"HOW PAPER GETS THE WORD" 1960s KODAK PHOTOGRAPHIC PAPER PRODUCTS FOR PRINTING PROMO FILM XD82735

[@zambufly1]

I retired from Kodak in 1961. Made photographic paper my entire tenure there. Loved it.

[@bholdr----0]

Photo paper is really interesting in its varations. (And how it's price used to fluxuate with the price of silver!)

[@teri2466]

Are you a time traveler? 😂

[@bholdr----0]

@@teri2466Am I a time traveller? Well... I used to be, but it got old. I'm younger than that now.

[@roneastman4457]

😂

[@billlittle4285]

Thank-you!

[@byTjo]

Fantastic! My profession from waaayy back. ❤

[@Woffy.]

To all you retired chaps from Kodak and the typesetting industry I doff my cap at your skills, the complexity of the typesetting machinery process is very impressive. The amount of investment by these companies to develop their systems must have been enormous. I have worked in Paper mills monitoring machinery and it is a magical process that can go wrong with the slightest change throwing paper off the machine at 80 kilometers an hour requiring a skilled application of an air line to get the paper to catch the 'pope' roll and all is well. A little work with Goss press for Livrpool Echo and a Heidelberg offset. Very much enjoyed this and learnt a bit I hope the comments bring back good stories and memories. Best

[@bholdr----0]

Interesting post! I once got a chance to fool around with a disused mechanical typesetting machine (maybe 1910s tech?) that was operated like a gigantic typewriter. (It used cast-lead type that were melted and re-cast between each time they were used in a printing operation- which was probably far more efficient than trying to sort out out the set blocks of type... It was in an old warehouse at a printers that was scheduled for demo. Luckily, a friend was able find a museum to take some of the machines so they didn't get sold for scrap. For lack of a better description, it was one heck of a contraption! (Sounded like buckets full of ball bearings being poured down a stairwell when it was in operation.)

[@dziban303]

doffing your head to an utterly dead industry, nice

[@Woffy.]

We stand on the shoulders of giants. Respect where it is due. @@dziban303

[@Woffy.]

Thanks for the story, can you imagine the brainstorming that went on to create the concept.. "Listen chaps I have an idea, we make a typewriter and moulds that we drop molten lead in then shove them in a line then stack them ete etc" Some of the kit identified in the video showed some mad thinking but it was a time when mechanisms were understood and how to piece them together.. I am pleased you helped save part of our heritage. I managed to find a how for my dear friends Muirhead Jarvis Photo transmitter, this was used to send photo's down the wire. It was the size of a piano with another stack of Valves (Tubes) and electronics to operate it. I remember clearly my friend Richard and I using it to receive images from NOAA and Meteorsat of the Earth. Amazing quality. I is now at the PK Porthcurno Global Museum of Telegraphy in Cornwall. (Look them up) Best rom the Uk @@bholdr----0

[@LaPabst]

I lived in Rochester most of my life. Its heart breaking to see how far they fell. Kodak was an absolute world leader on commercial photo products and also a monster defense contractor... Which by the way, was where they made most of thier money. Most of Skylab was built in Rochester. They built Rochester from the ground up and owned huge amounts of land and buildings. Its almost all gone now.😢

[@mrsjohnson1743]

I was a color printer for many years using mostly Kodak paper. It was always superior to all other papers that were made, black and white or color. The same was true for the film, chemistry and autoprinter equipment. I miss those good old days😊.

[@petescare13]

Not trying to argue with you, much of that preference is subjective opinion, and I liked Kodak papers, but not as much as their films. Agfa and Ilford were usually my preferred brands, Oriental was nice also. Of course the subject matter and the lighting conditions were factors in deciding what specific emulsion to choose.

[@bholdr----0]

Hi, I'm Troy McClure! You might remember me from such films as...

[@LaPabst]

Now that's funny!!!

[@jaminova_1969]

The irony is that they made a film about about paper and we are watching it in a digital format!

[@petescare13]

Of course it's very personal and essentially opinion and preference, but if we're talking about black and white materials I liked Kodak papers but didn't use them as frequently as their films and chemistry. For my work I preferred Agfa and Ilford, Oriental was nice also. Back in the late 80s, early 90s I taught intro to black and white, and an advanced class where we did alternative processes, the historical ones, often not silver based. They did require the use of orthographic emulsions and lithography films especially for those working in small formats because those non silver emulsions were painfully slow so contact printing was typically the default option.

[@lorenzoo90]

Ok sound cuts off 9:09 ish basically needs to be thicc/coated so be rolled into paper rolls for homeboy touches it to see elastic tendencies goes through a what seems to be a drying process guy cuts off a sample they store them in racks based on cut diameters also I have never made paper or studied it

[@farcohollis1369]

Incredibly ancient from this old pressman’s view! From this to computers sending the type image directly to press cylinders! Thats progress!

[@Woffy.]

Not even a cylinder just straight laser jet, amazingly boring.

[@BobbyS1981]

@@Woffy. sure, when it comes to home printing. For large scale digital printing, it is still quite impressive. Look up HP Indigo digital presses.

[@Woffy.]

Thanks Bobby I will, Some of the old tech was magnificent in its mechanical complexity. @@BobbyS1981

[@BobbyS1981]

The audio cuts off at 9:07. Was the audio track on the film bad after this point or is it a KZbin issue?

[@PeriscopeFilm]

KZbin music copyright claim unfortunately !

[@BobbyS1981]

@@PeriscopeFilm any chance of appealing that claim? KZbin needs to do more to prevent needless “copyright” claims, especially for a channel like yours that is just trying to preserve and archive old films for posterity. You’re being a good steward of historical films and not selling them for profit. Should be a non-issue. Do we viewers need to put the pressure on KZbin?

[@PeriscopeFilm]

We appeal all of the claims on every film we post and there are many music rights companies that see our point, that the music in these films was originally licensed from them and that there is a fair use argument to allow them to be posted without being blocked. However, not all music libraries understand the law or have any empathy or understanding of what we do or whey we do it. Those companies reject all claims, and that produces in some cases silence, and in other cases crap replacement tracks via KZbin. But what can you do? Thanks for your comment and for letting us rant@@BobbyS1981

[@charlesmacd1905]

yes, two places around 9 minutes and in the end credits the sound cuts out.

[@manhoot]

Talk about a paper chase

[@themanfromphoto]

All of it replaced by word processing computers.

[@guldenaydin9918]

Kodak !!!… Hımm!!

[@mrsjohnson1743]

I was a color printer for many years using mostly Kodak paper. It was always superior to all other papers that were made, black and white or color. The same was true for the film, chemistry and autoprinter equipment. I miss those good old days😊.

[@bholdr----0]

I remember that- Kodak had the BEST paper, but Fuji had the best film (especially direct-positive stuff like slide film)... Kodak was much more tolerant to development- one didn't ruin a whole run if one cycle was ten seconds longer or shorter. The finish (gloss or satin) was also better, as I recall. I was never a pro, though - just a lab tech.

[@mantroid]

@@bholdr----0 You beat me to it- Fuji was very good too! Kodak the gold standard, but premium price.