How Releasing Games Kills Piracy

[@Sizzyl]

the fact that this needs to be made into a 20 minute video and isn't just common knowledge is wild to me

[@タカトー年1998]

If a game is not accessible for purchase officially, why would I buy a used copy instead of pirating it? The money still wouldn't go towards the people who made the product but to some random person who bought it while it was available for purchase. At that point, the company behind the game doesn't care what I do. They wouldn't profit off of me anyway.

[@NottJoeyOfficial]

Even for current stuff, I buy used as much as possible. In that case there's still no difference, so it's funny to me when people treat modern things different from retro things in terms of piracy. If I'm not gonna buy it brand new, there's no difference.

[@タカトー年1998]

@ There are other reasons to buy stuff used. For example, as long as the product is readily available it's usually cheaper to buy stuff used. But the company doesn't care either way. They won't profit from your decision anyway. And at that point I'm not gonna waste my money on retro games which usually cost over 100 bucks. And if my money doesn't even remotely reach the people who created the game why should I buy the product used instead of just playing it for free?

[@GhabulousGhoti]

I think what frustrates me about the NSO subscription is that back in 2012, people were begging Nintendo to stop Virtual Console and go to a "Netflix-like subscription service" for their retro games. People thought I was crazy for saying that was a bad idea. Well now they did it, and you can't buy their old games anymore.

[@kolkagaming1234]

Yeah a bit of a bummer but that’s okay. A subscription containing a Huge Quality Library with no extra cost is a good method though. It’s better than buying one buy one. I’m been a NSO member since 2019 & I like the service. The online play performance is fine from my experience, I often use speedtest to experiment where my WiFi’s performance is at its best to avoid less lag. The NSO app on IOS/Android gives you voice chat & and more community content for some games too like videos screenshots etc. it also gives you voice chat since the switch doesn’t have a microphone. The Library of older games is awesome & there’s a lot of games for you & your friends to sink your teeth in. I often play Super Mario All Stars Mario Kart Super Circuit & Kirby & the Amazing Mirror with my friend. There’s a few extra Offerings for a few games. Although maybe Nintendo should touch on that again at some point perhaps. The subscription can be auto renewed by saving your Payment info under the condition that you are 18 Years old.

[@chillbizz74]

Blame those idiots for NSO

[@somagd64]

Piracy is not theft I cant believe anyone still thinks this its the developers responsibility to prevent piracy of new games all devs have lost to piracy is the potential of having a customer who knows if that person would buy the game if piracy wasn't available theft is generally defined as the loss of a physical good due to someone taking it without permission if someone stole a pallet of physical games it would be theft you cannot steal a file there isn't anything they lose by a person copying a file without authorization but a potential customer

[@ThatOneStarx]

Honestly I think it felt more like less of a belief and more of a "This is monetized I have to say the crime is bad" type disclaimer.

[@WannabeMarysue]

piracy isn't theft. copying isn't theft. a retro game is worth zero dollars, and anything more than zero dollars for a digital copy of a retro game is ridiculously overpriced.

[@タカトー年1998]

That's a pretty insulting statement towards retro games. How does this comment have 14 likes? Would you argue that the N64 Zelda games are worth nothing? Not even 5 bucks?

[@GaaraFPS]

@@タカトー年1998yeah I’m trying to understand this take, the only issue with these retro games ever retaining any type of price is due to the lack of preservation.

[@gamergod9182]

a game - or really any piece of digital media - is worth what people are willing to pay for it, which is entirely subjective. if you think that all retro games are worthless, then that's your own opinion. most people would disagree.

[@タカトー年1998]

@ 27 Likes by this point...how? I don't get it. Most people seemingly do not disagree with the opinion that retro games are worthless.

[@pvim]

"Piracy is a service problem" is a semi true statement in context with a good chunk of the world, visit any third world country and it quickly becomes a money problem, these are places where piracy has been the culture for decades and unless you are pretty well off you are introduced to it at an early age also stuff like regional pricing on any platform does not help it as it is at best mediocre, games cost as much as peoples monthly salaries. But then again those people were not potential customers to begin with so it doesn't affect sales either way.

[@BooneBluemel]

I recently bought far cry 3 on steam for very cheap. Every time I opened the map, the game would stop and try to connect to the servers, which are offline. This was fatal to my experience, so I refunded the game and pirated it, with the entire online aspect removed. No more stopping the game to try and connect to the offline servers.

[@pvim]

FarCry 3 has an offline mod which allows the Co-op content and other stuff to be accessible offline, but proper offline functionality has not been implemented.

[@BigDipLip]

Can you imagine how much better gaming would be if we had passionate, competent people in charge?

[@タカトー年1998]

Well, once upon a time...this has been the case. There is a reason why the market basically consists of either mostly modern flops, indies (which are most strongly retro inspired) or remakes of retro games. Because people who created oldschool games actually cared. And almost everyone instinctively feels this. Hollow Knight is hugely popular and in terms of gameplay it's basically just a modern Metroid game.

[@axilia203]

I'm afraid it's not something that's possible if money is a factor

[@aquapendulum]

A translation patch was recently released for Tales of Rebirth. Namco - now Bandai Namco - has stopped selling that game entirely. Heck, it was never sold in my region to begin with. I played Tales of Rebirth with that translation patch. I also bought Tales of Arise and Tales of Graces f Remastered on day 1 on Steam. You can fill in the blank.

[@Tiwill]

I always appreciate the crisp footage you use for 5th and 6th gen 3D games. Looks really good.

[@NottJoeyOfficial]

The price of Xenoblade on Wii dropped after the initial shooting up in price is because GameStop was being scummy lol. For some reason, they had the rights to reprint copies of the game. They decided to take advantage of the huge price by printing new ones and selling them as used for those inflated prices. People caught on to what was happening and the price dropped hard.

[@emilioavealr708]

Damn a video dropping at 1:30 AM. What a way to start my week.

[@Wesmoen]

As a west European, it was a nice morning surprise.

[@osakallaby3681]

Piracy = theft >I go and pirate a game 60 million times >Company losses 3.6 billion dollars >Company goes bankrupt Yeah I'm pretty sure that's how it works

[@WinspearUltima]

“If buying isn’t owning than piracy isn’t stealing”. I’ve been hearing this quote after steam put something saying your buying a license which I feel mixed about that. I would love to buy games if it comes available. And as for retro games I know many stores that I go and visits to get old and used games and even work at a retro game store too.

[@MashedStar]

not even a minute in and you start of saying piracy is theft. it isnt. its copyright infringement.

[@_Hero_Link_]

this. this exactly

[@Loki-]

If copyright infringement isn't theft, then AI isn't theft.

[@MashedStar]

@@Loki- That's legally the definition of piracy. You aren't stealing anything its just infringing on the copyright of someone else. Copyright shouldn't even exist at the very least be heavily modified in my opinion. And AI "stealing" isn't the only problem with AI, it's also the issue of wasting so much energy, getting people fired, taking our data and using it without compensating us and other issues as well.

[@タカトー年1998]

@ "Copyright shouldn't even exist" Well...there goes your credibility for anything...

[@MashedStar]

@ it's my opinion :P

[@theguyinthere]

considering I own most of these games and PT I feel blessed that i have these but man finding some of the PS1 games I grew with is insane. At my local game store they have PS1 games that they sell for from $90-$100 when i could go to the PS3 and get a digital copy of the same exact game for $6.......in this economy

[@whereswarren3719]

@2:01 Why do you highlight a current gen machine with all it's software (bar 2 games) available, as a target for piracy due to availability? Kind of a disingenuous example no? I hardly think the switch piracy scene exists due to Super Mario 3d All-Stars? There is an aspect of piracy no one wants to talk about, which is folks enjoying getting things for free. I purchase and pirate games depending on the situation, so don't think I'm immune to this or somehow morally posturing. It's very simple, if you want to get taken down by nintendo- do one of these two things; 1.) Host pirated materials 2.) Include propitiatory code or keys in your emulation software Modern pirates are just ruining it for everyone by being quite dumb about how they do things. Be smarter people.

[@Loki-]

You're right. Love it. Pirates are in shambles after this dropped.

[@RacingSnails64]

Hell yeah. Piracy is illegal, but it's also a production issue. People will GLADLY pay for games if they're simply available. It's more convenient, easier, and not illegal lol. Companies would make MORE MONEY MORE OFTEN if they kept their entire gaming libaries available for purchase.

[@pvim]

It is a money issue for a good chunk of the world

[@mongeeman]

I hope your channel sees fortune once more, man. You deserve it. The algo is fucking rough.

[@Kento21591]

So you’re fine with losing all the games you care about that you PAYED FOR ?! “If paying for a game isn’t ownership then pirating isn’t stealing”

[@RacingSnails64]

Two wrongs don't make a right. We don't get to make up the laws on the spot.

[@ricktheweeb5382]

I own the 3d all stars as digital and not physical media since the walmart was out of cartridges at the time

[@davidmorin2818]

16:25 I'd love to hear an explanation. Not that I can agree or disagree because I've never used one. It just seems like an odd hot take

[@jayrony69]

*pirates indie game*

[@Tribow]

oh you're _broke_ broke

[@underthetreeproductionsOffical]

Is Minecraft story mode being archived piracy?

[@ElNeroDiablo]

If it wasn't for "copies" of Mass Effect 1 & 2 on PC floating around circa 2013 that let me try the games before dropping my Dollarydoos on them; I would never have bought the Humble Origin Bundle 2 (ME1/2 on Origin & Steam), ME3 on Origin, the DLC for ME2 & ME3 on Origin, ME: Andromeda on Origin at full-retail *on launch,* ME3 and Andromeda at *full-retail* on their Steam releases *and* the Legendary Edition on Steam at *full-retail on launch.* Hell, if it wasn't for those "copies" I likely would never have found a franchise I love (warts and all, Andromeda) such I'm excited for the upcoming fifth game in the series. Being on a Fixed Low Income disability pension (that is below the Minimum Wage of about $20 AUD/hour), I have to either find "copies" of games that interest me before spending my limited funds, or pray to The Nine that I can get the game at a solid discount on a Steam Sale and go in blind to the game, because the Dollarydoo goes far *far* less than the Freedom Eagle does.

[@gamergod9182]

piracy may be illegal, but it is not theft. even Nintendo got that one right.

[@TheDaidai05]

Hmm... should I pay Nintendo a subscription of $50 a year so I can play a select few titles of nes, snes, Gameboy, Nintendo 64, Gameboy advanced, and sega genesis games only on a nintendo switch. Or should I download a rom of any game I can think of available for those systems for free, get to keep it forever on my personal storage, and get to play it on multiple devices that can run an emulator like a smartphone which is even more portable than a switch. I wonder... I always wished these companies would just give in and just sell roms themselves. It's really the only logical way to combat piracy.

[@BoxedWater123]

Copying is not theft, if I have it yours you have it too. One for me and one for you, that's what copies can do.

[@LevelLoreYT]

Love your channel bro

[@palacioestrella]

holy shit it’s the ai extension guy

[@LevelLoreYT]

@palacioestrella 😂 hey

[@Kethra430]

Like how you adress the gamers fucking it up with prices. Good video. Plus one subscriber

[@letusplay2296]

I basically never pirate PC games, because on Linux its just a better experience to buy them on Steam. Retro/console games? Its a toss up but I'll probably pirate them.

[@Harvald]

i’d argue that with lutris or heroic, if you know where to find stuff, the process isn’t worst than buying 50€ a game on steam

[@Wesmoen]

Afaik, I see people play pirated games on Steamdecks with no problems. You can force a proton/wine layer onto a game. Depends on the distro I guess?

[@Harvald]

@@Wesmoen nope you can do this with all distros, it’s a matter of packages

[@Wesmoen]

@@Harvald was rather talking about stability. As a Linux user myself, I don't get OPs issue.

[@Harvald]

@@Wesmoen there’s no doubt, for stability it’s better

[@Bargate]

19:55 That's most people in the KZbin comments apparently though

[@Main_Protagonist]

is piracy morally justified if the game is not sold in your region at all?

[@pvim]

just pirate whatever you want, no one needs to be concerned with your morality. Piracy is just about "getting free stuff" and preservation is a byproduct of it basically it's not that deep bro.

[@Main_Protagonist]

@@pvim idk i kinda conditioned myself to get greater satisfaction from playing legal copies

[@ianbowden2524]

Piracy isn't theft it's copy right infringement. Copying things isn't theft because nothing is lost. That's like saying opening up a book then writing down the words on every page at Barnes and noble is theft. It isn't but it's weird to do. But yes I agree. I don't pirate games I could easily buy and I definitely don't pirate indie games. If I pirate it's because it's too hard to access the original game in a convenient method that isn't riddled with issues.

[@whereswarren3719]

@4:40 You missed the WiiU VC version. Man you really need an editor that knows what he's talking about.

[@erc3338]

Idk I was around back then and all I remember hearing is that the 3DS version was "finally we can pay normal price for this game." If it did get released on wii u like Prime Trilogy, it somehow escaped me.

[@TheDaidai05]

Great video

[@sagemanomari]

i have a new super mario all stars 3d case

[@johndoe-is2fw]

Deleting pixels from your digital store so people give their money to someone else. Keep it up!

[@JEANS__]

Nah i just like videogaming for free. 2:27 if you say so... I dont get see the difference.

[@JEANS__]

20:05 developers don't get royalties. I don't care about publishers/corporations.

[@RacingSnails64]

Lol well don't be surprised if it ever catches up with you one day. I like free stuff too but I also like not getting fined (or worse) for more than simply buying the game would've been worth.

[@JEANS__]

@@RacingSnails64 I'll find a way to come back to you and admit I was wrong if that ever happens, I promise...

[@ThatOneStarx]

​@@RacingSnails64Well actually.. companies target the platforms people pirate on and not the people.... This is because they'd need to sue millions of people and it's just not really worth their time. Heck even removing the platforms isn't very effective due to how many people still make pirate platforms. Granted I'd never be crazy enough to make a platform for doing said action but.. you're fairly unlikely to get in trouble for pirating yourself. I personally don't tho.

[@joshwillcox7141]

For my last birthday I told my grandparents that I was saving £70 for a game and my grandad just gave me the money so literally right then I bought God Hand on ps2 for £70. Edit: Oh god the ps3 store! I wanted to buy the DLC for Burnout Most Wanted (it's called need for speed but come on) and I have it but it was the most confusing, tedious thing I've ever bought online.