How Roblox Went Down For 73 Hours

[@sirgamsay3596]

Imagine just doing a Hobby project to understand a piece of Software and suddenly the complete Roblox Infrastrucure is build on it.

[@AjaxGb]

Open source developers: "Hey guys check out this thing I built in my spare time! It's not perfect but I'm making it freely available so other people can learn from--" Large corporations: "FREE?? 👀👀🥵🥵👀👀"

[@JusticeNDOU]

i thought this was a joke,

[@xelspeth]

xkcd 2347

[@shantilkhadatkar1195]

@@xelspeth what is xkcd

[@michael_betts]

@@shantilkhadatkar1195 webcomic. type that text into goold and youll get the comic.

[@justliliandev]

every time I hear that someones hobby project caused a major outage somewhere I get the feeling that maybe big corporations should maybe check what software they are built on and support it's development/maintenance

[@fisch37]

XKCD 2347

[@humza890]

Except that software relies on another software, which then relies on another software, which then relies on another software.... It can turn into an endless loop

[@justliliandev]

@@humza890 it can't circular dependencies are usually rare and you can stop looking for dependencies once you've seen it. I also didn't mean, that every company has to look through all of their dependencies and maintain them all, but maybe picking a few or doing an audit of some of them every now and then would be beneficial to not only them, but the world as a whole

[@GoogleDoesEvil]

The Unix philosophy of "do one thing" and link against a ton of dependencies was a mistake.

[@bookle5829]

It's what FUTO stands for.

[@k4l1hm4n]

Turns out, this video could be a great introduction to modern backend architecture and development.

[@SrKinko]

I think all of his videos are a good resource for understanding different architectures and subsequently how fragile they can be lol

[@wangjiefan8939]

I worked at a global e-commerce company a year ago and their platform infrastructure is pretty similar, down to their use of etcd and go channel spaghetti 💀

[@百合仙子]

and a great counter-example for troubleshooting....

[@bounceysteve]

the leaks are too

[@c1ph9r]

the negative 900 million dollars hits hard 😭

[@_GhostMiner]

Why? Trash game has trash income

[@Luna5829]

@@_GhostMiner its not a game tho its a game engine and hoster

[@_GhostMiner]

@@Luna5829 **H O S T*

[@_GhostMiner]

@@Luna5829 ackhually

[@ducksongfans]

@@_GhostMiner plenty of trash games hosted on roblox, plenty of great ones

[@ccccy-o7x]

Hi Kevin, amazing content as always! One minor correction @9:54 tho: Go unbuffered channel's length is 0, instead of 1, and it means the sender will get blocked until a receiver receives the value. What the video @9:54 showcase is actually a buffered channel with length 1 (e.g. result of make(chan string, 1)).

[@ratm0]

"A massive company with ... -$924 million net income" 💀

[@klafbang]

"Each minute of downtime costs us negative $1750, this must be fixed ASAP!"

[@kosmonautofficial296]

@@klafbanglolol

[@Mempler]

That is absurd lmao

[@AlbatrossCommando]

@@klafbang So does that mean they were earning money when they were down? 🤔

[@LibertyMonk]

​@@AlbatrossCommandono, because they still had expenses (developers trying to fix the servers) but reduced income (no micro transactions available).

[@useruser-ti1og]

This is like the XKCD of all of the world depending on a toy project someone abandoned 10 years ago

[@imgladnotu9527]

probably 2347... as someone mentioned in some comment above.....

[@mrdabup]

I still remember the day that it went down, people were blaming Chipotle (american fast casual chain) because they had an event that same day where you could claim a free burrito. People suspected that it was due to a mass influx of people, I knew (and a bunch of people too) that this wasn't an issue with influx of people. At the end of the day, it was a fun journey (more or less with the conspiracies, guessing correctly that it went down for 3 days months before this outage, and youtubers just milking on the outage). Thank you for making a video about this.

[@frezzingaces]

Wait. How in tf could Chipolte's traffic affect Roblox's servers. Whats the theoretical connection?

[@baribari1000]

@@frezzingaces it was a sort of partnership between chipotle and roblox, so if you installed roblox and did a bunch of stuff you'd get a free burrito. I think that's what it was, roblox has done tons of these

[@fitmotheyap]

Oh this happened during that time? Man the memes about the roblox crashes during its downtime were so enjoyable

[@AwakeBalake]

@@baribari1000 Yeah, it was super easy too, you could do it in like 2 minutes on a new account, it gave you a free entrée instead of a free burrito, so you could actually choose most meals you wanted. The few times they did the event with chipotle, I probably earned like 35 or so free entrees, which is pretty decent!

[@argynews2825]

wasnt there also a massive adopt me update at the time which also probably caused a large increase of active accounts

[@theprantadutta]

This is one of the biggest challenges of modern programming, depending on various 3rd party packages, not knowing what that package is, what it does, or whether it's even reliable, and moreover knowing what are the dependency of that 3rd party package and whether they are safe or not.

[@Paulo27]

Also never update anything

[@juniorwmg]

*If its not a security fix ​@@Paulo27

[@tbuk8350]

Or HashiCorp, being a multi-billion dollar company, could just maintain the fucking project themselves instead of blindly using a 4-year-old abandoned pet project from some random person's GitHub page and trusting it to work in a large production environment.

[@ironcanon4920]

And that's before the issues of relying on additional 3rd party companies to supply the correct 3rd party packages. Supply chain issues the whole way down.

[@jacobp8294]

@@Paulo27 well you want to update everything as much as possible but not too much and with ready rollbacks on hand

[@yeetyeet7070]

github repo: "it was a toy project never meant for production" multibillion dollar company: "YAYEET"

[@Mihacappy]

"multibillion dollar company" _-$924 million net income_

[@Hiljaa_]

​@bruhmoment5974Free Palestine and long live mother anarchy 🏴🚩

[@tirushone6446]

@@Mihacappy it is a multibillion dollar company, it's just the multiplier is negitive

[@Mihacappy]

@@tirushone6446 i forgot i had even made that comment

[@tirushone6446]

@@Mihacappy you're welcome

[@BananasAintCheap]

It’s crazy how much of the internet as a whole is in the hands of solo developers who made a thing in their spare time for fun

[@Enderspearl184]

xkcd 2347 at its finest

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Half of them are furries

[@incognitoburrito6020]

@@thewhitefalcon8539 They're braver than any US marine

[@TheeSirRandom]

Imagine how it must feel, starting a free project just as a hobby, and planning to abandon it eventually, then pretty much half the internet starts using it as an important building block to support the web. Now you're just sitting there, and have a choice to make. Stop maintaining the software, and pretty much break half the internet or keep going, getting zero thanks, and zero dollars for your work.

[@Willimann]

the trick to this is option 3, make money of of it

[@efulmer8675]

@@Willimann The trick to that is finding out who's even using your stuff.

[@Willimann]

@@efulmer8675 yea, i guess so

[@blackmamba1261]

@@efulmer8675That’s not hard. Break it intentionally and see who complains

[@SomebodyHere-cm8dj]

Option 4: publish all updated versions under AGPL

[@yaakovwaxman4807]

This is by far my favorite documentary channel on yt

[@MaximumADHD]

Oh shit I was gonna suggest this as an idea, awesome to see that you did it!

[@0x7f2c]

Lol nice you're here

[@glefyr]

is that

[@use2l]

​@@glefyrhello call of duty black ops guy

[@superbobsaget9000]

Thank you for all the work you put into making this!!

[@CarrerasCorradosCoffee]

Crowdstrike video when?

[@animating_pains]

ive heard about that but i dont know exactly what happened so i hope he makes that

[@LitoMike]

​@@animating_painssame

[@i-am-linja]

I'd imagine programmer Hell is just a bug like this which takes all of Eternity to fix, also it takes down the company's internal issue tracker and communication system.

[@tekratek4077]

Nice technical aspect of the outage!

[@ski3r3n]

the kids enter angry the kids leave confused

[@shalodey]

IT global outage vid gonna go crazy

[@kabutopusu]

Abstain

[@pdlbackup]

Roblox players figuring out about the DNS steering and sharing ips for early access is kinda crazy 💀

[@sergelorenzvillasica2361]

Can't wait for the CrowdStrike episode 😀

[@michaellin7936]

Crowdstrike video incoming in 2 years

[@drdonk_auf_die_1_xd]

This happened in the middle of my friends sleepover, when we were COMPLETELY into Roblox. He pretty much just came to play it. We checked like every 5 minutes if it got better. We eventually just slept. THROUGH THE WHOLE THING Edit: Are some of you really watching videos on Roblox and just hate people in the comment section who used to like the game? Find something better to do jeez

[@3kh0alt]

Seems like you guys need to find better games

[@N30ZUK1]

​@@3kh0alt Isn't your avatar from a ripoff of Minetest?

[@Hellscaped]

@@N30ZUK1 minetest is a clone of minecraft...

[@tbuk8350]

@@N30ZUK1 Calling Minecraft a ripoff of Minetest is the most sweaty nerd Redditor thing you could do

[@dexahtheman]

@@tbuk8350 Tbh nothing is correct here. Minetest is not trying to be minecraft it's trying to be a general purpose voxel game engine (check out it's other gamemodes there's some pretty unique cool stuff in there)

[@davidslevs]

Roblox is actually a bigger company than most think. Thanks for doing a video on it.

[@andreyabrz]

Well.. now we know the next video

[@pompomaddons]

KEVIN FANG JUST DROPPED A VIDEO ABOUT THE HALLOWS OUTAGE OH MY GOD

[@jakfjfrgnei]

The burrito incident

[@pompomaddons]

@@jakfjfrgnei the slippery cord incident

[@levimatheri7682]

Waiting for the Crowdstrike outage video!

[@nebufabu]

Whatever it took to make a video about a Roblox server crash and not use the "oof" SFX even once... I salute it.

[@MartijnvanBerkel]

It's on 6:45

[@yeetyeet7070]

@@MartijnvanBerkel gottem

[@aze4308]

6:45

[@nebufabu]

@@MartijnvanBerkel I stand corrected. Frankly, using it only once is even more impressive.

[@vincentschumann937]

i read this 2 seconds before the oof sound played, well done sir

[@mortred4144]

yo when is the CrowdStrike video coming

[@_xord]

new kevin fang video today is a good day

[@pitust]

9:45 "A default channel can only hold one piece of data at a time" It's actually even worse than this: an unbuffered channel also requires that this piece of data is received before a send can complete (!)

[@Cmanorange]

daily appreciation of kevin's visual style, i love how you're able to break down the language i might take for granted and make it easily followable

[@randomazzy11]

5:04 I also heard avatars broke before the whole game went out, and some players were able to play roblox but most of the scripts were missing so it was pretty unplayable. Is it because the game couldnt fetch those? Wow

[@arnavn2554]

You gotta make a video about the CrowdStrike outage

[@patahgaming]

Saddest day ever for 7 Y.O i hope they can recovery from this 😢

[@bizzybapcrodie]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@gn2b445]

developers probably missed out on millions of dollars too!

[@Enderspearl184]

“3 days no roblox 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭”

[@keremino]

iirc i was 10 years old when this happened, roblox was the only game i played and i only had my moms phone because i was in a different city (it was painful)

[@tpglitch]

Thank you for this, been waiting for this one for awhile now!

[@asmith7966]

Haven't finished the video yet, but this already makes me feel better about the half-day internet outage I fixed at work

[@mahnibba2674]

Came here to look for crowdstrike, seems like im way too late🤣

[@TheGrimravager]

> And probably some machine learning and block chain for good measure lmao nice

[@MohamedAruham]

Damn I was waiting for this one

[@heyjakeay]

yo honey wake up, new Kevin Fang video to watch while at work

[@TheRealStevenPolley]

Kevin Fang, big fan here. Please cover the clownstrike incident

[@ChineseKiwi]

Kevin, get busy and make the Crowdstrike video 😂😢

[@Kieran28]

WHENS THE CLOUDSTRIKE EPISODE COMING OUT??? 😂😂😂

[@Aunarky]

I'm glad you made a video on that. I had no idea how it went down behind the scenes! :D

[@Komas19Gaming]

there was an blog post made after the outage

[@zenobikraweznick]

Amazing CGI as always, thanks !!!

[@darthmaul5413]

can you do a video about the current CrowdStrike Outage?

[@iqmal]

Great. Hopefully you'll make a video about Windows bsod due to CrowdStrike

[@matze489]

its a good day when there ia a new kevin fang video

[@NoobieNoodle89]

I love the way that you explain these complex incidents. You deserve a 冰淇淋🍦

[@Sam_Hue]

The Crowdstrike video is going to hit pretty hard

[@Viniter]

I love this series. It's like true crime or airplane disaster videos, but it can be fun, because nobody really gets hurt. Except for big corporations and Roblox players, and well... screw them.

[@hagangray8006]

That’s a bit harsh on Roblox players… I mean most of them are like 9 years old

[@absoultethings4213]

@@hagangray8006if they aren’t 9 there’s a 50% chance they’re a predator or another kind of scum

[@apersoniguess_]

@@absoultethings4213 or… just normal people. Big shocker I know

[@adityaramadhan1708]

​@@apersoniguess_impossible😱😱😱😱😱

[@enthuscimandiri1640]

unti money some rando get involved, yeahhh its really fun

[@rusprice]

Thanks! I submitted this in as a suggestion a while ago, never thought it’d be published.

[@No-day-off]

Let’s go bro. CrowdStrike is giving free material to your next video.

[@hdgrove5567]

Love these videos please keep them coming!

[@mwalton9526]

How fast can you pop out a video? I think there might be something video worthy.

[@warw]

Great video!

[@Dudex11a]

This video is very well executed!

[@ImTotallyTechy]

In life... you have roblox (another BANGER kevin fang video, cant wait for the next)

[@thecatmanager]

3:33 Roblox has a whole dedicated Fast Flag system including Dynamic Fast Flags which can be updated while servers and clients are live and will apply within around 10 minutes. The infustrucutre for this is quite interesting and you may want to touch on it

[@DrDrift-rl6cc]

Thanks mate, this is some seriously quality content

[@hasanpatel9029]

The oof sound was a chef kiss to this master piece of video. Great work as always.

[@Mihacappy]

Ah yes, that day in 2021 that i was working in Studio and the toolbox stopped working, and my ass almost had a heart attack because i though i got banned.

[@Core533]

Waiting for the crowdstrike video

[@vash47]

your videos are quality over quantity

[@LANless]

@12:34 BY GAWD THAT'S SUMMONING SALT'S MUSIC

[@caduhidalgo4996]

Baby, wake up! New Kevin Fang lore just dropped 🎉

[@siz1700]

Nice! I wish Roblox never recover from that!

[@Hopgop1]

Man I love your videos, this was a particularly technical one, but still really well presented and interesting.

[@poketopa1234]

Great great video, I seriously love the format and I learn so much

[@flokibyarian6832]

Thank you for the great information and entertainment video like always😊

[@Evercreeper]

YAY GLAD YOU DROPPED THIS

[@YEWCHENGYINMoe]

why do i like binging these videos so much

[@xFrednet]

Awesome summary, as always. Thank you! :D

[@passenger175]

Good work, these are both interesting from the tech perspective and just plain fun hah

[@mat-hu5ys]

love your vids! please make more

[@ibis8566]

these videos make me feel like im watching a some type of CSI crime documentary

[@christopherdaniel5580]

Very well explained. amazing content. Thanks

[@JustDeeevin]

Tons of love for captioning your videos❤❤

[@sg9257]

Your videos are awesome Kevin!

[@frosty4769]

the goat's back with another banger

[@blikthepro972]

"random program some guy made to mess around currently being used by the absolute market top of companies" is a gift that keeps on giving

[@ElioAllen-sb6by]

I like your stuff keep it up make more security related stuff!

[@sathyanarayanan4171]

Kevin fang post crowd strike?? Is he affected or sumthing

[@Ian-pe9rj]

I’m getting ready to launch my own web application and love watching these videos to learn what not to do. Thanks for making these vids they are very good and informative!

[@ishan6771]

Well done as always

[@brawldude2656]

These server incident always feels like a surgery where you have to save a person in its current form ASAP

[@thegammingbros6231]

love this video makes everything understandable!

[@bp9696]

notif gang wya

[@BeaStScoPesHD]

3 days to figure out that they turned on a bad feature a day ago is actually insane

[@Mrcabnet]

I wa sthe first person to play on roblox technically. I was the first person to play because of studio. When roblox was down i was sad and for 2 days i didnt notice that i had roblox studio opened. I had a map opened with cars and buildings. It was uncanny but awesome that i was the first person to play. I had footage on a phone and specifically galaxy fold 3 but the screen broke and i didnt upload the footage. I didnt have an avatar and i couldnt place anything that was free models or paid models but i still had fun. Knowing that no one else could play. Lesson i learned was to always keep studio opened.

[@3rdalbum]

Another great video, I really enjoyed it. There's probably heaps of outages you can do next, but perhaps you could do a video on the "OpenOffice can't print on Tuesdays" bug?

[@Jmcgee1125]

I paused the video when that perf screenshot came up. 5 seconds later I'm like "why the hell did nobody check this before?" We love lock contention.

[@gareth2021]

great video, thanks dude

[@transfo47]

I think my favorite gag in this video is the "San Mateo" label at 11:20.

[@H-E-S-C]

finally, a good video on the infamous outage

[@HarishDoredla]

Next video on Crowd Strike update causing global outage!!

[@ChineseKiwi]

It was Crowdstrike, not Microsoft

[@xSNJVideos]

Great video but why does it sound like an AI voice when you say "Availability Zone" at the end??

[@greatcanadianmoose3965]

Always love kevin fang videos... but would you mind using I Home's we're finally landing closer to the end of the video please? Thx