How similar are Halo and Mass Effect? | Comparisons

[@bthsr7113]

They have similarities, but they are fundamentally different series with flaws and strong merits of their own.

[@fyrfly8768]

they are alike in that both have fallen far from grace in recent years with new additions.

[@thorshammer7883]

@@fyrfly8768 It is tragic how far both franchises have fallen due to writer, corporate, and external influence incompetence.

[@bthsr7113]

Halo has fallen farther.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

@@bthsr7113 Has it it's still going but masseffect has not a release since the one that killed bio wear,

[@bthsr7113]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough Yes, but it was one terrible release. Halo had two back to back after an okay start to a new trilogy, and grossly greedy monetization on top. The Mass Effect Trilogy is largely intact in reputation, while Halo keeps digging deeper, made worse by ongoing changes making Halo Infinite even worse more laughable.

[@barrybend7189]

Fun fact the Mass Effect 1 assault rifle firing sound is from Halo but with an added warble effect.

[@spiritfox6066]

Cool, I didn't know that.

[@Glitchedpixel5]

Now that I think about it....

[@kcdodger]

I really need a citation on that.

[@nanoman8]

So it was not just me pretending? It was actualy it?

[@HeliosDrive]

I'm kinda surprised how you didn't draw parallels between the respective ground forces of the Flood & the Reapers, Combat Forms & Husks; both consist of once-living species that have been subsumed & repurposed into mindless ground troops stripped of self & higher functions, with the former converting its hosts into fungal zombies & the latter into techno-organic zombies. Certain variants of these troops also demonstrate a degree of modularity incurred by mixing & matching host biomasses, be it the Flood Pure Forms or Husk hybrids like the Brute. Or how both factions utilise a form of mental subversion against their foes; the Flood's Logic Plague & Reaper Indoctrination.

[@seanallard9335]

There's a reason why Mass Effect/Halo are one of the most popular crossover fics

[@aloruus]

Another comparison is that if you use the default first name for Shepard it's John which is Master Chief's name also

[@GrOuNdZeRo7777]

Both are John Doe's in a way

[@kylehogan2247]

and Fem Shep is Jane. I enjoy these names a lot for the reason that @GrOuNdZeRo7777 said

[@MrKrystal64]

It's cool cuz a John doe/Jane doe cld be anybody we also see in serval cutsceme how a lot spartan look like chief on average with 343 saying anyone cld be a spartan. So just a shepard cld be one of us we can cld be a chief in our own right as well

[@CanadianLegionaire]

@@GrOuNdZeRo7777 In a way but considering Halo's heavy Christian thematic influence, the name John 117 could be references to John 1.17 of the bible. Hiddenxperia went into this slightly in his video about how Bungie had planned the forerunners to be ancient humans.

[@blapzapp6494]

I love that you touched apon Mass Effect. Similar to yourself, Halo and ME played a huge point in my life in giving me my love and curiosity of technology and human physiology. I've followed you since near you began and am so happy to see your videos grace my dash every time as you touch on so many topics im curious about. I'm honestly surprised you haven't breached 1 million subscribers yet! Thank you for being so awesome and being so dedicated to providing us the joy we call your content, keep up the great work!

[@Nachtfalke-NSKR]

On my Discord server I literally mixed both Mass Effect and Halo together. The systems Alliance becoming the UNSC and any other factions outside of that being their own thing.

[@1800moonSugar]

What's your discord server?

[@SupremeKingToshiro]

Both are great games

[@Ambulatory_Viscount]

Dude, "adverse" means "preventing or limiting success". You're essentially saying that Halo and Mass Effect *_stopped_* you from having a career and an interest in sci-fi lmao

[@bthsr7113]

TBF, this is the same guy who didn't understand what a radiator was when talking about advanced tech and biological modifications.

[@Ambulatory_Viscount]

@@bthsr7113 lmao

[@Installation00]

The script was "Advantageous Effect". I have absolutely no idea why that popped out. I must be tired.

[@silent_stalker3687]

@@Installation00your sleep schedule has an adverse affect on your script reading skills X3

[@yelwinmoisesacostaduarte8915]

​@@Installation00 maybe a long break wouldn't hurt you

[@GoNo117]

Funnily enough there is a similar period of time between the first contact war (2157) and the first mass effect game (2183) which is 26 years and the start of the human covenant war (2525) and end of the human covenant war (2552) which would be 27 years although technically it would be 28 years if you go with the official ceremony. Anyway keep up the crossovers I love this type of content!

[@NovoCognition]

An interesting comparison between Halo and Mass Effect. Both of them are very enjoyable sci-fi game series with fascinating lore.

[@nerdlydelicious1876]

The idea of a Reaper crash landing on a Halo leads me to the idea of a Reaper being infected with the logic plague. *shudders* No thank you.

[@andresmarrero8666]

To be fair the idea of the flood being indoctrinated is just as bad.

[@thorshammer7883]

@@andresmarrero8666 That is highly going to be unlikely. The Gravemind is too eldritch in it's pathogen physiology and inherent intelligence to be laid low by something as insignificant as Reaper indoctrination not to mention the Flood is the Gravemind itself. The Warp would be better suited for corruption but even then the Gravemind is hyper adaptive to all situations and obstacles it finds itself in that it can overcome. The Flood have corrupted AIs far more intelligent and far more secure with stronger defenses then all of the Reaper armada combined. And it has won against a 3 million planet sized galactic empire capable of blowing up solar systems and building megastructures.

[@nihilityjoey]

​@@thorshammer7883the flood only corrupted mendicant bias.......after a fifty year Convo. Mendicant did the rest. The logic plague as far as I've seen works slower than indoctrination. And how does the logic plague work???

[@AndrewCraig-p7i]

@@thorshammer7883 I really must disagree here… the even the precursors were around recent enough the forerunners knew them, and the flood came from them… the Reapers have been doing their business for millions of years…. The grave mind is an intelligent singularly intentioned focused organism just like the Reapers, but the Reapers will is eternal in comparison.

[@thorshammer7883]

@@AndrewCraig-p7i No seriously, the Reapers have been stagnant for a billion years and have never fought a opponent with the capacity to destroy planets so easily with their fleets and weaponry and intelligences that can react in picoseconds. For Forerunners ai are far more advance and adaptive then Reaper ai. And do the Reapers even have the numbers and weapon systems to conquer a single Forerunner fleet? No they don't. Their hulls be torn apart like cheese in a grinder. You pit the Reapers up against the Forerunners it's a Xeelee stomp. The Precursors are even more powerful then the Reapers with technologies more powerful then the Forerunners. The Reapers never had any remotely on par with Star Roads or Forerunner Shield worlds. They never did and never would in Mass Effect canon.

[@m16-a2]

Last time i was this early, Sgt Johnson knew what the ladies liked

[@Reyma777]

Mass Effect 2 is one of the most improved sequels I have ever played. It’s also in my top 10 games ever. However, I’m a bigger Halo fan than Mass Effect fan.

[@AloneDoggKilla]

@@Reyma777 I 100% agree only thing change for me that was sad was the over heating weapons to having ammo but I get why they changed it

[@michaelwhittaker5537]

Mass Effect 2 streamlined the gameplay and added a ton of beloved and memorable characters but it also caused a lot of long term structural problems for the story that ultimately resulted in the atrocity that was the Mass Effect 3 ending. I’d recommend the book ‘Mess Effect’ or the blog by Shamus Young on which it’s based if you want to do a deep dive on how writing decisions in the 2nd and 3rd game shifted the tone and direction of the story in the wrong direction. The long and short of it is that ME2 shoehorned in the Cerberus stuff at the expense of the ‘stopping the Reapers from killing us all’ plot, which didn’t advance at all.

[@Reyma777]

@@michaelwhittaker5537Mass Effect 3 had solid gameplay but there was a menagerie of plot issues.

[@nagger8216]

@@Reyma777 I disagree, everything wrong with ME3's plot is due to ME2 basically doing nothing with the story. I mean, it doesn't even do anything with Shepard and the Prothean visions at all, Shepard is just special because "he's a bloody icon." I guess. No focus on actually stopping the Reapers or preparing the galaxy for their return, we deal with a side-villain that gets introduced and then killed off like it didn't affect anything outside of that little bubble. Mass Effect was irreparably damaged once they killed Shepard off only to immediately resurrect him, it was all downhill from there.

[@sgtaveryjohnson3803]

Objectively speaking all 3 mass effect games had great stories and little plot issues. That's just false

[@FabledThunder]

I picked up Mass Effect 1 because Fox News made a “big deal” about a certain scene in the game

[@thorshammer7883]

It looks like your theory video about the Precursor's dark secret a few years ago has become true in Halo continuity. I think most those aspects and plot lines can still work within Bungie's old narrative of the Forerunners being humans.

[@riker127]

This video reminded me of a Halo x Mass effect fanfic where the reapers created the flood to defeat the forerunners who were too powerful for the reapers to harvest

[@GoNo117]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

[@deadman9335]

Is this a planet or something in mass effect

[@chickenstrips5138]

🚀💥

[@voomvoom4522]

You doing universe comparisons is an unexpected move, but not an unwelcome one. Would be great to see Halo or ME be compared to more universes.

[@MawGinBoo]

Throw in Dead Space with the markers steering the technological evolution of a species to make more markers and eventually set off the chain of events that leads to a new brethren moon and all of a sudden these developers seem a little less creative than we thought

[@LUCYJROBYN]

COOL! Coming back to watch this when I've finished Halo!💚

[@MJS-lk2ej]

Bioware: hey Bungie, can we copy your homework? Bungie: yeah just change it up a little so they can't tell 343i: Hey Bioware, can we copy your homework? Bioware: yeah just change it up a little so they can't tell

[@janekduda7548]

I remember when i was a kid and played both game franchises. I alway wondered all the questions you and other channels like, regularly, ask and answer. Now as a young adult I am finally seeing then discussed in the format i wanted(back then). I just wanted to say that. You rock man, maybe a too nerdy at times, but you are solid! P.s both these franchises alongside SW are my all time faves. I am happy you are doing what you do.

[@Rohirin]

They may be similar, but only Mass Effect has a biotic god. His name is Niftu Cal!

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Goddamn it 😂😂

[@UnrulyRantLord]

I AM A BIOTIC GOD, FEAR ME LESSER CREATURES 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Ifinishedyoutube]

You have no idea how much joy I have in my heart that you found Mass effect.

[@nathanoutdoors7981]

How crazy would it be if halo and mass effect were in the same universe but in different times

[@cpob2013]

The mass effect Alliance would have to be ancient humanity for that to work. They are 400 years earlier but far more advanced.

[@nagger8216]

@@cpob2013 ...Or just set it 30 years after Halo 3. It's 2583, not 2183. Boom, fixed lol

[@Sandmonmsn]

Yes, more of this sort of stuff please. If you did a Most Detailed series on Mass Effect and Crysis, then during dry spells between the releases of official content compared the different most detailed breakdowns of say Mass Effect and Halo. Or Deus Ex and Crysis. That could be a series for you. You could also use your Most Detailed series to make your own personal Head cannon if you were building a Super Soldier, A Power Armour, A Spaceship, A Military & It's doctrine and the Equipment they would use. That could pad things out for a while. For example; A HUD could draw from all of the fictional universes you have already covered (Halo, ME, Deus Ex and Crysis).

[@UnrulyRantLord]

His channel would blow up if he drew in the ME community

[@fyrfly8768]

Mass Effect 2's suicide mission is still one of my all time favorite gaming experiences ever. even 15 years later every time I play it I get chills. I know 100% how it will play out but I still feel the stakes are enormous.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

It probably by far is Biowares Greatest work in terms of a single mission

[@justindurfee9375]

I never noticed these things until you pointed them out. I never would have caught that Halcyon cruiser silhouette because that cut scene simply went by too quickly. And I never noticed that the crashed ship on Delta Halo resembled a Reaper. I never connected the turians' code of honor to the Elites, the krogans' size and strength to the Brutes, the salarians' lithe build to the ancient form of the Prophets, the volus' diminutive stature and inability to survive outside their native atmosphere to the Grunts, the vorcha to the Jackals , the Thorian to the Flood, or anything else. It's crazy to see all this.

[@theharbinger00]

Also great breakdown of the factions and races. I feel like the precursors and the reapers although similar in execution have two different motives for what they do so in that sense it does put them on a different playing field.

[@Apexassassin141]

Another connection both games have is Cerberus and ONI; both started off as human interested spy organizations turned terrorist (Cerberus in ME 3 and ONI possibly further down the line, fingers crossed.) as well as the flood combat forms and the indocation the reapers use to turn organics into husks. Also, would love to see chief go up against a Korgan in hand to hand.

[@berges104]

Omega-4 relay did not need the Reaper IFF to activate. Misspoke that part. Ships had tried the Omega-4 relay but none had ever returned. Although I would imagine it was monitored so they should have seen Collectors come and go, so conflicting information. Reaper IFF was needed to safely use O-4 relay. Many of the wrecked ships went through but got torn up by the gravimetric forces around the safe bubble. The ships that dropped into the bubble got smoked by the Collectors (or cycle variant). Either way, none were known to return.

[@santamuerte4767]

Friends and family hearing installation00 romancing liara: baaaaaaby, aaaaaaaaah

[@LGCY_RAVEN]

Commander Shepard would would make a great spartan, and John 117 would make a great N7/SPTR

[@ArcticVXR1]

I share the same sentiment Sir about Halo: CE. Fell in love on day one back in 2001. Its funny, because when you play it now, it still has that same feel as it did all that time ago, it never aged. That day one feeling is still there. Original graphics for the win too!

[@esterzine6561]

You know this video is useful for a potential AU idea I have cooked up with Halo and ME.

[@MrTanekron]

I absolutely loved this , specially because my life experience has been the polar opposite of Installation00's: I first found the Mass Effect saga in my teen years and became completely addicted to it. And now I'm diving into the massive (pun intended) lore of Halo, so finding out about all these similarities is mind-blowing to me! Thanks for this video!

[@UnrulyRantLord]

I've always loved Halo but Mass effect I never touched the story only really the multiplayer at a friend's house. Once I heard about the Legendary Edition I finally decided to see what I've missed. That wait was SO FUCKING WORTH IT to have everything there at once all upscaled. It absolutely boggles me why they never shipped the Multiplayer though

[@MrTanekron]

@@UnrulyRantLord yeah, its kinda weird that ME multiplayer never really took off... I guess by that time there were other more famous multiplayer IPs out there, like CoD or Halo itself.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

@@MrTanekron *sigh* yeah a man can only dream. I wholeheartedly believe it would hold up with today's market. And virtually no one would have cared about the paid supply packs. I did a lot of Andromeda's, it was really good but nothing close

[@UnrulyRantLord]

@@MrTanekron Hell thanks for reminding me lmao. I wanna finally try it's story (I'm aware of the outstanding criticism)

[@MrTanekron]

@@UnrulyRantLord its a great story. Yeah, ME 3 is arguably the weakest link in the chain, and 1 can get slow at times, but 2 is a MASTERPIECE and overall the whole trilogy tells an amazing story. Cant say about Andromeda, I started it, played like 30 min of the campaign and, honestly, enjoyed It, but then I sidelined It for something else at that time (Borderlands, I think xD) TL;DR Its a great story, great universe and great lore. I you love Halo, you are gonna love ME.

[@austinguthrie5528]

Mass Effect and Gears of War were those games I always kept seeing on the shelves at the local movie store I always went to as a kid, always some them there and never heard or knew anything about either of these games when I finally decided to give them a try. Best decision of my life!

[@bennuredjedi]

The Xelnaga of Starcraft are more skin to the Precursors than the Reapers

[@maxjjackson]

Both icons of the console gaming industry

[@xjilnuz3495]

The Forerunners' and Humanities' fight for the mantle and the Reaper Cycles reminds me of: "Brother may I have some oaths?'

[@ek_design]

First off love the intro, second I got into mass effect when halo infinite became stale to me and I craved more.. little did I know how extensive mass effect was and how incredible the story was, and I’m still only halfway through ME 2

[@Alberto_Loza45]

Halo and Mass Effect were my favorite Sci Fi series growing up. I love the lores that each were brought to people that want learn deeper in the game. It's such a shame that the people over at Halo and ME Fanfic would try to hate on each other from various reasons and write story to make each other weak or contradictory I have seen some Halo/Mass Effect fanfics that were good, but the one story that caught me the most was United We Stand that was written by Mayto which is so blending the lores together really well as making the Characters really look interesting as well as the Battles by the Creator it was so good. My favorite Chapters was the Battle of Chi Rho that would get u your attention making u wonder what would happen next. Unfortunately, the Arthor has stop posting more chapters leaving only 86 chapters and I don't know how long he'll come back continuing the story or if he would even come back at all. Despite that hiatus, I still recommend to those are interested with the story.

[@mikesherwood3366]

I feel the same, my approach to anything sci fi is heavily tinged by the interplay between my knowledge of halo and mass effect as well

[@CAARaeed]

I love this. Peak sci-fi lore right here. I dare say far deeper and more fascinating than Star Trek or Wars (and I love those too)

[@xxTheSkidKidxx]

Do more of these lore videos. Also a flood vs. Reaper video would be nice.

[@jannegrey]

On one hand there are similarities (and differences as well) between those 2 franchises, some of which seem to be deliberate nods to the other. But on the other hand it shows how even great Sci-Fi series follow similar tropes. Like "Planet of Hats" - having an entire species being very similar (Krogan or Brutes are mostly warlike and strong and not very smart etc.). Though in this case we have more differentiation in Mass Effect, but that is because of circumstances (lack of great war from the beginning, so we see a lot more of facets of culture that in Halo would not be shown or would be eradicated by Covenant). And in both "Humans" are kind of the only ones that are more than that. Because we have our own history and culture to reference from. And yes, I noticed some of the similarities (Brutes = Krogans, Elites = Turians etc.), but again, I've put it mostly to following similar tropes. Mass Effect was inspired by Babylon 5 to some degree and you get a lot of inspiration in both coming from other Sci-Fi series.

[@iggi3985]

As surprised as I am that to this day, a halo movie hasn’t been made, I am also surprised that a mass effect game hasn’t been released. It’s a fantastic game and story

[@Infinite8blue]

I played mass effect 1 and when I I got to mass effect 2 so much changed in terms of game play that I just couldn't continue playing the game so I just until the game even bought the trilogy. I check the forums and saw that so many people felt the same about Mass Effect 2

[@mitchellman32]

Two universes so similar yet so different, and my two favorite franchises bar-none.

[@falloutgod1073]

Good video!

[@dougsmith6262]

How has it been over 20 years?! I started playing when I was 17, and now I'm a 40 year old father of four who STILL plays!

[@Installation00]

Has any of the kids followed in your footsteps and entered the Halo Universe?

[@nicktitus4374]

Send this straight into my veins!!!!

[@michiganjack1337]

Mass Effect (as with Dragon Age) never quite superseded the first game. For me Halo and Reach were the peak of those games. Even though Halo 2 and Halo 3 (especially 3) were great games, I just liked the feel of CE and Reach more.

[@irongill20]

My 2 favorite franchises

[@irongill20]

Both gutted 😞

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Would it be weird to say I actually kinda like Andromeda?

[@jedijam91]

This is the only thing that made me like the scorpion punch armor coating.

[@connorallen2283]

I remember when I first played Halo it was early days of the 360 and my dad had the original copy of CE when I first started playing it I was just like oh I can shoot aliens it wasn't until I got older I started to understand the story then i fell out with Xbox and got into PlayStation then i discovered mass effect then that's when I started to make parallels between Halo and Mass Effect

[@netherwalker1762]

24:00 I'd rather say that that was Frank O'Connor's idea of it, not a fan of the direction he and 343 took the story in. I wasn't a fan of Bungie's original idea either, but humans as forerunners was at least far more interesting than the pallid space chickens we ended up getting in 4. If you like that, good on you, and I don't look down on someone for their tastes. I was actually quite taken in my previous years by it. Only now have I really found distaste for the story and it's ultimate path.

[@catsareamazing3616]

Amazing video love it

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

XCOM, albeit a much less known franchise, could be thrown in the mix as well. Pretty much the same premise, and many similarities when it comes to the alien races.

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

So Halo is kinda a 'what if the Reapers indoctrinated everyone?'. Maybe Halo is what follows the synthesis ending, and that's why it's green :P

[@theharbinger00]

These games are the standard of what storytelling should be in the small or big screen!

[@thewayfarer8849]

I feel like Shepard is a perfect ORION operative, and Halo does have the classic ME1/2 space opera elements post-war. Shepard's story, military experience and character isn't quite like a II or III; but fits to prototype, humanity's first steps era of the Domus Diaspora.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Would love to compare Shepard vs MC

[@Josh-lu2ew]

I'm still waiting on how the Reapers would fair in Halos universe, like could the logic plague work on Reapers? Would Indoctrination work on the flood? & I mean imagine what the Reapers can do with the Covenant species, Reaper brutes were a combination of Krogan, Turian, & Yahg so imagine what they could do combining a Grunt, Brute, & Elite.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

MAC cannons would obliterate a sovereign class Reaper

[@Josh-lu2ew]

@@UnrulyRantLord no shit

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Just wanna point out if Humanity had MAC cannons in ME, the reapers would be obliterated well before they reached Earth. Their only chance is to throw way more numbers than can be killed. A sovereign class reaper is roughly 2 kilometers in length. A covenant supercarrier as seen in Reach is 23.....

[@loverofjesusMKII]

I wouldn't say Harbinger hates humanity. To the contrary he seems to respect humans among the other Citadel races, which is why he choses them to become the next major Reaper.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

You know you're doing well when the leader of all powerful machine race skype calls you to talk shit like in Arrival

[@jameslove3860]

BRO THAT WAS ME AS A KID! LMAO I beat it and the flood scared me and I wouldn't play the flood missions, and wouldn't complete it after that lol

[@o.k.productions5202]

There is art of the Elcor with MACs on their back. MAC isn’t a term ME uses, it uses a different term I’m hesitant to type here but is essentially the same thing.

[@Gotnothingatall]

Mass asccerlator cannon.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

If Humanity had MAC cannons from Halo. The reapers would be obliterated before they even reached the freaking moon

[@cole1407]

The flood terrified me as a child 😂

[@worldwanderer91]

Fact: The Halo TV show is more like a Mass Effect TV show but wearing Halo skin. It's the closest thing to a live action ME show. While Halo fans either dislike or hate it, but ME fans will surely love it

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Great perspective

[@AKlover]

The lore described squad weapons in Mass Effect would make short work of even Spartans, in contrast with fleet based weaponry in Halo would make canon fodder of the Systems Alliance and Turian fleets. N7s versus Spartans probably would be A short fight unless the Spartans got ME weaponry.

[@bthsr7113]

Oh yeah, and again, according to lore, most UNSC weapons would do squat against Kinetic Barriers. The Spartan Laser is a notable exception though.

[@bigsweetz7106]

Incredible games!

[@m16-a2]

Sticky detonator :)

[@bthsr7113]

@@m16-a2 That might work.

[@m16-a2]

@@bthsr7113 and the incineration cannon 🫡

[@nagger8216]

I always saw Mass Effect as the proper continuation of the Halo universe that takes place about 30 years after Halo 3. Turians had a first contact war with humans but now have peace treaties with us? That sounds familiar. The Salarians have a history of manipulating other races to fight their wars for them? Sounds pretty similar to the Prophets. So many pieces fit together that it's harder to not think it's a Halo spinoff at this point.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Well humanity would be nerfed then because MACs would obliterate Reaper ships

[@essex3777]

Honestly, I think normal gunpowder propelled bullets could probably get past Mass Effect kinetic barriers just because they don't go fast enough to trigger them.

[@AlbertWillHelmWestings2618]

ah yes 2 of my favored sci-fi game series

[@cpob2013]

Cerberus isnt just an organization or the people behind it. Cerberus is an idea.

[@loverofjesusMKII]

00 here reminding me of the days of having to shut off consoles because we couldt just boot back to a main menu. Oh the things we take for granted now.

[@dylanjwagner]

They’re both sci-fi series that pull from a lot of common sci-fo tropes and conventions. A lot of this is just… happenstance. You could do the exact same thing with Halo and damn near any sci-fi series of the same scope. The voice actors and homages (like the paint jobs in Infinite) are just silly to call out beyond the “neat” factor.

[@ghilean1174]

ME1 guns work exactly like most covenant weapons.

[@tasbard8545]

I honestly think the best battle we could ever get would be a war between the Flood and Reapers. The Flood have mastered Physical Corruption. The Reapers have mastered Mental Corruption. The flood would evolve to combat the reapers. The reapers would assimilate their evolution and counter everything. The Floods weapons are almost inneffective against the Reapers. The Reapers weapons are almost innefective against the Flood. And the one feat the Flood have one the Reapers is their ability to convince ancient AI to join their side. But that takes a very long time. It takes almost no time for the Reapers to obliterate anything. It feels like the ultimate, most hellish infite war of all sci fi, or even all pf fantasy in general.

[@andresmarrero8666]

I definitely would not want to be a poor soul stuck between those two.

[@thorshammer7883]

Mendicant Bias had been corrupted by the Flood's logic plague and aided the Gravemind's war so in potency even if it is possible to get rid of the logic plague in a unknown amount of years after not being in the presence of the Flood the logic plague has alot more potency then the Reapers has shown in it in how it can compromise even the most sophisticated and professional minds even the most hyper advance dimension computers in the Halo universe.

[@nobilisvaga5267]

The reapers vs. The flood would be interesting.

[@akudapapua]

Flood would win. Very quickly. People underestimate the Flood. Basically no universe I can think of could fight the Flood effectively and win. 117s win was "luck."

[@nihilityjoey]

​@@akudapapuathe flood cannot use any neural physical objects in another universe. The flood could use precursor artifacts, they couldn't make them. And in a universe with no precursor artifacts they can't use them. The forerunners b at the flood, could have beaten them a lot easier. The reason they are still about is because the forerunners made the silliest of moves ever. They kept samples all over the bloody place.

[@akudapapua]

@nihilityjoey if you let the everyone in one universe use everything in their universe you must also let their opponent use everything. This woupdnbe like saying, I'm gonna put the Jedi into another universe to fight but they lose the force. It sounds idiotic when you look at the premise of your comment.

[@woodsgump]

Both the main protagonists have John in their name lol John-117 and John Shepard Both have allied aliens that are tall & intelligent The Arbiter and Garrus

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Both the 2 greatest homies in all of gaming

[@mattmc9812]

I wish unsc in halo had more energy based weapons like particle beam or plasma

[@shanbruland]

I've been complaining about the similarities since the Forerunner Trilogy dropped.

[@ArouzedLamp]

Do Metroid next!

[@matthewsolis7075]

I think as far as the Easter eggs go mass effect devs probably enjoyed playing halo CE or halo2 maybe halo3 later in the trilogy also both are sci-fi structured as heroic tragedies

[@UnrulyRantLord]

I honestly believe Halo was their inspiration

[@Christian85595]

The only reason why Shephard is not as enhanced as Master Chief is because the reapers needed a chance to win, and that would not have been the case with Commander Spartan over there.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Holy shit Shepard's already a legend. But with S II AUGS??

[@bennuredjedi]

They represent 2 humanities that are not using their full potential in regards to the technology they have at their disposal, for example the ME humanity would have found a way to synthesized Eezo where the amount would have not been an issue for the HSA thus they would have larger and more advanced vessels than the rest of the Citadel races, also they would have pushed element zero to its furthest limits in ordervto maximize its use the Thanix cannon would have already been in use by the time of the 1st Contact War also they would have scoured the Protean archive and more of that complex for everything they could find,again improving their technology level a little more over anyone else. The UNSC would already have been using gauss weapons all over the armed forces and the latest iteration would have been magnitudes more deadly than what they had, all of the Infantry Marines Rangers Airborne odst's SPECWARCOM (besides the Spartans) would have either power armor or powered exoskeletons with types based on the unit and Mission objective (imagine those used in COD: Infinite Warfare and Advance Warfare DEW weapons would be standard across all naval vessels sloop to super carrier, where the Helios laser and Reflex Laser would be the early generations of those systems

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Isn't a lot of those drawbacks due to the Asari holding Prothean knowledge as shown on Thessia?

[@bennuredjedi]

@@UnrulyRantLord That would not have been an issue one way or another if humanity would have maintained their ingenuity creativity and determination to push the envelope of their current technology plus what they discovered on Mars. The issue is not about the Asari, it's about the stagnation accepted by the HSA,they just got lazy,really I think indoctrination was in place way before the events of ME 1,because humanity wouldn't accepted one technology stream when they had others if anything they would have developed hybrid systems at the minimum.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

@@bennuredjedi I see, I apologize

[@bennuredjedi]

@@UnrulyRantLord no need to apologize, because I wondered the same thing originally, why didn't the Asari share the Prothean technology, and why didn't they use it to their advantage more than what they had,again my opinion is that all of the leadership, political and corporate, was indoctrinated to some degree,it's the only thing that could explain how every species refuses to advance beyond what they had.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

@@bennuredjedi Random off note but could you imagine how Sovereign class Reapers would fare against Halo MAC cannons

[@XanderLovesMath]

Halo is a grounded gritty military sci fi shooter while mass effect is more in vein with Star Wars and Star Trek. They couldn’t be any more different other than being sci fi

[@CoffeeCrowgasm]

Ahhhh the Asari 😌😂🤘

[@brycetinker795]

For Xbox’s 30 anniversary I want to see and moden Xbox in the stile (both looks and menu) of the original Xbox. It can be called the Xbox nostalgia.

[@thewayfarer8849]

I stand by Mass Effect being a brilliant original sci-fi setting; I just elect to ignore post ME2 and feel like Dragon Age it was an absolute disservice that such well made and written games shit the bed plot wise later in the franchise.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Idk man. ME3 has some absolutely stellar moments, you're completely fair game on Andromeda

[@wolfofnowhere]

I wint lie i passed up on mass effect rught up until mass effect 3's demo got released because i thought ME1's cover looked dumb. I nearly passed on one of my favorite franchise because i made a judgement call abot the box art it was almost a mistake i whent out and picked up ME2 right away

[@appo9357]

One is awesome, the other is Mass Effect. 😎

[@BlackTheKnight]

"And the other doesn't have a smart alic comm's officer to keep him in line."

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh dem fighting words

[@lindenduffourc2044]

Are the Mass Relays Dyson Spheres?

[@XanderLovesMath]

Halo is a grounded gritty military sci fi shooter while mass effect is more in vein with Star Wars and Star Trek. They couldn’t be any more different other than both being sci fi

[@joshuacollins9316]

Did u not watch the vid? And see the similarities ? lol

[@nihilityjoey]

😂😂grounded sci fi. Halo strayed from that a while ago. When your ships are foreign multi hundred ton slugs at relativistic speeds, with normal human technology. You are in fantasy territory.

[@mekboy7403]

@@nihilityjoey Strayed though? Halo has always had that.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

​@@nihilityjoeyHmm? The established tech seems very in line?

[@5eBz_]

Both are PEAK

[@slowjamsliver7006]

Both at definitely about facing the end, but Mass Effect definitely have brighter look at the future. Halo is cool, but the government humanity has found itself under will do anything to keep existing and everything and everyone is subservient to that idea. Mass Effect, while generally not seeing changes to the economic system at least is passible and less oppressive.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

Do elaborate?

[@slowjamsliver7006]

​@@UnrulyRantLord First, we all know the Spartans were never intended to fight the Covenant, and so even before the war the Earth government wanted a quieter way of eliminating political opposition, mainly in the colonies. However, Covenant comes along, and plans for the Spartans change. The Covenant want to end humanity, and most ethical questions are out the window because survival comes first. If you've listened to "Hunt the Truth" the UNSC hires a reporter to do a story on the Master Chief, but they give him "everything he needs to know". Unfortunately, he doesn't stop at "everything he needs to know", and to keep him quiet ONI places him in a Black Sight to hopefully change his tune. At the very least, we know that there is still some level of elected government from "Hunt the Truth", but we don't know if they have any actual power anymore. We also hear very little about the government during the Human-Covenant war. So, given that ONI had enough leeway to create child soldiers before the war, and likely only increased in power during the war as they were in charge. We can reasonably assume that the UNSC is effectively the government, and the civilian government is nominally a puppet to placate the public. Halo is possibly a military dictatorship that is still looking to solidify itself. Doing so by continuing eliminate potential political opposition in the name of security. Suppression of freedom of the press. The UNSC is also doing a lot of diplomatic actions that would normally be done by a diplomatic branch of a Civilian government. There is also come indicates that during the Human-Covenant war that economic systems were maintained. This is odd because at a certain point civilian governments do start nationalizing production. So, when there are points of "this weapon was incredibly effective, but it cost too much to produce", it is hard to believe that the civilian government hasn't nationalized things in the face of human extinction. This would generally indicate that the parties most in power have been able to maintain their independence in the face of certain extinction.

[@tquinnhunsaker4344]

Can you do one of these videos on Babylon V vs mass effect

[@literalsarcasm1830]

Mass Effect is my favorite Star Trek game.

[@rampagegamingg8434]

To answer the question. Very. Befire evn watching the video. They are very similar and draw many parallels.