How Russia Ruined its Only Aircraft Carrier

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0:00 Intro & Background
1:26 Renaming the Carrier
2:15 Masterworks
3:33 Stealing the Carrier
5:18 Potemkin Village
6:25 The Issues with Kuznetsov
7:38 The Great Deception
8:39 Kuznetsov is NOT a Carrier
9:35 Why the Black Smoke?
11:21 Arresting Gear Problems
12:00 The Dry Dock Incident
13:26 The Mighty Tugboat!

[@NotWhatYouThink]

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[@thetube1855]

that was a really good cut to the ad ngl

[@namelessentity5851]

Not sure what this says of me but, if someone offered me Van Gogh's mummified ear... Hell yes I'd want it.

[@uss_liberty_incident]

You guys are scummy for basically selling NFTs.

[@tiniariana3620]

Monkey pox is growing fast

[@Janoip]

The more I look at the Russian Navy the greener it gets, how can you fuck up so hard. Yes, they have ships that are extremely well equipped on paper in terms of weapons, but here's another example. The second ship which was hit in Black Sea, presumably by Ukraine. Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate By 2010-2011, it was decided the Russian Navy will procure six vessels based on the proven Talwar-class design, mainly due to repeated delays with production of Admiral Gorshkov frigates and because of the urgent need for new frigates necessary for modernization of the Black Sea Fleet.[6] The Yantar Shipyard won the contract for construction of the frigates and three vessels were to be completed in four years. Previously, six ships of the same design, known as Talwar class, were built for the Indian Navy between 1999 and 2011 by the Baltic Shipyard, Saint Petersburg and Yantar Shipyard, Kaliningrad.[7] The lead ship, Admiral Grigorovich, was laid down on 18 December 2010 and was commissioned on 11 March 2016.[8][9] Initially, Ukrainian state-owned enterprise Zorya-Mashproekt was providing gas turbines for the Russian frigates,[10] but after the start of the Russo-Ukrainian War, Ukraine said it would no longer supply the engines.[11] Instead, Russian manufacturer Saturn was asked to supply alternative M90FR gas turbines.[12] Since October 2016, it was claimed the three incomplete frigates, Admiral Butakov, Admiral Istomin and Admiral Kornilov, that construction was suspended in 2015 due to Ukraine's refusal to supply gas turbine power plants, are considered to be sold to India.[13] The Russian Navy has opposed this export.[14] On 1 June 2017, the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) announced that it would resume construction of the last three frigates in 2018 and that the ships would later join the Russian Navy. The decision to resume the work was made following the preliminary testing of latest Russian gas turbine engines, the M70FRU (14 MW) and M90FR (20 MW, maximal 25-28 MW), designed and built by NPO Saturn plant.[12] With an access to alternative power plants, the ships were believed to remain in Russian service.[15][16] In December 2017, NPO Saturn has successfully completed three R&D projects of the M90FR, Agregat-DKVP and M70FRU-R gas engines held since 2014.[17] On 20 October 2018, however a decision was made to sell the unfinished frigates Admiral Butakov and Admiral Istomin to the Indian Navy under a contract worth US$950 million. The Yantar Shipyard in Kaliningrad will carry all necessary works to finish the frigates,[18][19] before they will be handed over to India in first half of 2024.[20] As of 2021, it had still to be confirmed whether Admiral Kornilov would be completed for the Russian Navy or potentially sold to a foreign customer.[21] Later in 2021 it was reported that she would in fact be sold to a foreign customer.[22]

[@DjDolHaus86]

The most important ship in the Russian fleet is the tugboat

[@koogleblitz8706]

Nah it’s the”battle tug”

[@Maria_Erias]

Heaven forbid if Ukrainian farmers start building tug boats. Russia will lose its entire navy.

[@catfwish]

Offensively.

[@alistairdiren5790]

@@Maria_Erias well technically most if not all of the Russian surface ships are built in Ukrainian shipyards during the Soviet era, so the way I see it is the Ukrainians are just taking back their stolen property.

[@MrDmitriRavenoff]

Offensive tugboat!

[@user-sy2jy1si8f]

The only surprising part of this story for me as a Russian is that they actually arrested that shipyard director who stole all the repair money.

[@roboko6618]

doubt he was the only person involved, just a figure head to take the fall

[@LPVince94]

@@roboko6618 Probably the only decent one, that wanted to put an end to it.

[@kolerick]

probably didn't give a share big enough to the man upstairs...

[@McBlammy]

@@LPVince94 That would suck - he turns out to be the only person in management not stealing things so everyone else just makes him the scapegoat 😉

[@spyeatte]

The money probably went for hookers and booze.

[@miketrusky476]

Imagine how well maintained the Soviet era nuclear weapons have been taken care of.

[@Itried20takennames]

Yeah….I don’t want to tempt fate, but I agree, and my guess is that they are all circa 1984, stripped of parts inside, and otherwise completely unmaintained (while staff checks off that they do).

[@gangsterwafflesthe7th508]

@@Itried20takennames i guess thats good for us in the west

[@aborecki]

Probably most of them are shit like all equipment in Russian Army however only few would be enough to make a very bad day in some places in the West.

[@miketrusky476]

@@aborecki more of a danger to the sender Than the target.

[@kellymoses8566]

Nuclear warheads need frequent maintenance due to radioactive decay.

[@LordZontar]

"Not having an aircraft carrier is not an option for Russia." It seems *having* an aircraft carrier is not an option for Russia either.

[@The_whales]

It’s what you call: land battle. The nation

[@mayaq8324]

Carriers are meant for terrorising countries on the other side of the globe, why would Russia need one

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

😂

[@Mordalo]

They have figured out that they are an incredible waste of money and resources. Especially for something that has a predicted survival time of 7.5 minutes in actual combat.

[@LordZontar]

@@Mordalo They figured out no such thing. It's simply that they can't do it.

[@chezsnailez]

Reminded of an old Soviet-era joke... Sergei Mikhailovich is struggling down the escalator at the Tsvetnoi Bulvard Metro station in Moscow with two very large and heavy suitcases when a man standing just behind him asks the time. Sergei Mikhailovich sighs, puts down the suitcases and glances at his wrist. “It's a quarter to six,” he says. “Hey, that's a pretty fancy watch!” exclaims the stranger as they step off the escalator. Sergei Mikhailovich brightens a little. “Da balshoe spasibo. It's not bad. Look at this,” he says and points to a time zone display that covers the 24 time zones as well as 50 major cities. He then presses another pushbutton and a voice says “Il est quatre heures moins quart à Paris,” with a perfect Parisian accent. Another pushbutton gave the time in Japanese. The man is amazed by the features of the watch and stands with his mouth open in admiration. “That's not all,” adds Sergei Mikhailovich as he touches a section on the sapphire crystal and a tiny map of the Moscow Metro system appears on the display. “The flashing dot shows our location by Global Satellite Positioning.” “You have to sell me the watch!” the man says eagerly. “Oh, it's not for sale. This is only the prototype and I'm still perfecting it,” Sergei Mikhailovich explains. “Look at this,” and he plays the FM radio receiver, shows the sonar device for measuring distances, the paper printout of data and, astonishingly, how to play audio recordings of books. “You have to sell me that watch!” the man pleads. “No, I can't; it's not completely finished,” Sergei Mikhailovich tells him. “I'll give you 50,000 roubles for it!” “No, no, it cost me more than that to make.” “100,000 roubles then!” “I'm sorry, I can't it's only the prototype and ...” “I'll give you 500,000 roubles for it!” And with that, the man takes out a wad of notes and peels of the amount. Since the prototype cost about 100,000 roubles to create and develop, Sergei Mikhailovich quickly calculates that with the 500,000 he can make two more and have them ready for the Russian market within just a few months. The man offers the money to Sergei Mikhailovich. “Come on, take it. With 500,000 roubles you’re making a handsome profit.” “Okay,” Sergei Mikhailovich pockets the money, takes the watch off his wrist and hands it to the man. The man straps it on his wrist and starts to walk away, “Just a minute,” Sergei Mikhailovich calls after him. The man turns around and Sergei Mikhailovich points to the two suitcases he was carrying. “Don't forget the batteries.”

[@davidanderson2357]

One of the longest jokes ever posted to a KZbin comments section. And completely worth the time to read it. Well done!

[@charlestonianbuilder344]

the set up was long but was great!

[@bobbyearl60]

Totally enjoyed it!

[@marcelosantana9311]

Worththe time reading. Great joke.

[@wiseoldfool]

lmao!

[@Mechaneer]

Hard not to chuckle about the fact that they repainted 6 planes 10 TIMES EACH over a short period just to appear substantially more badass than that were.

[@NotWhatYouThink]

It’s a smart move. You gotta give it them.

[@vivicohen199]

To Affluent Nerd: That repainting stunt had a touch of Charlie Chaplinesque genius!!!

[@frank-t6857]

The mouse that roared 😄

[@xpusostomos]

@@NotWhatYouThink A truly smart move would be building 60 planes rather than 60 paint jobs.

[@floydlooney6837]

and it worked

[@hudsonslim3169]

This ship was expressly designed with the ski jump launch because they knew aircraft would need to clear the tugboat's superstructure.

[@bjrnerikholster1058]

Ahahaha. Good one. This ship is the definition of a good meme.

[@acr98disc]

No, they choose it over catapult simply because it's cheaper. Russia doesn't really need it, an aircraft carrying boat, that's not even a carrier.

[@larryclemens1850]

🔥🤣🤣

[@Wyomingchief]

Best comment about a Russian naval vessel I've read in a long time😂😂😂

[@danielplainview926]

Carriers require massive upkeep. No spare parts, corrupt admirals stealing money, and you really appreciate how our nation maintains its fleet.

[@ThatPianoNoob]

Makes the gargantuan budget even more intimidating when you consider the fact that most of it isn't even embezzled..

[@BaalsMistress]

@@ThatPianoNoob America does embezzling differently in Military expenditure. Rather than directly stealing the funds, instead they are spent on parts bought at higher than needed cost from private corporations who then spend part of that money to contribute to the politicians that make the procurement decisions.

[@michaelmccarthy4615]

Corruption perception index

[@joedatius]

@@BaalsMistress its pretty smart honestly. its like parasite thats so adapt at taking what it wants while also keeping its host so happy that it ends up becoming symbiotic.

[@BaalsMistress]

@@joedatius Yup. The people controlling the corporations are there primarially because of their expertise in being parasites.

[@inurokuwarz]

"Not nearly enough time to wear out a Carrier's powerplant" Ah, but she isn't a carrier, she's a "Aircraft Bearing Heavy Cruiser"

[@hamzamahmood9565]

With a special road for taking off

[@VK-sz4it]

She is not she. She is he.

[@ItWasAnAccident]

@@VK-sz4it no. "He" is in fact she. They all she in da sea

[@stevencharnock9271]

@@VK-sz4it Gender neutral for special operations and not for wars 😂

[@HGShurtugal]

They should have called it a battle carrier

[@powerdriller4124]

In case of war, the USA Navy would hesitate on attacking the Kuzentov carrier; to sink it wouldn´t pay back for a single missile. Not to say that being a burden for Russia, makes the ship an ally for the USA. The tugboat would be a worthwhile target, though.

[@Leo-yr5jb]

Do not offend agent Kuzya, he has been doing everything he can to save Ukraine for 30 years.

[@backnforth8401]

by the looks of it, they should leave the carrier alone just to be a burden on the Russian Navy.

[@BarackBananabama]

The F-22s, littoral combat ships, Obama, and Biden are China's most valuable allies.

[@jeroboam4486]

The by your logic the Russians should abstain to sink the LCS and the Zumwalts !

[@dragonace119]

@@jeroboam4486 The Zumwalts are peices of shit you have to admit.

[@scipioprime69]

Imagine mocking Russia during a war by sinking its carriers tugboats just to watch the carrier destroy itself in the middle of the ocean.

[@baneh1329]

Hell Ukraine could probably destroy this thing easily

[@FallenKnightXIII]

US high command: Write that down! Write that down!

[@user-fm6py7fr5x]

​@@baneh1329 ну пока она уничтожает себя)

[@unicorescannacorner6999]

It‘s sad seeing that from the stuff you got from us after WWII (German), the US at least tried understand our Designs, then took our People under contract when they knew that they fucked Eugen up, and send her to be a Nuke Target. Instead the Russians took Graf Zeppelin and just torped it … not studied it. They did just scrap our stuff and then destroyed it xDD And now with their Paper and fake Tanks, Ships, and other moving Coffins we see the Result of 80 years of Stupidity! 😂❤🎉

[@alexius108]

@@user-fm6py7fr5x - tell that story to those 270 000 bags of muscovite crap Ukraine has already cleaned the world of.

[@Zoydian]

Long live the tugboat, the jewel of the fleet! If I had to choose between building a scale model of the carrier or the tugboat, I'd go for the tug hands down.

[@KuDastardly]

Even the tugboats has a higher value as a threat target than the carrier, lol!

[@user-fm6py7fr5x]

А уж какую ценность имело бегство ваше из Афганистана)))

[@deanpatterson9036]

​@@user-fm6py7fr5xas good as your time in Afghanistan, Comrade!

[@westrim]

The Soviets didn't need an aircraft carrier. They barely needed a navy, outside of sub and antisub assets for the nuclear age. In the end, military focused authoritarianism often falls prey to the most domestic of impulses: Keeping up with the Joneses

[@olegkosygin2993]

TAKR is less of an aircraft carrier and more of an aircraft-carrying dedicated anti-CAG missile cruiser. It's supposed to be the main offensive force in the squadron, a nice cheap(er) counter to NATO CAGs, rather than an equivalent. Helicopter carriers weren't deemed adequate anymore, but USSR indeed didn't need a true aircraft carrier. So instead, Heavy Air-carrying Missile Cruiser class was made.

[@HiroKiselyov]

The funny thing is Soviet tactics tank:is to bait their pray

[@someguy7723]

That and big ships looks cool and scare other nations. Its vanity

[@thalmoragent9344]

You're saying that a nation with such a large border with the sea... doesn't really need a navy??

[@kingssuck06]

Nobody “needs” anything except food and water. The United Stated doesn’t “need” a navy either but they sure as hell have one

[@harrickvharrick3957]

The fact they didn't manage to replace a broken 'arresting cable' in an hour, causing them to lose a MIG is mind boggling!

[@integratedhatespreader]

They had to order the cable on amazon that's why it took quite a bit.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

@@integratedhatespreader They should have. But we all saw what happens since they ordered them on wish instead :D BTW it's also mind boggling that they didn't have any aerial refueling capabilities. If a USN plane would run on fumes, they'd launch a refueling plane to keep it going.

[@harrickvharrick3957]

@@CakePrincessCelestia It's probably a good thing that they hadn't. If they had had a refueling plane it might have ended on the sea bed as well, making this disaster even worse.

[@isaned]

You can't fix STUPID. The stupid being Russia!

[@target844]

@@harrickvharrick3957 The right thing to do would have to declare an emergency and divert the airplane to an airbase on land. The carrier was close to Crete so the result would likely be a landing at a Greek airport. It would have been a bit embarrassing. There are reports that the captain hesitated and hoped the cable could be fixed in time.

[@ScoutSniper3124]

As a young U.S. Sailor I was stationed aboard the USS Ranger (CV-61), like most of the lower enlisted I spent the first 90 days aboard on TAD (Temporary Assigned Duty). I was lucky enough to be posted to the Officer's Galley. After a month at sea, the food the Officer's had was far superior to that of the enlisted, I was able to trade a Patty Melt for pretty much anything not nailed down, including some spectacular areal recon photos of a Russian Kiev class carrier. Those were the days.

[@HauntedXXXPancake]

Mhhhh, Patty Melt 🤤🤤🤤

[@jeff-hopkins]

Thanks for serving, Sailor. --It is because of men like you, that people like me an my family sleep well every night... Because we know that you've got our backs!

[@Harrington2323]

Russia had 6 Aircraft Cruiser, 2 of the Kusnezow Class and 4 of the Kiew Class. The second Kusnezow Class is in service under chinese flag named Liaoning and one of the Kiew-Class ships is the Indian flagship Vikramaditya. Two of the Kiew-Class ships are "attractions" in chinese theme-parks and one was broken up at Pohang, South Korea

[@jimlee7570]

Former US Navy here. It's not enough just to have a carrier and and airwing to park on it. Running a carrier is complex enough; now you have to add running aircraft on that complex ship, and operating carrier aircraft takes intense training of both pilots and ground crews alike. This is not something you just master after a couple of deployments and, for both Russia and China, that culture and the necessary procedures are not yet there. Hell, Russia can't even keep their carrier running without having to deploy a tugboat beside it in case of breakdowns. Both those countries are finding out that this sh!t ain't easy; the U.S., France, and Great Britain just make it look easy because we have been at it for longer than most Admirals have even been alive (seriously).

[@LS-jv9hp]

US and the UK just be out here styling on Russia. ezpz 😎

[@JamieTransNyc]

Add to that the fact that a carrier cannot operate alone. It requires an entire task force fully trained and supported: Cruisers, Destroyers, and Submarines, all dedicated to protecting the carrier.

[@aquilajedi]

Well said. An aircraft carrier is less a piece of hardware and more an institution with thousands or careered professionals, and a fleet to provide escort. Without which, a carrier is useless.

[@jamesflaherty59]

Russian Airforce is fairly terrible even when operating from a land base, never mind on a carrier they are totally useless and a danger only to themselves.

[@Schlipperschlopper]

Japan also did it during WW2

[@josephlongbone4255]

Carriers are extremely complicated ships to build and run, and everyone's first carrier is typically pretty crap. Early British and American carriers like Furious and Langley were "interesting" to say the best, but the 2 differences between these and admiral Kuznetsov is that they were about 80 years older and much smaller experimental vessels so that each respective Navy could get used to operating carriers before investing in much more capable designs. You really can't Skip Research and Development for ships like this; otherwise you'll end up with mistakes like Graf Zeppelin.

[@anarchyandempires5452]

The first Japanese carrier was actually pretty good.... The reason behind that is because it was basically built with American and British help..... The fact that neither of those two Nations saw helping Japan build what was at the time arguably one of the best aircraft carriers in the world as a problem is a bit shocking on retrospective...... The fact that this s*it keeps happening on the other hand feels properly human levels of retarded. I'm not even joking here the British gave the best jet engine in the world to the Soviet Union. The Italians gave missile technology to the Chinese. The Israelis sold a US/Israel designed lightweight Air superiority fighter prototype and all its data to the Chinese they made it the J-10. Etc etc etc..... I wanted to put more examples but I started to get a headache because of the sheer level of retardation.....did you know the Soviets gave the US military an APFSDS shell as an intimidation tactic...... Yeah they invented those and basically a month after they did so they send one of them to Washington to show that they had Superior tank technology than us, yeah their best technology and they gave it to us free of charge because they thought it would scare us and you want to know the most retarded thing about it.....we send them one of our new HEATFS shells in response to show them that we still had technological superiority, yeah our most advanced technology and we send it free of charge just for boasting rights....... I'm telling you this s*** keeps happening.

[@JarrodFrates]

Kuznetzov is technically the second carrier, with the Kiev coming first, if you consider the Russian and Soviet Navies as practically one. The Russians, and the Soviets before them, put their submarines ahead in priority, followed by heavy cruisers meant to stop American (and, to a lesser extent, British and French) carriers. Decades of bad decisions, neglect, and embezzlement has left the once proud Soviet Navy a rusting memory, with only a relative few seaworthy vessels at any one time, most of them ballistic missile submarines. Even those reportedly spend only a third of their time at sea, compared to the reported US average of 60%.

[@Icetea-2000]

The graf zeppelin was just never outfitted, for being an absolutely new carrier of a country it actually wasn’t so bad Its stronger armor and armament would’ve probably been more important than with other carriers too as it would not have as much support as allied carriers

[@josephlongbone4255]

@@Icetea-2000 it comes down to a failure of planning and doctrine. the Kreigsmarine didn't have enough surface vessels to escape the carrier so it needed a massive gun armament and belt armour whatever planes it was going to be outfited with, Goering made off with them into the night. Legends say he ate them...

[@Icetea-2000]

@@josephlongbone4255 *Kriegsmarine But yeah, that’s what I mean, it’s simply a different design for a different task, makes sense doesn’t it

[@pwk22]

Q. Why does the new Russian navy have glass-bottom boats? A. To see the old Russian navy.

[@jeff-hopkins]

Smart alleck! 😀

[@revolver265]

Update, it's falling apart so bad that they've found muddy water in the bottom of the hull and if they try to tow it from its current location to a proper drydock to get repaired (again), it might sink. I'd say "give up on this moneypit and get a new one" but it's not like they can afford to build a new one anyways :)

[@crabman2010]

No, let them keep it in dock and have it continue to be a money drain for the Russian government

[@lyndowling8179]

In the early 1990s, a U.S. Navy officer I knew was among those who went aboard Kuznetsov to inspect it as part of treaty arrangements. He said it was the rustiest, filthiest ship he’d ever seen, so much so that it was hazardous to its crew.

[@davidroosa4561]

imagine it 40 years later

[@quakethedoombringer]

Bet that guy went to the nearest medical station to get a tetanus shot

[@PrimericanIdol]

Oh. And US carriers must all be like ultra luxury cruise ships.

[@honkhonk8009]

@@PrimericanIdol Litterally yes. To be fair, considering the % the US diverts its military budget on Navy, Id say they basically are LMFAO. I used to play R6 with this guy who was stationed at Okinawa or smthing, and he was talking about how those ships are basically straight up vacation cruises lmfao. While their utilitarian as hell, they go through painfull lengths to keep that shit clean and maintained.

[@PrimericanIdol]

@@honkhonk8009 I wonder if the US would still be willing to go far out of its way to maintain its military prestige, even if it was in the middle of a Soviet style collapse.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

10:26 So you're telling me that rather than building a shore facility to provide electricity, the Russians left this thing idling almost nonstop for nearly thirty years? Holy shit

[@crazychase98]

Thats sounds like something russia would do lol

[@agresch9012]

Hence the black smoke. Worn out components plus massive carbon deposits on EVERYTHING from being idled rather than run at full tempo. Ever drive a car that hasn't been pushed past 3000 rpm?

[@Stefan_Dahn]

My brother bough a polish "soviet style" 1000 ha farm. Has of machinery was wrecked. No fertilizers on 1000 ha used. 1/3 of the land had not been seeded. Tractors overheated after 20 min, because they filled up the coolers with drinking water on a daily base and was clogged.

[@mrshinybald2739]

Coal power stations run for ages

[@boydgrandy5769]

The Soviets did the same thing with their famous Alpha class submarines with the liquid metal coolant stems in their nuclear power plants. Fast and deep diving boats, the coolant had to be kept hot at all times to prevent it from solidifying in the core and external piping. The ports where these boats were docked never had enough shore facilities available to supply the superheated steam needed to keep the coolant above freezing (Minimum for lead-bismuth is 125 degrees C or 257 degrees F) and all but a couple of them had plant failures. Constant operation of the cores meant very limited plant maintenance, with one reactor accident at sea rocking up the core and three others failing in port. Of the 7 built, only 1 served after the USSR disintegrated. They are all now great huge lumps of radioactive titanium tethered to an ice field in the arctic.

[@aidkik580]

This is such an easy problem to solve! Just tow it to and from battle with the tug boat and then use disposable airplanes, they take off, they do battle, and then ya just ditch em n grab another one, none of this landing and refueling b.s.

[@Stefan_Dahn]

Interesting. So a Ruzzki-Kamikaze launchpad. But then - the tug boat also from ruzzian "quality". 😉

[@ProfessorPottsy]

@@Stefan_Dahn it’s a “battle-tug” at that point cuz you know them Russians are gonna put some armaments on it lol

[@kolinmartz]

The only way to avoid bad luck when renaming a ship is by removing every single identity of the previous ship. This is why her sister ship after being renamed liaoning isn’t catching on fire all the time and requiring an escort tug. Every single piece of paperwork had to be swapped out for ones in mandarin and the whole ship got refurbished and relaunched under a new name.

[@kevinyang4149]

Or maybe it was the fact that China, unlike Russia, actually knew a thing or two about aircraft carrier-ing. That's not a compliment of China, but more a testament to how unbelievably shit Russia's Navy is. Hell, even India pulled it off with the Vikramaditya.

[@kolinmartz]

@@kevinyang4149 that’s the point

[@kevinyang4149]

@@kolinmartz Shit, yeah. Even India mounted a gigantic ski-jump on their ship where the P-6 launchers would be.

[@MondoBeno]

An aircraft carrier needs a massive crew with a billion dollar training. Never mind the helmsmen and engineers, you need air traffic controllers, a maintenance crew for each aircraft, a fueling crew, a firefighting crew, officers who know how to coordinate air assaults, and probably a lot more. Then you you need smaller warships to protect the carrier. Then you need a harbor deep enough to take such a huge ship. It's a mega investment.

[@AlbenianKomrad]

First.

[@joshuaashton1929]

Russia doesn’t have the money or infrastructure to maintain a modern carrier. Even if they did have enough money it would all get embezzled. Texas alone has a better economy than all of Russia. It says a lot about the state of the country.

[@jayl878]

You need an incredibly well-trained crew to fill the positions an a) airport b) Naval ship c) a small town. These are not the kind of things you want to skimp on like not haing deisal fuel. The ship is worth billions, the planes are worth billions, and the crew and their training are worth billions.

[@seancarroll9849]

Ironic, isn't it? America, France, Britain, and even China understand the necessity of not skimping on carrier doctrine and facilities. Heck, even Japan in WW2 knew the investment costs involved. It's almost like Russia is not capable of what it was used to pulling off. You'll notice that four of the countries I mentioned are parked and/or had a sizable naval presence near the Pacific; that's a lot of ocean. (Also, no one cares about Siberia.) I wonder why. (Sarcasm because we all know that reason.)

[@HANKTHEDANKEST]

Carriers are what nations with "fuck you" money buy. Russia building a carrier is like a backyard sloppy mechanic like me getting an old Maserati and trying to keep it going--not gonna end well, bud.

[@majalca03]

One of the reasons why it is so expensive to maintain a Russian carrier in operation is because of the requirement of a large fleet of escort tugboats.

[@R2F2Grapefruit]

These are no tugboats. These are tug capable battle cruisers.

[@Alpostpone]

@@R2F2Grapefruit Special propulsion ships

[@wolfgangkranek376]

So basically just like different types of modern ships of the US navy. They all suck and don't work properly.

[@majalca03]

@@wolfgangkranek376 Ahhhh.... no.

[@wolfgangkranek376]

@@majalca03 Ohhh... yes, yes.

[@matthewsheeran]

Imagine how well maintained that tugboat must be!

[@wilymcgee]

honestly, one of the better mini-docs i've seen on this warship, most articles are full of incorrect info. great job not only getting the info BUT SOME VIDEO as well!

[@kevinwebster7868]

I remember growing up and being told about the Soviet threat and later the Russian threat. Then I joined the U.S. Navy in the mid 90’s and was forward deployed to Japan. During our deployments around Asia we would occasionally come across Russian ships and I was shocked at the state of disrepair they were in. Their sailors never sober. I just can’t help but laugh at the fear we were trained to have. The only threat Russia poses in from nukes and I doubt those even work. Russia is a left over punchline of the joke the Soviet Union was.

[@multilis2]

Mid 1990s were weakest time for russia, russia is working with maybe 1/10 the US military budget, while UK+France+Germany spend several times as much on military as russia. Russian military obviously has big flaws, but so does US... US didn't do so well in afghanistan recently, libya is still a mess, ISIS golden age in iraq and Syria in 2014 were thanks to US flawed actions and to degree ended thanks to Russia's efforts in Syria. Russia has some of best air defence missiles in world, best anti ship missiles, their fighter jets aren't that far behind US despite tiny fraction of budget, etc... to a big degree that is due to incompetence in US rather than greatness in Russia...

[@multilis2]

"US Navy intends to decommission some of its newest warships" abcnews April 7, 2022... example of US incompetence.

[@kevinwebster7868]

@@multilis2 incompetence? Ya kind of. It’s more along the lines of becoming obsolete. The role they were intended to fill is just ended up not being needed.

[@kevinwebster7868]

@@multilis2 yep, and nothing has changed.

[@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123]

The Soviet threat was honestly more from the land and Europe, not their piss Navy. The Navy for them was more of a flex to prove they could build some ships that could fight.

[@Zizumia]

Classifying an aircraft carrier as an "aircraft carrying cruiser" is exactly what the Japanese Navy does to get around the rule barring them from having aircraft carriers. Sneaky sneaky haha

[@NotWhatYouThink]

Yes. We did cover that in a short 😉 kzbin.infoUFBkVR9TMTI?feature=share

[@Niitroxyde]

Since Naval treaties are a thing, bending their rules and finding loopholes have been an international sport.

[@Talashaoriginal]

No, these are flat deck destroyers. ;-)

[@dreamingflurry2729]

Japan could simply change that rule, but so far they haven't - but IMHO they will, the more aggressive China gets, the more they'll need a strong military themselves and they'll need to have the option to intervene should China attack Taiwan for example!

[@Zizumia]

@@dreamingflurry2729 Japan has changed their rules over the years but I think their reluctance to abolish article 9 is due to the fact that Japan doesn't exactly need to and article 9 was very much encouraged by the United States. Due to the US influence, the American bases in Japan provide Japan with defense that article 9 regulates. I'm sure Japan is like "why go through the trouble completely abolishing article 9 so we can officially have aircraft carriers and such when America has such carriers that she will use to defend us due to article 9".

[@dreadpenguinlord340]

"Our aircraft carrier is invincible!" *enemy aims for the tugboat* "FOILED AGAIN"

[@jeff-hopkins]

Smart Alleck! 😀

[@Tracy-xe9zu]

I remember the 2016 deployment, the memes were savage 🤣 I also remember seeing a pie chart of a cost analysis of that deployment, and by far the largest chunk was for "aircraft that crashed into the Mediterranean sea"

[@user-fm6py7fr5x]

А помнишь как вы с Афганистана драпали?) вот я тогда тоже ржал)

[@michaelpelzek8882]

​@@user-fm6py7fr5x didn't you guys leave Afghanistan aswell? And then it caused your union to collapsed?

[@user-fm6py7fr5x]

@@michaelpelzek8882 союз умирал 20 лет, Афганистан тут не причём. Но откуда вам это понимать) вы же думаете, что электричество живёт в розетках ))

[@Eatmydbzballs]

Wait, they spent a decade constructing the ship and by the time it was completed they didn't have the ability to suport it despite taking a decade?! HOW!

[@Mavve69]

It’s because Pablo

[@shivanshna7618]

It's like comedy movie

[@dabdillon6318]

Well you see propaganda

[@bullreeves1109]

To be fair a decade build time isn’t that uncommon for modern carriers.

[@westrim]

@@bullreeves1109 It's not the build time that's striking, it's the lack of preparation for when the build time was finished. Maintenance was not budgeted, escorts were not built or assigned, and so on.

[@ThePrader]

When I was on active duty as a naval officer, we really feared the Russian ( USSR navy ). But with hindsight, it appears that we didn't have that much to worry about. The "Russian aircraft carrier" is exactly the type of ship I want our enemies to have.

[@greyfells2829]

Their submarines are where the doctrine is strong. Moscow has always understood that surface fleets were the domain of the British and Americans.

[@ericsuarez834]

After Gorbachov everything went down, then with Yeltsin it just collapsed so things weren't updated at all for a while

[@Osmium2626]

@@greyfells2829 To be fair we keep saying "that's not where their strengths are" and they keep failing when their supposed strengths need to be demonstrated. Like with air superiority in UA. There is a very low probability Russia has any weapon comparable to western technology and having one that is superior is just unfathomable given the current state of affairs. USA likely knows the location of every RU/CN submarine on the planet.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@Osmium2626 Two factors 1) Russia has stagnated and atrophied significantly since 1989. 2) They've relied on a reputation and appearance of strength for ages meanwhile corruption was further undermining their ability to maintain a viable military, meaning they were lying to themselves about the force they actually had. The west on the other hand hasn't stagnated and has been planning as though the Soviets/Russia weren't bluffing about their capabilities.

[@zagreus5773]

@Greyfells Submarines are the domain of Germans and Europe in general. Maybe the Russians should stop with building weapons, they're all worse than NATOs. They should find something they're actually good at 🤷‍♂️

[@shanetonkin2850]

I remember when she sailed through the English Channel on the way to her much vaunted Syrian deployment, local newspapers were captivated by the huge cloud of black smoke and ridiculed the ship relentlessly.

[@jansenart0]

This was a great video, extremely informative! I've never before thought about what happens to warships when they make port.

[@pierce873]

A funny thing I heard once was “ Carriers travel with destroyers and subs for escorts, the Russian carrier is escorted by tugboats instead”

[@viviancrompton1920]

Seems like the most effective way to destroy the Russian navy is take out it's tug boats.

[@DiscothecaImperialis]

Nah. Russia has a penchant of using 'larger than usual warships'. They prefer slightly bigger 'Missile Cruisers' than Americna Counterparts. a recently sunk Moskva was one such example and Russia had to transfer another in the same class from Pacific here. this left Japan in a better situations.

[@pierce873]

@@DiscothecaImperialis Russias military doctrine just hasn’t caught up with the times they follow a 70s-80s doctrine that simply doesn’t work in todays times

[@arashitendou5941]

A very true statement If memory serves it a big reason Germany was unable to do a damn thing to stop Arc Royal’s air wing from disabling Bismarck Her Destroyer fleet pretty much ensured no one got near her A British friend mentioned some joke to the effect in their Navy like: During a mission, no one touches big sister Arc

[@bbvollmer]

@@arashitendou5941 ironic considering Ark Royal was the same carrier famously sunk by a U-boat... quite a prize for that U-boat skipper believe he got the Knights Cross on the spot

[@Scottagram]

The black smoke is not from a worn out engine. The ship uses a low-grade fuel called "mazut". It is literally the gunk left at the bottom of the silo after the good stuff has been taken out. It's basically a mixture of diesel and asphalt.

[@KasumiRINA]

Yeah it's like early industrial era ship.

[@jooot_6850]

Russia’s premiere carrier is running on the sh!t you find behind an Autozone.. nice

[@LMB222]

"Heavy oil" in English.

[@jellygoo]

Yes, that's what was said among other causes in the video.

[@kevinwynott7755]

Actually, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that they're just s**t boilers.....Mazut, known in 14:04 the United States as Bunker C,was used successfully by the Union Pacific railroad to fuel it's Turbine locomotives during the 1950s thru early 1970...... The only reason they stopped using itwas the Price of what was basically waste oul,went up to the point where it was no longer economical for use in the early 70s.....Up Til then,the "Big Blow" Gas Turbine Electrics were capable of anywhere from 8500 to 10,000 HP.......Not bad,for fifties technology....

[@henrybemis8913]

I was a stupid young jingoistic 19 year old who joined the USAF in the late 80s in fear of the "Soviet Threat". In High School I saw the movie "Red Dawn" with Patrick Swayze in the cinema in 1984 and was scared to death. Yeah...I am that old. I viewed Soviet Russia as Americas worst enemy who was poised to take us over at any time. I was convinced by the propaganda put out by the US Media that Russia was a great, vast, superior superpower that had the potential to take away the American way of life forever. NOW.....40 years later I realize that the Soviet Union was a "Paper Tiger" and did not have the capacity to invade the US and make us slaves. They could not even take over illiterate 7th century tribesmen in Afghanistan in the 80s. Russia is even now a joke as a "world power". They can't pour piss out of a boot without directions.

[@AFA315]

Well we hadn’t any more luck in Afghanistan either 🤨

[@LMB222]

As for Afghanistan, neither could the British or Americans.

[@beayn]

I grew up in the 80's too and I remember when I was maybe 7-8yo I was talking to someone about WWII and assumed the Russians were the bad guys back then too. When I was told it was the Germans I was confused because I loosely knew that Germany was on our side. All I knew from movies like Red Dawn and others was that the Russians were the bad guys to fear the most.

[@Comred1]

@@AFA315 Thing is, the US still conquered the entirety of Afghanistan. So the conquest was complete, however, the US tried to nation build, where there was no nation to build. They failed at that.

[@bbvollmer]

@Rob our objective was completed in Korea though... we stopped the North from invading the South

[@Strype13]

The segway into that ad was so smooth, I thought you were about to start telling us about a high-profile art gallery that was installed onto the aircraft carrier.

[@concinnus]

Honestly, I'm flabbergasted that she's even fossil-powered. I had assumed that the nation with nuclear-powered icebreakers would have a nuclear carrier, and I'd never seen any pictures of her or the Varyag/Liaoning underway to contradict that.

[@Schimml0rd]

That's something I never understood - as soon as there is a real war and the nuclear powered vessels get sunk our planet is hardcore doomed, no?

[@concinnus]

@@Schimml0rd I honestly don't know how a meltdown on a ship would play out, but if most of the energy goes into boiling water at depth, it will recondense instead of becoming fallout. I would also assume the US at least has systems to SCRAM the reactor as necessary, but the Soviets were never big on safety. Finally, the power capacity of a Nimitz carrier, for instance, is 1/20th that of Chernobyl, so the fissile mass is likely smaller by a similar ratio.

[@xn85d2]

@@Schimml0rd You'll get some nasty concentrations of radioactive materials in the seawater causing localized ecological disasters, but nothing on the global scale. Think of the Fukushima disaster in 2011 which had a 20km evacuation radius for an earthquake+tidal wave affecting 4 of the 6 reactors in one of the top 25 largest gound-based nuclear power plants.

[@leventekalman3224]

Fossil powered aircraft carriers are not as bad as you'd think, they're cheaper to run and the US is scrathing its head now on what to do exactly with the USS Enterprise for example. The UK is also a nuclear power and their brand new Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers are powered by gas turbines.

[@zjanez2868]

@@Schimml0rd nuclear reactors cant produce nuclear explosions, their fuel isnt rich enough(10-20% for duel compared to around 90% for bombs) The worst thing you could get is a steam explosion with radioactive fallout and even that is basically impossible with the ammount of security measures modern reactors have

[@bernadmanny]

Its next name shall be Baku. This is just yet another hilarious example of post-Soviet neglect and corruption. I especially like how they couldn't even be bothered to run an extension cable and a garden hose out to the ship for over twenty years.

[@WyldWolfDragon]

or a little bit of diesel feul for the docks back up generators because the dude in charge was arrested lmao for classic fraud, of course.

[@mnorth1351]

The US has never met the Russian military in open combat... but that's because we haven't had to! Russian corruption and stupidity does the job for us!

[@oldfrend]

nevermind the corruption - the whole project is a waste of money cuz in a shooting war it's doubtful she'd even make it out of port. the US Navy would think twice about sinking her because she's more of a burden to russia afloat than at the bottom. the money wasted on this ship would've been better spent on maintenance and training for the rest of the fleet, but that was always the ideological flaw with the russian military. all the money for glorious vanity projects, none for backend maintenance and training, so operationally they're virtually useless.

[@jhill4874]

@@oldfrend Makes me wonder about China's navy. A lot training time goes into proper subservience to the party and standing around looking pretty. The sister ship , Varyag/Liaoning, still needs to have tugs follow it.

[@xpusostomos]

Can you imagine the carbon footprint per shower or per meal of baked beans.

[@zephyr8072]

“Mom can we have an aircraft carrier?” “We have an aircraft carrier at home.” Aircraft carrier at home:

[@burlatsdemontaigne6147]

😂🤣😂👍

[@jeff-hopkins]

Smart Alleck! 😀

[@earllum9967]

I think it would be nice to say there is a commercial break when it happens instead of the video launching into the commercial immediately at 2:15. Great information as usual.

[@SNOWDONTRYFAN]

Apart from that relic now just being a symbolic feature , the problem for the future being that they have lost a whole generation of carrier operators due to its long stays in its usual spot, the dry dock !

[@xpusostomos]

Yes, I'm sure they've totally lost all working knowledge of how to run a carrier fleet.... if they even ever had it, which I doubt.

[@BaHy_23_01_2K]

@@xpusostomos This is literally the reason why the US has at least 10 carriers cruising around the world at any time of the day, so they won't become a laughing stock when shits hit the fan. Like what was the last time anyone heard of anything aircraft carrier Russian related, couldn't recall. The last time something Russian and big got into the ocean, it freaking sunk to the bottom killing everyone.

[@MadMax75th]

Never underestimate ur " enemy." That said. Sounds like more trouble than it is worth for Russia.

[@Maria_Erias]

@@MadMax75th "More trouble than it is worth" pretty much exemplifies the post-Soviet Russian Federation. After a decade of letting most of the military materiel sit and rust, they started pumping money into brand new designs with a lot of "fill in later" spots for technology they didn't have yet, or couldn't produce. This is how you wind up with things like the T-14, Su-57, and a slew of other "modern" Russian war materiel. All of the money wasted on those projects that have gone effectively nowhere could have been used to modernize and refit their stocks of existing aircraft, tanks, ships, IFVs, and other equipment, bringing them up out of the 1980s and into at least a semi-modern state. Instead, they blew money on half-finished projects with the hopes that some wealthy foreign investors would help fund the production so that Russia could actually start producing the models for itself. Except nobody wants to do that. Countries will either invest in tried-and-true designs (like the F-16) or come up with their own homegrown designs. Any country that would look to Russia for arms simply can't afford the costs to help fund the setup of the modern designs and will just buy surplus MiG-25s and -29s, T-72s, or whatever. And Russia is left sitting on stockpiles of war materiel that's about 30-40 years out of date, as the war in Ukraine is showing pretty effectively.

[@romanpul]

@@Maria_Erias This rounds it up pretty well. And in addition to that there is also the ridiculous amount of corruption in Russia. Most personnel in the russian army (from crew to generals) is stealing whatever they can or want to be paid off

[@JediMasterFO]

From everything I have seen and heard about Russia's military, I feel safe concluding that if Russia had put in the same level of care and effort planning and executing proper infrastructure as they put into lying about their capabilities, they'd actually have what they have been lying about having.

[@ralphm6901]

Don't forget that eeryone, from Putin on down, is stealing from the appropriations. Planning and executing is only going to work if some of the execution is of the people stealing the money.

[@256shadesofgrey]

If lying was as expensive as maintaining infrastructure, they would be the most honest nation on the planet, because then the entire budget for lying would have been stolen.

[@robertway5756]

💯🎯👍🇺🇲

[@ericsuarez834]

They are literally only been free 20 years, wth do you expect

[@JediMasterFO]

@@ericsuarez834 I can't tell if you are being facetious or not.

[@cascadianrangers728]

Makes me sad. This ship was once a super weapon, but they have thrashed and beaten her so badly she can't even leave port without a tug. Savages. Truly pearls before swine.

[@rickyspanish3668]

(Russian accent) In Russia we have no use for aircraft carrier, so we turn into party boat where we go drink wodka and dance.

[@LMB222]

That would be the best use of it!

[@tbaker294]

Back in the 90's we were over in the Med and were able to fly our SH-60B on board for a few hours (from our Perry Class Frigate). It was interesting; and odd to see the smoke billowing out from it. The ship looked terrible; crew was friendly. We called it the "Cut-nuts-off".

[@admatai07]

Lol "cuts-nuts-off" thats gold right there

[@protonvpn3223]

Should've offered to rebuild the carburetors.

[@Brendan200]

My dad served on uss elrod one of the perrys he was and engine crew man

[@robertway5756]

😆

[@eljanrimsa5843]

If sailors are superstitious, it must be the pinnacle of bad luck to use a renamed ship to attack the country where it was built.

[@crazybunny1134]

The "oh crap" moment a drunk one had when the ship went near Ukraine

[@krashd]

It would be but the ship wasn't built in Syria.

[@montinaladine3264]

That's a good point.

[@spvillano]

I don't know if it's luck or just some oddity in metallurgy, but it seems that every ship built in Ukraine that gets involved in attacking Ukraine suddenly becomes incredibly flammable. I wonder if it has anything to do with patches of the aluminum being made of torpex...

[@JeepITguy]

@@krashd No, but the Moskov was.

[@cathoderay305]

Wow, I was on an LHA (carrying Harriers) and we only had two boilers for propulsion and they worked quite well. The Russians needed eight to move a similar sized vessel and you've reported how unreliable those turned out to be. I think the LHA and the Soviet aircraft carrying cruisers were comparable. When my hitch was complete, the LHA's had 5-inch guns, ASROC, rolling airframe missiles, CIWS, M2 machine guns, and a complement of Harriers and Cobra attack helicopters to support Marine operations.

[@softwhiteund3rarm0r]

I feel so honored and enlightened by your videos. May good luck and peace be with you for all your days. And thank you for providing your special skills and knowledge to a free service like youtube. From the USA with ❤

[@eh1702]

I remember driving past a small airfield in Lithuania in 93/94. Half a dozen Soviet military helicopters were sitting in the long grass, left there since 1991 to rot.

[@elitex50]

I just passed through small town in a Afghanistan there is a cemetery filled with thousands of American and Russian tanks and helicopters.

[@asteroidrules]

Good chance they were left there for some time before then too. The Soviets and now Russians really don't do much in terms of equipment upkeep, when their kit isn't in active service it's left to sit, which means that when they actually do try to mobilize they find out that the tires have rotted, the wiring shorted out, and the gears have seized up.

[@elitex50]

@@asteroidrules did you serve in the Soviet Union?

[@protonvpn3223]

It was countries like Iran, NK, Libya and the like that benefited. If you had a briefcase full of 100$ bills, chances were that you could convince the commander of the base to sell you an actual submarine. You could've probably bought those Mils for a thousand each.

[@andrewthompson5728]

@@elitex50 I find that hard to believe, because if it were so, there would be a ton of workers from India and Singapore cutting everything apart and carrying it back for recycle.

[@keithnoneya]

As a Retired U. S. Sailor who's sailed on 4 of the U. S. Navy carriers this is just insane! Talk about about the ulitimate Paper Tiger that a lot of our enemies call us. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya

[@jeff-hopkins]

Thanks for serving, Seaman. It is because of men like you that my family and I sleep well each night... Because we know that you've got our backs! 🙂

[@keithnoneya]

@@jeff-hopkins Ah thanks Jeff I appreciate that. It does take a whole country to come together as a team, that includes civilians building the parts, oil companies and it's workers to produce the fuel and the farmers and many others to support us and pay our wages to do this Patriotic job for our family friends and nation. Thank you for all you've done for us as well. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya

[@KuDastardly]

it's funny how the Russian tried to prove to the US that they too can flex their naval strength... Only to have their rival help out and fix something on what was supposed to be their pride and joy flagship, lol!

[@andreyosss4352]

Best practice of Soviet Onion - fake it until you make it. Oops, it doesn't work 8-)

[@davisurdaneta1426]

Lmao @ "Kind a like Instagram but for countries" I had a good chuckle with that!

[@jgetscensored7837]

My favorite part of this carrier is how it can’t even launch aircraft carrying ordinance. It’s basically only good for recovering aircraft, refueling them, and sending them home.

[@jaylm4112]

So it's a fancy patch if dirt in middle of the sea... But! It has water ten minutes a day

[@AlexOnTheSide183]

But...It can? I mean , sure the amount of ordinance is minimal , but it was used during the Syrian conflict for some time. And again....Thats kinda its point. It isnt a carrier. Its a battlecruise thats able to carry aircraft. All it needed to do , like you said , refuel planes , maybe strap some light armament on them and send them on their way. Thats pretty much it.

[@williammacdonald3173]

It is floating crap

[@OddElephantLTU]

Basically. A su-27 with ordanance barelly takes if done right. They can't even put in fucking catapults

[@Greg-yu4ij]

My favorite thing was the badass tugboat. It is massive! It’s also a good idea. If a country needs to project power quickly, a tugboat, 2 long barges and a bunch of jet powered drones can make all the difference. With China amassing all those missiles, it’s better to sacrifice a couple of barges than let a single missile sink your carrier all because you got attacked with 500 missiles but couldn’t shoot them all down in time

[@infiniteechoes]

I laughed so many times during this story, so ridiculous and emblematic of Russian military... One of these days we will find out that they weren't lying about something and be shocked.

[@Metal0sopher]

So considering that eveything we've seen from the Russian military has been a lie, literally eveything, how many functional nukes do we think they really have? I'm sure they have some, but nowhere near the number they claim, or needed to go against NATO. Maybe one reason the nuclear threats have stopped. Their bluff did not work, and they know they've got next to nothing.

[@robinwilson2238]

We know the capability of their military just by watching they're failures in Ukraine.

[@johnbailey8012]

Hopefully, their nukes don't work either...

[@charlesachilefu]

@@johnbailey8012 I have a feeling you would personally find out very soon. Best of luck.

[@johnbailey8012]

@@charlesachilefu my own personal nuke!

[@specialandroid1603]

That carrier so desperately wants to become a submarine

[@happysalesguy]

The floating dry dock sank! I love it!

[@jeff-hopkins]

Would you call that "poetic justice" or "ironic"? 😀

[@asteroidrules]

There's a reason why the Ukrainian government sold most of the old Soviet navy that wasn't stolen by the Russians, including Kuznetsov's sister ship Varyag: they realized that upkeep was expensive and the ships were desperately in need of maintenance. The Russians have been quite literally sinking money into what remains of their ships to maintain the facade of being a naval power.

[@KasumiRINA]

Yes, and Ukraine, without any real navy, keeps entire russian Black Sea fleet at bay, invaders only using their ships to launch missiles and drones on our shops and schools from the shore. It's that bad.

[@bbvollmer]

@@KasumiRINA not surprising... not the first time its happened, the Argentines gave the Royal Navy quite a bloody nose as well, sinking 2 ships and damaging another. For a nation known for always having a powerful navy it was quite a blow to their power façade

[@koalabrownie]

@@bbvollmer That's nothing new. Destroyers are so-called because they were built to destroy torpedo boats, a ship which a small nation could use to sink the ships of the line that Britain would field. The 19th century french Jeune Ecole naval strategy was centered entirely around these sort of tactics. But now instead of solely torpedoes, ship killing missiles play a role- and destroyers & Frigates, like those lost in the Falklands, will bear the brunt of the defense.

[@user-fm6py7fr5x]

​@@KasumiRINA ахаха, иди свинью люби хохол)) в страхе он держит)))

[@poopyickydoodooobama09]

@@KasumiRINAgonna ignore how the US killed millions of iraqis and afghans while ruining the entire region for generations?

[@Kaiserboo1871]

It seems to me that Russia really is the true successor of the Soviet Union. Including the fact that the Russian military suffers from the same exact problems as the Soviet military did.

[@bighands69]

Russia does not have a proper functioning economy. The culture does not reward creativity and entrepreneurship. Most successful people have to flee the Russia for places like London and New York. London is full of wealthy Russians who escaped.

[@asteroidrules]

@@bighands69 The truest sign of success in Russia is the ability to leave Russia.

[@olliefoxx7165]

@@bighands69 Russia has everything it needs to be self sufficient. It's economy has taken the most severe sanctions ever imposed on a nation and the ruble is as strong as it was before the sanctions. Look at the economy of Western nations. Record inflation, cost of living is rising higher while wages stagnate. We are approaching a major economic depression while Russia is set to thrive.

[@alicorn3924]

@@olliefoxx7165 ok, but we have gaming :leaves: :no elaboration:

[@TheInfamousMrFox]

@@bighands69 Both New York and London have larger economies than 3rd world neo-fascist ruSSia.

[@kbnaviation8740]

6:34 Guy near the bottom of the screen drops his hat and falls.

[@DonPayne-vt9rq]

You did it. I finally subscribed. You bring the details, I like that.👍

[@Neion8]

*"Hey guys, so we want to project power and still look like the superpower we appeared to be after WW2, any ideas?"* _"What about we look at the most powerful navy in the world - the USN - and copy their ideas?"_ *"Great idea! We will of course not be so crude as to imitate our rivals in any way, but we may independently arrive at the same conclusions as them. So, what will we need to do?"* _"Well, we need aircraft carriers, but we need to make sure we build at least 2 (ideally 3) - so while 1 is in operation, the other is being repaired/retrained - that way we can maintain a constant presence on the ocean without the aircraft carrier turning into a rusted hulk. We'll also need to build some bigass dockyards to accomidate these much larger vessels"_ *"Okay, so that sounds expensive. What about we only build 1 of them and then never properly fix it's issues because there'll be pressure to keep face?"* _"Comerade, did you even lis-_ *"It's genius! If we aren't repairing it we don't need to build new dockyards either, which saves us *lots* of money... I shall inform the Kremelin at once! We'll make Russia's navy as great as it used to be!!"*

[@Leo-yr5jb]

There were 2 of them, the 2nd now in China. Putin asked the Chinese to repair his aircraft carrier. They just laughed. As with the Chinese space station. Putin asked to change the orbit so that the Russians could fly there, the Chinese ignored it, although their station is a copy of the Soviet station.

[@spvillano]

@@Leo-yr5jb the carrier was sold for other usage, which was really a shell game to get it to China. Had to laugh, given how transparent the entire thing was, but it worked and they got the hull and completed the carrier. Now, to see how well or if they fixed deficits and modernized anything in the design. I am willing to bet that it won't smoke like it's afire though.

[@fearthehoneybadger]

Kiev has confused experts as to classing the vessel. It's been called everything from an aircraft carrier to an antisubmarine cruiser.

[@thetau4866]

Its a Heavy Aircraft Carrying Cruiser

[@mis4nthr0p3]

And they're now calling the Moskva a reef.

[@jammydodgerman]

@@mis4nthr0p3 Glorious Russian Reef Operation

[@xpusostomos]

I can see a future for her as a submarine, to do missions with the Moskva.

[@KB4QAA]

No confusion. It has always been classified as a cruiser.

[@TheTimppis]

Tug boat Nikolaj Checker is buily in Finlan in late 80 s. Still working...

[@albertmarsh1796]

This is the best comedy I've heard in a long time.better than snl

[@FirstLastOne]

At 10:01 you'll note that one massive upgrade was made since 1982 and that was the new floppy drive at the rear of the ship. Prior to that, any new firmware updates took nearly eight months but with this latest update, that time has been cut down to just three and half months.

[@ugumol]

this is hilarious! thank you)

[@beayn]

They'll be buying floppies off ebay.

[@thuydoan7496]

It looks like a 5.24" floppy drive. 😂

[@sciencetube4574]

The Russian Navy: Disappointing expectations since 1905.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

The only thing the Russian military is good at is embarrassing itself and killing other Russians.

[@KillerofWestoids]

Soviet navy of the 1970s and early 1980s was quite impressive.

[@jeffreypierson2064]

Japanese torpedo boats sighted...

[@tonyennis1787]

Dude, don't make me throw my binoculars into the sea.

[@sciencetube4574]

@@tonyennis1787 dw there are 50 more where these came from

[@OverlordShamala]

I remember back in the 80s during the Cold War, the US military planners were worried that the Soviets were building carries & Tbilisi would be the 1st of their class. But there was no more, & only reports were that the Soviets were testing the ship & learning to make takeoff & landings on the ship. And reports kept coming that was all they were doing, takeoff & landings & only a few aircraft & helicopters were on boards. Not really a ship to be taken seriously.

[@elioaugustokumoto4726]

this ship is in fire this week, in dock.. again! Big war-stopped-expensive-machine

[@DarthAgony]

The Russian military proves to be a joke. Might as well just attach a cardboard outline of an actual ship to a boat, much cheaper and they'd get the same use out of it.

[@Maria_Erias]

All it would take would be an outbreak of termites or Japanese boring beetles, and then we'd start hearing tales of the "Great Patriotic Bug War".

[@loktom4068]

Really didn't see the 5 Beedee Eyes laughing in the UKRAINE war. More like crying 😭😭🎃😈😴

[@oliverguenther9243]

Well I hope Russian ICBMs prove to be just as useles.

[@augustuslunasol10thapostle]

@@oliverguenther9243 would you be surprised if they didn’t farewell?

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

I've got the overall impression that it's just hardware bought for cheap on wish being operated by a bunch of Orcs... :D

[@4G12]

TLDR: Root causes of prematurely failing aircraft carrier are systemic incompetence and corruption.

[@ir2633]

Also known as "russian military"

[@Asian_Boi_242]

Same reason why Russia is losing in Ukraine

[@daniyarsadykov3385]

So it is what I think

[@gabrielecarbone8235]

Also known as communism

[@unclescipio3136]

In other words, Russia.

[@maddog2314]

I love how it's now been deemed that it can't move due to being flooded and rusted out

[@JohnDoe-hs7ml]

In Finland we have saying, this is rough translation, if russians build an ass vibrator, it's either too small or will not fit in and does not vibrate. Here is the Finnish version, Jos venäläinen rakentaa perseentäryttimen, niin joko se on liian pieni tai liian iso eikä varmasti tärise.

[@geoh7777]

They should have converted that "mighty tugboat" into a small carrier. Would have made more sense.

[@JANG553]

Lmao that tugboat is the size of a Corvette Converting it to a Helicopter carrier or a light carrier is not possible

[@eddypan8]

At least it would have got to its destination under its own steam.

[@xpusostomos]

@@JANG553 Sure you can, just have to launch DJI drones instead of jets.

[@JANG553]

@@xpusostomos what about the platform to launch the drones?

[@xpusostomos]

@@JANG553 hold your hand out. Works for me.

[@FNHaole]

15 operational service days per year...to impress neighbors. It was the most expensive set of Christmas Lights in human history.

[@jgdooley2003]

I recall reading that the Royal Navy used to have their carriers at sea for 9 days per month and the US navy insisted that they increase this service ratio up to more days per month in order to make a successful transition to the Pacific Theatre of War after victory in Europe. In the positive side the US sailors admired the Royal Navy's armoured deck carriers as a better bet against Japanese suicide attacks. 15 days per year is completely shambolic and it virtually hands the worlds oceans over to NATO and the other alliances which have been formed against Russia. I wonder does the same level of incompetence apply to China?

[@scarecrow108productions7]

As said by Ward Carroll in the intel about Kuznetsov... Renaming your ship once is already a bad sign in the maritime superstitions. But renaming your Soviet-built aircraft carrier more than once, you're basically marked for death.

[@Seebaer-wg6jh]

As a former carrier sailor this video was one WTF after another.

[@MRRookie232]

It’s mind boggling how incompetent the Russian state is

[@frankgesuele6298]

Thank God😇

[@aevangel1]

That's communism / socialism for you.... guaranteed to happen every time.

[@williamzk9083]

@@aevangel1 Pareto effect: 20% of the people own 80% of the wealth no matter what ideology is in power. Wilfredo Pareto discovered that studying revolutions. So you can't get away from that but you can make sure that the system is efficient and gives social and monetary mobility and isn't corrupt.

[@igorknezevic4601]

@@aevangel1 Its hardly that... Its corruption. Russias main problem is that it wants to be compared with the US, while its economy is 2 times smaller than Germany.

[@HavokTheorem]

@@aevangel1 There's nothing socialist about the past or present Russian regime. It's a kleptocracy with red makeup. Socialist counties are those like Finland, Netherlands... ones with a focus on welfare, public infrastructure and sustained investment in, yknow, society. Not international vanity, intimidation and the lining of one's own pockets. In practise, Russia is more economically similar to the USA and China than it is to most of Europe.

[@jaybee9269]

Very Russian to have a guy orbit for an hour and then crash for lack of fuel…U.S. Navy would have a divert field (with a few exceptions across the world’s oceans). They also have a notable indifference to human life, at least in the military, though I wouldn’t put on the same low level with the Red Chinese.

[@carlosesteban5601]

What are you even trying to say? Quite puzzling to be honest. Are you trying to discredit their achievements in the space race, make a joke perhaps. The US after hearing they weren't the first made plans to nuke the moon.

[@jaybee9269]

@@carlosesteban5601 >> Actually, you are right. I went back and edited it for clarity.

[@lukephillips7239]

He didn't crash land because of a lack of fuel. That mission actually went exactly as planned for the Russians.

[@Pemmont107]

@@lukephillips7239 :D

[@dreamingflurry2729]

@@lukephillips7239 They also converted the Moskva to a permanent underwater base - right? :D

[@robertosovietunion7567]

One of the three Soviet made Kiev class Aircraft Carrier was decommissioned and sold to India and it was modified into a Full Aircraft Carrier in 2004 . While one was sold to China and one was sold into a scrapped

[@DDG_IN47]

Actually, the Kiev class carrier wasn't similar to the earlier ones. It was a subclass of its own, so Indian Navy procured it and armed it to the greatest. It took the number of years an entire new aircraft carrier could be constructed to convert the poor ship to a mighty ship that is truly mighty and not a paper warrior. INS Vikramaditya is really good in operations, while the Kuznetsov and the Liaoning are struggling. Moral of the story: Always put quality on a priority, cuz' a paper warrior of one may become the warrior of the enemy.

[@tritium1998]

@@DDG_IN47 Actually, the Liaoning has sailed bigger and better than anything India has, despite your wishes. Ironic how you brag about the smaller Vikramaditya when you had to return it to the Russians and beg them to add stuff you couldn't do yourselves. The even smaller Vikrant took ages to finish and still needs foreign planes.

[@DDG_IN47]

@@tritium1998 Hmmph, said the one who doesn't know much. We have lots of experiences with our carriers, but we just started the indigenization process. The thing is, China was already a trade giant and had bigger docks, so the Liaoning was built or I should say, Sinofied in the originally trade ship dock. While we finally have the proper facilities with the development of the Vikrant. About the foreign planes, it is good to have a fully indigenous design of TED-bf than the reverse engineered Chinese stuff which carries the limitations of adaptability lol.

[@DDG_IN47]

@@tritium1998 Welp, you don't know the story of Vikramaditya. Go research on it before you say "you had to return it to the Russians" while it is under maintenance in INS Kadamba, and almost done : ).

[@tedwojtasik8781]

@@tritium1998 Give me a break, the Chinese are as bad as the Russians with their garbage military tech.

[@02suraditpengsaeng41]

7:18 I bright some names and idea Name: "Chariot" class Cruiser Carrier Description: Totally-not-aircraft carriers have the ability to create dark smoke concealable completely and a propeller system provides by 2 armed powerful engine ship with the toughest cable that make it harder to immobility but can coordinated firepower with each other

[@damianjaviervediamcmahon7149]

Ok.... some stuff about the war now makes a lot of sense. Gotta admit the Russians have a pretty good facade game. But my goodness is it grim beneath the surface.

[@damianjaviervediamcmahon7149]

@@Kodakcompactdisc I'd hesitate to go that far... cornered animals and all that... But i think this is giving the world a real look at how far their self delusion goes

[@undisputed1one]

@@damianjaviervediamcmahon7149 watch covert cabal videos. He's very good at explaining the Russian military

[@ElvenJustice]

They're so fake and fucked up I doubt if they even have any working nuclear shit. probably scavenged for parts.

[@DjDolHaus86]

Being good at bluffing works until someone calls you out

[@Maria_Erias]

@@DjDolHaus86 The corollary to that is to only pick fights with countries that you know can't fight back. Georgia was a good example of that, as was the annexation of Crimea. Except, Ukraine had a case of self-actualization break out after 2014 and got help from the West with training and updating its military so that when abusive Uncle Ivan came kicking in the door again, they were ready this time.

[@needtau4138]

Japanese: "I am not a Hotel" Russians: "I am not a Carrier"

[@b-17gflyingfortress6]

Izumo: I am not a carrier

[@tommatt2ski]

Yamato to US aircraft carriers - I am not a Hotel ! US carriers - No you are not..... but you are a big JUICY TARGET !

[@aethertech]

France: I am a Hotel!

[@loktom4068]

Joker 🃏 BYE-DAM 🐱: I am still SLEEPING 😴💤😴💤 ZZZZZZZZZ.

[@amadeusamwater]

Common sense says you have to have infrastructure before you have combat units. Like trying to set up a combat division before you get the quartermaster and commissary sections figures out.

[@lakrids-pibe]

We have a saying in Denmark: *Tordenskjolds soldater* - the soldiers of Tordenskjold. The story goes that admiral Tordenskjold ordered his men to march in a big loop inside the city, so that it appeared as if he had more men. Kind of similar to the story of the 6 Yak-38's . Hehe

[@daughteroftiaran]

See also: 1950s Bomber Gap incident.

[@hazonku]

This was a wonderful video about the MOST important ship in the Russian fleet, that tugboat.

[@oron61]

Soon the tugboat will be superceded by the salvage ship fleet, flagship being Kommuna, the 109 year old salvager.

[@tomriley5790]

That tugboat did an amazing job towing the carrier in that weather! There must have been amazing strain on that rope!

[@ponyboy481]

The tugboat is the only reliable boat the Russian navy has

[@himoffthequakeroatbox4320]

Rope? Comrade captain, rope has been temporarily removed for ... routine maintenance. _Then tie some blankets together!_ Comrade captain, balankets also removed for routine maintenance. _Interesting. By strange coincidence, last time I went past your family's shop it had trousers and jackets of exactly the same colour_

[@paulleckner9148]

@@ponyboy481 Well, let's hope the tugboats don't break down. Tow trucks are in Red Square to tow the missile launchers when they break down on May 1st during the May Day military parade.

[@jankriz4611]

Tugbouat should be flagship!!!

[@dalex03]

A paper tiger with nukes and a mad man for a leader. Dangerous scenario for sure.

[@makabrax]

you forgot to add that one year after the floating dock accident a major fire broke out on the ship further damaging it also, there are rumors that some parts of the electronics were sold for scrap by the soldiers

[@xpusostomos]

Lol. Apart from that she's factory fresh.

[@jeffreyremick4387]

All of these problems with Smokey Joe could of been fixed if the Russian navy had just bought an extended warranty for the carrier from a telimarketer.

[@BamaMatters11]

*Sailors not soldiers smh.

[@xShawn117x]

You know, I was in the US Navy and we've always heard about our biggest foe being Russia, after seeing recent events with their Navy and the war in Ukraine, it is clear now that Russia is so way behind and outdated. America could easily beat Russia in war in all aspects.

[@justinetan6574]

Idk bro but russia can use nukes

[@xShawn117x]

@@justinetan6574 yeah? So could we! And I think we have more nukes then them. I was actually in the submarines force and I tell you what, we have the best nuke subs.

[@Regolith86]

@@xShawn117x They actually have more nukes than we do. It's an open question at this point exactly how many are really operational, though... IIRC, the US spends roughly ~$60 billion on maintenance and upkeep costs on our nuclear arsenal. That's about the same amount of money as Russia's entire military budget. Russia's budget can be stretched a bit further than ours due to lower labor costs, but I'm not sure how they can keep a larger nuclear arsenal functional with a fraction of the funding.

[@thomasblanchard6778]

Life on Earth could be exterminated

[@thomasblanchard6778]

...with a fraction of the world's nuclear arsenal.

[@storcy]

Remember prior to this year when we used to be concerned about Russia's military might? Funny times... 😂

[@woongah]

I will be honest - the part of me that os a sucket for aircrafts and other materiel was almost crying seeing Su-33, Su-25 and the Mig-29k thrashed because the arrest cables snapped. It is my understanding that Kuznetsov has always been smokey, even when new, because they always used cheap fuel - and this did not help, at all, its boilers. Poor ship.

[@SuikodenGR]

As a member of the US Navy with next year being 20 years, this is horribly laughable. Can't tell if the Russian feel embarrassed or very smart to join their Navy, as they hardly have to face combat with adversaries at sea 😂😂

[@Maria_Erias]

They're currently at war with a nation that doesn't have a navy that's sunk at least 3 of its ships so far, including the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet. That's pretty impressive. XD

[@Droski-Boutta-Bag]

@@Maria_Erias 😂😂😂 things ain’t going good for them over there 😂😭

[@mrinmoyseal5671]

It's not about joining the navy, it's about lack of fund, huge corruption, lack of infrastructure to maintain a aircraft carrier, lack of escort vessels. Russians should have sold it to India. India have been maintaining atleast one aircraft carrier at a time for more than 60 years. India had heavily modified Kive class aircraft cruiser it a fully operational aircraft carrier. You can't even recognise it by looking. Look Kiev class aircraft cruiser with INS VIKRAMADITYA.

[@DipoleBeats]

I would be horribly embarrassed. I ship in September ⚓

[@acr08807]

This is almost as embarrassing as our littoral combat ships.

[@armanddesarrierespays719]

every time I watch a documentary about a Russian copy of an American design, I wonder why they're so certain their nukes will work? The nuke numbers are probably exaggerated too the same way the carrier only had 6 planes instead of 60...

[@Paztacos]

Would you want to test that theory when millions could die?

[@jigrodrigues]

I too believe their nuclear weapons are pretty much dead on the water. USA spends billions of dollars maintaining their nuclear warheads. Russia doesnt have that type of cheese. If a single nuclear missile worked, I would be surprised.

[@honkhonk8009]

At the beginning, it was the Soviets that were ahead in missile design in general. But during the mid 70's, the entire union basically became a shithole lmfao.

[@kedrednael]

Even one nuke will cause unacceptable damage.

[@ab4113]

@@Paztacos they would probably blow up on being fired, Russia is just a myth in there own eyes, Ukraine has proved that, most of their army are 19-20 year old boys, fuck the one just sentenced to lofe for war crimes was a sargent at 20, Putin and his corrupt cronies, have tried to pull the wool over the worlds eyes for decades, they know, that we know too

[@user-fr3us1vi8o]

9:54 the reason for the black smoke is the use of low quality mazut oil as fuel for the carrier's boilers,combined with the aforementioned non-preheating of the fuel