoonishly evil murderous slaver. I do think the first game had better writing though. Also you're writing tips are good but kind of too good for the game. It's like saying an Adam Sandler movie would be better with some Shakespeare.

[@habichnicht8845]

35:27 why dont make her get in the bed szene accidentally merge with the overlord? haveing a half merged banshee pokeing out of the overlord untill u find a way to savely separate again could look epic and would help to visualise that corruptiv nature of the overlords interaction with her even more and would show that u do anything for your power/interests also i think that would fit in the games style more smoothly than makeing her yet another kerrigen wish ripoff

[@kaidynj2535]

So I played this game to completion as well and while I think most of your points are valid. I feel like your evaluation of their use of "fat jokes or degradation" slightly off, while they took it too far I feel like making fun of fat people was not the intention, 34:17 you mention that in ancient Roman times it wasn't accepted to be be wealthy and fat, but it wasn't intended as an allalagy for then. It was an analogy for things that were happening at the time of the game being published and they used the lense evil characters to see that so it was exaggerated (still too far) and in an evil light. I understand what your going for you i just feel that you missed the intention behind it as the game is rather old and the times have changed a, and thus the analogies fall short.

[@kaidynj2535]

Also you were asking a lot from a game whose intended audience was edgy teens to young adults who wanted a power fantasy.

[@michaelscotthawthorn7871]

18:51 - Lol .. Foot Fan Service!

[@R-vl6vz]

7:50 I regret not taking that gold T>T

[@Fenrisson]

0:58 - Hehe. "Crack on". Heh.

[@otakujeison]

my favourite game just wish it had coop campaign for the story not like two overlords but main player controls the overlord and player 2 controls some sort of super minion

[@theredangel8]

This was a very well thought out piece. IMO, Overlord 2 is objectively worse than the first game from a gameplay POV; it's handling isn't as smooth. As someone who just finished playing Raising Hell and Overlord 2 back to back, I think the second game has way more frustrating bullshit than the first game. The experiences towards the end of the game were less enjoyable than the first Game's.

[@seltin1988]

i have always liked the first game and the second is not bad but, i do admit the jokes are not the best :) edit: kelda is best girl!

[@duphasdan]

I got the sense that the constant jokes on the women was meant to intentionally insult women as part of the role of playing an evil overlord. The same with every other thing. For a sequel, I think a good one would be the father escaping hell and it would be father versus son. Also, it could be that one of the mistresses in the second game will be loyal and fight with the overlord, while the other betrays the overlord and joins the father. All depending how they are treated.

[@Contentrist]

I agree and disagree with you at the same time. Good game! A piece of art.

[@khanlusa]

And that's honestly fine! If other people enjoyed it more than I could, I'm happy for them and wish them well. I just wish they would also be as polite as you, so thank you 🙌 have a lovely weekend