How Powerful is Ghost Rider? | MCU Power Scaling

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Roberto "Robbie" Reyes is a car mechanic who, upon being murdered by the Fifth Street Locos gang members, was then resurrected by Johnny Blaze and found himself imbued with a power to transform into the demonic Ghost Rider. Seeking vengeance for his death, and his brother's disability following the attack on their lives, Ghost Rider proceeded to track down and destroy these criminals until he was tracked down by Quake, who sought to bring an end to Reyes' massacres. Eventually, Quake had led Reyes to S.H.I.E.L.D. and he assisted them in battling against Lucy Bauer and her search for the Darkhold which contained an ancient power. Learning his uncle Eli Morrow had planned and succeeded in getting his powers, he helped S.H.I.E.L.D. to kill him and the Chinatown Crew, but in the process Reyes had allowed himself to be teleported to Hell. Eventually, Ghost Rider escaped, just in time to help S.H.I.E.L.D. take down the crazed Aida, and rid the world of the Darkhold for good.

[@KeyIssues]

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[@bob_1216]

Hello

[@KeyIssues]

Hi

[@Madchad6969]

Is ghost rider the fastest healing character in marvel

[@jonathanjollimore7156]

Seeing as he Satan bounty hunter with power hell behind him yea pretty strong

[@ManiacG]

What’s about the penance stare

[@nausthetic]

If ghost rider get into the MCU movies in any way, they'll nerf him so badly.

[@alonzoian7395]

But if you think about it, with the introductions of the Multiverse and you know Kang the Conquerer. MCU might afford to introduce Ghost Rider without actually nerfing him. We also gon have the Eternals as well. All the godly overpowered being will be on the MCU soon

[@flamevale4422]

So true. He is one of, if not the most powerful character in the marvel roster. They would so need him, especially so if he’s going up against the heroes. (Side note: things from heaven are the only way anyone not also from hell could incapacitate/kill the ghost rider.)

[@wolfdragon1150]

The only reason we don't have actual power scaling in the MCU is because it's just too expensive to animate and even then I don't think a lot of people would understand the true power that some of these characters possess another reason is the character development takes time that would take years look at iron man he at max is 1/10 the power he had in comics. I also just remembered that another reason why it's hard for them to do power scaling is because certain characters the other characters to exist to show how amazing they are like Tony Stark is brilliant but you don't really see that too much because they don't really show how smart Black panther is and Mr fantastic isn't in the MCU either. And without that knowledge boost he doesn't get into his super overpowered crap.

[@hazardous8301]

@@flamevale4422 Ghost Rider is definitely one of marvels most powerful heroes. But definitely not characters.

[@skinsalad1262]

This is the nerf

[@benevolence5205]

If y'all grew up watching nick cage play the ghost rider then you'll know just how badass the ghost rider really is

[@ogrethesober4904]

But they still didnt show his full potential in the movies tho. Although the movies were great

[@noelcrist7109]

@@ogrethesober4904 anything with nick cage is great

[@StayLazzy_bbbbooiiiiiiii]

Oh yeah

[@2centschange]

If you read the comics recently, you'll know that holds up as well, as reyes was able to high jack a dead celestial and use it essentially as a mech suit to actually fight other celestials...

[@nukenade4623]

Still got the nightmares of ghost rider screaming NOT THE BEES!

[@Aaron-st2pm]

In the first ghost rider film you actually see he's not the first. the old man who found him passed out is a ghost rider on a horse, kinda badass ngl

[@1man2raw]

Carter slade I believe is his name

[@Aaron-st2pm]

@@1man2raw Yes brother. Also known as "The Caretaker"

[@nordindelosreyes9290]

The firehorse motorcycle ride was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Aaron-st2pm]

@@nordindelosreyes9290 literally and metaphorically

[@monkeynards1189]

I used to have the caretaker action figure. Absolutely badass

[@joshuadouglass4024]

Ghost Rider scaling vs. The Avengers isn't even a question. Back in the F4 comics, after a beatdown of that team by Galactus, Ghost Rider shows up and hits Galactus with his penance stare (do the math on all the death on all the worlds Galactus has consumed, fired right back at him in one shot), and forces Galactus to surrender and leave earth alone. This puts Ghost Rider on the same levels as the most powerful Celestials (and his origin being the angel of vengeance prior to loosing his mind only adds cred to this).

[@TheMeta141]

true however his power scales by how bad the enemy is. if the enemy is justified I.E has never committed a sin then Ghost Rider's power takes a nose dive. hence why when Hulk went nuts and Tony asked for his help G.R told him he couldn't help

[@joshuadouglass4024]

@@TheMeta141 Choosing not to fight him is not the same as winning or losing to him. That actually came up twice (both with The Hulk, and as World-Breaker hulk (and if Ghost Rider is on the same power level as World-Breaker Hulk, then the Hulk of the Advenger would obviously be no match). But even without the penance stare, the fact of the matter is that Ghost Rider can only be truly harmed or killed by "weapons forged in heaven ", of which Hulk has never had access to. So if Ghost Rider chose to, he could harm/kill the Hulk (remember, Ghost Rider's hellflame cannot be regenerated, nullifying Hulk's healing factor), yet Hulk could never cause Ghost Rider any lasting or permanent damage.

[@journeyman_otb3983]

I remember that, man didn't get off of his bike. He used the Pennant Stare for just half a moment and then dipped.

[@laughs150]

Lmao thats boring af

[@benjackson6260]

Ghostrider is the Superman of MCU... Literally no one can defeat him with the powers he possesses (not talking about the comics, only the movies and shows) In the Hulk & the Agents of SMASH, he burned the gamma off of the Hulk and turned him into banner (Not sure how this is relevant but I just had to add this sick demonstration of his power)... I mean physically talking he can take on anyone and who knows if he got the Stormbreaker or the Mjolnir he could turn them into hellfire versions of his choice (That would be sooooooooo cool to see) I mean in my opinion MCU dosent want to emphasise his character much because upto this point there hasn't been even a single weakness shown about him anywhere in the movies or the shows... So if they decide to bring him in with the rest of the crew he would render their existence obsolete... He could just have beaten Thanos himself or maybe turned one of the megaships of Thanos's army (Which are destroyed by Cap. Marvel) and turn them to his hellfire version and blow up the entire armada of Thanos... So if the MCU decides to show him, it would only be with the teamup from Blade, Living Vampire, Dracula, Dr Strange, Memphisto, Wanda, etc... Only the ones with any affiliation to magic or hell powers... Cuz literally anyone in the non-magic/science department would be instantly useless against him... Perhaps Tony or Richards could create methods to contain his Hellfire or even the spirit of vengeance, but that would require a really long time, and FYI Tony is dead now...

[@Gat720Dua]

The thing about Ghost Rider is that he's not a guy with a fancy weapon, he's not some kind of enhanced meta-human, he's a supernatural force of nature. He is literally hellbent on hunting down anyone who committed a terrible crime.

[@lenifoster5360]

Literally hell bent. I love that ⚡️⚡️⚡️

[@gillriet773]

yes dude like, sure theres a human host but their goals and desires come second to the main drive for vengeance super rad

[@RC_dido]

Didnt punisher become ghost rider?

[@Gat720Dua]

@@RC_dido Cosmic Ghost Rider from what I heard and I think that one is from another universe (because comics)

[@personman1148]

I consider the Punisher a similar force of nature. Just with guns.

[@siddharth9597]

Holy cow ghost rider is an absolute unit

[@KeyIssues]

U N I T

[@dogge4649]

@@KeyIssues I forgor 💀

[@saturnianrings3920]

Then why is it that it takes him like 6 punches to knock 1 guy out.

[@manuelgonzalez2382]

Yeah he is a ghost and a demon so unlikable by man and alien because he is destined to suffer while need suffering of others

[@MrKrispee]

Go check out his comics they get even crazier.

[@ashkealz42]

Did y'all know that Zarathos (the power behind ghost rider) was originally an angel with the flame skull, but he was just as powerful as Memphisto and Galactis

[@isaiahsimp98]

Yes to Memphisto but I don’t think he was as strong as galactis

[@chico1786]

@@isaiahsimp98 He was. He stalemated Galactus. Was a hard fight though, and it was multiverse Galactus, not the original single universe one.

[@GabrielArchon]

@@isaiahsimp98 There is an instance of GR one punching Galactus with the penance stare. A literal: Came, Saw, Conquered. Then left just as badass as he came.

[@LordMorltha]

Zarathos isn't the only Spirit of Vengeance. Danny Ketch's SoV was Noble Kale, and Robbie Reyes' was Eli Morrow.

[@mythrandir8118]

Galactis 💀

[@HorizonIncarnate]

8:41 I love that they use the same portal opening visual as they use for Strange here

[@MrMisanthrope84]

Ghost Rider is a great character in that he's a force of nature, in that he can't be controlled. He just happens to people and you have to live with it. I love Ghost Rider.

[@muhamnadadam6726]

Well actually in the comic's he became a herald to galactus, which then thanos killed galactus snd made ghost rider his servant instead since ghost rider is literally unlikable

[@elenaji4649]

@@muhamnadadam6726 unlikable or unkilable?

[@gowlet7721]

Quake would demolish sif

[@tylerjohnson9214]

Nioce

[@zepho100]

@@muhamnadadam6726 unlikable hahaha.

[@Gorg1]

So he can punch harder than Hulk, is almost invincible, has reaction times several hundred times faster than the speed of sound, can see you if you're invisible, is a pyrokinetic, and can travel through dimensions

[@rykerz105]

And can only be killed by the one and only God OP enough?

[@acsmith1771]

Not if you're invisible. He can see spirits.

[@bobrosslol7335]

You haven't even seen the bike yet

[@nev7]

+ hes super badass and style points count, ghost rider > thanos

[@duboleaks]

@@nev7 Thanks can beat GR with the infinity stones right? cause I really like GR but then he would be too broken being better than thanks in style AND power.

[@lionelwhiskerknot]

Ghost Rider is considerably more powerful in the comics than in the MCU. In the comics he has been reduced to ash just to reform into the Spirit of Vengeance again. While in Ghost Rider form he is pretty much immortal and will relentlessly pursue his prey to exact vengeance. He is vengeance personified. He might not dish out damage as some of the other big hitters in the Marvel Universe but you can count on him to come back again and again until his task of vengeance is complete. He is typically a solo player but if he had trouble taking someone down I'd imagine he would team up since it doesn't matter how vengeance is achieved so long as it is done.

[@Wall_E.]

I think there's potentially a way to turn him into an antihero. That'd fit his character, although his duty is kinda heroic. He's literally anti villain.

[@Coltist...6g3]

​@Wall_E. Nah for the most part he is an anti hero and goes against hell itself. Sure he's been manipulated but because the spirit of Zarathos a demon trapped and now giving the powers of the ghost rider is still compelled to enact vengeance, he eventually goes against that manipulation. I'd say 9 times out of ten he is lot more reasonable than the punisher as there is no gray zone with what he sees depending on the writer. Only the concept of revenge itself is gray.

[@firstnamelastname9237]

Robbie Reyes is still one of my absolute favorite characters in marvel. The actor felt great for the role and overall the episodes with ghost rider in them were my favorites of agents of shield.

[@Tainted_Human]

Gabriel Luna was even up fo play him some more. But his show got cancelled unfortunately

[@firstnamelastname9237]

@@Tainted_Human Unfortunate indeed

[@jonathan45564]

He’s my favourite because I prefer the Hell-Charger over the Hell-Cycle, even though the Hell-Cycle is more versatile.

[@DT-hy6px]

Blaze is and always will be Ghost Rider

[@skintgirafde320]

He was supposed to have a Hulu show? Ah man, now I’m pissed!

[@KeyIssues]

we were robb(i)ed

[@skintgirafde320]

I wish there was at least a ghost (rider) of a chance we can get! Oh well. Way to crush my spirit (of vengeance), Hulu!

[@aox0blade]

@@skintgirafde320 Nice one 😳

[@gokugoma3258]

You should be lucky he didn't get a Hulu series look what they did to Damian hellstrom

[@agentemerald4563]

Kevin why

[@lavenderblossom9304]

as Stan Lee once said, "the person who would win in a fight, is the person the scriptwriter wants to win"

[@Parry.Hotter]

Exactly. Most (if not all) characters in U.S. comics are as strong as what the author wants. Things is a bit different in Japanese comics (aka manga). Just saying.

[@GameboyFanatic]

@@Parry.Hotter I have seen so many Anime where the main characters get their stuff kicked in several times and it just makes their wins better

[@yazekami4656]

@@Parry.Hotter pretty sure they are the same with stories there are those authors who want their character to win even in manga

[@captaindeadpool7174]

@@yazekami4656 Manga has more consistency

[@sanjeevan9831]

@@Parry.Hotter your username is what happens when a time traveller moves a chair

[@neilmelansonmma]

Ghost Rider is one of my favorites ever since I was a kid. I still have all my comics from childhood and I’m 45 now lol. That was a great breakdown. Thank you 🏴‍☠️

[@No_Fuse8771]

Same here, sleeved and in a box. I'm 47.

[@theskylion1726]

The penance stare on the right person is all he really needs for a lot of MCU characters. There are exceptions (iirc penance stare did not work on thanos bc he believed he did no wrong in his misdeeds). But really penance stare is all he needs for a LOT of villains/antiheroes, even heroes that have done wrong.

[@thecommentguy9380]

Ngl Thanos was little more than plot armor. Because whether he thinks it's justified or not, he killed innocents, and that's enough for the Rider to kill him. The Stare not working on Frank is more understandable because he only hunts criminals, criminals that Rider would also kill, so he's completely justified unlike Thanos

[@mattmiszewski9577]

Penance stare works based on the burden ones misdeeds have put on their soul. If you have absolute conviction that you haven't done wrong then the stare won't have much effect on you.

[@jeffersonmetzen9866]

If I remember correctly the Penance stare doesn't work on Punisher, I might be thinking of a different character though, anyways the reason being in their heart they didn't do anything wrong.

[@Wall_E.]

I've heard he actually one shot Thanos with it wth? What's the truth here y'all

[@jjakie07]

The Ghost Rider is so unique. I'd assume the spirit of vengeance would even be immune to Thanos's snap, as he is not life, but a spirit.

[@iloveboobies4938]

Thanos could still just kill him. Or make the snap only affect him.

[@sliq3rd80]

@@iloveboobies4938 You’re wrong lol, thanos couldn’t even kill him in the comic. Like that guy said he’s a spirit so the snap will most likely fail.

[@iloveboobies4938]

@@sliq3rd80 what are you talking about. Thanos is god in the comic? Mephisto could be destroyed just as easily as anything else with IG

[@sliq3rd80]

@@iloveboobies4938 Idk why you’re bringing up mephisto. They literally said ghost rider can possibly be killed by weapons forged from heaven, or by god himself. And Have you ever heard of Cosmic Ghost rider? King Thanos couldn’t even kill him.

[@lunakoala5053]

Heaven and god are a thing in marvel comics? Truly hope this doesn't find it's way to the MCU. Even for comic standards that's just stupidly unrealistic.

[@adamm2787]

For those that don't realize it, the guy Ghost Rider is punching after he breaks out of the cage isn't just "some guy." That's Jefferey Mace, AKA 'The Patriot'. He is a superhuman from 'Project Patriot' and his power levels are somewhere around those of Steve Rogers. So Ghost Rider didn't just "punch some guy and not hurt him" he beat the absolute shit out of a superhuman. Imagine seeing Captain America get absolutely demolished by like 8 punches. That's basically what we are seeing here.

[@lilricebowl9731]

Also he wasn’t trying to kill him

[@KristofferEk]

isnt that basically Cap vs the winter soldier?

[@sethv5273]

@@KristofferEk yes but if one of them absolutely clapped on the other

[@yaboyjackiechan1483]

@@sethv5273 man on man action

[@aditya3127]

@@yaboyjackiechan1483 mom vs devil

[@GOmegaPHD]

When the Punisher was selected to be the Ghost Rider in Cosmic Ghost Rider it shows just how insane he can really be

[@Zaudunyani]

Hard to reconcile, "he's literally an unkillable monster stronger than every other hero," with, "rides a motorcycle and punishes low-level mooks." He's given an SSS-tier power set and used in a C-tier capacity. You'd think others, knowing his abilities, would just sic him on the universe-level threats and play support.

[@stevem4783]

Ghost Rider does what he wants, not what he's told to do

[@GOD69_69]

Then again, He Also Fights Demons, Angels and Hell lords like mephisto on daily basis

[@justsomeone1555]

That's comics for ya. Power scaling is simply not a thing. The Flash is the fastest man alive yet his villians include a guy who throws boomerangs and some thug with an ice gun. Batman is supposed to be one of the best fighters in the world who knows 100 different types of martial arts yet whenever the Joker gets in a physical fight with him, he somehow holds his own against Batman. People always get mad when their god characters from comics get powered down when used in other forms of media because most don't get that unlike comics, things like movies and TV shows actually care about logic and don't just go out saying shit like "oh this guy is so strong he can battle gods look how powerful he is" when in practice, said character can't do that because then there'd be no conflict. No story. This show got that. This video guy hyped the character up too much. This particular adaptation of Ghost Rider is very powerful but he isn't some unstopable force. He would actually lose to many of the big MCU heroes. He almost couldn't handle a chick with teleportation powers because she kept dissappearing on his ass.

[@victorcippitelli2242]

Taking World War Hulk comics arc into account, GR powers allows to fight toe to toe with Worldbreaker Hulk. So imagine how powerful he is.

[@DarkcIoud1111]

In actuality, the Ghost Rider wasn't even fighting Worldbreaker Hulk during that story; Johnny Blaze was just using the powers of the Ghost Rider to try and fight the Hulk off. Dr. Strange even points out that the Ghost Rider's power is almost limitless and could easily take down the Hulk no matter how mad he is if he really wanted to, but as soon as the Ghost Rider takes over he just rides away which I love.

[@carlgraham9526]

Could be wrong but im sure if the ghost rider is let loose, he's potentially the most powerful being in the universe, limitless power

[@darktrooper1761]

@@carlgraham9526 in the comics, at the end of the of any universe, the last 2 characters alive will always be thanos and ghost rider. There's a third character but forgot.

[@carlgraham9526]

@@darktrooper1761 silver surfer?

[@martinshoosterman]

@@darktrooper1761 adam warlock?

[@TheOneWhoDings]

Ghost rider is the coolest character the MCU introduced to this day. He's just savage

[@KeyIssues]

Love him

[@lightningboltt5437]

He is essentialy stronger then 98% percent of the avengers

[@seth9655]

Is Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D still part of the MCU or it's also confirmed to be non-canon like all the Netflix series (it's not Netflix, but could be non-canon)?

[@lightningboltt5437]

@@seth9655 it is canon The seasond tie into mcu events

[@IP_Films01]

@@seth9655 Despite contrary belief, no, none of the shows were decanonized. Idk who came up with it or why new MCU fans are believing it.

[@gettindickered]

Please let Keanu take the role and have full powers. Give him the character he deserves.

[@furyassassin]

So... John Wick, he's just not needed to transform yet.

[@MrMaKeMeDiNnEr]

John Constantine gets possessed by the spirit of vengeance

[@syedfarukhaider1330]

Keanu is fits best as constantine

[@dylanguignion2036]

k we need keanu, with the ghost rider movie out fit (but bubbling like in SOV) and bike, SOV skull and throw in the bagger too. and locusts, and the rest of god's wrath. and ultron (think about it)... he could probably overide ultron and possess him too, just like any other machine.

[@pink-kunnn]

No. Keanu's a good and lovable guy but he's not a good actor.

[@PWNHUB]

Sounds like the MCU Ghost Rider scales to the comic fairly well as he becomes ultimately powerful later on in the comic.

[@omniframe8612]

Finally someone said it. Johnny beat Dr Strange’s Ass, The spirit of vengeance didn’t murder hulk in WWH because he said he was justified. That was the only reason 😂

[@KeyIssues]

You welcome

[@TheAwesomedude399]

Well new canon is the immortal hulk is basically a spirit from hell as well which wasn’t established in WWH

[@spiritofvengance9876]

Classic strange would wash ghost rider no diff.

[@asasdsaasda]

'the spirit of vengeance didn't murder hulk in wwh because he said he was justified this make no sense, Hulk action cause harm to others that were not involved in what happened to Hulk, no matter how much you spin it Hulk is guilty

[@Nutterbutter123]

@@asasdsaasda blame the writers lol Granted I personally never read the comic but do remember seeing scans of GR riding away

[@nexdzchamble456]

it's cool to know that with such a strength, he is literally using 0.001 percent of the power when punching shield members so he wouldn't kill them.

[@finstrike7]

Indeed. He only kills those who deserve it, or people who have called down vengeance against another person. Or spirits and demons who escape the Dark Dimension or Hell. He sends them back. Even in the Nicholas Cage Original film back a decade ago, he could just look at someone and call them out as guilty or innocent. Instantly. That’s a core aspect of the Spirit of Vengeance; Hellfire Judge, Jury, & Executioner.

[@Zoxxies]

The Rider only kills people who are *”Guilty”* For example With his penance state he can tell instantly if your guilty, which means if you are Guilty he tortures you with all the pain you have ever inflicted on anyone, And he also kills beings from different dimensions. There is a reason he is *The Spirit of Vengeance*

[@AntonidasVII]

Yeah but just to clarify that wasnt just a shield member in the video that was jeffrey mace with the super serum the third captain america clearly ghost rider held back but took out mace with just a couple of punches same would do to steve rogers

[@Truth-wonder]

@@finstrike7 Not to mention in the second film where time was basically irrelevant to him when he fought Satan

[@redhakiim789]

Ghost Rider is like an entity that possessed a host to find those who commit sins(probably heavy sins) and needs to be punish. That's what they primary objective is. Think of it like, an Angel of death except hell version. As you can see in the show, the host(Robbie) is clearly in control of GR but that's just how much he can handle the power. Even Johnny Blaze take years to unlocked the GR hidden potential and the fact that he stomps the avengers by his own in the comics says it all. I would love to see in the future they make Ghost Rider shows and have character development so we know just how powerful he is.

[@eebanzugaming1546]

I never realized how much they hashed out ghost rider in the agents of shield and even went so far to connect his powers with the dark hold and dr stranges own magics by showing he could mock stranges portals with his own ability, showcasing his abilities are tied to the magical plain and he instinctively uses those powers without any training which gives him a one up in skill when compared to dr strange which is bonkers to think about in the current mcu. I reeeeeally hope he shows up in the mcu and takes on the likes of Wanda and strange and show them just how underpowered they actually are. Especially since they’ve made Wanda seem stupid powerful in the mcu. To have someone else show up to challenge the strengths of those characters including captain marvel would finally get their true powers scaled appropriately against others marvel characters that are way more powerful.

[@sonify3884]

Yea I would really like the ghost rider from agents of shield to show how powerful he is compared to like spider man and dr strange. I loved the ghost rider and is probably my favorite mcu character

[@stevem4783]

Rider is more powerful than Wanda simply because of his durability. Wanda is a glass cannon. Not sure she could do much to hurt him outside of maybe figuring out a way to separate the spirit from Robbie (but then the spirit would simply move to someone else,) but he could take her down in an instant.

[@tlxatom7004]

@@stevem4783 ghost rider is immune to magic and reality warping too so she is basically useless against him

[@bable6314]

@@stevem4783 The spirit could move to WANDA lol. It might have a hard time controlling her, because, ya know, mind powers, but it might actually be able to. She lost her kids the same way Mack lost his daughter, AND she lost her brother, parents, and love of her life.

[@hyperioxgamingyt3304]

Wanda is literally powerful, only the stupid ones would say she's overpowered .. She is that much powerful or I would say scarlet witch, she was destined to be this way but i would still think it's not gonna be easy against gr , coz that man has op powers and hax and not to mention , a strong ass plot armor , I mean the writers of gr really loved him so much..

[@SC-kd5ln]

For those who guys don't know, ghost rider is already in the MCU, he was shown in agents of shield

[@Nyctra.]

Agents of Shield is highly controversial as a part of the MCU. Many don’t agree that it occurs in the same universe since it makes no sense.

[@BDX423]

It was confirmed it was so bad they retconed the show

[@Jz-xj4km]

I was surprised so many didn’t recognize 98% of this video was agents of shield haha

[@snoshio6043]

I’m sorry this has nothing to do with ur comment but wtf this is the 1st time I’ve ever seen someone else that shares the same name as me. That is insane, nice to meet u fellow Shaan

[@deangullberry5148]

@@Nyctra. the very first episode established that it's in the canonical universe. It's just ignored because it went so far off the rails.

[@j-zhirngaming9550]

Robbie needs to return in any mcu upcoming project since he was a great ghost rider

[@darrenkey207]

Been saying this for a while. They should've given Robbie Reyes his own show instead of pushing him to the side for the ill fated "Helstrom"

[@MarvelousPhilly]

@@darrenkey207 I'd rather get a better, MCU movie for Reyes' GR right now than a TV show. Though a horror themed show does sound nice.

[@darrenkey207]

@@MarvelousPhilly I like that idea, too. I do think Disney + is capable of doing a good Robbie Reyes series

[@metallicnole4514]

Eh I'd actually prefer johnny blaze. I wanna see the motorcycle.

[@georgeforeman8040]

@@metallicnole4514 im tryna see a solo western with clay, with tha horse

[@jonneff]

at 1 point someone asked Stan Lee who is the strongest. His response was something like this "Most would think I will say the Hulk... but Ghost Rider would most likely take the top slot."

[@just_a_rapperjetblack9556]

Can i have a link plz, and i know the one above all aka god aka stan lee created ghost rider as heavens strongest weopon.

[@DavonDepp]

The multiverse existed specifically so that everyone’s favorite character can somehow emerge as best somewhere. Just saying lol

[@andrewblack341]

Absolutely

[@parklez3250]

@@DavonDepp keep everybody happy until they start a war by saying which is strongest

[@zokomonofficial40]

@@parklez3250 which is strongest lol

[@morg775]

His power scaling is massive. In one story arc Frank Castile (the punisher) gets the spirit of vengeance, and then is granted the power cosmic as herald of Galactus. Later teams up with thanos but gets killed by the fallen one and resurrected by odin in the time period of his choosing, where he grabbed baby thanos and raised him. There's a lot more but in short thanos would rather team up as his equal than face him😅

[@Ellisdurell]

Great video bro. He has a cool name and super dope abilities. I love The Ghost Rider

[@alexanderhenderson2594]

Hulk scales infinitely with his anger, Ghost Rider scales infinitely based on how bad the people he’s facing are. Ghost Rider could beat anyone, but only if they are unjustified. In the comics when Hulk went crazy and was gonna destroy the earth Iron Man went to Ghost Rider to ask him to stop Hulk. Ghost Rider said he couldn’t help as Hulk’s anger was justified.

[@Magickiller13]

Why was Hulk's actions justified?

[@usevisine3198]

@@Magickiller13 Wasn't really justified (but we don't get to know that until later). In Planet Hulk, after a long, hard-fought struggle, his wife and his unborn child (though we find out later he survived) was killed and his city and its people destroyed by a bomb that he thought was sent by the illuminati. So he went back to earth for vengeance. He didn't really want to destroy the earth per se. He just wanted the illuminati. Per the comics, none of the illuminati are "innocent". So the Ghost Rider chose not to fight Hulk.

[@alexanderhenderson2594]

@@Magickiller13 go read the comics.

[@Uprising-rg4zi]

@@alexanderhenderson2594 no

[@alexanderhenderson2594]

@@Uprising-rg4zi Ok.

[@leomonk974]

Being extremely pissed off makes you invulnerable, ask the doom slayer

[@r3v3nant64]

lmao i was waiting for someone to talk abt doom

[@TilDrill]

people on twitter gotta be invincible then

[@ShortandWide]

Darth Sion says hi

[@rubbish_kid._]

Kratos too.

[@Zoxxies]

@@rubbish_kid._ Kratos is Nigh Invulnerable, But He’s still invulnerable though.

[@hollenfeuer1]

Thank you. I had zero idea how strong he is

[@Ascendment]

Ghost Rider deserves his own new movie and a big role in the next Avengers movie. Too powerful and interesting to not be utilized properly

[@Jawhet]

Imagine the pain of a "Penance Stare" from half of the snapped universe... Thanos: "I don't feel so good..."

[@kmodo93]

There is one cannonical method of avoiding that pain as well. Just ask the Punisher.

[@zoaero]

The more you kill the more you suffer

[@titan0292]

I don't believe it works like that the penance stare is basically to make you feel guilty of your sins but mcu Thanos truly believes he is doing what has to be done he will never feel guilt for it

[@goggle-head5901]

The stare is inconsistent, Punisher took it and didn't budge, later he got it used on him again and the stare worked.

[@captaindeadpool7174]

The stare is inconsistent and depends on what the writers want. In some cases the stare doesn't work on those that don't feel guilty of their wrongdoings and in some cases it did work. It's poorly written.

[@lorddrakkon9562]

ghost rider is a concept personified. he's the concept/"spirit" of vengeance. that's why he's so unbeatable and so immune to most things. Normal rules of our world just don't apply to him.

[@majintv24]

The hard part becomes writing someone like him as a character. If they're unbeatable then fights can seem to lack tension and you can lose interest. Use some contrivance to nerf them or auto beat them and that shows weak and lazy writing. It's really hard to tackle that kind of character so I think that he won't show up in the MCU moving forward or at least without some heavy power changes

[@casematecardinal]

@@majintv24 well eith thr ghost rider its pretty easy. The user holds the spirit of vengeance back just by being a free willed person. So that instantly creates several weaknesses to work with

[@deadboob]

Power for the ghost rider scales to how much control the person with the spirit of vengeance is willing to give up to it. More control given to spirit= more powerful the ghost rider. In turn though the person probably won't get control back for a good bit of time if they give to much control, potentially turning on ally's and such. If the person refuses to give any control to the spirit it will force it's way out and will try for a full take over any time it's let out a bit. Edit 1 In human form the ghost rider is supposed to be at his most vulnerable. One of the only times a person with the spirit of vengeance can die is when in human form. Human form =no fight for/ giving of control. Basically it means the rider senses no evil or the person is in no danger Edit 2 Oh yeah and separating the spirit forget that. If I remember correctly, the last time the advengers tried that the spirit started actively fighting them, at full control. Meanwhile Robbie went for a little drive in hell with blaze.

[@marcusmcneal7453]

@@deadboob If I remember right, nothing can really separate the spirit once bonded to the host unless it's willingly passed on. Not even Dr. Strange can do it. Even when the spirit leaves a host, the residual power is enough to still give the former host hellfire powers and extended their life span way beyond normal human life expectance.

[@deadboob]

@@marcusmcneal7453 basically

[@Ainkoe]

I love agents of shield and ghost rider was a awesome surprise !! Haven’t watched the last episode on purpose don’t wanna fishing off such a beautiful series

[@snoshio6043]

How was it? Did u bawl the entire episode like I did?

[@pheonix-1331]

An idea I just had, try making a power scaling video of a potential foe. The premise: what is an avengers level threat at this point in the MCU? How strong/fast/durable would they have to be? A perfect mission would have %0 casualties, acceptable losses %10, tragic loss %30, soft reboot %50, critical %70, all out/hail Mary %100 (but the avengers are able to defeat the bad guy).

[@MH-zg5yw]

Ghost Rider can only be killed by weapons made in Heaven or Hell. Hence the reason why there was no possible way they would put him in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. He would use the penance stare on Wanda and end her.

[@lin_kuei2099]

So Ghost Rider's weakness are holy weapons.

[@MH-zg5yw]

@@lin_kuei2099 "The Ghost Riders are virtually indestructible." After Zadkiel realizes that he was not, and never would be, the one true God, Johnny Blaze tells him, "Only God can make a Ghost Rider, Zadkiel. You should know that. And only God can destroy one."

[@randominternetguy646]

The fact that the only thing that can kill him are weapons forged in hell or heaven already makes him the most powerful mcu character

[@MH-zg5yw]

@@randominternetguy646 Just and FYI on the badass things Ghost Rider did: 1)Killed Thanos using the penance stare 2) caught bullets with his teeth 3) Rode a dead Celestial (After coming across the dead body of a Celestial, the Ghost Rider infused his hell-fire into its armor, powering it up and controlling it from the inside). 4) Ghost Rider managed to defeat the entire Annihilation wave with a single hellfire blast. 5) Created a Hellfire Explosion So Powerful It Destroyed a Whole Country. 6) the Hulk punched Ghost Rider’s face and it did not even move an inch. Ghost Rider was unamused and disappointed with the power of the Hulk. And to top it off Ghost Rider pissed on Thanos' dead body.

[@leonardomontealegre3284]

@@randominternetguy646 the living tribunal was shown in multiverse of madness so we know he exists. So he is as of now the strongest in the mcu

[@bronzeinkwell2590]

Ghost Rider wasn't in Endgame, cause he would just go right up to Thanos and force him to a knee, and then burn his body and soul into less than ash.

[@mobrien7211]

There is a whole comic story where ghost rider was a servant of thanos, he attempted to use his penance stare on him and it brought great joy to thanos to the point where he would make the rider do it regularly to make him happy

[@quajetae12]

@@mobrien7211 i read that cosmic ghost rider story. "I didn't say penance stare. I said PENANCE!" When I tell you my soul left my body.

[@forbidden_channelexe]

@@mobrien7211 We're talking the grape man from the MCU, not the one true Thanos

[@djfloofy109]

@@mobrien7211 tbf, thats COMICS Thanos, not MOVIE Thanos, which have different reasons for why they want to destroy half the life in the universe. Comics thanos did it because he wanted to impress Lady Death and just all-around loved bringing death. Movie Thanos did not kill because it brought him joy (though...maybe it did, but not the killing itself) but rather because Thanos wanted to bring balance to the universe so everyone everywhere would have more resources to work with. So maybe, MAYBE...the penance stare might actually just straight up destroy Thanos. Maybe. Im not 100% certain myself but I THINK it just might given how Thanos is.

[@sean-douglasroberts5150]

@@mobrien7211 maybe you forget that Ghost Rider beat Thanos

[@jean-pierrebenzenique]

thank you for specifically explain Robbie Rayes’s Ghost Rider, not Johnny Blaze, Robbie is too underrated as few people actually talk about his Ghost Rider version

[@MrMaKeMeDiNnEr]

Avengers: "We cant beat this guy" Random Exorcist: "Hold my bible"

[@noir.kid9724]

The thing I love the most about the Ghost Rider is if he's chasing you this scary ass skeleton that's on fire on a motorcycle is not the monster

[@Swagbastian]

True lol

[@rat161]

Monster how should i feel Don't worry the door is right here

[@justaguywithagoodphoto4801]

The fact that the real monster is the shit you did to YOUR victims is scary as hell

[@Julian-pw5mv]

Isnt that a quote from somewhere? I recognise that line.

[@craighofmann638]

Poetically put...

[@johnblaze5209]

“Your soul is stained with the blood of the innocent, feel their pain!”

[@yimsoyimchunger9522]

*Screams of horror intensifies** Ahhhhh!!!!

[@skullmighty372]

Howdy

[@MG-Raiden]

AHHHHHHHHHH

[@randomguy8476]

Black heart : " I have no soul to burn"

[@DozerfleetProd]

@@randomguy8476 : Sounds to me like the argument a post-birth "abortion" advocate would make.

[@kenhutchens513]

He became the Herald of Galactus as The Cosmic Ghostrider who was also Frank Castle The Punisher. Enough said. Look it up and read that storyline. He gained The Powers Cosmic. You have The Punisher intellect, tactics and sense of justice. The Spirt of Vengeance. Plus The Powers Cosmic. Ghostrider OP AF.

[@IRQ1Conflict]

Ghost Rider was my favorite comic when I was a kid some 40 years ago. Time flies.

[@geo6297]

Kinda sad how underrated Ghost Rider is. The guy is a straight badass

[@DioBrando-hs6ej]

He and Dr. Strange has always been my favorite Marvel characters, and is kinda sad see how little credit they have

[@biorgoanylchem]

He’s not underrated atleast not per comics but due to the shit movies sadly

[@DioBrando-hs6ej]

@@CelesQuinn how can i not know a character if i just said he is my favorite? What i meant is that its just a little selected group of people who trully knows how powerfull those two are

[@GeorgeWockington01]

@@DioBrando-hs6ej imagine being beat by Jonathan while he didn't even know what hamon was

[@DioBrando-hs6ej]

@@GeorgeWockington01 imagine being that one guy who missed the joke

[@haroldspahn6358]

I have always, my entire life, been a Ghost Rider fan. He is by far my favorite character and its good to see someone giving him some love. We could all use a little more Ghost Rider in our lives.

[@wcskeleton1388]

Me too my friend i would really like to see ghost rider on the big screen again

[@apollopartin5122]

@@wcskeleton1388 agreed, but after the last one there won't be a last one because he becomes a true angel and has blue flames and can heal

[@lordfrostdraken]

I share this exact feeling

[@gburner420]

@@apollopartin5122 you act like it can't recast, and rebooted lol. Just look at spiderman haha. 😀

[@lilricebowl9731]

@@wcskeleton1388 apparently with moon knight and blade shows coming out at some point in the mcu they might make a team with all 3 which would be cool

[@k.c.elliott7748]

I believe in the comics that Stephen Strange said that the spirits are one of the most powerful beings in the known world, the only thing holding them back is the human host's limitation. And since they can only be destroyed by the power of hell or heaven, they basically are immortal, not the host but the spirit is. I feel the MCU kind of downplayed just how powerful Spirit of Vengeance are.

[@hyperioxgamingyt3304]

Hes only appeared on a web series in some parts, and not to mention the low budget .. I can bet u bro when mcu is gonna launch him in big screens , he will be epic and we all would get to see what he truly is..

[@MARxBLADE01]

@@hyperioxgamingyt3304if Ghost Rider ever gets a proper MCU movie he better be OP as hell. Also better be a horror action movie!

[@Rocky-or4rz]

Loved the video. Yeah Ghost Rider was one of my favorite comics when I was a kid in the 80s. I always saw him as epic level powerful. I suppose he could go toe to toe with Captain Marvel. But I think Scarlet Witch could still give him a run for his money though. She has the power to change reality, I bet that could be effective against Ghostie. Maybe we will be lucky and Ghost Rider will show up in the Blade reboot.

[@jackgray2419]

In the comics, there was a storyline by jason aaron that revealed that the power of the ghost rider are only limited by the hosts imagination. Dr. Strange even called Ghost rider's powers boundless and god like. This was also the same storyline that retconned ghost rider's origin removing zarathos and replacing him with an angelic spirit of vengeance. It's a pretty cool storyline.

[@badomen6172]

What comic was this..?

[@kiko._.a]

@Leplivo yes i believe it's limited by howuch control the host wants to lose

[@ammardewata9901]

Wss there any avengers comic where ghost rider fought the whole avengers and won?

[@user-bl5iv7dw1o]

Then isn't he basically above Omega level

[@python1972]

@@ammardewata9901 No he's usually busy killing Lucifer or other threats beyond the Avengers

[@diegoviniciomejiaquesada4754]

There is an episode of The Fantastic 4's animated series where Galactus is attacking earth (nothing new)... They are having problems fighting him. The Ghost Rides appears and gives Galactus the Penance Stare making him suffer the pain of Billions of Worlds (Worlds Galactus Destroyed), Galactus is stunned and leaves. GR didn't even sweat.

[@Will-mk5pj]

I feel like Ghost rider was just chilling somewhere in a bar, walks out stares at Galactus then goes back inside to finish his drink

[@nokiagt]

sigma male ghost rider

[@EstrelSidus]

I remember seeing that as a kid and just being blown away. That scene made him one of my favorite heros instantly lol

[@vicbryanconanan9703]

@@Will-mk5pj 🗿

[@MeGaTrOnRuLeS1]

Holy shit you just unlocked a memory of mine. I remember that episode and even the watchet was there i think right?

[@spktrflashy8437]

Ghost rider x Deadpool, would be a duo in the mcu that could not lose, especially if we take some of the comic into consideration more then shows or movies, loved the video, got my day going good

[@chadhaynes3171]

On the last part of this video it showed Ghost Rider coming out of a cell you know he's the OG of that area when all the prisoners go back into their cells scared and willingly and they also show Mad Respect by going back into the cells and doing what they're supposed to to pay for their sins on her first

[@MrLim-wq2gn]

The Spirit of Vengeance is not Demonic. It operates as an Agent of God and is the Physical Embodiment of God's Vengeance and is the Manifestation of God's Wrath against the sinners

[@jacoblamberson2709]

Ghost Rider is like a Biblically Accurate Angel more than a demon so you're right in calling him an Agent of God. Someone has to do the dirty work.

[@skrischke9842]

Well that would depend which Rider you're referring to under the topic of spirit of vengeance. Remember that most people don't know that Zarathos isn't the only spirit inhabiting and transforming a rider.

[@flamevale4422]

The spirit of vengeance is of hell. Though it’s purpose is to eliminate any evil it finds, it is a demonic force.

[@flamevale4422]

Also Robbie’s spirit of vengeance isn’t actually a spirit of vengeance, though it acts very similarly as a vengeful spirit. I believe that in the show it’s legit, but I’m the comics it’s not.

[@skrischke9842]

@@flamevale4422 well originally it was the power to summon Zarathos but have control of your actions. Thus the reason the ghost riders looked like Zarathos.

[@-zeroistaken-2801]

We need a MCU Ghost Rider solo film, this man is quite literally an absolute fucking tank both offensively and defensively

[@charithkumar6911]

Well, a series would do

[@nandinhocunha440]

Nicolas Cage movie "am I joke to you?"

[@alexeastbay9256]

Nicholas cage in a bad British accent..."scraping at the door, scrapiiingg at the dooooorrr"

[@cryptidproductions3160]

@@nandinhocunha440 First one is an awesome movie that captures a great horror-western feel and has a hero you want to root for, no matter what anyone says about it. The second is kind of a mess because they retconned so much stuff in an attempt to make it darker and edgier, though I like the implication of the spirit starting to ascend back to angelhood in the end

[@MrMisanthrope84]

Let's hope he appears in Multiverse of Madness.

[@ephanh6926]

The MCU Director be taking notes

[@DiamondBatToons]

Keep in mind, this is only Robbie Reyes! Imagine the Power scale of Johnny Blaze, a Ghost Rider who is arguably way more experienced with his abilities.

[@BansheeKing22]

As well as having a true spirit of vengeance, the fallen angel. As opposed to reyes and the other guy who have the spirits of vengeful humans possessing them.

[@DiamondBatToons]

@@BansheeKing22 exactly! Reyes just has his dead uncle possessing him and his car. But Johnny has Zarathos!

[@nathanielalaburgDelhi]

​@@DiamondBatToonswait so there's multiple ghost riders? But just 1 with the fallen angel power?

[@torvarravenfeeder89]

I loved it when in WW Hulk Reed Richard's got Johnny Blaze to try and stop the Hulk. After brawling for a few minutes. Zathroz takes full control. Looks at Hulk. Says, you are justified in your vengeance. Gets on the bike and leaves.

[@TheDestineyAngel]

Thanks for pointing that out. I figured that since Ghost Rider is a being created on a principle such as Vengeance/Justice, that perhaps someone who is innocent or a beacon of virtue could negate his supernatural powers.

[@Will-mk5pj]

@@TheDestineyAngel I don’t think negate is a good word for it… its more The Ghost Rider judges them and deems their cause for vengeance just or not. Most people have a not so just view of vengeance. Hulk in that moment, was justified and so the ghost rider told him and left.

[@joashappalsamy6110]

Also take note that when Tony and Strange was watching the fight, Strange stated if the spirit was in control, he can beat the Hulk no problem. Since the spirit deemed Hulk innocent, he let him be. Also it wasn't Reed who got Johnny to go fight Hulk, Johnny saw Hulk on the news and decided to stop him, in which the Spirit of Vengeance protested Johnny's decision.

[@ok-jq1jh]

@@Will-mk5pj Well that but also, kind of impossible to pass judgement on TOAA's avatar of Wrath.

[@lancekemal8989]

@@TheDestineyAngel It's the same as in the cartoon where the Hellcylcle's flames wouldn't burn the Hulk so Ghost Rider realized he wasn't guilty.

[@DaSchmidtzel]

I wanna see Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider in an actual MCU movie with a big role or even his own movie. And I’m honestly sorta wanting it to be nick cage

[@kyrontokita4066]

We could have both in a multiverse

[@hanschristianhadison2896]

Everyone wanted to see the OG rider in action

[@kriegerh]

Oh God that's terrifying......... Nick cage not ghost rider lol.

[@garciaalexanderdean8728]

@@kriegerh yeah but nick cage looks to old now for his role as ghost rider Either they remake robbie reyes to fit in the mcu or they recast johnny blaze

[@turbo2656]

It needs to be cage

[@IlllIlIIllllIllIIIlIllI]

Ghost Rider is like the Punisher, except his targets are dealt with permanently and with haste.

[@bearsgarage272]

I still think the ghost rider is one of the most badass characters ever. I loved the robbie reyes version in agents of shield and Nicolas cages version was one of my favorite characters growing up

[@kjnava]

Ghost Rider's strength is completely limited by the host conscious. The two biggest scenarios that pop up in my head for when Johhny was unconscious and Zarathos had full control is World War Hulk where he just walks away from Hulk like his attacks did nothing to him & Uncanny Avengers where Mojo has them all mind controlled and Zarathos takes over and he takes on all of the avengers and basically calls Thor weak by saying "The might of a God pales before the strength of a Demon."

[@MrOreoMan313]

The fight between Ghost Rider and World War Hulk absolutely cemented Ghost Rider as one of the most badass heroes that follow his own moral rules. Before the fight against WW Hulk, the Spirit of Vengence told Johnny to not fight the Hulk, not out of fear but simply that Hulk is not guilty of any wrong doings by waging war against earth. (Long story short, Hulk gets exiled from Earth by Tony Stark and Doctor Strange, ends up on an alien planet, takes it over, becomes king happily married, wife dies in an atomic explosion of the very same ship that Hulk was exiled on, Hulk Mad, returns to Earth for vengeance). So when Johnny fought the Hulk and goes unconscious, the Spirit of Vengence simply took over and left Hulk without a word. Doctor Strange and Tony, who both were watching the entire time, simply reasoned that the Spirit of Vengence could have no doubt fought and defeated the Hulk but instead left because the Spirit did not see Hulk as the guilty one.

[@boydfaires6531]

The hulk' s strength is only limited by his rage. And the Ghost Rider's strength is only limited by the hosts conscious. Makes you wonder what would happen if they both went all out.

[@Zurr-En-Arrh]

@@boydfaires6531 you cant be angry forever

[@Zurr-En-Arrh]

@@boydfaires6531 you can see imaginary axis explain it how strong is the hulk

[@johnduren6476]

Zarathos wasn't a demon he was an angel of heaven. Spirit of vengeance justice. He was tricked and went mad thus we have the GR. Last GR movie 🎬 at the end Blue flames indicates Angel in back.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

It’s kind of wild how powerful Rider is considering he’s just from the network tv shows

[@KeyIssues]

Morgan le Fey is crazy powerful as well

[@meyatetana2973]

wait what? Ghost rider has been around longer then the network tv shows, he went and took on Galactus and won, his power is on a cosmic level and would have also flattened Thanos.

[@labida-badida8594]

@@meyatetana2973 i think he is talking about the AoS Ghost Rider (the one we are talking about in the video) and not comic Rider. Obviously, comic Rider is more powerful, but considering that AoS Ghost Rider can already scale-up to the likes of MCU Thor or Hulk is quite impressive knowing that AoS Rider only appears in a TV show

[@kriegerh]

@@labida-badida8594 meaning they deliberately left robby out of end game due to the fact that he's a one man avengers. Captain marvel would not be as cocky if the rider was in front of her and strange would just not mess with the bounty hunter from hell. Hell ghost rider probably doesn't need the infinity gauntlet to use all the stones.... That man be going in raw lol. Further more the rider seems to always be aware of any danger/threat so if he was there he'd probably be the one finding and holding on to the stones and just leave to another dimension preventing every thing from happening lol.

[@labida-badida8594]

@@kriegerh which sucks that Marvel had to retcon the shows pre WandaVision and not make the Rider canon. But then again, even if Ghostie was there, Marvel would nerf the hell outta him (kinda like what they did to Hulk), which actually makes me thankful the Ghost Rider isnt there. Lets just hope they get to bring the Rider in at somepoint in phase 4

[@onceyuju4743]

Love the facts!!

[@razgrizraven]

This video is interesting, it also brings up into perspective that Robby is a proxy rider as he received the powers from another rider, unlike Blaze and Slade.

[@casual_donut_user]

Fun fact, in one of the comicts were thanos kills almost evrybody to impress death the ghost rider is still alive because thanos cant kill him so he makes a pact whit him Ps you can kill the host but not the spirit, and since you killed his former host you get on his "to punish" list so you can kill as many host as you whant his going to keep coming

[@shmalexalex7102]

Has there ever been a Frank Castle/Spirit team up? That seems like such overkill but I would love to see how that would play out.

[@AeonsOfBlight]

@@shmalexalex7102 hellfire bullets..unholy shit that's dope

[@AeonsOfBlight]

@@shmalexalex7102 I have returned with new of Cosmic Ghost Rider. Frank castle makes a deal with the demon Mephisto in hell to become possessed by the spirit of vengeance post-Thanos snap

[@eemotion]

Sorry buddy, I only speak English.

[@felixtamola319]

@@shmalexalex7102 yes there was. It was punisher, wolverine, and ghost rider

[@_HiM_008]

Wow😮 you’ve got a sub

[@mrjosh92100]

I’ve been telling people for years that Ghost Riders power set makes him insanely OP very underrated character

[@Stepbrohelp]

Ghost rider is by far my favorite marvel character ever created. He’s severely underrated for how powerful he truly is, and he’s just fucking COOL

[@joekerr2348]

It pisses me off that they decided not to do the Ghost Rider show with this actor. He was the best thing on AoS.

[@cyphergaem5280]

Agree

[@killerbears]

Blame feige

[@alipohsem1781]

Yea i think he really suits robbie reyes roles!!! I don't mind if he is the ghost rider that will come out in doctor strange movie

[@ezav420]

he is my fav. aos character no doubt.

[@Human_traain]

This demon is actually a dope concept

[@TheRealDerek99]

I'd love to see the Ghost Rider be this in the MCU, but not actually be a major character. He'd be too op, but if he showed up occasionally, it'd be awesome.

[@carloscallins7846]

They might bring him up in secret wars or in kang dynasty who knows

[@briandouglasahern7067]

Let's not forget something vitally important when speaking of the Ghost Rider's abilities. GR's power is entirely supernatural. In terms of quantifying and measuring, getting a perfect bead on supernatural forces is next to impossible for anyone in the MCU except perhaps Dr. Strange. Even Thor, whose power comes from magic, has stated that where he comes from, magic and science are essentially the same thing. Remember in Thor 2: The Dark World, Jane Foster identifies the Asgardian "soul forge" as what we call a quantum field generator, indicating the connection between the two disparate worlds. But the supernatural is an entirely different thing. Supernatural forces tend to mean Dark Magic. That kind of power can defy comprehension to the uninitiated. When Fitz says, "That's not possible", according to his world of solid facts and figures, it IS impossible. The numbers don't add up. Because when you're dealing with supernatural power birthed in the bowels of hell, all the rules are broken. Why did a containment until that could hold the Hulk break apart for the Ghost Rider? Simple: The Ghost Rider wanted out. That's it. When dealing with the supernatural, all the math, science, and logic, if you'll forgive the phrasing, can go to hell.

[@urzafrank]

exactly

[@MINECRAFTandSEB]

this right here

[@rickyjt86]

This man wrote a whole essay with quotes and everything😂

[@Krizaey]

@@rickyjt86 yea thats how you add to discussion

[@rickyjt86]

@@Krizaey true and this mans speaking facts👌🏼

[@rabbit3828]

"The Spirit Of Vengeance", is actually an angel that got trapped in hell and lost his mind. He went completely insane. THAT angel, is the spirit of vengeance. I'd like to see a power scaling between Ghost Rider and Spawn, that'd be dope af.

[@cloudstrife4866]

He was actually the spirit of justice back then and now he became the zarathos the spirit of vengeance

[@alastor6143]

Ngl spawn probably gets his ass beat

[@wittwashere]

@@alastor6143 nah gr would take one look at spawn and pronounce him innocent then walk away

[@alastor6143]

@@wittwashere most likely I mean if they had to or if spawn attacked gr

[@eklypse0]

@@wittwashere Spawn was never "innocent". As a mortal, he was an assassin of next to no morality, before he became Spawn.

[@inspiredau5878]

Thor's Hammer is made of Uru, which is supposed to be the strongest material in the world. Stronger than adamantium, which is also stronger than vibranium. The only thing stronger than Uru is the destroyer armor. This means Thor could dent wolverine's bones.

[@carloscallins7846]

But the only thing that can harm ghost rider is a weapon from the god itself or from hell thor hammer isn’t made from neither

[@saliston]

Ghost Rider has always been my favorite. I love grew up with the original Johnny Blaze

[@shadeirt]

Ghost rider isn't not a demon. He's an angel who was tortured into madness then enslaved by mephistopheles to do his bidding.

[@omicron5128]

Angel of Justice

[@_Dimes]

canon comic earth-616 state that he was always a demon, never an angel

[@mythicnights]

In the movie, they say that yeah however in the comics the "spirit" is known as Zarathos, who is a Demon. He gets bound to Johnny Blaze which in turn creates the Ghost Rider a combination of their souls.

[@thatonememe1084]

@@mythicnights zarathos became a demon cus of mephisto hence the “spirit of vengeance” but it was originally a sort of god’s angel hence the “angel rider” being “the spirit of justice” as both vengeance and justice are similar but one is a little more on the rough side than the other

[@ravenmoon5111]

@@thatonememe1084 This is accurate. That’s why it became known he cannot be killed by heavenly weapons. God created Zarathos and only God can destroy him.

[@bornheemvisuals]

Johnny Blaze transferring the spirit to him was good, but I think he deserves to make in the MCU

[@kingmonde]

Yeah, hopefully they will cast a new Johnny Blaze, hopefully its Keanu Reeves so he does a movie or 2 and then passes it on to Reyes.

[@lancefisher8358]

@@kingmonde I can get behind that

[@BESTMOAD]

@@lancefisher8358 gues what " goku gets tye dragonballs" oh mighty Shenron make my soul invisible and not allowed to be tampered with" shenron: your wish is granted" goku stumps ghost rider with no worries of his hacks

[@Zurr-En-Arrh]

@@BESTMOAD whatt??

[@Zurr-En-Arrh]

@@BESTMOAD a soul cant be invisible either u dont have it or have it if u dont have it u die bc ur not a demon like creature not tohave a soul even tho ghost rider is stronger

[@apophenic_]

Pretty nice video

[@TAOSEELE]

I love Ghostrider and the Silver Surfer. I hope we will get movies with them, maybe even together, why not 😁

[@bitbreaker_creator]

There already are 2 movies with ghost rider

[@TAOSEELE]

@@bitbreaker_creator long ago and the quality could be better also not with the Silver Surfer, I would like to see them together, a fight between the two would be amazing.

[@bitbreaker_creator]

@@TAOSEELE ok fair

[@the_dread_wolf1936]

Remember when Ghost Rider annihilated Dr. Strange because of a misunderstanding? Or when he rode across the galaxy leaving Mjolnir in the dust? And the best part, he can only be destroyed by the one true God. This is the version I want to see.

[@notpinky9259]

Let's be honest any characters could kill the whole mcu universe with a plot armour

[@richard7199]

Ghost Rider would one-shot God with the penance stare.

[@nightowl7261]

The only one that can beat Ghost Rider is Jesus Fuc King Christ. So repent now!

[@richard7199]

@@nightowl7261 No. Ghost Rider would body Jesus for having the sin of pride. Jesus thinks he alone can save humanity from himself? Hubris.

[@nightowl7261]

@@richard7199 No. Jesus defeats all evil. Repent now my boi!

[@s0lice]

It was said in one of the comics that Ghost Rider isn't a demon, but an angel.... he also can't be killed by even Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet.... Read Thanos Wins, awesome story.

[@zacharymetzler1361]

Cannon story was originally: Zarathos the Angel of justice and God’s Avenger of sin is corrupted by the Devil and forced to fall into hell where he is reincarnated to do the devil’s bidding as a sort of bounty hunter of the damned until eventually he escapes after defeating the Devils warden- the Spirit of Vengeance and then Purging Mephistopheles himself. If I remember correctly some fragment of Zarathos gets left behind to allow for story continuation of the Ghost Rider

[@jackgray2419]

@@zacharymetzler1361 Actually, the whole zarathos being an angel of justice and god's avenger is not in the comics. That's the origin from the spirit of vengeance movie which is not canon to the comics at all.

[@thekramer1097]

@@jackgray2419 There's a whole story arc called "Heaven's on Fire" that reveals that origin what are you talking about

[@jackgray2419]

@@thekramer1097 I know.

[@8HellOweeN8]

Please go and read comics before spreading stupidity

[@cdurxn]

6:48 was filmed in Boyle Heights, Los Angeles neat didn’t notice that

[@Skeleton43]

Ultron with Vision's body and all of the infinity stones: *Interesting...*

[@GOD69_69]

Fun fact: Infinity stones, ultron had won't work on Ghost rider, due to well they are not Heavenly Made and currently They are Universal at best

[@nathanielalaburgDelhi]

Won't work

[@notwizardkingmlg2948]

I love how he didn’t even acknowledge the “Penance Stare” since its so fucking OP that they never let Robbie use it in AoS. Lmao

[@PSICaptain615]

That was Danny ketch .. No one else used it.... they were actually wrong as hell for giving it to Johnny blaze in the Ghost Rider movies

[@Aries_Reign]

@@PSICaptain615 robbie has used used it before nor sure if its gonna be a thing now but hey

[@captaindeadpool7174]

@@PSICaptain615 Every version of GR where shown to use Penance stare.

[@debojitrabha2502]

"He took out galactus with one stare" level threat

[@youtmeme]

interesting as he almost plays like a galactus type on that its a force of nature.

[@AsylumEscapade]

Ghost Rider has always been a favorite of mine. Remindes me of Spawn.

[@satcom6]

Love the vid (the "scaling" still seems like a bit of a stretch, but that's a Hollywood thing and this is about the MCU not Marvel Comics). That being said, ghost rider is MASSIVELY underrated (possibly equitable to the biblical "angel of death" if you were to "scale" a certain way). He portrays similarly to a demon (for a good reason) but he is righteous in his own causes even if they dont take into account the fate of others after the fact. Having said that, their is a very interesting and (at the very least monetarily exploitable) relationship dynamic between ghost rider, morbius, blade, punisher (seriously that's already a bad....ASSterisk cast) along with daredevil (read the comics, or at least Google some s(h)pit, (hear me out, venom as well as Spiderman and a whole host of characters both popular and unseen can be used/exploited for what could be potentially an "avengers level", "anti-hero" film). Just my thoughts. Thanks for the video. Yall have a good one and be safe.

[@chrisdooley6468]

Excellent video. Rider is one of my favorite MCU characters and I’ve often thought that the most powerful in the universe would have serious trouble trying to take him down.

[@KeyIssues]

Thank you!

[@johnathanshiggs7083]

The only character I can think of is another arcangel lucifer in the marvel universe.

[@AGBaconbro]

@@johnathanshiggs7083 isn't that DC?

[@lianaverwood9810]

@@AGBaconbro he may mean mephisto...or hellstrom.

[@princesuraj4840]

@@AGBaconbro Marvel has their own Lucifer

[@americanbuffalo7802]

And "MCU" Ghost Rider pales in comparison to OG Johnny Blaze in the comics. The best comic book series/character, IMO. In a "crossover" WHILE weakened because he was partially possessed by The Brood and having an internal battle to regain control, GR defeated the bulk of the X-Men at the same time and then, killed the massive Brood Mother by grabbing her tooth then pulling her skeleton from her own hide. And strength isn't even close to his most powerful weapon, which is his Penance Stare. Neck and neck with The Hulk for the most powerful non-ethereal Marvel character. And he's pretty much immortal as long as he's bonded with Zarathos.

[@americanbuffalo7802]

@carnage wow Same. I also found Gambit to be one of the most interesting X-Men/Marvel characters and think the MCU really missed out when they decided to just make him a temporary snippet in one film.

[@jamihart8208]

And they all pale in power comparison to the frank castle punisher ghost rider that also absorbs the power cosmic

[@Alec-go3ul]

@@jamihart8208 Cosmic Ghost Rider kinda pale compare to Ghost Rider KOH

[@g1jetfireandrainbowdash798]

We are all forgetting Daniel Ketch, the Ghost Rider who slew the devil.

[@boulaiy5870]

I recently finished collecting this storyline, one of my favorite crossover stuff

[@toxic_shr00m]

Amazing how the CGI for the flaming skull looks substantially worse in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. than it does in the original Ghost Rider movies

[@chxse8685]

Such an underrated mcu character

[@glyphhs5718]

Ghost Rider looks like me when I lose a game.

[@KeyIssues]

O_O

[@daspicy9450]

Cringe

[@glyphhs5718]

@@daspicy9450 stop discribing yourself

[@felipefloyd7107]

😂😂

[@floaty1015]

@@glyphhs5718 nah thats just actually cringe af

[@bub7771]

Johnny blaze was not the first to have the spirit of vengeance. He also wasn't the first to be called the ghost rider. The earliest known occurrence of a Spirit of Vengeance indwelling a human occurred in 1,000,000 BC, when a young boy belonging to a mammoth-riding tribe of early humans bargained with Mephisto to obtain revenge against a Wendigo who had slaughtered his people.

[@bub7771]

@@anibbana what ratio?

[@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia]

@@anibbana Cold ratio bro 🥶🥶🥶

[@amazeinrunar]

@@anibbana u got em 🥶🥶

[@TheGeorgeIsaac]

pls tell me this boy's ride was a Flaming Mammoth

[@lordofleviathans8432]

Please tell me there was a flaming skeletal mammoth

[@hoarderofduckies]

The comics had to nerf Ghost Rider so many times I'm convinced that he can solo not only the entirety of Marvel, but the entirety of DC Comics... simultaneously

[@DavinRaincloud]

I’m 46, so my intro to Ghost Rider were the comics in early 199os. He’s always been baddass.