How Powerful Are Shamans? - World of Warcraft Lore

[@LairOfKraderoth]

As a player who have been a shaman since TBC, I really enjoyed this video. Thank you!

[@Doronsmovies]

Great to hear. :)

[@VotEtoPizdets]

Canonically speaking, Shamans are philosophically identical to Necromancers. Considering Necromancers are, as history has shown, balancers of life and death and not practitioners of evil. Look to the lore behind the Diablo series Necromancers. Essentially Shamans maintain order and balance in a similar fashion to Necromancers. At first glance they appear as polar opposites, but they are virtually one and the same. Just an observation from a random nobody online lol.

[@sdbana]

Well there are Dark shamans to take in consideration, plus, a shaman does not always need to ask for the elements aid, Tauren used to bind elements in their totems and slam them in the ground, scaring the elements and making the earth split. That is a form of dark shamanism. Just there are those so called "battle shamans" that are trained more into fighting.So my point is, that not all shamans "ask" elements, some choose will, dominance, or power display, making the elements follow them.

[@sighman9209]

The Orc Shamans became Warlocks, because the elements abandoned them, because they disagreed, with the genocide of the Dreanei.(hope the sentence made sence)

[@mestupkid211986]

and the shamanism the Draenei learned after being cut off from the Light, was just another facet of the Light, according to Farseer Nobundo

[@stankobarabata2406]

@@mestupkid211986 Well, the light in it's more "restrained" form is just balance. Which is the essence of Shamanism - a balance of the natural order. Of course, the light has it's own share of problems, like when it becomes so powerful it gets oppressive, as we saw in the Illidan cinematic where he met that one N'aaru (forgot her name) and blasted it into scraps.

[@BansheeKing22]

@@stankobarabata2406 you can also add in the mag'har recruitment quest where yrel and the light went on a crusade murdering and forcibly converting orcs and everyone else on draenor into light based beings.

[@Nerazmus]

"The elements will destroy you", "Storm, earth and fire heed my call!", "Feel the ground tremble.", "The spirits are restless.", "Ancestors watch over you!", "Elements guide me." And of course: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2TUqJauga6trK8

[@Doronsmovies]

Damn that song is a classic, still remember it from Warcraft 3.

[@gustavomedina8842]

Mr.Vojtik THE POWER OF THE HOOOOOORDEE!!!!!

[@Shadybish]

the good old days

[@BananaMike780]

this actually got me thinking, in general, is a fireball thrown from a mage hotter or colder than one thrown by a shaman? Arcane is a very potent magic source, but Shaman fire is pulled straight from the elementals, thats like fresh from the tap had to say

[@elpanderohabanero2915]

Depends on powerlevel i guess?

[@Yehoshua66]

I’ve always seen it as the arcane conjuring “artificial fire” I assume this fire is generally less potent than the true fire that someone like Ragnaros would wield. Of course any shaman wouldn’t be channeling his level of fire but it would be his all the same. I think it would take a massively powerful mage to go beyond most shaman’s pyrokinetic abilities.

[@DrumsandOther]

I think Shamans are the Most Powerful. Eben a Mage Ort a Warlock could Not stand a giant Wave of Molten Lava or an Hurricane. What is stronger then the Planet it self? 😊

[@Carpatouille]

Powers of multiple other planets or dimensions

[@petrsilhavy7401]

Bala is using power of cosmo!

[@chrissnider9555]

Druids will always match the shaman i think, because they're backed up by the full force of nature and dont have to worry about their power abandoning them.

[@cocakoolaid2283]

The power of grammar is pretty strong.

[@Needler13]

Literal cosmic energy that is fel.

[@hristopavlov298]

I always had the feeling that it doesn't matter how powerful is your source overal in terms of class vs class, since no mortal can ever hope to fully grasp his mastery over it. So basically in other words it always comes down to who has the bigger potential himself rather than who can use the bigger force.

[@quixmith]

I really do appreciate how close you keep the lore in your videos, I see so many comments saying "what if" as a hypothetical variation. Sticking to the lore keeps things withing a limit that is genuinely there. Cheers Doronsmovies, great job on keeping Lore the main comparison value or medium between powerlevels of classes.... but I'm rambling now, I'll stop lol. Great videos :)

[@kb-rn3wp]

Müll

[@sanguicidas]

Great Job Doran. I have been watching you for a long time now, keep it up man. You are awesome! I will try and remember to share your videos as much as possible as I truly think you are capable and deserving of waaay more exposure. Thanks for the entertainment man. 10 out of 10! (Also, your voice is just freaking awesome, like a wizard from a far away land giving the teachings of Azeroth!) Thanks for taking the time to gift this to us, you are on the correct path. :)

[@Doronsmovies]

Thank you, I really appreciate the support. :)

[@hallec504]

i wish dark shamin was a spec ...

[@JinwooYoon1217]

Hallec I'd rather just have Dark Shaman glyphs, or even a quest line like the Warlock "Green Fire" quest to change the colour of the elements.

[@AbusiveCactus]

Orange lightning and blue fire?

[@JinwooYoon1217]

The Hatch Corrupt Earth, poisoned water, dark winds, etc.

[@LichlordKazam]

sounds like a witch doctor spec, i like it.

[@hallec504]

would love it. ^.^

[@KronosSupreme]

Great video man. Looking forward to see the next one. I hope these videos are loads of fun to make.

[@Doronsmovies]

Thanks. They kind of are, a bit different from the usual lore.

[@dreamermagister8561]

I would add the fact that Enhancement Shamans actually efficent in melee combat. Not as skilled as an average Warrior ofc but good enough to fight against an average creature without the Enhancement. Wouldnt keep his/her ground against a demon tho, without the Enhancement.

[@Litany_of_Fury]

You mention that on average most classes have rather weak people like a normal warrior but I'd say that the Death Knights, Demon Hunters and Necromancers on average have very powerful individuals. My question is that what class has the most powerful average joe? My bet is the Deathknights as they have more experience fighting in life and death throughout the many years they have been around. Unlike the Demon Hunters who from the very start had a limited pool to recruit from and very few years (recently) of experience.

[@Thravous]

Holy fucking shit.... You're here? Are you truly Alpharius!?

[@Litany_of_Fury]

Anônimo Baiano Yes, but not truly.

[@Thravous]

Where is the inquisition when it is needed to get shit done. :'c

[@Litany_of_Fury]

Anônimo Baiano burning people to get shiny shit.

[@Thravous]

Is this what the Imperium of Man has come to be? This putrid thing... Where is the light of DA EMPERAH?! Where is his guidence... His love? The Imperium is now countless broken promisses and dream's. We're no better than the traitor's... Or even the foul xenos(but fuck the xenos!), that's it. I can't feel the light of DA EMPERAH anymore... For all my life i've know only war, and that's what i'll become. War itself! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE THRONE!!!! MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!!! Btw nice to see some 40k fellow's in the WoW community. =D

[@Dwenny]

Finally Shamans are here! I asked about the shamans 1 month ago, yes! :D

[@KeideunkMMO]

Again very nice video! I'm looking forward to seeing the next one(s) ! Keep up the good work

[@1Kapuchu100]

You are somewhat incorrect in regards to Druids. They don't draw on powers in identical ways. Shamans draw power from the elements, whereas Druids draw power from the planet itself. They sound similar, but are different.

[@DrumsandOther]

Kapuchu And think about it, the Planet ist Made of the 4 Elements. So basicly Druids are a weaker Version of the Shaman. 😄

[@1Kapuchu100]

DrumsandOther Not quite. The Planet is Azeroth itself. The Elements are separate from the Planet.

[@DrumsandOther]

But how can there be a Planet without the 4 Elements? The foundation of a Planet xD

[@1Kapuchu100]

DrumsandOther The answer to that lies in the lore of WoW. The Elementals are mere manifistations of things such as the earth and the wind. They are representations, not the actual thing. Otherwise the planet would consist of nothing but elemental spirits. Druids communicate with the Planet, and the Titan Spirit within (Azeroth is her name). Shamans communicate with the elemental spirits. They overlap at times (Thrall can make the earth tear open by asking the elements to do so, but so can druids as shown when Malfurion does it in War of the ancients), but the source of their power and what they do is still mostly separate.

[@ayxi_the_kobold]

Kapuchu They draw there powers by ASKING to use the natures power

[@Keknoud]

Green Jesus could rek all class leaders so Shaman > All

[@Archonis09]

Not anymore =)

[@libenhagos9335]

Archonis who would beat thrall now?

[@nolderine]

Lazy peon

[@demonpride1975]

@taco power you realize that the elements are weaker in thrall now, due to how he killed garrosh. that's why all shamans were able to get doomhammer, because it wouldn't work for him anymore.

[@chufeng6223]

Its because he feels regretful about what happened, not about how he killed him. he always wonders if he could have done better job. IMO he reminded Garrosh often enough, he just didnt listen. Thrall will regain his powers in time, he was the first fell orc to become a shaman afterall. Likes of Guldan are nothing to him, he can spite people like him 24/7.

[@xxtheeunuchxx264]

If you think about it, a shaman could technically defeat warlocks, mages etc. by way of hand to hand combat. Orgrim Doomhammer almost wiped out the entire shadow council and gul dan only survived through pleading for his life. But if you ask me any class is able to beat any class some way or another, and only few are definitively weaker than others. Keep in mind this is just my opinion on the matter, to me, shamans should be able to defeat rogues or warriors easily , whereas paladins, dks or demon hunters would make for a well fought battle and spellcasters (except for maybe priests) are situational, i mean whats a mage (with the in game abilities) going to do when you swing doomhammer in their face? Die thats what

[@MMT399561]

I always wondered if shamans would be able to breath fire. I know its weird, but I´m just interested in the limitations of a shamans abilities, if the elementals are working perfectly together with them...or if there is even a limitation. What do you think?

[@whyfallen1607]

Love those series, keep up the work Doron :3

[@MultiReptilian]

were dark shamans more powerful overall? could they be as strong as warlocks seeing how Garrosh replaced locks with them in the nu horde

[@DrPluton]

I wish my shaman felt powerful in game. I love slinging lightning and lava around though.

[@pieterpost26]

What transmog gear does the dwarf shaman use it looks so cool.

[@DevinDTV]

nice video, i liked it more than the last one

[@ericaobrien-aquino6064]

I'd love to see a "How Powerful are Hunters?' Video! People seem to Underestimate them, but the Beast Masters are surprisingly Powerful

[@MarkPuk]

I really love your vids! i hope you can do a monk one. Greetings from Mexico! :3

[@kalemman4360]

Thank you for another great video! Between a shaman and a druid, who do you think is slightly more powerful considering that they are roughly on the same power level?

[@aleksajovanovic5021]

hvala ti sto si napravio ovako dobar video za moju omiljenu klasu...jos jednom odlican video

[@Rodiacreed]

I really like this series. Make one about mages was what I was gonna say but someone else already said it :P

[@Doronsmovies]

Great to hear. I definitely will do one for the mages. There are a few classes left and they really are all over the 'power scale' so I'm trying to balance them out a bit. Do 1 video on the low, mid and high.

[@spacecowboyxiii4384]

That dwarf set looked sick! What is it?

[@Fablemerc]

Another top-notch video :)

[@DemonMaluMintus]

Just a fair heads up although whe it comes to a race's paragon fel and void are more potent than elements(I mean like a void corrupted naaru vs elemental lord( but when it comes to more toned down versions I wouldn't say that void and fel are stronger. Although fel is stronger we also had times where elemental magic was used to actually cleanse fel--And in broken shores we actually used a water elemental to topple down a whole Legion base dosing of fel magic and fel fires as well. +The element of spirit is also quite strong. Look at draenor for example, life element made it so there were giant spore mounds that could defeat a massive stone giant that was made by a titan personally. :P

[@Tethron]

Also I like your vids very much because they are interesting and awesome

[@nicholasleidecker2164]

Can you do a how powerful are priests video? Plus awsome work your videos are very informative.

[@The_Fuse_Maestro11]

I’m all new to this wow stuff and I’ve seen tons of videos but at minute 3:47 what race is that ? That some Orc/buffalo hybrid ? They look cool not gonna lie

[@wrapwrapper4406]

2:45 "fucking shamans how do they work?"

[@hassanbaker5706]

Hey dude you really should make another versus and an idea i have is Trade Prince Gallywix versus Mekigneer Thermaplug but just an idea

[@Doronsmovies]

I'm thinking about restarting that series but still very hesitant. Might go back to the versus videos after I finish this series.

[@nStinct42]

Setname of the dwarf shaman amor?

[@victorolson1477]

Hey doron do you think monks would be the best bet if we were to face the old gods because they feed on chaos and monks practice to have inner peace?

[@bakshev]

One little detail. Shamans don't need to use their own energy to cast spells like mages/warlocks/shadow priests. They borrow the power. It's explained in Lord of the Clans.

[@BansheeKing22]

I dont think shadow priests use thier own energy or resources since they channel the destructive power of the void itself. The only limitation if one could call it that is that shadow priests have to manage thier insanity. Too much and they lose complete control. Honestly I wish the shadow priest wasn't apart of the priest class and just a class all on its own. It would have made for a better legion class hall and class story over the underwhelming and disappointing one they got as the Robin to the paladins batman.

[@domjay]

Love my Gob-Shaman

[@yoshi20012003]

villain: shamans are weak shaman: elements head my call......please elemental lords: you called?

[@djordjedangubic7270]

Odličan video.

[@Doronsmovies]

Hvala.

[@ertrilpitcher95]

It's funny how u said on the dk vid a dk can easily defeat a shaman yet on this vid u say sonething different. So what's the truth?

[@LaplacesDemon494]

In game obviously a DK can beat out a Shaman, lore wise not so much. These videos speak lore wise not gameplay wise so if you see something that wouldn't make sense in game it's because they're not talking about gameplay itself.

[@ertrilpitcher95]

where are you geting your facts from. if the shaman uses elemental magic on a dk the dk's seranight armour will help protect him let alown the defensive spells. and even if the shaman tryed to fight the dk hand to hand it wouldnt work because arthas made the death knights to be one of the best hand to hand fighters. lore wise the only classes who can kill a dk would be users of the light and demon hunters.

[@leezhouwen359]

But that would actually make the dk heavily item reliant as opposed to them using their own strength. A dk's power is also heavily concentrated on their runeblades, without it, most of them can't fight. The dk saronite armor is also made from the blood of Yogg Saron, an entity foreign to undead. And Saronite armor is hardly indestructible not to mention there can also be gaps in their armor. I highly doubt the average saronite armor can take on collateral damage capable of leveling buildings.

[@bear576]

Try defending against a literal mountain collapsing on you with armor.

[@chrome6113]

Bruh, i like dk’s but a goddamn earthquake or the earth swallowing you seems stronger imo

[@pokeworks1]

Do rogues next pleaseeeeeee :D

[@TearDownGenesis]

Shamans are the best, some people are just in denial about that fact.

[@shara9555]

hell yea

[@Audreyxdding]

i don't think anybody's in denial of that in hearthstone

[@penzalo4119]

demon hunters - death knights - shamans - paladins - monks - are so op

[@rasmus6524]

Nice vid :)

[@pippingruber1186]

can you do a video on hunters

[@hellopeople7748]

Shouldn't a enhancement shaman be quite strong, and able to be a good warrior?

[@scratcharmstrong]

Shaman and druid = best classes!

[@SlendisFi_Universe]

Shamans are basically avatars (Avatar the last airbender) with a twist of their powers relying on mood of the elemental lords

[@lilzp9106]

I thought the shamans jut call on the spirits of the elements not the elemental lords. I mean thrall could still use fire spells even though ragnaros wanted hm dead

[@shirtlessviking9225]

Divine shield cant break!

[@corazon1099]

make a video for mages

[@Doronsmovies]

Definitely will cover them soon. Most likely next in the series or the video after that.

[@corazon1099]

Doronsmovies thank you and good job with this video and all the others.Keep it up

[@brankodimitrijevic382]

mages probably are the strongest!

[@dingusmclong-schlong3831]

As if we need more of the obnoxious "lol magic > all".

[@haaris1117]

good vid i loveed it

[@Doronsmovies]

Thanks. :)

[@haaris1117]

Doronsmovies lol np just keep it up, i hope mages come next.

[@afrodan7350]

DO ROGUES NEXT

[@stygyc]

How Powerful Are Hunters next pls cuz you didnt said much about hunters so far :p

[@ketoseris4948]

Are you going to do hunters now ? :D

[@ketoseris4948]

Btw why do you never compare the classes in your videos with hunters?

[@Doronsmovies]

I bundle them up mainly with melee classes, but I do know there is much more beyond that. The hunters have so many different subclasses. I will talk about the specific in their own video.

[@sergiolucas2781]

can anyone count how much times did he say "Enviroment" in this series?

[@scytha3721]

Thrall broke the rules in that fight and we all know it. Garrosh is winner by Thralls forfeit.

[@cynicalnitro8416]

That's why the elements weren't rocking with Thrall after that duel.

[@unevenbonsai1715]

Power of shaman depends on their mana

[@clearspeed158]

NON CAN STAND STAND AGAINST THE MIGHT OF ALL KIRIN TOR! I CALL UPON THE MIGHT OF DALARAN TO- level 30 Shaman: What Dalaran? The one the earth just swallowed whole m8? Yea about that... talk to Therazane if you want your city back.

[@snusnubot9004]

Shamans use all the ingredients, while druids use the cake

[@thehermit8723]

Hmm funny thing if the Light and the Void are the two fundamental forces of the cosmos, doesn't this mean that a Light/Void user in his full potential would be far above the other classes? Don't underestimate old Velen, there is a Gandalf the White sleeping inside him waiting for the Argus expansion to wake up....

[@Doronsmovies]

Not sure how possible that would be in the lore. Light can very much abandon the user.

[@thehermit8723]

+Doronsmovies Hmm thas open to discussion in WotLK we have the Crusader's Binderbard something were the Naaru and the Light intervenes and saves him from being turned to a ghoul and sends him to and they say that the Light never trully abandons no one. Even Tirion although his time had come in the DK quest we have a Divine intrve!ntion on his behalf. The zealots like the Scarlet's can use the Light but not in the scale that the boy scouts of Wow do ( Velen, Turalyon, Tirion, Alexandros) which pull tremendous feats with Light ex machina in difficult situations. Love your videos by the way...xD.

[@CrazyAjvar]

The reason why there are Draenei shamans is that light abandoned the Broken Draenei. After Nobundo became Broken Light refused to answer him. "Every day he would walk to the peak of a mountain and sit, praying, hoping, to somehow regain his mastery over the Light and that his nightmares would finally end. Countless times he did this, but would always go back to the Broken camps disappointed. Though one day, when his prayer was finally answered, no heavenly voice told him what to do, nor did a naaru descend from on high to aid him. No, Nobundo's prayers were answered by the Wind. "

[@trollzynisaacjohan1793]

Velen is also a mage or was before leaving argus.

[@leon180]

Im quite confused demon hunters and dks could beat Them in the other Videos and here its hard fir Them also i know it always Depends on the individual and enviroment skilled demon hunter champion vs skilled enh shaman Who Would win the?

[@iFORitzy]

rogue or monk pls ^_^

[@pajokamikaze]

Then why didn't Thrall go fight Arthas and Illidan? ._.

[@unheardr0b0t69]

KazeRV Well, Thrall had to deal with the Alliance, go to Nagrand and slay some orgres, and the elements in Outland are not the same in Azeroth.

[@KilhoAsh]

THE BUBBLEEEE!!!!!

[@bernardz1885]

how powerful are monks?

[@Cegorachthelaughinggod]

Spiritual leaderers?

[@meteorhammer913]

Shamans are so powerful that they literally shaped how world of Warcraft operates. Everytime something becomes absurdly overpowered, it's usually because of a shaman. 2 handed weapons, dual caster weapons, caster on melee gear, melee on caster gear, resistances to name a few. Let's be honest, no other class has shaped Blizzards game more than shamans, and the constant nerfs are directly related to out of control shamans can get

[@lostdmg7511]

do monk

[@TheMMObro]

shadow priests!

[@demonpride1975]

what the literal fuck, i have never had one of my spells not work because of a zone, secondly the fight between garrosh and thrall, yes thrall won. but because of how he won the elements no longer hear his calls. he is basically a warrior now. that was a really piss poor example. i think what you are talking about is npcs, not actual characters. spells do not get stronger or weaker based on the zone.

[@leliondesiles5155]

Please , How Powerful are prist :(

[@williamcrouse7146]

Another Element is ice

[@monkwinner4505]

Do the Monks next please like if u agree

[@fenriswolf8655]

they can block and parry but no tank...

[@johnmccracken5465]

Night elves should be allowed to be shamans

[@tauyang9561]

Shamans we are the seeds of his sons of jinns. Mairah Le Shaytan Djinn

[@Kristers_K]

shamans could defo rip any other class apart, there is not much you can do when struck by lightning, earthquake or impaled entirely on an earthen spike, just take an example from the highmountain tauren quest chain. ;p Though admittedly, their power is entirely dependent on the elements themselves.

[@rasmus6524]

Make a vid for hunters IF you allready have Done one do a New one :)

[@Doronsmovies]

Will make it soon.

[@rasmus6524]

ty :)

[@blaseforestcall3800]

Bravo :)

[@Searibox]

Why mages can call water elementals, it seem more logical that shamans should call waters!?

[@tooquick240]

I believe a mage just makes a puddle into a minion, instead of using a water element. I could be wrong

[@MultiDrunkNinja]

It's not elemental water, it's conjured water but if near a source of water they can do it. But, at the same time be able to do it without water near them. Similar to how they can conjure food, drink, fire, etc. It's just Conjuration I believe.

[@goldenshark7546]

In my opinion it is not exactly water elements in nature, but more like contructed animated golem like being in a form of water. Their power is limited to their creators, while shamans can call "REAL" water elemental and each one of them can have different powers

[@mymatemacca]

Rogue?

[@Trickyluck]

Hmm where are the monks in all of this?

[@Doronsmovies]

I usually bundle them up with the melee classes as they are very similar. Will go over them and how they compare in a future video. I try to not talk too much about other classes but only to briefly compare them.

[@Trickyluck]

Indeed they are, thank you for answering this question.

[@Nerazmus]

monk? Is that a new class?

[@idarekorval8077]

I believe Monks fall under melee classes.

[@НиколаВлатковић]

I despise monks but with my limited, and I mean very limited, understanding of monks they could be better against someone like warrior or hunter, also agains weaker casters more experienced monks could have better time then other non magical classes. I se them like lesser and weaker abomination brothers of deamon hunters with their somewhat increased speed and manuvarbility.

[@Toxickillz11]

doroooon momviiees

[@SuperDavidivan]

Are shamans immortal due to reincarnation?

[@Snowflake-xc9iy]

Bro The way U say History 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

[@lubaka8269]

MONK!! Do monk!

[@Cegorachthelaughinggod]

Thundrer

[@НиколаВлатковић]

Брука си мајкане. I think that shamans would be best used as weapon agains armies like footsoldiers, felguard, etc. than they would be agains some individual because they power is very dependable on elements. While someone like mage could maybe have a better time dealing agains stronger individuals like generals or someone like that shamans could use things like waves, earthquakes, storms, etc. and deal big blows to the enemy that way. Maybe I'm wrong but this is how I understod how classes work here in WoW.

[@Qwufi]

i decimated casters with no probs

[@stars8924]

💙

[@demonpride1975]

the problem with the thrall vs garrosh fight, thrall lost the ability to commune with the elements. because of how he took garrosh's life. so yeah i am guessing that's not a good thing, i get that it was mok'gura. but still.

[@mangomariel]

speed: 1.25

[@rayannaeem1130]

hello

[@Doronsmovies]

Hi. :)

[@kyrios0307]

How powerful are Shamans? Powerful enough to get a 1 mana 3/3 weapon FeelsBadMan