How Shoulder Rotation In Tennis Forehands & Backhands Adds Power And Control

[@LifeIsGoodThankYouGod]

always love you intruction so we can get more people to play tennis.

[@PhantasticTruth]

My Mind is blown every time man! 🤯Why is it that my body doesn't catch these very important details on its own. Why is it that these details affect our skill level immensely, but are only obvious after it's pointed out?

[@CoachAdrian]

As with anything, tennis is a skill. It doesn't quite happen "naturally" or "automatically." It may seem like it sometimes, but we all learn tennis differently and at a different pace.

[@Whisper555]

It is a mental concept. The racquet is in your hand and you know you have to move that racquet, so you only move your hand & racquet which only needs your arm. A few other issues that also affect a persons ability to understand hip & shoulder turn 1. Mostly occurs with men. They have decently developed arm muscles, and generating power with the arm is not that hard for men with testosterone developed man muscles. They also incorrectly equate "effort level" and that feeling of being strong with having a powerful (read: fast racquet head speed) shot, so they use their arm and cannot conceptualise that less effort will lead to more and easier to control racquet head speed. 2. 95-99% of people simply do not have the requisite foot/ankle strength nor the foot awareness to a) generate power from the ground up & b) maintain good balance and posture that allows the affecting of consistent efficient and effective tennis swing technique. Literally the only physical interface the player has with the world and their base of power and balance is not up to the standard required to perform correct tennis technique.

[@PhantasticTruth]

@@Whisper555 This makes sense to me too. What helped me with power and control was understanding physics to grasp the effectiveness of swing speed. And for for footwork, i had to record myself and compare my body language with all the pros to improve my micro- movements in the best way possible. I then began to perceive all the different shots as dance moves in my mind and that made it easy to become more sensitive to aligning the upper and lower part of the body for the most power and control with the least amount of effort. Last but not least, i had to practice mindfulness meditation techniques to become more sensitive to these little movement hacks during a game. Even then i still miss so much info, which tells me there's more to this problem than what i have already learned. Thanks for the info!👍🏽

[@PhantasticTruth]

@@CoachAdrian i see. I noticed that some things i picked up naturally, and with other body parts i had to apply a conscious effort to change and improve on. I appreciate the info thank you.

[@CoachAdrian]

@@PhantasticTruth You're welcome! 👍

[@zegobiiii]

Even if i'm far from tennis now , i keep watching your videos Thomas from France and you're still doing a very very precise and complete work , enjoyable to see . Cheers to you , david .

[@ninaetedali1467]

Really appreciate the clarity of your explanations! 👍🏻🎾💐😊💐🎾

[@lgnd-lm6ug]

I really like that you always show the wrong way to do things and how that affects the game. Very simple and clear explanation

[@scottsheck]

Thank you so much. Excellent explanations. I know so many people who have that collapsed arm but I couldn’t identify what they were lacking.

[@dimawood007]

Another priceless video from Tomaz. Thank you so much for thorough explanation.

[@assihassan]

Outstanding coaching 10/10!!

[@SandroBorazon]

Regular teachers: Do this, cause it's right! Thomaz: Do this, cause this moves your body like that, it can give you more balance, generating more power, doing efortless movements, so u don't get tired soon, you don't hurt yourself doing that way, u feel more confident, and so, and so, and so.... That's the difference!

[@gowthamelaprolu5416]

Happy new year Tomaz. I had learned a lot from your videos, you are the best in KZbin.

[@feeltennis]

Happy new year, thank you!

[@ponduruprakesh]

Thanq u cleared my mind whether to rotate arms or shoulders I used to rotate arms before not worked properly I try this shoulders rotation I will have better timing at the contact

[@vladimirgorosko]

Thank you Tomaz, great theory and clear explanation as always!

[@gonularslanturk446]

Best explanations,best Coach.Thanks a lot👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@GermanShephard123]

Great video..for Roger federer forehand, the first thing that moves in his upper body on the forward swing is his left shoulder....shoulder rotation makes the stroke feel smooth..great video!

[@feeltennis]

You only notice left shoulder but he rotates symmetrically around body axis.

[@TennisAloha]

Hi Coach Thomaz, Thanks so much for the lesson. Rotating is easy to understand for players but it's tough to incorporate it without getting too mechanical. Great drills!

[@andrehalim469]

Perfect. Easy relax tennis instruction series pls. Tks.

[@themutekiununbi4932]

Glad to see you back. Happy NYE 2021. As always your videos are always well-informed, well presented in an easy way to follow

[@FairwayJack]

good stuff

[@SamTenniss]

Thanks coach, much needed to correct my technique.

[@lianasmone]

Thank you very much as usual

[@K4R3N]

Happy New Year Tomaz! Great to have new content from you

[@leonbogenhausen2044]

Great help! Thanks a lot.

[@SkyreeXScalabar]

Thank you, even though I rotate correctly on my 2hbh and fh I don't rotate correctly with my slice and 1hbh

[@pupstart]

Great reminder here thank you

[@tradingwithwill7214]

shoulder/chest seems to lead the rotation and the arm is loose so you get a snap effect for increased speed

[@rickywatson5955]

Thanks for the informative video! Does the Shoulder rotation come from the right shoulder or left( for forehand)? Right shoulder pulling to contact can also help with rotation of the shoulders.

[@feeltennis]

No, it comes from the center, rotating top trunk / shoulders region as one unit around the body axis.

[@rickywatson5955]

@@feeltennis Thank you for the reply!

[@memomaniac]

Hey Tomas, you're a very clever man. Your logical explanations are awesome. You have been creating "number 1" videos about tennis in terms of content. However, people like magical effects in videos. May be, you should think to work with a professionel stuff for editing your videos.

[@davspa6]

Just thinking, is that feeling of that torso action like a lifting motion? So it feels in the abdomen area like the same feeling you get when you're lifting something? I'm just thinking about times when I have done this properly and that's the feeling I get. You can even hit open stance and get power if you use that core. (As I'm sure you and other pros have pointed out about Roger Federer? With his 6-in racket drop and extended arm he could not possibly hit the ball that hard if he didn't have a strong core action, right?) And I guess the reason I thought of that is must be the forehand at home workout where you swing freely from both sides kind of lifting things lifting something, but keeping the two hands working together. That must be where I got the idea from.

[@TheBeauzou]

I hope you are in Australia, so I can have you to teach me. Thanks so much for your video, and I am always playing with my arms only, i do not realize i do not use shoulder and hip. I am changing now but it is not easy and cannot hit the ball well.

[@feeltennis]

Give it about a month's time to integrate into your strokes. Shadow swing daily for a few minutes...

[@TheBeauzou]

@@feeltennis 🤝🤝

[@magdi556]

Happy New Year Tomaz as always you give very good technical and physical skills, please also give a little more psychology ;-)

[@feeltennis]

Thanks! Ask me a question about psychology!

[@magdi556]

@@feeltennis Hello Tomaz, thank you for your answer! I have only found two videos of you on this topic on you tube. The mentality is very important so that everything can be developed in a relaxed and fun tennis game. There are certain processes to focus on so that the negative emotions and other licks can be better ignored and positive emotions can be reinforced, etc. You know what I mean ... Tomaz Greetings from Magdi

[@MiguelAngelo-bl5to]

Great video..

[@niltoncosta6222]

Gostaria de saber se para bater você usa o pulso, ou se dobra somente o anti-braço?

[@douglashagan65]

Right that don't matter whether you can face down like better face up this is all your style but what really the key to meet the potatoes is that shoulder rotation is your contacts on where you're taking the ball that is the whole nut shell and hit the cross like a table top and that falls through coming up getting through that ball I can't screw like the Masters the best players hitting through like three four balls straight through that ball hit down to sucker play

[@gnkarn00]

Super Clear , thanks

[@aananugrah2840]

Thank you from much from indonesia

[@jackspradlin4183]

so how do you monitor or gauge the amount of shoulder rotation you should do one hand backhand?

[@K4R3N]

I will Visit to Slovenia in 2021 for personal lesson!🏆

[@K4R3N]

Shoulder rotation on the SERVE too!

[@Skama1975]

Thanks for a new material and Happy New Year! I wonder what is the iq or how a sad life must have the person(s) who press thumb down for these kind of materials!

[@twinwankel]

Thanks for the video. I agree with your lesson though I note that Nadal uses mostly vertical forehands with little or no rotation. Most of his power comes from sheer racket head speed. I take it you don't recommend this style of play.

[@feeltennis]

Massive body and shoulder rotation in Nadal's forehand: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2i3kmx6l61-oM0

[@benjaminmiranda4509]

Does the shoulder and hip rotate as a unit or the shoulder first followed by the hip?

[@feeltennis]

At recreational level hip and shoulders rotate in most situations at the same (of course with players with correct biomechanics) but on the pro level the hip often times goes first. But because on rec level players hit late a lot, hip stays behind and is out of sync. So shoulders go first, and hip rotates after the contact which is useless. So I work a lot on hip rotation with players to put the hip back in sync.

[@benjaminmiranda4509]

@@feeltennis thank you

[@SambasivaraoKoppula]

your my God gift teacher great full to you forever

[@mariodeb]

that is why i cross the arm on the chest when i hit a forehand tks tkd

[@SambasivaraoKoppula]

HAPPY NEW YEAR Tomaz

[@fedonstar]

When I watch video of myself hitting the ball I see that problem. How to fix this? It seems to me it is hard to rotate upper body because of lack flexibility and my foots tends to twist.

[@ranz1022]

So what’s the difference between the hip rotation and shoulder rotation?

[@bonzwah1]

that's an interesting question. I'm curious what you mean to ask. the most straight forward answer is that shoulder rotation happens due to twisting at the waist which allows the shoulders to rotate relative to the hips...but that can't be what you are asking.

[@feeltennis]

In most cases rec players perform some level of shoulder rotation but keep their hips behind. Therefore they lack hip rotation. Usually if we fix hip rotation, shoulder rotation improves too. As explained in the shoulder rotation video, most players do not FIRM UP their upper body so they basically push the hitting shoulder forward and forget about the non-hitting shoulder which loosens up and makes the stroke unreliable. Shoulder rotation then means that we rotate shoulders as one unit around an axis engaging them equally as if you are throwing a medicine ball two-handed.

[@ranz1022]

@@feeltennis Thank you, so am I right to intentionally think hip rotates first, and then shoulder follows (all while happening almost simultaneously)?

[@Benson_Bear]

This is really body rotation, right, and the shoulders are carried along? What about rotation at the shoulder joint itself?

[@feeltennis]

Yes, body rotation but one needs to create a certain amount of tension through the shoulders to feel them as one unit, like a stick across the body which I can then rotate. Every person rotates their body as they are hitting but usually have a "dead" non-dominant arm dangling down which tells us they don't feel the shoulders as one unit that they could rotate. As for shoulder joint rotation, look into this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZaonXuOoKh6bck

[@Benson_Bear]

@@feeltennis Thanks a lot for your quick reply even on an older video. Your way of explaining how the shoulders should work like a unit, and how failure at this can be diagnosed with the dead arm, is very useful. The other video is also very good at showing the big picture of the natural circular swing. However, I have the problem that you mention later in the video, but I think you do not quite diagnose completely (at least for my case). I try to do a circle, but like the student you show, it isn't actually really, because I (even moreso) tend to stop at the back/top of the circle. The reason being that if I am not stopping, this long swing is much much harder to actually time so as to arrive at the same spot as the ball. This relates to my original question, also. In the following way: I was asking about the rotation of the shoulder (and perhaps forearm supination) which on the one handed backhand is, as I understand it (along with swinging low to high (not mechanically but part of the circle path) and lifting the body through the legs) is instrumental to producing topspin. This is not something you covered here as far as I can tell. But both of these issues are what I have trouble with because I want to hit through the ball, lining up the racquet trajectory right along the ball trajectory for a good period of time, in order to have a better chance of actually hitting the ball. So I tend to hit very very flat. I think other people also have this problem. I wonder if you address it, I will look at your other videos.

[@어찌끄나.테니스노래]

Good

[@Lenamo23]

So first hip rotation and then shoulder?

[@feeltennis]

For high level tennis yes, but for recreational it's mostly at the same time. Explained in the hip rotation video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWrKnX-dlsmWl9U

[@kentzhang3781]

Medvedev has 0 shoulder rotation kinda crazy

[@douglashagan65]

Tennis secret tennis I was listening to the best in the world and it shouldn't tell you this but it's late my career hitting across the table top it's like running a skill saw across the table and you just pick it up at the air that gives you that death that gives you that power that gives you that penetration it gives you those deep shots the corners keyed on that bass lines keep that Ball deep get through that ball how many times I tell you

[@woliver24]

Who is Peter?

[@isou2554]

I can't believe my eyes. Only 12 comments and 4hours old Video. Usually I am nbr 1k and 4years late hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@K4R3N]

9:24 guilty

[@mariodeb]

i cross the arms sorry

[@bn6942]

Many thanks