How Peter Jackson May Not Yet Be Finished With Middle-earth

A fan made video showing how Peter Jackson is still interested in returning to Middle-earth and how this may be achieved through the potential adaptation of 'The Silmarillion' in the future.
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[@FocalDepth]

The Silmarillion isn't a film, it's about 15 films.

[@sherlock4099]

Peter Walsh i agree

[@Nemesios777]

make all 15 then !!!

[@riccardos2955]

Lol the Silmarillion is more like 30 Movies and 10 Seasons of 2 Series. Its 4000 Years of Storytelling about the whole Lore. There are still Tonns of Documents that where not read not even by his son. His son himself telled in an Interview that he s Father did nor Complete his Work, he left him Tousand s of Documents scripts and Storys about the whole lore its overwhelming. The Published Book Silmarillion thou was just and assemble of storys Tolkien s son was able to Put Togheter, it s more like a Bible... but if you wanted to cover the whole first, second and Third Age then Good Luck. For example The Trilogy Lord of the Rings needed 3 Movies to show 20 Years of Middle Earth, how about 6000 Years.? Just my 2 Cents

[@theplotarmoredtitan5781]

Make it a series

[@ethanluttrell]

Faigornx oh yea, easily

[@MMAoracle]

I wish peter jackson would spend the rest of his life creating these magical masterpieces

[@theloner6063]

👍

[@hrvat1561]

Peter Jackson must film silmarillion.Who's with me on this?

[@Necroshine777]

i have been shouting about it for a long time. he must do this before he hit the grave.

[@CATDHD]

That should be feasible once the rights are given. I can totally forgive lackluster which was The Hobbit trilogy given how little time was given to PJ and how the script was just one movie extended into three while shooting. So, with good pre-production and preparation of script it can really work out.

[@ballsthatclank]

If I saw Morgoth on screen i'd poop with joy.

[@brandonwhite1987]

As would I.

[@Anu_Sol]

ReturnTrip That's hot.

[@LookingTheBest]

ReturnTrip I wonder what his more pure form as Melkor would look like....

[@TrunkMonkey3000]

Poop on me

[@sk8tann]

I’d rather see Ancalagon

[@EvenstarSaima]

Come on Pete! Do the Silmarillion!!! Finish off the saga! You'll have an amazing final chapter in your lifetime!

[@enderion37]

Evrybodoy wants silmarilion,but i really want children of Hurin. That would be epic.

[@aaroncsantana]

I mean.... the Children of Hurin is in the Silmarillion

[@enderion37]

Aaron Santana Well yeah i forgot about that .

[@anonwoohoo]

Children of Hurin is one of my least favorite stories of the Silmarillion to be honest. I think the story of Beren and Luthien would be pretty awesome. Anything dealing with Feanor and his sons and the Nirnaeth Arnoediad would be pretty cool. There is so much in The Silmarillion that is epic and The Children of Hurin is depressing.

[@Crandaddy81]

anonwoohoo I agree. The Children of Hurin is probably the saddest and most depressing story in the whole book. I'd rather not leave the theater feeling like killing myself (all three of the main protagonists are driven to suicide, incidentally). The story of Beren and Luthien, and of their Quest for the Silmaril, on the other hand, might be my favorite story in the whole book, and I think it has great cinematic potential. I'd really love to see a good portrayal of Huan, the great wolfhound of Valinor, in action! That could be sooo epic...

[@maidros85]

Everybody's talking about Children of Hurin and Beren and Luthien, and here I am, fantasizing about Ainulindale...

[@sohaibnaser5350]

Don't play with my emotions 😩 I hope Peter will return to middle earth

[@user-hp6bt8ec1r]

I hope too and i believe in P.J. ^_^)

[@ahlamhassan55]

me 2

[@Joshalots]

There's always a possibility that he'll want to take another crack at it. Hopefully learning from The Hobbit.

[@imlorien4468]

I agree, hopefully he'll be given sufficient pre-production time if he ends up doing more adaptations. The lack of preparation is imo one of the main problems which ultimately contributed to the shortcomings of The Hobbit Trilogy.

[@starwarsrebelsclips310]

no it is impossible for him or anyone to make any other films. tolkein did not sell the rights to any other books, so if they were to make any other toliken book, it would be illegal

[@imlorien4468]

As it stands now they cannot adapt any of Tolkien's other works, but that can change in the future...and I doubt Warner bros. are going to let their multi-billion dollar franchise go quietly. Theonering.net have outlined how more films can currently be made with the existing rights in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4XGooCiZc2qaLs (The writing/screenplay for these potential adaptations would have to be handled very carefully as there isn't a lot of material to work with).

[@gabrielmanolis5188]

Dumbass

[@starwarsrebelsclips310]

who r u calling a dumbass, yourself?

[@---MochiPunk---]

If he decides to make a feature film of the Simarillion let's hope he does not sign contract with WB studios. They screwed him over when filming The Hobbit.

[@inapina1985]

I’ve heard that Christopher Tolkien wouldn’t sell the rights to make a film adaption of the Silmarillion, so that’s why it hasn’t been possible to even attempt doing so. But now that he has passed away, maybe his family members would be open to it ? And, Pete, Fran and Philippas abilities to create a functioning (great) movie(s) out of a special and some what ‘complicated’ book, will make sure that they could def. make The Silmarillion work and into a new masterpiece(s).. There’s no doubt in my mind! Let’s hope the “easter eggs” left in P.Js videos means that they’re actually working on making this happen !!

[@thekittenfreakify]

The way things are going. I think Christopher was right.

[@CATDHD]

​@@thekittenfreakify, you are referring to Rings of Power, i assume. That has only the right for appendices, not the whole Silmarillion.

[@Brain18_]

Anyone here in 2018? Amazon bought the rights to film The Lord of the Rings film series. I would love to see Peter working on this together with his amazing crew! Like if you agree!

[@mirrormarch7374]

I think the Silmarillion would work best as a TV series. I'm picturing like, hour long episodes that span the whole book, with two-or-three-parters to cover the longer chapters like Turin and Beren and Luthien. Granted, it'll probably be the most heart-breaking series on the planet, but it's what the world needs... And didn't even know it wanted.

[@Uberdude6666]

So Peter said about a LOTR-film once, that it could not be done. It would be impossible to accuratly portray it on film. Well he did it, but the Silmarillion is like, that problem, x 10. Even though it is a shorter book, it has nothing to do with the length of the book itself. And those people who think that all the problems of putting Silmarillion on screen will disapear by making it a TV show instead, it- it just won't. The problem is that it would basically only be a montage of sequences like the prolouge to Fellowship of the Ring. Sure, that might sound cool and all, but it wouldn't really work as a film/TV-show

[@TheWartechgaming]

i think a movie depicting sauron's rise of power and the battle of last alliance would be pretty cool

[@ibbi30]

Film focused on Saurons rise to power would be a pretty interesting one since they could make it span 3000 years or more, which might work since you have the immortal elves to focus on. It would give you a real sense of the span of an elfs life. They could focus on the mortal men from time to time just to see them come and go as a contrast to the elves which would be the main focus.

[@TheWartechgaming]

yes i couldnt agree more i dont understand why dont they make it everyone is interested if anything all people that watched lotr wanted to see more gil galad elendil or sauron etc. it would be awesome

[@jamesaron1967]

Well guys, I guess you have your wishes answered if Amazon's project reaches fruition.

[@nuniobinez4066]

I never imagined a theatrical movie version, either. There's just too much material. I figured the best you could do would be a multi-part TV miniseries kind of thing, but the networks never seemed interested.

[@rageagainstmyhatchet]

Four films and they can do it! 1) (After a little backstory) Feanor returns from sailing the world for 100 years, the treachery of Melkor, the Oath of the Noldor, the travel to Middle Earth and the death of Feanor... End in tragedy. 2) The remaining Nolder arrive battered and torn from their journey; the introduction of Thingol (and Luthien in the background); the capture of Maedhros; the forming of elven kingdoms, the introduction of heroic men and dwarves, then the surprise attack from Anband and finish with the epic duel between Fingolfin and Morgoth. 3) Beren and Luthien in full, defeating Sauron, the capture of the Silmaril, the death by Wolf and reincarnation, off to live in peace, but what of the Oath? 4) The voyage of Earendil and the War of Wrath in full; starting with the sons of Feanor destroying Doriath; the death of Elwing-Swan, the plea to the Valar, and an hour of War of wrath, and then finish with the dark fates of the last two of Feanor's sons and the Silmarils. It can work... It's right there.... 3 hours a piece...! Now anyone know the Christopher Tolkien so we can convince him to allow it???

[@soulveiw]

LOL I take it you're not a film maker

[@austintinoC00l]

That wouldn't work at all

[@LookingTheBest]

Rage of the Turnip I'm so happy just to see people here that have the knowledge to call Melkor by all of his names :)

[@goldengaming177]

In 2033 the Silmarillion becomes public domain so if the Tolkien family wants to make more money off the books then they should sell the rights prior to that.

[@onthetrail506]

The Silmarillion was published in 1977 which would give it a Public Domain year of 2048 if J.R.R. Tolkien had been the only writer within the work, he is not, Christopher Tolkien is credited and has a writing credit too. So it is life plus 70 years of him for the copyright to end in the UK and that is if they do not pass the copyright on, which they will. As for the Public Domain scenario, that is for publishing royalties within a single geographical area and it would not be legal to publish or show a movie worldwide. They could make a movie if it falls into the PD in Canada and show it in Canada but would need to wait another 20 years for the work to fall into the PD in the UK.

[@michaelellis627]

From what I read, Tolkien's family had to give permission to make LOTR which they did. They weren't really pleased with Jackson's work (they felt it was too childish), but reluctantly signed off on The Hobbit. I can only imagine they were furious with The Hobbit and will not allow another movie to be made.

[@imlorien4468]

Warner Bros. do not need their permission to make more middle-earth movies with the book rights that they currently have. They could make another LOTR in a couple of years if they wanted to. But they only own the shared rights (which were sold to them by the Tolkien family) to the Hobbit and LOTR books so any movies based on other works such as The Silmarillion could not be made without cooperation from the Tolkien estate as the studio doesn't own the film rights for it.

[@michaelellis627]

This supports my comment. When I said "will not allow another movie to be made", I was referring to a new story eg. The Silmarillion.

[@Welther47]

I dont understand why they felt it was too childish. It was very respectfully made

[@SanderAgelink]

The rights were actually sold in the 60's, way before Jackson's adaptation. Ever since there is made an animated movie, a music video and Jacksons movies about LotR and the Hobbit. I would love to see more movies, but even if Jackson would get the rights it would take decades to film every story. Another issue would be that each story takes places hundreds upon thousands of years in between. It would take careful planning to prevent very little screen time for mortal characters.

[@zachstevens7382]

Michael Ellis you do know what tolkien did in writing the hobbit....?? it wasn't for adults let's say. and he always thought all the love and focus on his fantasy work was silly as his other works were far more important he imagined other would take more interest and not squabble over kids stories. oh I spoiled it for you. yes the hobbit was written for... your answer good sir. and the lotr followed because it was such a hit and to continue the lore but more adult focuesed. so really your entire comment or their comment seems folly because it was all meant to magical childish and few directors could match Jackson greatness with the lotr series. so I'm not sure where your getting your quotes sofisciated man but it does seem right here. they were not childish but weren't bloody gory xrated junk which tolkien would have hated. but the movies were more sensitive than the books probable meant to be for general audience and main stream audience grasping because fewer people read and think today. I'm sure their is still beef tolkien wanted Christopher Lee to be gandalf and Jackson chose the xmen professor guy. the hobbit was great even though their were things that went far off from it to add to the lore. at least they made it respectable to that of lotr trilogy and I liked the trilogy idea but very much distaste fir ruining the last battle of the 5 armies and making beorn a small side character. oh well. it's over.

[@fatli3138]

by only watching this video i started crying, i know im not the only one but i love and so passionate the silmarillion and legendarium, i just... huh it felt also so bad when i finished lord of the rings and the hobbit, i really want peter jackson to make the silmarillion, or children of hurin would be epic.

[@marcin123G]

Jacksons heart wasn't in the hobbit, he knew 3 movies were too much for such a tiny book and had to improvise half the time.

[@andrijaratkovic4332]

If I had to make another Middle Earth movie I'd probably make Children of Hurin because it seems perfect for a move with the curse and dragon and Melkor.

[@SakuraNami2618]

Whatever just bring me some movies abt. Middle-Earth and take my money!

[@cassandraknowles9386]

CassioPark this comment 😂😂😂 I’m with you on though!

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

Guys "I like Silmarillon = It can be a functional movie" is not how visual narrative works.

[@bturner999]

Very true.

[@thehomicidalcupcake3171]

Well, it did kinda have a plot.

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

An episodic one with a lot of summarizing where actual story needs to be.

[@scotsoe]

Agreed. I really don't know where they'd choose to begin, unless they decided to just make a set of anthology films. The story of Feanor doesn't really fit a movie well, and Beren and Luthien wouldn't make sense on their own. Really any series would feel underwhelming if it didn't end with the downfall of Morgoth, but the War of Wrath would probably be too over the top for fans of the Jackson films

[@debrickashaw9387]

They cant make a movie and call it "The Silmarillion". They have to either make it into a long series like GoT or call the movie something else like "The War of Wrath" or "Beren&Luthien"

[@Zaid_LevantPro]

1:43 gave me chills😂😂

[@dbyrnes41]

OMG PLEASE MIDDLE EARTH COME BACK!.... If anyone comment's saying "No they can't do that, the Tolkien family needs to sell the rights first before Jackson can produce a film for it" STFU we obviously all know that. Like give it some years or 10 or 20 jeez have faith they'll sell it one day instead stating the obvious...

[@daveski7]

How about you read the books instead of waiting for another piece of Hollywood trash to drop on us, tainting the legacy of truly amazing stories. But hey that's just me.

[@dbyrnes41]

I have and never going to again at least not for awhile

[@DrZeddy-wo5fd]

+Tom Cody you are right.

[@daveski7]

*****​​​ I did say that's just my opinion but of course there are people who love to oppose everything they see on the Internet. So how about you stop looking for arguments cos I'm not biting, kid. Beside almost everyone who has seen the films and not read the books has a distorted view on Tolkiens works. If anything I'd say the exact opposite. And you just can not say the Hobbit movies did the source material any kind of good.

[@DrZeddy-wo5fd]

+David Turner I agree that, even though I liked the hobbit films...there where lots of things in it that I ended up grabbing my head about. such as gobs of unnecessary action scenes and characters and humor.but I still hope yet fore a better film.

[@asifoutlaw9847]

there is always hope

[@RyonRykal]

Great video! I hope there comes more! Will watch everything made by Peter Jackson!

[@juanpablocontreras3416]

Such a great video, I have my hopes into watch the Sirmarilion come to life.

[@chiffmonkey]

I'd like a remake of Battle of Five Armies with actual planning this time

[@ashleybennett4418]

the hobbit is two movies at best.

[@MoonwalkerWorshiper]

TKDLION Yeah because being completely faithful to the book will still result in a trilogy. You illogical halfwit.

[@MoonwalkerWorshiper]

TKDLION Way to prove yourself being an illogical idiot twice, switching from "faithfulness to a book" to "imagine the book to be broken". BTW I don't need to imagine it being split into three parts, because it already fucking exists.

[@MoonwalkerWorshiper]

TKDLION "It could have been made into three movies and still been faithful to the book." OKAY BUDDY, HOW? Let's start elaborate your bullshit instead of spewing vapid bullshit on the internet like a willfully spastic ignoramus. The common complaint is that the Hobbit should've been two movies and not three. Accusing it of being a "cash grab" and whatnot. Let's hear it. How do you make three Hobbit movies and be more faithful to the book than what Jackson was? I don't need any "strength" to any "argument", my strength is that you don't know what the fuck you're saying.

[@MoonwalkerWorshiper]

TKDLION "I'll explain" you say and then you proceed to type six rows of text doing nothing to answer my question. We were talking about a remake of the Hobbit. If you got any substance between your ears, rethink what you're doing and re-read this thread and then get your lazy ass off to make sense. Yes I've read the Hobbit. Explain to me how your logic works as you propose three movies for one small children's book and make it MORE faithful that what Jackson already did. You'll either 1 tapdance around my question 2 ignore me and coward away from replying 3 switch the subject

[@IIIJFRIII]

Wow if Peter made The Silmarillion it would fucking own. Each of the 5 would be some epic 4 hour movie. I would also love to see Peter make a movie witch we get to see the other part of middle earth fighting during the time of LOTR, like the Iron foot defending Erebor to the death. And Thranduil and wood evls fighing, and other things like that.

[@_mi_ch_a_el__4699]

Ancalagon

[@LorenzoDoesntExist]

If you make The Silmarillion Trilogy, first film is the rise of Morgoth, second film is the corruption of Sauron, third film is the defeat of Sauron. Obviously, certain aspects of the book will be compressed, and new elements will be added in to make it a coherent story. Often, hundreds if not thousands of years will be skipped over, but that's okay so long as the movies are made.

[@MethosChannel]

I hope Pete Jackson keeps making all stories from Middle-Earth, Hobbit wasnt his fault. Taking over a project thats about to start is almost doomed, it's just like "Fincher's" Alien 3. His best work is still the first one, The Fellowship. No overUse of CGI and most effects are done practical. The last battle when Boromir dies is better then any of the "BIG WAR" scenes from Towers and King.

[@primordialone6523]

Warner Bros screwed him over of making the hobbit.

[@primordialone6523]

If hes gonna make the silmarillion, he should never sign a contract with WB studios.

[@theloner6063]

Peter Jackson is the only one who could bring such masterpiece like Lord of the RIngs trilogy. And The Hobbit is like the books, in terms of atmosphere....which means The Hobbit is great in your own way. Silmarillion must be direct by PJ or, MAYBE, Guillermo Del Toro (Faun).

[@Scottx125Productions]

I hope he does the silmarillion as a TV series, and by god I hope he learns not to use so much CGI (especially obvious super bright CGI)

[@oliverkorte43]

budget for tv series wouldn't be high enough with all the changes beasts like dragons balrogs and other dark/light creatures in the sillmarillion

[@oliverkorte43]

+Oliver Korte changes is cg damn autocorrect

[@Scottx125Productions]

Perhaps, Game of Thrones has pulled it off quite well. Though if it was put into a movie, it would have to be SO compressed.. even in 3 movies.

[@rendalconstantineau1680]

To do the entire Silmarillion? 3 movies? more like 15

[@halfingpaladin7130]

because peter jackson has shown himself time and time again to have no love or respect for the works of Tolkien?

[@RazKob33]

For the Silmarillion to be a true success on film, it needs to be a series and not a movie. That book alone fits for several seasons. If done right of course.

[@Nemesios777]

That would be totally awesome ! I cant wait for this to happen !!!

[@BuckIsBum]

Confirmed great work

[@bertimartha1820]

If they're making another movie.... lets hope ian mckellen would still be alive PRAY YOU FOOLS!!

[@andrewhodyss9092]

Then Falls off giant cliff and battles demon that is on fire in mid air and then lands in water and then dies and undies.

[@ShimmloLetsPlays]

... aaaand we got rings of power. All the hopes and dreams were crushed.

[@Simbabweman]

A new middle earth film even with different characters and actors than previously seen but with Peter Jackson's charm would still be amazing to see.

[@danasaeed9018]

I Would Love To See It Happened!

[@siramiel8365]

The Silmarillion should be a series rather than a movie, you would have to explain A LOT in that book to become a movie.

[@legolas5684]

this makes me sooooo fucking happy there is still hope

[@txmvz]

It's 2023 and I still have hope that Peter wil continue what he started 🙏

[@fesjo1013]

I just shared it to Peter Jackson

[@JupiterFilmsInc]

If he gets to do The Silmarillion, I'll be jumping with joy!!

[@ndrcalrryx2094]

LOTR was part of my childhood. I remember sitting down in the living room with my family watching the series on DVD/TV. Miss those times. Rewatching them never gets old. The Hobbit was really good too. I wish they made more fantasy movies like this!! I want more!

[@be4stsie]

Oké this realy gives me the hope

[@SanderAgelink]

If there would be made future movies, it could look like this in chronological order: - Silmarillion (tale of Fëanor) - The Children of Húrin - Rebellion of the Noldor - Beren & Lúthien - The fall of Beleriand - Rise & fall of Númenor - Hobbit - Lord of the Rings

[@SanderAgelink]

So basically 6 more trilogies ~heavy breathing~

[@vktheman9904]

Legend

[@kfrischy]

2021 gang still waiting...

[@danagle9877]

Please Eru, let there be a Silmarillion movie. And please, Eru, don't let Peter Jackson come anywhere near it.

[@matthewhoey6450]

Just having a live action Morgoth would be absolutely incredible to see and battles of the first age.

[@MerchantIvoryfilms]

A lot of you are armatures or have no clue at all what really went on with "The hobbit" This started all the way back after "Return of the King" and PJ had to sue New Line for money owed. New Line said very publicly "We will never hire PJ again" Even though they were breaking a contract of owed money to PJ which they did pay in the end. Years letter Del Toro leaves the hobbit and New line goes into full out panic mode and begs, BEGS PJ to take over since hes the only Director with even close to enough exp to take on this project. PJ had YEARS of pre productions for LOTR, he took the Hobbit, (A different directors work) and had only "MONTHS" to pre prep this film. PJ is the only reason we have a Hobbit film because that project would have been axed otherwise and its NEW LINE's fault for with holding payments to PJ back during Return of the King.

[@theloner6063]

This is why I think The Hobbit is almost a masterpiece! Still has the same atmosphere of the books...

[@Crandaddy81]

Well, Christopher Tolkien has made it quite clear that _The Silmarillion_ will never be filmed as long as he holds the rights to it, but at close to 92 years young that can't be too much longer. As far as making a decent cinematic adaptation of _The Silmarillion_ goes, I won't go so far as to say it's absolutely impossible, but as I'm sure anyone who's read it would agree, it would at the very least be an *_EXTRAORDINARILY_* difficult feat to pull off -- *_FAR_* more difficult than either _Lord of the Rings_ or _The Hobbit_. One thing I'm most certain of is that the whole story couldn't be told in a mere three films. It would have to be done over numerous installments, and each one would most likely command the budget of a major Hollywood blockbuster. Isolating certain stories from within _The Silmarillion_ for film adaptation would be much easier to do, and I see some commenters here saying they'd like to see _The Children of Hurin_.... No, please not that one -- not by itself anyway. Have these people even read that story? It's about as sad and depressing as they come. If we only get one story adapted to film, give us the story of Beren and Luthien, and their Quest for the Silmaril!

[@bsal5347]

God I don't wanna die without watching silmarillion and the children of hurin. sir Peter ,I beg you to take silmarillion into life. I haven't read book yet so that I could get more entertaining directly by watching that .

[@Rubythroatedhummingbird]

One last time jackson and that's it and all I ask for is a silmarillion movie.

[@boredwarlock5216]

YES!

[@Zaid_LevantPro]

Can anyone tell me the name of the iconic tune at 1:42 ? Thank you.

[@imlorien4468]

It's from the FOTR Complete Recordings, Caras Galadhon track

[@Zaid_LevantPro]

Thanks so much!

[@atomicdancer]

Here are some ideas for you Peter, to make it a better movie. Please use them - I don't want any money for them - they're free for you to use! First, I'd like to see a new character in the Silmarillion movie called Boo Baggins, who is the handsome young ancestor of Frodo and Bilbo Baggins. He goes on an adventure fighting a young dark lord Sauron, who has cool CGI ninja fighting skills for fighting with elves. Bobo also teams up with a young teenage version of Smaug the dragon, who is cool and funny and helps Bobo, before he finally turns evil at the end. There should also be a female giant spider with big blue eyes, who falls in love with Boo and fights beside him in the big battle, and ultimately has to sacrifice herself to save her love. The last big battle is two and a half hours of non-stop action!!

[@jonasthun6464]

I really hope he's gonna make the silmarillion as a movie - what a challenge :O But such a great book (Y)

[@SuperSymbiote1]

What's the name of the song when the book appeared?

[@SuperSymbiote1]

I give you thanks.

[@ajd.i8187]

As a person who Discovered LotR recently (A month ago), it was frustrating for me to see that no other movies were programmed for the future ... Until I heard that there was a possibility that P.Jackson could go back at it again ("There And Back Again" hahaha how funny)... FINGERS CROSSED...

[@DrZeddy-wo5fd]

that would be amazing.

[@mygetawayart]

now that WB has HBO Max they could make shows, mini series and even movies on there to expand the universe all taken from the Silmallirion. There is so much untapped gold.

[@whereveryouareamir9277]

I NEED a Silmarillion film but mostly the children of hurin

[@emileblin5952]

Silmarillon is impossible to adapt, it's way too dense. They need to focus on a particular story integrated in the silmarillon if they want to make a film. BTW there's a series coming out in 2 years from amazon

[@davejones76]

Everyone who's here after seeing the Amazon trailer: 😭

[@BelaCurcio]

what do y'all think now that they're doing a series? Peter isn't involved other than being a consultant on it. The series isn't allowed to use the events of the Silmarillion, do you think peter could still eventually make the Silmarillion film?

[@manueltoloza6007]

i really hope so

[@benbraun7696]

It would be interesting to see if they did the Silmarilian as a TV show. It would help give more detail without making a movie unnecessarily long.

[@thorondor5465]

While Christopher Tolkien has it say, it will never happen, but he is old man. PJ ruins books.

[@vadamsvengeance3219]

The hobbit changed this man. he started with black hair and ended with white

[@mariebiscuit2581]

if peter Jackson decides to turn the silmarillion book into a movie, I really hope he does, then without a doubt he will have bested the best of the best and surely be film producer royalty. He has given life to a world...very similar to opening of the silmarillion book. Well done, hope to see more of your achievements.

[@dowingba]

Of course they used the Silmarillion as a reference when making both the LOTR and Hobbit movies, since it's full of the backstory and lore of that world, which is its whole purpose.

[@bongo_baggins]

They said LOTR was "unfilmable". He proved them wrong. That allowed them to also bring The Hobbit to the screen. But i think we can all agree that the Silmarillion is unfilmable in a feature length format, without having a 9-part saga like Star Wars. It's probly best to either present is as a series, since the world is absolutely in love with Game of Thrones, or leave it as script and the imagination of the reader. There is way too much content in the Silmarillion, BUT the story is already divided into books that can be used as an outline for seasons of a TV series; Ainulindale, Valaquenta, Quenta Silmarillion, Akallabeth, and The Third Age. Not to mention the stories that were dearest to Tolkien's heart; Beren and Luthien, Children of Hurin, and the Fall of Gondolin. Those three alone would probably need their own separate film trilogies to tell the stories in full. Fingers crossed for an on-screen return to Middle-Earth as a TV series.

[@renferal3774]

I would love to see that.... such a great book

[@farahahmed8201]

Music at 1:43 ? Pls

[@rendalconstantineau1680]

Of course, there is also the complexity that would be involved. For anyone who has not read the Silmarillion yet, it covers the span of several thousand years if you include all of the time before the rise of the sun and the moon, and even if you only deal with then on it still covers over 500 years of events in Beleriand. Also, there is the fact that the time line of the Quenta Silmarillion ends over 6000 years before the events in the Hobbit, so anyone looking for any of the same characters would be completely disappointing. Now, there are a few stand alone stories that I think could be pulled from the Silmarillion, such as the Children of Hurin maybe...though (spoiler alert) everyone dies at the end of that tale. Basically it's a Tragedy rather than a Fairy Story. Beren and Luthien maybe though....that would be so very hard to do.

[@ZagadkaTeg]

Oh good Lord, has it really been so long? Just finished another re-watch of LOTR yesterday and then recognised the young lady picking up the Silmarillion in the doctor who clip,... Katie seemed to have grown up noticeably between the Fellowship and Return of the king but in the intervening years, wow. Blink of an eye for an old timer like me.

[@benjaminallen4675]

I think with Christopher Tolkein preparing to put out a seperate Beren and Luthien book, that would lend itself to film adaptation much more than the Silmarillion. Also, in the Doctor Who clip, they obviously put that copy of the book there just to mess with people that theorize like this.

[@AziaXtremeNFinity]

If possible hopefully he'll do The Silmarilion, The War in the North, The Children of Hurin and maybe something on Tauriel

[@huauau]

how would u make the silmarillion a move tho. would be really hard to create a good script for that

[@TrunkMonkey3000]

Deep in his castle they said We shall not rest until all will be thine

[@samdoo1433]

2023 - Elder Days: Beren and Lúthien 2024 - Elder Days: The Children of Húrin 2025 - Elder Days: The Fall of Gondolin With Richard Armitage as co-director like Andy Serkis was in the Hobbit :P

[@svenstefansson4022]

Man this was 4-5 years ago. :(

[@timothynguyen7400]

I’m afraid that by the time that by the time the Silmarillion is ready to be made, Ian Mckellen might be dead...

[@cdenver]

Even if Peter doesn't touch The Similarillion, you could always create a trilogy based around the casting of the One ring, up to the point where it gets cut off the finger.

[@panhookpictures2428]

RIP Andrew Lesnie.

[@adeptusastartes3698]

Name of soundtrack 1:44 please sounds like lothlórien

[@imlorien4468]

It is! Caras Galadhon from the LOTR complete recordings.

[@pauldavis7146]

Id like to see a new script fleshing out the 'war in the north': galadriel , celeborn, and Thranduil vs dol guldur. With Dain and whatever bards son's name is, vs the Easterlings.

[@thomassterrett1905]

I just got to buy the Hobbit extended cut and it took 4 days to watch all 15 dvd's. They did such a good job on both books the Hobbit and Lord of the rings thay can do this.

[@anonwoohoo]

They destroyed The Hobbit. Trying to suck three films worth of profits out of a single short novel was their undoing. Christopher Tolkien will never give up the rights to the SIlmarillion. He is going to guard that book like Feanor guarding the SIlmarils. And if Jackson ever gets his hands on it, it will be worse than when Morgoth stole the Silmarils.

[@PauloHenrique-gq9lv]

The Hobbit films were disappointing, but look at what he was capable of achieving (fan (for the most part) and critical acclaim, 17 Oscars for LOTR) when he and his team had 2-3 years of preparation time as opposed to just a couple of months. Yea, the Hobbit films weren't the greatest, but he has proven what he is capable of when given enough time to plan and prepare his films, especially for a world he feels so passionately about.

[@element1111]

Given the circumstances in which the Hobbit films were directed, they weren't that bad.

[@PackerBronco]

Sorry, no grading on a curve. The Hobbit movies were terrible except when Bilbo was the center of the action.

[@martymartin9186]

The Hobbit should have been only two films. The Battle of the Five Armies was unnecessary and ridiculous.

[@TehSkullKid]

The issue is that The Silmarillion doesn't have a flowing narrative. There are lots of stories and intricate details, but nothing that would keep the attention of an audience for hours and hours. Lotr was a finished book, with a singular, entertaining story, while the Silmarillion is a collection of unfinished fragments summarizing thousands of years that manage to be both brief and intricately detailed. It could be done, but it would be quite possibly more expensive than the previous Tolkien adaptations, and be much longer and more boring for all but the most dedicated of fans. Or it would have to be a simplified and shortened narrative about the creation of Arda and the corruption and eventual defeat of Melkor, which could have potential but would be disappointing to say the least. And that's only scratching the surface of the issues the film could have. Personally I'd like to see a film with an original story, but still set in middle earth. I think a film about Numenor could be interesting. A Children of Hurin movie could be neat, like everyone's already said.

[@southconwayNH]

Any future middle earth films made by Jackson would more than likely be "original" in nature, such as Aragorn's hunt for Gollum. I believe they have those rights, as long as they occur during the span of the Hobbit & LOTR. The Silmarillion would require several films. I'm not sure the Ainulindalë would make for good viewing for anyone but the most ardent Tolkien fan, but something like Beren & Luthien would be great.

[@SmithEvanA]

I'd rather have a Children of Hurin adaptation than something as high-concept and unworldly as the Silmarillion. Just a story about a normal human man and.. well, the rather badass life he leads.

[@TomorrowWeLive]

Yes he is.

[@thedarknesscallingme]

The story of Middle earth is still not finished, whilst there is the Silmarillion, the Children of Hurin, the Tale of Beren and Luthien and the Fall of Gondolin there is also the War in the North which takes place during the same time period as when Frodo embarks upon his journey to destroy the ring. All of which Jakson can use to make up for the disappointment that was the Hobbit

[@Tennyhu]

The stories of the silmarillion are much more dark and frightening than the lord of the rings. If they do make it it would probably take about 6 films and they wouldn’t be able to make it as family friendly

[@MrCrabdragon]

Hell Yes !!!

[@hydroburd7018]

I hope it's not just a movie about continuous searching and fighting of the same groups of characters. I want more story telling and exploring of interesting beings and own strange mystical experiences in middle earth.

[@perfectedvision5369]

God I hope lotr movies keep popping up...but the problem with tolkien's fam is the fact that after chris dies it will go to the estate and a council...which will make it even harder to get one through

[@robertwarrior]

watch the behind the scenes about the hobbit. Peter had no storyboards and was rushed to make the movies. In context he had about 3 years prep for LOTR