How Stormblood Broke Progression In Final Fantasy 14

[@AbriDragon]

If I recall correctly, the reason they buffed the endwalker dungeons so much is because it was wildly more efficient to level classes using Bozja zones than it was to actually play the new dungeons. Especially for DPS classes who would need longer queue times to even enter the dungeons in the first place.

[@ZenkoSolo]

If that’s true, then it’s kinda crazy how things ended up working out

[@idminister]

@@ZenkoSolo indeed, but also the best exp for their time and super fast ques for arr/hw and SB were potd (51-60) , and hoh (21-30) so their values should be compared as well, unfortunately hoh is nearly dead now; and since there was no deep dungeon in ShB, bozja was given exp bonus and setup to be both leveling and max lvl unlike eureka which was just max lvl grind for SB, other than doubling shisui for both exp and gear, or bardham for the fun an easy 2nd boss; I found HoH much more amenable. plus the deep dungeons allowed you to practice as the lvl capped (60 or 70) version of the job with full rotation in a low stakes setting (using area specific items, and the lack of tank and/or healer requirement meant enemies were designed to be doable without)

[@ZenkoSolo]

@@idminister now the question is, how much exp are you willing to sacrifice for the sake of entertainment vs gains? While using the road to 90 buff, The 100% exp bonus for 10 floor clears in HoH just isn’t worth loosing up to 566% bonus exp you can get from every boss in dungeons.

[@ZenkoSolo]

Hi there stranger, welcome to my first video. Because I know someone will be snooping to find my oldest content a few years from now let's make something clear. I created this channel because I found FFXIV content on KZbin to be extremely lacking in variety, personality, and creativity. Having nothing to watch about the thing I enjoyed was agony, and I can only watch the "1000 hours on free trial video" so many times before my brain starts smoking. That being. . . I decided to appeal to my inner narcissist, become the change I wanted to see in the world by creating content I'd enjoy. SO! Until I run out of ideas, or grow bored, this channel will be dedicated to making more FFXIV content like this. You know. the kind you can actually watch. The kind where the white boy behind the microphone actually has "opinions."

[@DJVoxel]

And I'd say you've succeeded. I'll be sharing this with some of my friends to give you a boost!

[@silque_brigandess]

@@DJVoxel Welcome to the party friendo, this femroe is pleased

[@HikariVictor]

Me who joined in Endwalker and leveled EVERY job with roullies and PVPing (mostly in Crystaline Conflict): "Uh? I don't understand what this video it's talking about..."

[@SemekiIzuio]

Omg same! Except for roulettes I actually said f that and leveled with everything else especially PvP when CC was freshly introduced and there were so many new rewards with also a flow of currency to buy everything that hadn't been obtained before. Im not sure how else got me through leveling those levels, I did do alot of PotD too but idk. I do know roulettes were so boring to me and a chore so I went off to do tribes and HW Fates for Relic stuff. I got easier at 70 with Bozja and Fate sharing completion. I remember now! It was because of fhe Garo Event that was also introduced with the new PvP at the time, so many matches were run on CC and Frontline just to get all yhe gear and mounts

[@ericmoll1530]

It always felt like 60-80 was so much slower than 81+, I guess I'm not crazy after all.

[@psoffxifan4904]

I'm not sure if it's because I'm old and remember early mmo leveling taking 3-4+ hours per level, but I never had issue with any leveling speed in 14. At the very least I never noticed it, even the slowest leveling range in 14 is still a reasonable and comparatively quick pace. This is absolutely my personal experience on it though and I get why newer mmo players would hate having their leveling slowed down partway through.

[@deludeddonut]

crazy that youtube recommended me this. I didn't think a brand new channel with 10 subs would be on my home page. Great video btw

[@ZenkoSolo]

Seems the algorithm made a swap to promoting smaller channels within the last year. I certainly won’t complain~ Thank you btw

[@fluffykitten077]

I remember when PoTD and HoH was THE place to level. No 30 minute queues for DDs, 15-20 minute runs with a full group. It was great! It seems that people have forgotten they exist. Or there are a lot less people in the 1-70 range.

[@ZenkoSolo]

Everyone who wanted to milk that cow already did, thus leaving the few stragglers who are arriving late to the party. The same thing happened with dawntrail and Agalia. Quing for that content on any data center other than siren will slap you with 20-45 min Ques. Completely evaporating the experience per minute calculations everyone shows off. A shame really, but nothing can really be done about it

[@fluffykitten077]

@ZenkoSolo pretty much how it feels. The party's over

[@analias4773]

People NEED to form parties for leveling spam in PF. Please, just check PF, if nobody is hosting then make your own if you are a sprout, returner, or a mentor. The exp bonus will make it much more bearable and people will have incentive to team up with each other to level. Kidnap FC mates if possible. Encourage them to attempt Floor 100 runs as a team. I am a selfish level grinder but solo HoH becomes so dreadful after a while.

[@MegaMania0]

3:40, just a small correction, but you do have level synced society quests for the Stormblood level range. The only society quests without any sort of level sync are in the 40-50 level range

[@IndyRevolutions]

If you haven't shared your findings with the FFXIV Support Desk yet, I'd recommend doing so! Might take them until the expansion after the next one to fix it, but better they be aware of it sooner rather than later. At least in this case it's just a numbers problem and nothing too hopefully serious. I don't remember the Stormblood curve a ton, but I leveled all my jobs through during Shadowbringers because of a certain pandemic. More than a few things have changed since then, notably, the stat squish. Probably super hard to find now, but I wonder what the EXP rates looked like before and after the stat squish and the changes to how EXP was granted per dungeon instance.

[@ZenkoSolo]

Nahhh~ I don’t think they’d respond to begin with, but more importantly, end walker fixed the issue. Since the exp scaling is always the same if you keep running the newest content, just with tweaked numbers, EndWalker’s exp bonus isn’t a boon as much as it is an equalizer. To put it simply the curve should be 15, 30, 60, 120 But we got a exp curve that looked like 15, 25, 50, 150 The EndWalker bonus fixes the problem. Unfortunately that means you don’t get to do the EndWalker dungeons as much, but what can you do?

[@JeebleyJim]

I feel like longer levels feel better when there's more optional content at level- and stormblood had more of that than most expacs, especially since it was the first one following an expansion with exp hunts and scaling beast tribe quests, which you could do in conjunction with the similar stb content to pad that leveling exp. I think it could benefit a lot from fates being better scaled as an exp source outside of (current expansion), since it seems like they stop being viable without road bonus every time they rework exp slightly On another note, we haven't had an optional levelling dungeon since stormblood and it's ironically one of the most run ones in the game because of the glamour pieces, I wish we could get more of them, maybe even reverse scaled max level dungeons that function as ones

[@bargainbincatgirl6698]

Man, what a great news to receive now that I'm going to start leveling almost all my jobs in Stormblood! I was entertaining myself doing all the sidequests, allied society quests, to not leave any XP behind. But, what else I can do?, running FATE's and waiting for the weird XP boost thing to appear and kill it? Well, at least I'm psychologically prepared. I'm going to start doing RP to keep my sanity, gifting gift tea and cookies to random people like a grandma Miqo'te.

[@ZenkoSolo]

My advice to you for the storm blood range is to engage with it as little as possible. Focus on 70 dungeons and just use any dalies you can scrap together to get past the 60s. Hunting boards, dailies, gifting cookies to role players in city squares. You know how it is.

[@aerialdive]

get some buddies and smash your face against the dungeons. despite how slow it is, the stormblood dungeons are actually more enjoyable compared to arr and heavensward.

[@SemekiIzuio]

Definitely keep up with Society quests, those rewards are fun and worth it imo (mounts emotes) aside from the exp and tomes. Its what got me through leveling along with side content like the Ivalice alliances and Monster Hunter quest line, stuff like that unlocking. HoH is p fun too. I unfortunately ran it like 5 times, got the Dodo mount and never ran it again lmao but I did do PotD alooot and aloooot of PvP CC and Frontlines for the Garo Event and Series Rewards

[@Rasterizing]

40-50 tanks should not be melding crit/dh. They should be melding tenacity/det. Honestly, try it - full meld tenacity/det and it's like having rampart up all the time and you take significantly less damage, plus it doesn't gimp your dps too badly and allows your healer breathing room or dps time. Although be aware that materia doesn't work when synced down. I have a dps tank set and a tenacity tank set (which I made for lols initially) but it's kinda cool.

[@liasprings6502]

9:29 data visualization tip for graphs like these is to not plot the raw data but the relative differences, like from HW to StB or from StB to ShB. I still see the StB dip there as basically not noteworthy even though i have felt the massive difference in my far too many runs of the 65 and 69 dungeons and the fact this entire video is about that. Alternatively, plot what the EXP curve would look like if StB dungeons behaved like all the other ones and overlay the two.

[@liasprings6502]

To be clearer on this point, the absolute amount of EXP does not really matter, the important part is how much it is compared to either how much exp you need at that level or how much less exp it is compared to a dungeon 10 levels lower. In absolute numbers monke brain see bigger number but if the graph uses ratios, the dip should be a lot more obvious.

[@BeauxPhades]

The only reason endwalker fixed this was because it was faster to level in bozja 71 to 90 for the first few weeks of the expansion. Dungeon exp was buffed to get people out of bozja at 80 and it looks like that buff was just a mathematical correction and not something nice they did for us.

[@Vidve]

Aurum Vale is fiiiiine. You do that like, 4 or 5 times and you hit 51 from 47 if you've any kind of exp bonus applied.

[@tomw.1507]

And amazingly after 10 years of playing FFXIV I am now motivated to level all my classes (I only have three classes at 100 and most of the rest are less than 30). Thank you so much for this.

[@jamesw8698]

wasnt there a big level sink during the time the 80 dungeons came out? which would explain the drastic incline, its % to level base per dungeon, so sure, the numbers may be bigger per dungeon, but so to is the amount of xp required just to level. also gotta factor in dps queue times as a reason people may hate it as waiting for those dungeons to pop takes forever if solo queuing, and last i recall, dailies give a dramatic boost to xp per day, so if someone doesnt want to wait to queue for dungeons, they can go for roulettes like MSQ, MSQ gives half an xp bar at every level once per day, add to that all the other roulettes people can do, an you could likely go from 60-63 or 64 in one day without even playing a 61-70 dungeon

[@ZenkoSolo]

There might have been a level sync, I wasn’t playing at that time, but that definitely isn’t why the rates are so abnormally high. At least not which the knowledge currently available to me. As I said, the level curve has also been consistent since HS. Unless they didn’t follow the curve, and later reverted it, it wouldn’t explain the 50% extra exp from dungeons within the range. As much as I would like to say for sure, information in the FFXIV community tends to be poorly documented which makes finding leads on removed content is rather difficult.

[@skyescribble]

Sirensong Sea can go delete itself dayo. 💙

[@ZenkoSolo]

There was a time where I enjoyed that dungeon. . . That was over 60 runs ago

[@felic7752]

@@ZenkoSolo omg recently lving my bard i did like 6 times that duty or more ahhh even with the exp earring... yeah it was painful

[@RichterfanReborn89]

I'd do it again and again if I never again had to gaze upon Tower of Zot.

[@djukor]

Back when the free trial was only up to Havensward i had the preferred server XP boost alongside road to lvl 70 bonus. I ended up buying the game full price not even on sale specifically because i didn't want my preferred server XP boost to run out so that i could level every single job in the game to lvl 70 in a month. I assumed that the extra money i had to pay was worth the time i inevitable saved from the XP boost do i never had to experience the slow leveling of this particular level range.

[@loomingdeath1758]

Considering all my classes are lvl 90+ I never notice that lol I just leveled minessly

[@liasprings6502]

I have had enough Castrum Abania runs for a lifetime, not even counting the many wipes to the towers on the second boss. I still have waymarks saved for that guy from when i was leveling every job through StB levels.

[@ZenkoSolo]

You have my condolences soldier

[@JamiMartinez]

KZbin recommended your video to me, and I'm so glad it did. I can't wait to see more

[@ZenkoSolo]

Give it time and there will be plenty more. And emphasize the time part. This video alone took about 5 days and 15-25 hours to make.

[@phoenixgames3351]

You have two beast tribes that synch to your level in stormblood. You can also run heaven on high in about 15 mins which is about 1 level per hour.

[@CryogenicEchelon]

I remember grinding all my classes to 90 for Endwalker and Stormblood dungeons were the wall I had to climb. Bardam's Mettle absolutely crippled my enthusiasm for the grind, which sucks cos Doma Castle afterwards would reignite it. I remember not caring for Castrum Abania either but I know they've reworked it since.

[@robertanna2693]

Fantastic news! I am pretty fresh to the game and am getting my alt up to 60 right now as I am going into storm blood. No joke, this is helpful to know as I ready myself to go in. I won't feel like I am doing things wrong now.

[@Nifictis]

Don't know how this found me, glad it did.

[@crazymage5316]

I was screaming about this to abunch of discord friends of mine while trying to level all my jobs up to 70. Earlier this year, its such a slog

[@ZenkoSolo]

I tried screaming about this to I was asked to leave the store

[@ember-evergarden]

Not of you played SB on launch. Fastest leveling to max ever because of PvP

[@manlycactus]

For those who DO like leveling with trusts, there is duty support for every other expansion now, at least

[@Raymond670]

I found this through the algorithm, stayed for the details and I loved it all

[@cryingangel8754]

I noticed something similar but not only in stormblood. I noticed that when u just level during roulettes the level range 0-5 [so like 70-75 for example] taking quite a long time. when u then do 5 agaon 0 its super fast and u make a lot of exp and almost 2 level a day. I dont know why that is but its super odd. I even saw that people, in the 0-5 cap, not even making 1 level [with buff food, fc buff] just from dailies. Thats very strange and its also a fact, that ur dungeon that u get in roulette decides how much exp u get in the end. Thats why with a high level jobb getting Sastasha ist just pure **. U barely get any exp from that leveling roulette. sry for my terrible english

[@Someone_3lse]

This information is wrong. The roulette DAILY BONUS gives experience based on job level. The dungeon you get doesn’t matter. However the bosses in dungeons also give experience on top of that. And yes the experience from sastasha bosses is terrible but that’s not why you’re running the dungeon anyways. You’re there for the roulette experience. After you do your 1 daily roulette you should stop doing the roulette for that day and just run specific dungeons. Also if you’re above 50 you should be getting 2-3 levels from roulettes alone. If below level 50 then you get more levels. Leveling, trials and frontlines give a tone of exp for the time spent. Alliance raids are a hit or miss but mostly good because it’s often times CT which is fast. But even if it isn’t CT when you get higher level AR they give more exp anyways. Main scenario roulette is my least favorite. It gives good exp but it’s not a good time. If you get ultima then great. That’s the best and fastest one by far. But prae on the other hand takes forever (make those cs skippable if everybody has already cleared it. Or put up a gate that can’t be passed without everyone out of the cs). Point is you should only do 1 of each roulette daily. Then focus on other leveling methods. As a side note for leveling roulette, there’s a setting that makes it so that if you are in a party of 4 you can only get dungeons that are within 7 levels of the lowest level party member. That way there’s no queue time and you get good dungeon exp as well as the roulette exp

[@thegneech]

"Stormblood F'd it all up but Endwalker fixed it" is a pretty good summary of FFXIV generally, TBH

[@CassiusKent]

I thought I was losing my MIND. I have always thought and dreaded 60-71 because of that insane slog. Healers and Tanks were fine, but DPS? Lord HELP ME. Conversely, getting multiple classes to 100 as been a breeze, and doesn't feel as time consuming, and actually quite pleasant once you have a rhythm.

[@icyphilippe]

By doing beast tribes alone, getting from 69 to 70 takes a week and 70 to 71 takes 10 minutes 😂

[@Narlaw1199]

As someone who likes to do MSQ as poster job, I can say that keeping MNK and SAM up to date, both lvled up, was a paaaain. THEN I learned that some extra dialogues and references happen if you got ninja high enough, and apparently lvl 60 is too low 🤦‍♂️ fuck that lvl range

[@Xxiev]

As someone who has all the Jobs on max since SB i like to point a few things out. In SB most people did not leveled via Dungeons, at least since 4.3 when HoH came out wich 1-30 floors granted a hell of EXP, wich was the prefered level way in Stormblood and also for GNB and DNC after. I missed that part in this Video. Also at 2:51, while you are right regarding Squadrons, you are ignoring that since mid EW, SB also supports trusts, wich is entirely missing from this Video, Also maybe i am just unlucky but i have not reached max level EW and with the new jobs in DT in EW Dungeons in 9 runs, with all multipliyers, since i needed 3 runs per Job it was more 15. Plus and minus roulettes of course.

[@Veechii]

Can also testify that during Stormblood a LOT of my fc were doing random pick-up Deep Dungeon runs for experience.

[@HeartabyssKoi]

Yall don’t run Heaven On High 61-70? That’s all we used to do back in the day.

[@ZenkoSolo]

Not anymore. The exp is still good, but there just aren’t enough players running that content to offset the Ques. Granted, that might be a different story in aether, but I haven’t been able to wake up at 3am in order to server hop and check

[@Thundawich]

Didn't they change how experience worked in dungeons a couple years ago?

[@mirandaburns9194]

I'd been sat scratching my head, not 5 days ago. "Did they nerf dailies?". As i tried to rush my redmage, only for me to go on another job in a different level range and see waay higher progression of levels. Guess its handy to see it quantified like this and know i've not lost my mind.

[@CancerCreature53]

We are so back

[@StarBlood27]

This is why I started on dynamis. The research gave me the answer

[@ShikiRyougi05]

Ok but like...why doesn't square just fix that level range then 😭???

[@アリス-b1c3b]

In my experience leveling it all to 100, The most annoying range for me was 50 to 60 simply because it was more boring, most classes get their core abilities in the 60's range so I had something to look forwards to 60 to 70 was also the last dungeons I ran since for 71 to 90 I went with bozja as my main leveling method. I will conceede the exp gains are kinda awful for that specific level range but I didn't mind it as much as I found the dungeons entertaining and the pulls fun.

[@BrandyDerg]

meanwile i have most my alt jobs at lv 50 and im not looking forward to the slog im gonna have to go trough with all of them till i get to 71 and get evrything to 90 done in bozja

[@ZenkoSolo]

The fastest method in your case is as followed 50-60: Squadrons 60-71: Dailes (MSQ, Frontlines, Leveling and Alliance raid at least), hunting Board between Ques 71-81: Dungeons, Trusts are technically slower but faster when accounting for Que times 81-91: to my understanding Level dungeons completely dwarf Bozja, but I am not qualified to make that call. I say test the waters of both for a few days and see what happens 91-100: unless your using a healer, Trusts. I am dead ass, they are 3-5 minutes slower than most public instances if you 1. Don’t die 2. Output proper DPS 3. Don’t die to Wuk Lament in the 93 dungeon’s while facing the second boss

[@BrandyDerg]

@@ZenkoSolo thanks

[@ObsidianRex-23]

3 years late, but I'll answer those Reddit posts anyway. For preface: I'm level 67 on SAM and DRG, currently I'm the tail end of Heavensward and just unlocked Idyllshire. Levels 60 to 70 suck ass. Leveling roulettes don't guarantee a level even with the Brand-new and Neophyte Rings and a meal boost, the MSQ barely gives EXP, and there's no point buying Poetic gear because job quest gear is better than it.

[@VizerPS]

i know this guy from those games on those devices that shouldn't be named...

[@No0neat]

I am here before you become a giant channel just so i can one day say "tsk tsk. How the mighty have fallen" for no reason at all :B

[@ZenkoSolo]

Yeah, come back in a year and hit me with a “You fell off bro”

[@blakeremy5680]

If they did a lvl and stats squish it would fix alot of issues

[@ItsDKoda]

I'm not sure how they can do it though WoW did their squish by effectively letting people choose their expansion when they level. Imagine someone getting the choice to either play Heavensward or Stormblood, and not knowing who zenos is. Or picking between Shadowbringers and Endwalker and not knowing about Venat

[@SamoyedSagas]

They already did that in endwalker

[@pharaohthutmosis7803]

New Wolf bunny just dropped.

[@helixdownfall9882]

Sick vid, take this sub.

[@akiro9635]

unsynced your losing a percentage rather than synced

[@akiro9635]

no one ques for those duties no more 60-70 why its slow lucky they put duty support why its still slow plus pre order earring should compensate

[@pathtopeace7761]

Idk if its just me but Ive always felt like leveling up from like 70 - 75 was awful

[@ZenkoSolo]

Retrospectively, yeah. I have vivid memories of getting annoyed at the frequency of running the 73 and 75 dungeon. Then again, that might just be because I enjoy the 77 dungeon so much. Mikhials well I believe is what It’s called

[@thomasderosso5625]

I got around that by grinding FATEs. The gems were my cope.

[@KenanVonKaiser]

L Take!

[@zydeox1221]

The Squadron... Quite literally AI bots that are worse than some of the worst players in the game... Cure1 spammers, single target andies, no damage healers, mono pack andies... All of those issues in 1 set of 3 npcs...

[@biggrayalien4791]

I always found 51-60 the worst. I feel like Stormblood almost always gives me levels like Halloween candy. I'm currently leveling SCH and SMN @ 59, and I feel like after doing two separate job quests for these two, I won't have enough exp to hit 60. Like that wouldn't be a problem in Stormblood. One job quest gives you basically a full level, dailies gives you the rest. You're at 70 in just a couple days. Idk maybe anecdotal but I think the fact that Shadowbringers just ends up giving you so much more, I guess by comparison, anything feels slow.

[@TheIvoryDingo]

Honestly I feel similar. And I think it's in part because the jobs and leveling dungeons in Stormblood just feel more fun to play compared to Heavensward ones.

[@TheKarishi]

I maintain that by far the worst grind is everything up to 25. Arguably 16, actually. Personally I'm a fan of the lvl roulette system and like bouncing around different level ranges, so once I have access to leveling roulette on a job I'm fine. I just run that once a day and I don't really notice how long it takes. But prior to that? You're doing LEVES, you're going around looking for hunt marks, you're not able to do society quests yet...You really are just killing random critters in the overworld like it's 2002 and you're playing XI, or Mabinogi, or WoW, or CoH, or...

[@ZenkoSolo]

And you could argue that based on personal bias. However, based on statistical time taken, the level 1-30 range is the quickest by a mile. 10 classes start below 30 with those being the 9 legacy classes and Rogue. Accounting for dragoon, and Ninja’s abnormally longer quest design compare to the other jobs, and the Ques you’d have to sit through, it only takes 22 hours to get every class in the game past level 30 when utilizing the exp buffs available at that level range. Also worth noting, three mobs from the hunting log will always overlap with the level 1 job class quest requirement of, you guess it, killing critters. You do the hunting log, Que for a dungeon past 15, and keep doing the hunting log while you wait. It is, debatably, the most engaging level range based purely on the mechanics you have to juggle. With those being, learning the basics, tracking down mobs, constant influx of job quests, low level gear management, and keeping the Ques ticking But, to your credit. I do understand why teleporting about could be frustrating. Lower end hardware can Bloat que times, not being able to find a mob is a very real issue, and online resources tend to be sparse compared to later level ranges. Again though, personal preference

[@tanhongyi7180]

Ah yes. Stormblood 60-70 was one of the most tedious to grind for my alt jobs, that I actually sat back and spammed Ultima till I hit 80(SUCH DEVASTATION).

[@gfuviddisf]

worst range is 0-50 hands down

[@menrecht]

Level 1 - 20 is the worst, because you cannot do dungeons for the most part and you use 1-2 buttons. That's why I prioritize leveling alts that start at level 50+ where my rotation is starting to shape up and I can run dungeons.

[@ZenkoSolo]

Ehhhh~ I used to think that back when I leveled bard. But then I learned You can blitz the first 30 levels and preliminary job quests in 2 hours if you have the road to 90 bonus up But, even without it, the hunting log completely covers you for the first 15 levels and then some. Ques also tend to be shorter, and dungeons are substantially faster in this range. Some taking as little as 6 minutes to clear

[@RagnellHD]

​@@ZenkoSolo Yeah hunting log works really well for DPS leveling in ARR. The 20-50 range lets you get great exp while waiting the extra couple of minutes for DPS queues to pop. I guess it's a fair trade off for not having MSQ/AR roulette to give an extra level.

[@MrLeo6986]

I dunno how people have issues. Doing a New character by the time u reach heavensward ur already lvl 60 like 10 levels above what u should be. And this continues till ur near end game of dawn trail. U can just focus msq and level up enough.

[@idaret.]

because we have over 15 jobs that need to go through this range level?

[@bakubread9308]

why do you call The Vault "The Great Vault?"

[@ZenkoSolo]

The Vault is before a dungeon called “the great ….” So I refer to the vault as “the great Vault” as an inside joke. The joking being the massive jump in exp needed to progress though those two dungeon ranges. In other words: The great Vault is a mix of two names vault also means to jump over Highest level jump in the game. “The great vault”

[@bakubread9308]

@@ZenkoSolo ohh thats actually pretty good

[@kyeda]

Uhm, no...? Heavensward was the problem child with EXP. You could do every MSQ quest, most side quests and STILL need to run like 3 dungeons to hit the level required to prog MSQ at around level 54 - 56 depending on if you did all your roulettes and ate food. Stormblood didn't have this problem. No other expansion has had the problems with leveling like Heavensward did, on release there were crowds of people at the wall in Idyllshire asking to run dungeons to get the level needed to progress the MSQ. Idk who the fk gave you this information, or where you read it from, but it wasn't from anybody playing the game during either of those expansions, that's for fuckin' sure.

[@ZenkoSolo]

This video covers dungeon leveling and made no mention of the games MSQ. I challenge you to excessive some basic forethought before leaving a harsh comment next time. I'm sure it will save you a lot of heartache in the future.

[@JohnAtDawn]

This makes me very happy I used HoH instead of dungeons.

[@ZenkoSolo]

If you run it solo, it might be faster Idk. Never really looked into it within the last two years

[@CErra310]

Stormblood content also kinda sucks in general so it feels even longer than it already does. That expansion was all-around awful

[@ZenkoSolo]

I was going to respond with “I enjoy storm blood dungeons” but. . . Ehhhhh. . . I don’t recall the 69 dungeon, but I am very mid on all of them except the 65 and 61 with I loath for various reasons. At least the boss theme is fire.

[@kaitoenjoyer5170]

Even if I didn't know anything about FFXIV (to be fair I barely know anything) I'd still find this video interesting 👍

[@ZenkoSolo]

Thank you for the kind words Kaito. Now play the game again. I can actually carry you now that I’m not busy power leveling

[@Yuki_1927]

Didn't broke anything, this game is incredibly easy to level up and Stormblood is no different plus it has dungeons that are actually fun. Enwalker being faster is not a good thing, is because that expansion is so devoided of content that they have to crank up the numbers to make up for it.

[@ZenkoSolo]

Break*

[@woljay9362]

@@ZenkoSoloThat’s all you had to say despite the complaining video?

[@shadieeryaqati4514]

It'd be nice if they actually went back to the slow levels, tbh. Levels, at this point in the game, feel obscenely too fast, entirely unearned, and they barely feel like I've invested enough time. I wish FFXIV would go back to where even the overworld (and dungeons) actually required me to think, and actually expected me to put some semblance of effort into the game.

[@ZenkoSolo]

I hard disagree, about the leveling part that is. I recently tried maxing all classes in 100 days, the details of which is become a video someday in the future, and even when abusing every buff I could reasonably get my hands on, rolling up to dungeons with 500% exp multipliers, I still had to to put in the hours to draw my conclusions. There is a genuine desire among many to play multiple classes, but depending on which class you take interest in, you could be barred from using it on newer content for weeks or even months unless you throw some golden dabloons at the mog station. Additionally, as the level cap raises it will only further exacerbate the issue. Even accounting for the armory bonus. I don’t think it’s a bad thing that players can level easier, especially when beating based ARR and reaching level 50 only requires 14 qued instances of combat. ------ Now, in terms on class complexity, I think we can come to agree. If you know the game operates on a two minute DPS burst window, then you can more or less figure out how each class plays which can lead to some monotony with the less engaging classes

[@VGPorage]

The thing is though that there is gonna be 10 more levels to grind through every expansion so it's kinda a necessity to make the levling faster to counter balance it. Just imagine if getting to level 50 today took the same amount of time that it did in ARR when there is also 50 more levels to get through.