How SPEED AND SPIN Affect AIM

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DrDaveBilliards

DrDaveBilliards

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@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
*Contents:* 0:00 - Intro 1:13 - Cut-Induced Throw (CIT) 1:45 ---- overcut aim 3:14 ---- gearing outside spin 3:57 - Cling/Skid/Kick 5:15 - Topspin/Bottom-Spin Effects 6:18 ---- OB swerve 7:22 ---- speed effects 8:12 - Summary *Resources:* - Throw Tutorial: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/ - Using Gearing Outside Spin to Eliminate Throw: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/outside-gearing/ - Cling/Skid/Kick Examples: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/throw/cling/ - Throw Topspin/Bottom-Spin Effects: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/throw/draw-follow/ - Object Ball Swerve: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/swerve/object-ball/ - Aim Compensation When Using Sidespin: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/compensation/ - Squirt, Swerve, and Throw Effects: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/effects/ - System for Aiming with Sidespin: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/saws/ - Chalk Brand Comparison: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/chalk/comparison/
@erwinpastores7682
@erwinpastores7682 3 жыл бұрын
dr dave i have a question!.. in 8 ball if you pot your last ball and accidentally pot the 8 ball. (example is stripe potted first) is it bad shot?
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
@@erwinpastores7682 Anytime the 8 is pocketed by accident, it is loss of game. FYI, a good summary of rules can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@erwinpastores7682
@erwinpastores7682 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards thanks so much.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
@@erwinpastores7682 You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
@TimZ007
@TimZ007 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching the striped ball roll straight or wobble that really shows you how much it's throwing it offline. CIT. All new players should watch this before putting in years trying to figure out how to aim LOL👍👍👍
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked the stripe wobbling or not. I like that a lot too. It feels good when you get the outside spin just right and the stripe rolls perfectly straight. Concerning new players, this is probably a better place to start concerning learning how to aim: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/how-to-aim/ The intricacies of throw are probably too confusing (and not useful to know) until one's fundamentals are solid.
@grobbs666
@grobbs666 3 жыл бұрын
If I can brag real quick, I just ran my first full rack of 9 ball! Such a great feeling! And I feel I owe most of it to Dr Dave's videos. Practicing drills he's shown to learn how and where the ball with go with spin, advice such as positive thinking, giving each shot 100% focus, getting back up if you aren't feeling the shot and start your routine again, cut induced throw/squirt/swerve, and many more. Thanks man!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Congrats! I'm glad to hear my stuff has helped. Continued good luck with your game.
@antoniotrew5894
@antoniotrew5894 2 жыл бұрын
I've been playing and running racks for years and it still feels good whenever I run one...What deflates my pride though is running a whole rack (especially 8 ball) and then blowing it on the money ball lol ...
@mariorodrigues9444
@mariorodrigues9444 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video on a topic that is one of the most important in my opinion, but that hardly gets mentioned with the frequency that it deserves. Most pool channels just talk about the game as if this doesn't exist and a lot of them talk about aiming systems or ghost ball aiming like it is full proof. But after having realized that you actually have to change aim slightly depending on the shot, I have drastically improved my game. Any player who is frustrated that they are missing shots without knowing why should learn about this.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Well stated. Here's a good starting place for people wanting to learn the basics about this stuff: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/
@poolhustlersinc
@poolhustlersinc 3 жыл бұрын
These last 2 vids about spin are very graphic. I appreciate your analysis Dr. Dave.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked them. If you liked these, you would probably also like my videos dealing with throw: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/ and sidespin: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/sidespin/ Enjoy!
@quizi06
@quizi06 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Dave, this is why you are the man!!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@erickeilty9029
@erickeilty9029 9 ай бұрын
A really nice way to demonstrate CIT if someone can’t visualize it is to use hockey pucks. Push one hockey puck into another at an angle and you can clearly see why throw occurs and why spin is imparted on the object ball
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 9 ай бұрын
Good idea. I use poker chips for the same thing. Also, the slow motion videos here show it clearly with pool balls: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/throw/spin-transfer/
@JoeDubs432
@JoeDubs432 3 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant video that has really let me understand the physics of pool. 6:46 One thing I still do not understand is OBS and the ostensible curve that is introduced with top spin. Perhaps you could elaborate on that in a future video Dr. Dave. Thanks so much Sir
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The reason for the OB swerve is difficult to explain, but it is caused by the topspin causing the CB to push down on the OB at contact. The curving action is the same as with a CB masse shot: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/masse/ The videos and info there might help you visualize it. The detailed math and physics behind OB swerve is here: billiards.colostate.edu/technical_proofs/new/TP_A-24.pdf
@shubinternet
@shubinternet 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, man. I’ve heard of cut induced throw over the years I’ve been trying to get better, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen it explained nearly this well before. Now I feel like I’ve been playing as a member of the Three Stooges all these years, because I wasn’t compensating for CIT. 😱🤯🤬🤬🤬
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
FYI, many more videos and much more info on this topic, along with a useful summary of the important things to know, can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/ Enjoy!
@cosmicraysshotsintothelight
@cosmicraysshotsintothelight 3 жыл бұрын
I spent five years trying to learn how to barefoot water ski back in the '70s. The day my father brought a co-worker down and pulled him with the boat and he did it I saw what I was doing wrong and learned that very day. Whoop whooop whooop!
@antoniotrew5894
@antoniotrew5894 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how at times you can over look this and miss just because of how simple the shot seems...
@grobbs666
@grobbs666 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, and perfect timing! Its something I've been thinking a lot about a lot more since I've been playing more. One video I'd love to see is how to adjust your play depending on table. That might be hard to make though, as you might need different tables with different cloth. I really have to power through shots on my table at home to get proper position. Then when I went to a pool hall playing on a brand new diamond, it was like on ice! And the rails had seemingly no loss of speed as balls bounced off them. We played for 2 hours and I still couldn't get fully adjust my game and get the hang of it.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
The subtleties of throw are definitely something you notice as your aiming and shot-making skills improve. Concerning adjusting to a table, I have some info and videos dealing with this topic here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/table/checking-out/ and here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bank-kick/testing/ Enjoy!
@chriscooper1686
@chriscooper1686 3 жыл бұрын
Great video... Thoroughly enjoyed it. This topic can confuse a lot of players. I like the way you broke it down.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. For people who want to learn more, the videos and info here cover everything in detail: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/
@antoniotrew5894
@antoniotrew5894 2 жыл бұрын
I have an Olhausen table with simonis and the accufast cushions here at the house and rattling the ball in corners is always a concern when having to use English at high speeds...
@Iksmohj1
@Iksmohj1 3 жыл бұрын
Another lesson learned from Dr.Dave.thank you Sir.😊
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
@robertrodriguez9050
@robertrodriguez9050 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent info Dave. Well presented too. Thank you.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and you’re welcome.
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN 3 жыл бұрын
I new I could cut better with some out side English, but throw would often make me miss when I had to use other English for shape. All these things need to be worked out like you are doing.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Throw can make you miss outside spin cut shots too, if the amount of spin isn’t just right. For more info and demonstrations, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/outside-gearing/
@afillm
@afillm 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, very clear and easy to understand.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad you think so.
@neelsi46esterhuizen23
@neelsi46esterhuizen23 3 жыл бұрын
Nice knowledge... now to practice
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad you know that knowledge is more useful with practice.
@thegodofpez
@thegodofpez 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. Thanks for your hard work.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and you're welcome. I aim to swerve. 🤓
@kyleschuettenberg9470
@kyleschuettenberg9470 3 жыл бұрын
As usual a great video with very useful information. I've learned alot from watching these videos and been moving up the ranks in 8-ball (APA) thanks to videos like these. Would love to see a challenge where you rack 15 balls randomly and shoot them in order. I do this sometimes to practice my positioning in a fun way.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad to hear it. I also like 15-ball rotation practice. Here's a collection of racks I filmed a while back: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZyrmoV4q9qnn9k
@SuperElephant
@SuperElephant 3 жыл бұрын
That's pure precious information right there!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you think so. Thanks!
@alucardx1234
@alucardx1234 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always Dr Dave.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thank you for watching.
@AndrewT
@AndrewT 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Dave thanks for another great video with practical information that we can all use on the table. I often would put low outside on those shots and now I know why I always overcut. I didn't realize that low had any effect so I thought it was the same as gearing English. By the way, what chalk do you recommend for less cling? Thanks again.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found the video useful. Some chalks definitely cause worse and more frequent cling. Tao Pyro seems to stick to the CB the least. See the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/chalk/comparison/
@AndrewT
@AndrewT 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards is it true that the larger the cut angle, the more gearing English you need to put to compensate for the cut induced throw?
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
That is correct. See the 40% Rule and other videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/outside-gearing/
@GugaALBERTON
@GugaALBERTON 3 жыл бұрын
Hello from Brazil, I learn a lot with your videosss :D
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Howdy. I'm glad to hear it.
@cesarmorales4510
@cesarmorales4510 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Where did you get that practice ball with the black line?? Looks usefully for training
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
It is part of the "Elephant Practice Ball" set. You should be able to find it online.
@raferb
@raferb 2 жыл бұрын
Another well done video. I have improved my game a lot by your tips on how to compensate for CIT. My go to method is putting left or right side spin, and soft hits, since I'm usually playing on very fast cloth tables, and I like the benefit of 'bigger pockets' that slower speed hits give me. (not to mention less travel of the cue ball after contact, to reduce the risk of scratching). Thanks for producing the best explained 'mechanics of pool' videos on the internet! What happens if you need to put opposite, to CIT compensation, spin on the cue ball (inorder to avoid a scratch or make shape on the next ball)? Does that increase CIT even more?
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked the video. Concerning throw, see the answers related to CIT and SIT here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/throw/answers/
@KeyWestGlenn
@KeyWestGlenn 3 жыл бұрын
This helped my slow roll shot tremendously
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to hear it.
@mypoolvideos6402
@mypoolvideos6402 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy i know this all knowledge and i use it in game.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Knowledge can be powerful when used effectively.
@jerryhughes4256
@jerryhughes4256 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr Dave!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! I aim to swerve. 🤓
@derrickallen2054
@derrickallen2054 Ай бұрын
Dr. Dave, do you have any videos that go over aiming with side-spin in a bit more detail, especially using top and bottom side-spin? Great video btw
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards Ай бұрын
Yes. See the videos and info at the bottom of the page here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/sidespin/ And many more can be found via the links here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/
@thangthang4808
@thangthang4808 3 жыл бұрын
Hi @Dave, can you explain how inside spin effect the throw, swerve. Thanks
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/inside/
@thangthang4808
@thangthang4808 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards It can be a nice idea for your videos. I feel easier to aim with outside spin but mostly fail with inside spin. I can see Efren use inside very well even very long soft shot.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
@@thangthang4808 FYI, I already have videos dealing with how to aim when using sidespin (including inside) here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/compensation/
@thangthang4808
@thangthang4808 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank Dave
@Marc-uw4lw
@Marc-uw4lw 2 жыл бұрын
Exceptional video, thanks!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and you're welcome!
@coffeeenglish4051
@coffeeenglish4051 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome work DrDave, thank you 😊👌🎱
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and you're welcome. I aim to swerve ... even the OB. :)
@vyacheslavboyko6114
@vyacheslavboyko6114 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Dave, thank you for the video. If one would oil the OB, this should remove the CIT? Oil on the table is not nice so I am thinking to wax. I just want to know if I hit the geometrically corect point in practice. How to separate trow from aiming, learn aim without trow and then add the compensation based on the shot?
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын
Waxing the balls can dramatically decrease throw. The only problem is: the amount of throw changes as the wax wears off with play. Fore more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/ball/cleaning/
@vyacheslavboyko6114
@vyacheslavboyko6114 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards omg. Thank you for the experiments. Silicon spray it is. Can you advertise some, or any kind will work? Just want to have this pure ghost ball aiming filling for some practice. P.S. Nice work on deriving the throw equations.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын
@@vyacheslavboyko6114 I don't recommend Silicone Spray. It is very messy, and it gets on everything (cloth, tip, and you), and it is tough to clean off.
@vyacheslavboyko6114
@vyacheslavboyko6114 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards So what do you recommend? I cannot spit on the balls every shot XD. Should I search for a wax? But wax doesn't reduce the throw entirely 🙄
@vyacheslavboyko6114
@vyacheslavboyko6114 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards I tried Wax und some lubricant. The wax worked best, however, it is a bad practice to wax the contact point every 2 or 3 shots. So the wax will slowly transfer to the table cloth in 100 -1000 shots. Well, now I am thinking to learn the aiming with natural throw. For that I will 3d print a ramp to accelerate the white ball and measure the trow of natural roll contacts.
@philipv.mcharris5010
@philipv.mcharris5010 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Dave! Great video. I just had a quick (physics) question: is swerve solely a product of the cue not being completely level (i.e. the downward force creates a swerve effect)? Or is the actual spin of the ball creating the serve as the ball travels forward? Also, with CF shafts, I know you mention one potential drawback is that the tip can contact twice and cause excess squirt, is there anything one can do to avoid that? Is it just a matter of learning your cue and how much spin you can put on a shot? Thank you!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын
Swerve is caused by a combination of cue elevation and sidespin. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/swerve/ With a very stiff shaft, a miscue can occur with a good hit at very large tip offset (close to the miscue limit), but it doesn't happen with typical modern CF equipment.
@philipv.mcharris5010
@philipv.mcharris5010 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards you’re the best Dr. Dave! Thank you!!
@MrXeberdee
@MrXeberdee 11 ай бұрын
Amazing... Thankyou so much Dr Dave!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 11 ай бұрын
Thanks. You’re welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
@lukeknizley3830
@lukeknizley3830 Жыл бұрын
Dave, does the amount of gearing outside spin applied to cancel out throw change depending on the cut angle or are you applying the same amount of spin or tip position no matter the cut angle? @DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
It is different for every cut angle. See the 40% Rule stuff here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/outside-gearing/
@TomRSmith88
@TomRSmith88 3 жыл бұрын
"Have you ever missed a ball like this...". No, if you mean in the past 5 minutes. Dr. Dave is our pool superhero.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Even the top pros miss shots like those, and fairly frequently.
@Kiqu89
@Kiqu89 3 жыл бұрын
What about if you throw cue elevation to the mix with this same test? Hampered, close to the cb etc
@Kiqu89
@Kiqu89 3 жыл бұрын
Almost always when i miss, i dont cut enough : )
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Cue elevation makes an accurate hit more difficult, but all the effects covered are the same, except at faster speeds where the CB will be hopping some. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/elevation/
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Hitting shots too full is sometimes an aiming problem; but as my video showed, it can sometimes be due to not compensating for throw.
@rapanchoo
@rapanchoo 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought Aramith Premium pool balls brand new; and I started seeing that chalk marks were staying in there often. But for my it didn't make sense since I thought all the chalks might be the same. Now in your video I heard that there are some chalks that leave chalk marks on pool balls more than other. Thanks for the info. Any recommendation on an inexpensive and good chalk to keep my new balls in good shape, Dr. Dave?
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Taom chalk seems to be one of the best for not sticking to the CB. For more info, see the videos and results here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/chalk/comparison/ Enjoy!
@rapanchoo
@rapanchoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards I remember I watched this video a while ago, and I’ve watched again. I like the conclusions. Btw: seeing on Amazon how much costs just one cube of Taom chalk, that’s was not what I had in mind when thinking of inexpensive chalk Lol! However, I appreciate the suggestion.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
@@rapanchoo Master chalk is fine, and very cheap.
@rapanchoo
@rapanchoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Yup, I looked for that one on Amazon and it's very affordable. Right now I'm just using the chalk the guy who gave me his pool table had. So, for now I don't need to buy new chalk. But I already know which one I'd look for when I need it. Thank you, Dr. Dave. You've been helpful and kind, as always.
@robertobrenes5283
@robertobrenes5283 3 жыл бұрын
For me it is hard to aim to over cut a ball because I instinctively tend to compensate and my brain does not want to aim to "miss" Should I go to ground zero to correct my compensation mistakes or how can I improve the compensation process?
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
I have lots of good aiming advice here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/aiming/dam/#advice Check it out.
@Sthjjnoi
@Sthjjnoi Жыл бұрын
this is insanely useful information, thanks a lot!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you think so. You're welcome.
@boteng36
@boteng36 3 жыл бұрын
Does inside spin affect the throw? Because I have always heard its harder to pot with inside spin as oppose to outside spin
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Inside spin actually helps manage throw better in most situations, per the info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/inside/ But this works only if you are good with compensating your aim for CB deflection: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/compensation/
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN 3 жыл бұрын
I think we compensate for outside q ball deflection, and changing to be inside would take new adjustment. Some times it will be better for shape so we should learn all these.
@Mickster114
@Mickster114 3 жыл бұрын
I dont see myself really mastering all these factors until i get a pool table at home. Which isnt really possible because i dont have the room unfortunately. I dont have time to be practicing this at pool halls all the time. Sucks because i want to really learn all this and put it to practice but oh well. Hopefully one day ill have room for a table
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Having your own table does make it a lot easier to practice (and not just play).
@dhirajpallin2572
@dhirajpallin2572 3 жыл бұрын
Dave I'm not sure I see any spin being imparted to the object ball. Sure the stripe is wobbling because it's no longer exactly vertical after the object ball is thrown, but if it were genuinely spinning wouldn't the stripe be rotating only in one direction, not wobbling back and forth? There are several coaches on KZbin who are adamant that induced spin is a myth and appear to prove it using slow motion cameras for certain shots such as straight shots using side. This has gotten me quite confused as there appears to be differing opinions on this from different sources.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
There are also people who insist the Earth is Flat! Undisputable and conclusive proof that spin transfer exists can be found in the videos and other resources here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/throw/spin-transfer/ Enjoy!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Concerning stripe wobble, the next time you are at a table, hit a stripe with a small amount of sidespin, and you will see the wobble.
@dhirajpallin2572
@dhirajpallin2572 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Even this test doesn't seem to my eyes to be an argument for induced spin though. The 'wobble' effect is simply the result of the stripe not being vertical. Which could be caused by a small amount of deflection or throw. I.e. My point is that the 'wobble' is not spin. How do you prove otherwise?
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
@@dhirajpallin2572 I think the videos and resources on the resource page provide undisputable visual, shot-example, and math/physics proofs: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/throw/spin-transfer/ If you know anybody who doubts spin transfer, please refer them to this page so they too can be convinced.
@dhirajpallin2572
@dhirajpallin2572 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Dave I watched the video you linked, but in the video you are still just making the point that because the stripe isn't vertical it means there was spin transfer, when as I said this can still just be accounted for by the throw alone. It doesn't prove there is spin on the object ball. Only that the throw pushes the ball off vertical (which I guess could be considered temporary spin, but only for a split second). How do I know from these videos that the cushion deflection angle is due to spin or simply due to throw changing the angle coming into the cushion?
@Achlys384
@Achlys384 9 ай бұрын
3:19 gearing outside spin has almost no deflection i have noticed since you’re not hitting the cue so far to the side. Im kinda surprised you dont know this 🤔
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 9 ай бұрын
It depends on the cut angle. For small cuts, the amount of spin and CB deflection are small; but for larger angles, the amount of spin and CB deflection are much larger (especially with a non-LD shaft). For more info, see the videos, illustrations, articles, and other resources here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/outside-gearing/
@rjp2295
@rjp2295 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video HOSS
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@hoangson0403
@hoangson0403 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doc!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@yuanheli307
@yuanheli307 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And you're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
@Brandzaman39
@Brandzaman39 Ай бұрын
ok, but how is that affected when changing the angle of cut? What degree of cut is the most affected by throw?
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards Ай бұрын
See the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/throw/maximum/
@kurtkensson2059
@kurtkensson2059 3 жыл бұрын
There will have to be at least one comment about Dr. Dave's aiming to swerve.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt.
@barrychua4338
@barrychua4338 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards you didn't account for the tolerence in the width of the golf tee! heracy .... this whole video is moot now :)
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrychua4338 Got me.
@cosmicraysshotsintothelight
@cosmicraysshotsintothelight 3 жыл бұрын
He strives for Whirled Peas.
@anthraxxru
@anthraxxru 3 жыл бұрын
Salute from Romania sir 😁
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks from USA.
@longpotbilliards
@longpotbilliards 2 жыл бұрын
Great lesson 👍
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I’m glad you liked it.
@Pablo-wy9yg
@Pablo-wy9yg 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder, do professional players think about this or do you just play by feel? Also is this more of an issue in snooker?
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Both and pool and snooker players need to adjust aim for throw. Most top players do this by feel, but it helps to know the important principles summarized at the bottom of the page here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/ Object ball swerve on the other hand is too small of an effect to be concerned with.
@allgood6760
@allgood6760 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr Dave 👍🇳🇿
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. 👍USA
@tjtimmy1110
@tjtimmy1110 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff doc. I just bought your book, when are you gonna grow back your beard?
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The beard would be very gray now. Maybe I'll grow it again when I get older and want to do a full head and face of gray for a distinguished and crazy professor look. :)
@noonedude101
@noonedude101 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Are you implying that you aren't already a crazy, distinguished professor? Ahaha
@Fenomenoe9
@Fenomenoe9 3 жыл бұрын
It's ok I am growing mine to compensate
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fenomenoe9 How about a mullet to go with it? :)
@Fenomenoe9
@Fenomenoe9 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards haha, Dr dave pushing his luck :D
@jairogonzalez7696
@jairogonzalez7696 Жыл бұрын
Mi pregunta es para el maestro cómo se colocan los efectos con el sistema de bolas fantasma
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
Google Translate: "My question is for the teacher how to place the effects with the ghost ball system" My Response: I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but you might find answers here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/how-to-aim/ or here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/aiming/dam/#advice
@Daraghbreen
@Daraghbreen 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable how much a kick affects the line of the shot
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Even normal throw can have a significant affect on the line of a shot. And many people often mislabel a normal amount of throw as a "kick" (AKA "skid" or "cling").
@EynkiYoom
@EynkiYoom 3 жыл бұрын
Love your vids.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it. When you are in a binge-watching mood, check out my library of over 430 videos here: kzbin.infovideos Enjoy!
@brett6314
@brett6314 3 жыл бұрын
My head is spinning. Basically ghost ball doesn't work is what you're saying. I am missing shots quite a bit that I'm left scratching my head.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Ghost Ball works fine as long as you adjust the ghost ball target slightly to account for throw when necessary. For help, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/ Enjoy!
@cosmicraysshotsintothelight
@cosmicraysshotsintothelight 3 жыл бұрын
It all has to do with the moment of impact as to the reason a hard shot with some draw does not flare... is because the impact is hard enough to rebound through the elastic spheres before the lack of left or right spin can transfer well as CIT. Also, the wobble on that throw shot is not merely the ball-to-ball grip during the equatorial impact, but the ball on the cloth coefficient completes the jolt that sends it wobbling as there is a momentary skid at that tangency as well though not as great an influence.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
I think the video explains the physics accurately and simply. For more information, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/swerve/object-ball/ and: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/ The elastic deformation of the balls is miniscule and unimportant compared to all the other effects.
@cosmicraysshotsintothelight
@cosmicraysshotsintothelight 3 жыл бұрын
To me the least amount of throw occurs when there is both Gearing and draw used to form a "spin vector" at the OB strike point, which can then be implemented at a slower overall speed or faster and get the same result. Watch out for the scratch, however, when using gearing English and speedier shots.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
With "gearing outside spin," there is absolutely no throw. Backspin is not required. For more info and demonstrations, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/outside-gearing/ Although, with backspin drag shots, you can use less sidespin to the get the "gearing" effect. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/drag/
@majidhama4093
@majidhama4093 3 жыл бұрын
Thank koch
@adilbhatti4577
@adilbhatti4577 3 жыл бұрын
Do pro players know this stuff when they r in their hustle-time, or do they get to know these things when they start their pro careers??... I am refering my question to American and Philippinian players, I think in Germany(I happen to live here)thers exisits a more classic way to become a pro player, u always Start as an amateur player by getting coaching and participating in tournaments where u represent your club...in any sports
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Pros have a good intuitive sense for most pool physics stuff; although, even pros fail to properly compensate their aim for throw at times. I see it all the time.
@hanspw
@hanspw 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Dave should rename himself to Professor Dave 👍👍👍
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
FYI, I was a university professor for 30 years. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/dr-dave/
@hanspw
@hanspw 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards I knew it 😊👍👍👍
@myintzaw4079
@myintzaw4079 10 ай бұрын
Good
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 10 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@atenzan2908
@atenzan2908 3 жыл бұрын
this is gospel
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you think so. Hallelujah!
@johnnyroc
@johnnyroc 2 жыл бұрын
Basically cut it thinner for slow speeds, hit it thicker if you gonna bang. That’s all you need to know if you’re under 600 fargo which you are.
@goldeneaglealexander6884
@goldeneaglealexander6884 2 жыл бұрын
❤️😃🙋✍️
@larryn1929
@larryn1929 3 жыл бұрын
90% of pool is 1/2 mental. (Borrowed from Yogi Berra.)
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 3 жыл бұрын
Did you mean: "The game is 90% mental. The other half is physical." FYI, many quotes like this that apply to pool can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/maxims/ Enjoy!
@bobbydoll3578
@bobbydoll3578 3 жыл бұрын
THIS IS AN EASY SHOUT I DO IT ALL THE TIME E AHHAHAAHAHAHA
@dirklogan4699
@dirklogan4699 Жыл бұрын
Please someone explain overcut throw aim in relation to his initial ghost ball marker setup. I’ve seen other videos say to do this but they never really tell you how. This is definitely a source of my misses right now I’d definitely love to start workshopping immensely.
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
My "Top 10 Things You Need to Know about THROW - Part 1" video covers it fairly well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3SaYmdprK6WY68 And for more info and help, see: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/
@dirklogan4699
@dirklogan4699 Жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards I’m an insanely massive fan of yours. It’s an honor that you personally answered this. I’ll check out the video. Thank you 🙏
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I aim to swerve (and to throw). :)
@dirklogan4699
@dirklogan4699 Жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards I was imitating a diagram you have where the OB is Center table facing to a side pocket and a CB is about 15 degrees out exaggerating speed from slow to fast to get the feel then adding suggested spin. Do you have drills I could purchase or you recommend to work on thin/thick anti swerving shots? I’m also learning I hate big pockets!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
@@dirklogan4699 For help with aiming all types of shots with sidespin, I recommend SAWS: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/saws/
@h3artbreak3r1994
@h3artbreak3r1994 2 ай бұрын
dr Daveeee!!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 2 ай бұрын
That's my name. Does that mean you liked the video?
@h3artbreak3r1994
@h3artbreak3r1994 2 ай бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards yeah hahaha, definitely I love your videos and you too!!! I'm your online student when I've been starting playing pool 5 years ago.. thank you so much and wish you all the best Dr Daveee!!!!
@DrDaveBilliards
@DrDaveBilliards 2 ай бұрын
@@h3artbreak3r1994 I'm glad to hear it. You're welcome. Continued good luck with your game!
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