How realistic is Israel's goal of eliminating Hamas leaders worldwide? | DW News

Israel has said one goal of its campaign in Gaza is to destroy Hamas, which is recognized by multiple countries as a terror organization. Now, the head of Israel's domestic intelligence service has stated that it will eliminate Hamas leaders around the world. Here's a look at what Israel has done so far - and how difficult it's stated goal might be.
For more on this, we talk to Guido Steinberg. He is a senior fellow with the German Institute for International and Security Affairs.
And we talk to Harel Chorev, Head of the Middle Eastern Network Analysis Desk at Tel Aviv University.
00:00 Intro and report
02:42 Interview with Guido Steinberg
07:46 Interview with Harel Chorev
#israel #hamas #idf
Subscribe: kzbin.info...
For more news go to: www.dw.com/en/
Follow DW on social media:
►Facebook: / deutschewellenews
►Twitter: / dwnews
►Instagram: / dwnews
►Twitch: / dwnews_hangout
Für Videos in deutscher Sprache besuchen Sie: / dwdeutsch

[@EamonCoyle]

The mindset is the thing that can never be killed. The attitude of the freedom fighter "I do not fear being chopped down in battle with the enemy, so long as I know someone will pick up my weapon and continue the fight" !! The same attitude of those who fought for freedom here in Ireland and that fight has lasted over 900 years so far.

[@user-wv9uy8bi8d]

Its not a fight for freedom. It is pure hatred and violence

[@julianwilliams99]

Freedom Fighters? Did you know that Gaza has a beautiful beach with great waves?

[@EamonCoyle]

@@julianwilliams99 And........

[@julianwilliams99]

Its not a prison. That's CAP@@EamonCoyle

[@EamonCoyle]

@@julianwilliams99 Clarify that because it made no sense !!

[@davidfromamerica1871]

It’s impossible to destroy the Ideology that is taught at a young age among the people.

[@cheshirecat7289]

Now guess, why it happens.

[@terenatua8433]

.. the actions of Israel's brutality radicalizes the young ..impunity on oppression and apartheid.. a dozen mothers were kidnapped by the IDF a few days ago and the kids left in the streets .. traumatized, scared .. repression develops - a resistance created when you have nothing left but to fight for your freedom. Gaza it's not an open air prison. .it's a concentration camp.

[@whatwhat3432523]

@@cheshirecat7289 why does it happen? What are you gonna say, that the palestinians lived happy lifes in their own country with their own flag, language, cities, government, and towns until someone took it over? lol.. if you think thats the history, you need some knowledge.

[@chlomoney6818]

at this point it’s not taught. Isreal has surely created enemies in this recent conflict

[@powasjington4262]

It might not be that the ideology is taught to them, but that they feel that way as a consequence of being attacked.

[@marvin9023]

He mentioned Germany and Japan... two countries who brutality got massacred to get them to submit...

[@mimikrya8794]

Hasn't someone in this conflict between Israel and Hamas mentioned the atomic bomb?

[@tonyrandall3146]

Probably Iran?@@mimikrya8794

[@crymeaariver]

[@user-ct7mw9yu6n]

Well they started the war and lost just like hamas so ? Sorry bro don't start wars which you can't handle

[@mimikrya8794]

@@kzgntosbaga6255 The comparison is missed. ISIL, n. Germany and Japan had expansionist ambitions. In this conflict Israel is the one. I wrote that in a separate comment, which I think is censored.

[@ropersix]

Germany and Japan after WWII aren't great examples, as it took years of occupation and massive amounts of reconstruction money and effort to rebuild them into peaceful nations--things I doubt Israel is willing to do, or let others do.

[@KDean22]

JAPAN AND GERMANY HAVE SPECTACULAR GENIUS. SAVAGE NATIONS DONT HAVE IT

[@DonXardas]

Except Israel did try it. But the arabs did not want peace.

[@abdi991997]

@@KDean22 The same savage nations that are responsible for the most death at any conflict/war in human's history

[@benitosalazar3749]

Actually those countries were pummeled into utter submission. The civilian populations suffered and paid a huge price for letting monsters run their countries and celebrating their atrocities. The same is happening now the Palestinians of Gaza. Peace will only be achieved if they collectively learn this lesson and stop waging wars they cannot win every couple of years.

[@MoMas7]

This war is how Aram uses to recruit for his team

[@robertpresha9504]

No there are too many monsters around the world.

[@alma09876]

"If you have to deal with the Monsters, then you have treat them as Monsters." - Pres. H. Truman

[@vonabod4259]

​@@alma09876Actually you need to be a monster.

[@angeodeleo]

Is Erdogan included?

[@garyclark6727]

that man is dreaming if he think's hamas will be destroyed,they will be there long after bibi has gone,which can't come sooner for me..

[@witnessdlamini]

I strongly agree any idea can be rooted out

[@jvm-tv]

I don't agree with the second analyst but it was good to hear what's the thinking on the Israeli side.

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: - If a Israel PM/Govt show a Map at UN - Palestine not on that Map - Bomb Hospitals,Schools,Mosques - Planned Extermination,Ethnic Cleansing,no?

[@JM-wm5uv]

15,000 dead Gazans and yet their elected Hamas government still prioritizes the holding of hostages. I guess that shows how much the Gazan government values its own people. Yet through all this, as recently as a week ago, a poll showed that 75% of Gazans support their government. The citizens of Gaza must also value the holding of hostages above their own lives; no surprise that their government does as well.

[@magatism]

Coz it's their only negotiating card. But you on the other hand haven't yet realized how the world has changed. The awakening will be rude.

[@user-bd8lu9id1r]

Do you believe after release of hostages Israel stop bombing Gaza?

[@Zeno7741]

Nearly HALF of Gazans are under 18. Your argument doesn't hold up buddy

[@GrandHuevotes]

@@Zeno7741 I doubt those under 18 are exactly fans of the west. The US stands with Israel. 🇺🇸 🇮🇱

[@AjithKumar-ih6sz]

​@@GrandHuevotes why has anyone has to be a fan of the west, your country is the exact reason for all the wrongs in the middle east Afghan. Before the American support for religious extremist mujahideen, Afghan was a very peaceful country, 1970s Afghan was liberal and women had rights and freedom, all those progress was lost because America supported mujahideen. Same in Iraq. You don't have any moral ground to even speak.

[@mathsrealization9469]

You cannot eradicate an ideology. This video is completely on speculation and based on whatever the idf says

[@hocuspocus6621]

So you kinda saying that the "civilians" who are dying in Gaza were going to be future terrorists anyway?

[@ciaracet0716]

"To eliminate their organization will only take a couple of weeks maybe a couple months"- 6 months later ...

[@timfify]

Netanyahu isn't just after Hamas.

[@untouchable360x]

“A man can be killed or destroyed. But if you make yourself more than just a man and become an ideal. You become immortal.” Ras Al Ghul

[@wafflefry18]

Nope.

[@test17email84]

Forget hamas. Gaza got max 3 months left of existence.

[@GaiusJuliusCaesarOctavianus-]

@@test17email84 the infrastructure maybe. The country’s and it people never

[@aaron.aaron.v.b.9448]

you can die as "heroically" as you want to, if the circumstances change, you might be forgotten. you might just mind your business, die for unfortunate reasons, and be remembered for some "heroic" feat you never were interested in. the last one is probably more rare, but people being forgotten or remembered for some ideas they never had is pretty much the norm.

[@JackIsNotInTheBox]

It's idea, not ideal. Get it right if you're gonna quote

[@biswajitdash]

It is not possible to kill an ideology but it's capability to take any action can be destroyed. One can have any intention but if the capability is not there, then they won't be able to do much. Hamas sacrificed last 2 decades of Gaza's growth into creating military capabilities, which will get destryed now along with civilian infrastructure and lives. If they want to rebuild the same again, another 2 decades will be wasted. They need to think another way to solve the issue.

[@eyeswideopen7777]

It doesn't stop west bank from being invaded

[@user-wv9uy8bi8d]

@@eyeswideopen7777 West bank belongs to Jordan before Israel. It was never invaded.

[@kth6736]

Zionism is also amd ideology and by your own words - it is impossible to kill an ideology. 😂😂

[@patience123]

Ideology can be killed with facts over time. The reason it hsdnt been is because of the lack of freedom of speech in these regions. If civilians could speak freely, those who believe these ideologies would start to question them.

[@mrmartin2079]

Can you imagine the intense security both sides are going to have to live under going foward - it will be absolutely horrible ( for both sides ) to live like that Unfortunately there is no easy solution

[@mn-lw5qv]

For both sides ? I don’t think there’s gonna be both sides soon

[@azharaz4140]

I don't think so ...

[@sgakm.manyida]

Buffer zones are created for hostile territories beyond them, not necessary if theyre cleared

[@ironknee6879]

Anyone who says (6:55) ISIS wasn’t a social movement, clearly never saw ISIS up close.

[@outback109]

Very realistic I would say.Mossad has a long arm and even a longer memory. None of them will reach a ripe old age.

[@jagannathmallik8056]

No

[@house15able]

Try to separate a man from his soul, Only strengthen his and lose your own, Brother Ali

[@Shineon83]

….You’ve been beating up on Israel for weeks now-Is there a “Time Limit” to German support for Israel?

[@CK-jo9im]

the second interviewee must have been speaking from his sleep.

[@yukil7]

For those who think Israel is bad. Where are the Uyghurs?

[@SurajKumar-wn9fg]

Most of them are living in turkey & qatar

[@UserAme99]

Is it possible to eat all the food in the stranger's food factory while pointing a 🔫 at the owner?

[@lisar5669]

A human life is much more valuable than a piece of land. This is something that Palestinians do not respect

[@BohoBeads]

Yeah, okay. So that excuses Israelis taking up more and more land? This is not just land. It's their homes. If there is anyone who doesn't respect land, it's Israel - look at the devastation to olive trees and water systems they have caused since the occupation? Please, wake tf up.

[@meiakrane]

Did they just called the hostages "human shields" in 1:57? That's worrisome considering that's what the non Hamas population of Gaza is called and there's no mercy on them. Well not that the Israel Goverment has shown much care about them so far.

[@vonabod4259]

They call them collateral damage too. And they are trying hard to eradicate them. With passionate support from West. Dehumanisation.

[@meiakrane]

@@vonabod4259 that's my point exactly, that seeing they're calling the hostages human shield it seems unlikely another hostage exchange or cease fire will be negociated. It just shows they're really set up to continue with g-cide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza

[@user-wv9uy8bi8d]

haha. from the news, israel cared more about the palestinians than hamas who bring this suffering to the palestinians.

[@kellymulderino7156]

this guy is clueless

[@harunorrashid6017]

Yes certainly it is possible but in dreams or in fiction or films. You cant neglect a population for years, and remain content that there will be no backfire.

[@kevinchen7403]

Leave it to DW to just randomly start playing footage of noisy armored vehicles and soldiers shouting right in the middle of it's guest analyst answering of a question. Couldn't hear a word he said for about half a minute...

[@umaiman3576]

Lets be clear here....

[@psmorgan2542]

The Arab states who cheer Hamas on should fund a transitory Arab coalition government with UN oversight

[@problemsolver3254]

the problem with that is there's no way to achieve this, America is already sanctioning Iran so there so way to exert more pressure.

[@psmorgan2542]

Iran isn’t one of the Arab states

[@lilacghoste8366]

​@@problemsolver3254America as an Brazil, Canada, Mexico and USA?

[@problemsolver3254]

@@psmorgan2542 ok sory.

[@husainali2429]

هل المطلوب من الفلسطينين ترك أرضهم. هل عدل؟

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

Just say by "Hamz " you mean ALL Palestinians

[@robmaslen6446]

This is like listening to a discussion about how the Afrikaaner government could have dealt with the ANC without dismantling apartheid.

[@ericp1139]

Nope

[@melodysong7010]

History shows, if the idea is bad and evil, it will be eliminated by mankind collectively.

[@marshalllapenta7656]

Funny how they brought those cards back! I remember meeting a guy a couple of years ago who was older then men. He was in Iraq, they would play cards with IRAQI most wanted playing cards. Question? What if this is revenge from Iran for the killing of their General?

[@0x0abb]

Let’s not forget Russia’s involvement in all of this.And - stop sending them aid

[@kenmichigwan234]

You believed they were in al shifa now their are in khan yunis

[@stephenholland4057]

Amnesty International reported in 2014 that Hamas was carrying out torture and executions in Al Shifa hospital. Hamas has run Gaza witj an iron fist since 2006 and embedded itself in all areas of civilian life including schools hospitals and religious buildings.

[@H-ws1lm]

​@stephenholland4057 that is not an execuse to kill civilians. You can say the same about any government or military leader of any country in any war, but it is still not acceptable to kill civilians and shoot hospitals.

[@anshadabdu]

@@stephenholland4057 No more lies, people want evidence.

[@saidasultanasumi5694]

Impossible.., I will stay away from these jokers who make those tall claim

[@johnvandommelen6998]

Even if Israel disables Hamas, there are plenty more unfriendly neighbors nearby...mildly put of course.

[@mdabdulkhalek7117]

How people can be your friend, if you continue occupation for year??? If you dream greater Israel evicting surroundings neighbours. However, Without big brother (US) Israel will not servive not a single day.

[@mf5514]

@@mdabdulkhalek7117 stop being part of the problem

[@mdabdulkhalek7117]

@@mf5514 True is true. True doesn't tastes good!!!

[@VladimirVladirmorvichPutin]

Wht gaza people are doing in warzone?

[@H-ws1lm]

What warzone are doing in peoples' homes ?? No safe place in gaza

[@conniekabasharira7084]

They're home

[@bombelz]

Ask Hamas why they hide between civilians

[@mirelleinisrael]

Good question, in Ukraine the borders were opened and the countries surrounding them took in displaced people, yet in this situation Egypt and Jordan, despite being of the same religion and ethnic origins, refuse to take the Gazans.

[@christerry1773]

@@mirelleinisrael the Pro-p's aren't concerned about open borders. The funny thing is in the US, they're all about open borders and people from other nations fleeing from their governments regime.

[@amegatorsmart9386]

DW TV station is compromise

[@josephs9451]

The questions of this channel which supports Hamas is about to know all the ideas of Israel government. Good job.

[@jeffreypamplona2310]

they cant but atleast they can control

[@anshadabdu]

No more lies, people want evidence.

[@kellymulderino7156]

no shortage of evidence. the issue is choosing to accept or deny it.

[@treza3150]

Macron said in almost 10 years isreal said destroy hamas until now she feild because why Isreal she was destroy hamas but she creates a new hamas in future macron and the political analysis said.when Isreal she airstrike how children to be opran that political analysis said

[@NgengeMkeni-uo5hq]

Eveidence is widely open to be seen, the problem is you who choose not to see iy

[@StrygwyrBS]

Plenty of evidence that you refuse to believe. There's no point asking for evidence that will not go in your favor.

[@newbie-r-usquestionsanswer7822]

Pro-Hamas needs to talk to the Green Prince “ the son of hamas “ to see the truth

[@christerry1773]

Haha!! are you kidding? They aren't gonna listen to anything he says, cuz they know he'll crush all of their arguments. He's also got an overwhelming sense of reality, those people don't' want to hear any of that.

[@christerry1773]

@@user-oq1bv6wc2b That's a given. My point is they won't listen.

[@lancewalters5544]

To many hamas in the universities and elsewhere.

[@Jono98806]

Okay, so what you're saying is that the IDF will reoccupy the Gaza strip after the war? I was hoping that wouldn't be the case. Rather put UN peacekeepers there.

[@xyz-uw3ps]

UN staff in Gaza are Hamas members. It's a corrupt organization.

[@Jono98806]

@@westeastman8388 I think that the UN has had its failures but the peacekeeper option is best one we have. I just don't know if it'll happen because of Israel's feud with the organisation.

[@tx9qr]

UN is worth nothing

[@TheCullousus]

​@Jono98806 that would interfere with Israel's plans to retake Gaza for their own.

[@user-rr2xz4ur9d]

100% Impossible.

[@vanessali1365]

Surely, it's a long term project. When an ideology no longer serves the purpose it'll died.

[@salehothman449]

Who's Hamas?

[@jamesjoseph8518]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[@nothing_is_over]

it's not an analysis, it's something ridiculous!

[@asgglass2709]

Guido Steinberg from the German Institute for International Affairs and Harel Chorev from Middle Eastern Network Analysis Desk says it is realistic to eliminate Hamas. This answer and the reaction from DW newscasters did not match. Especially the lady newscaster was so annoyed. DW has to accept their militant thinking may not resonate with the truth.

[@graemepenton5851]

You've just increased Hamas membership 10 fold

[@psmorgan2542]

Support for Hamas was already high, what option is there?

[@user-wi4rf4zb4u]

hy DW,, you forget turn off comment section,,, 🤣,,,

[@tonyrandall3146]

Do they?

[@MrWhitmen1981]

The question assumes that solution of doing what Rome did to the Carthaginians is not on the table. We don’t hear much about the ideals of a Carthaginian state these days.

[@YABBAHEY1]

They didn't possess cellphones in 146BC

[@user-yy5mu3qj9g]

Lady heart

[@umarrayyanu7235]

Hamas is the product of Balfour declaration except you revisite the plan and come's out with an idea of fairness, the system will only change to even more aggressive stand.

[@placeofvalue]

Hamas is just the flip side of occupation. When occupation cease, Hamas resistance cease.

[@epicbluerat9999]

Never gonna happen. They keep creating more future recruits.

[@annazfker2028]

... 8:00 THE BOTTOM LINE IS: ISRAEL DOES NOT CARE OF ELIMINATING HAMAS.

[@adolfost88adolfos95]

Is not rialistic to eliminate Hamas, because they have support from Palestinian people, and also in the middle east.

[@harrybaulz666]

Alotta fun trying😂

[@mahendradias1758]

As long as Qatar,Turkey,Iran and United Nations fund and patronize Hamas,it is very difficult.yes off course.Those powers are responsible for the sad plight GAZA people are suffering.If not for those powers,Hamas would not have done such ruthless crimes. What goes around,comes around.Feeling sad for GAZA people

[@magatism]

Israel is Ukraine 2.0. You merrily danced yourself into a trap.

[@JAGUAR230]

The New York Times too supported Hamas !🤨

[@afshaari8249]

In 1948..no hamas at the time..why there are suffering among palestinian?

[@monjurulhoque6164]

Why "west bank" is suffering???

[@Cindarful]

Well, I have a bad news. Israel also 'fund and patronize' hamas all these years. In 2019 the head of Mossad (under Netanyahu order) personally went to Qatar to beg =them to continue funding hamas. Before that, Israel directly sent suitcases full of cash to Gaza for years up until they got caught red handed by the press. Imho, Netanyahu himself is the number one fan of hamas.

[@terenatua8433]

" It's absurd to condemn a people who have been oppressed for so long, when they arise to resist " " to eliminate resistance, then we have to eliminate the oppression " - Miko Peled

[@NgengeMkeni-uo5hq]

Its not a resistance, its TERRORISM... Israel left Gaza 18yrs ago, what are they resisting?

[@psmorgan2542]

There are thousands of jihadi groups globally that have nothing to do with Israel or oppression. Hamas is just one of them.

[@guestguest]

@@kaipo8085the news just reported that they released over thirty Palestinian children from Israeli prison in exchange for three Israeli prisoners that were being held in Palestine.

[@psmorgan2542]

Also they’re continually under military occupation or military blockade because they’re waged continuous wars against Israel without ever conceding to peace. They haven’t managed 5 years without attacking Israel and the more land they get given back the more they use it for further attacks.

[@harrybaulz666]

All they hav to do is surrender

[@manruption7565]

So basically, let Hamas run free? DW doesn't sound so confident.

[@ferdinandpailas2833]

Poor logic by this guy... by his own words, hamas isva complex network of leadership, what makes him think that after they killed a cell leader nobody will take that position. After they killed thousands of civilians specially children, more and small groups will sprout... with more retaliation in the future... Israel planted seeds of evilness to the civilians of Gaza and it's a matter of time before that seeds grow and Israel will reap what they sow. God help the children of Gaza and Israel, they inherit these evilness.

[@MoD885]

The madness is the hamas will never die new generation will come it might go by another name than hamas but the same M’o as long as Palestinian’s are oppressed in there own home Israel will not know peace…

[@Eged282]

🇮🇱🇮🇱🦾🦾👏👏👏

[@HarryShares]

NOT AT ALL... BIG NO

[@shihabuddin7632]

But hamas accepted Israel as state.

[@kinngrimm]

As it is has already been reported, Israel Intelligence services had known the attack would come and informed leadership which in returned choose to ignore the warnings. How could anything not be seen as idle talk aslong the warmonger Nitanjahu is in charge?

[@eskutts]

Leaders will always be replaced by some others in the future, so unless Israel doesn't understand why they are being hated and attacked by the entire region, Israelis will never be able to live peacefully in that region. Also being surrounded by people of other religion, it is unwise of Israel to be in frequent conflict with its neighbouring countries.

[@princecommander5757]

There is only one reason israel keeps getting into conflicts (rather needing to defend themesleves in every conflict). Arabs refuse to recognize Israel’s right to exist. Palestinians refuse peace for that reason. What you say is wrong as governments who are sensible like Egypt and Jordan are allies with israel so have Bahrain and others

[@Khelaz]

But if you destroy what you created to be used as a pretext! What pretext would you play to make things look real?

[@sohailsiddique2555]

What about the IDEAS of Taliban, Iraq, Iran, Vietnam, ......??? Have u ever WIN...???

[@yukil7]

Are Taliban Iraq Vietnam capable of causing trouble now?

[@sohailsiddique2555]

@@yukil7 I am talking about Ideology...???

[@Famiabduletifnegeho-vv2rb]

100% Impossible..

[@melodysong7010]

Why do the Palestinian people support Hamas?

[@amegatorsmart9386]

Dw

[@w1113zuch]

Ламбада на граблях! 😏

[@bobellis2022]

Amateur slanted media …. Next

[@filemonyumul8168]

Perhaps Israel should stop focusing on the lowly foot soldiers and send their operatives to go after the LEADERS living in obscene luxury outside of Gaza

[@mf5514]

and you dont think that isnt already underway?!?

[@JackIsNotInTheBox]

Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Chorev. And ideas are bulletproof.

[@Exxperiment626]

V for vendetta quote?

[@alipac4779]

Dw genocise

[@VladimirVladirmorvichPutin]

ඊස්‍රායලය්ට ජය❤️🇱🇰🇮🇱

[@wahidhaq3516]

how primitive your thoughts 😂

[@ys8870]

@@wahidhaq3516said someone who follows a caveman cult 😂

[@darakhshanshahid5643]

You don't know about Islam?

[@amegatorsmart9386]

DW you cannot speak about Israel war crime nobody care. what we care is their personal interests

[@ireneginossar2371]

What about Hezbollah and other Iran proxies? Antisemitism is DEEEEP

[@christerry1773]

Pro-Pals = "Eye roll"

[@louistan7560]

Behaving like the US DOJ?

[@vonabod4259]

Still poking tunnels?! 🙄 You all have totally lost you ways. Feel sorry for ya all if you can't figure this one.

[@dario10espana9]

The Red Cross is more better analyst... Sorry...

[@safiul1930]

And they don't realize that they are wanted by God. Allah will not be Merciful to oppressor.

[@affirmationguy5758]

It is not possibel for Israel, Israel it self is in problem

[@maddatheist7254]

Dw is taking part in this Genocide

[@jaimegonzalez5271]

you can't destroy Hamas without getting rid of Islam in the region.